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[QUOTE=Degasa9976;6992561]I wasn't referring to the Cubans. The last few times I was at BTs there were a couple of girls that literally looked like they just got their drivers license, Americans.
Though I guess the older I get the younger 20 year olds start looking.[/QUOTE]That last part is real. I used to aim for dancers in their late 20's or 30's and since I took the plunge there is no going back.
[QUOTE=Degasa9976;6992561]I wasn't referring to the Cubans. The last few times I was at BTs there were a couple of girls that literally looked like they just got their drivers license, Americans.
Though I guess the older I get the younger 20 year olds start looking.[/QUOTE]I don't get it. Are you all wanting these clubs to get investigated and closed? I'm pretty sure they can't work there if they are not of legal age.
Anyone know where Asia from H8 is dancing now? Haven't seen her there in months.
[QUOTE=Rgv956;6992878]I don't get it. Are you all wanting these clubs to get investigated and closed? I'm pretty sure they can't work there if they are not of legal age.[/QUOTE]LOL sorry, yeah no bad karma meant there. To be clear, when I say "underage" I mean 18-21, I am pretty sure they can hire at that age but I get nervous when a girl looking young is walking around with a drink.
Ahhh the mixed morals we have.
[QUOTE=DooMama7;6992473]Outside of what jules wrote anything else you can add on?[/QUOTE]My buddy saw her a number of times in the club and then they moved to OTC. They had a bit of a friendship and he used see her at her place for several hours.
I never sampled her as we didn't have good chemistry, but she always seemed like a cool chick.
MM.
[QUOTE=Degasa9976;6993602]LOL sorry, yeah no bad karma meant there. To be clear, when I say "underage" I mean 18-21, I am pretty sure they can hire at that age but I get nervous when a girl looking young is walking around with a drink.
Ahhh the mixed morals we have.[/QUOTE]There are a couple of reasons a girl between 18 - 20 will lie and say she is older.
The obvious one is if she wants to drink and she says she is younger than 21 American guys give her a hard time about it. So it is much easier to just say she is 21 or 22.
Pardon my small tangent but parents are supposed to take care of their children through age 17. At age 18 she is and adult, makes her own decisions, can work in a strip club and needs to support herself. Her parents no longer have that obligation. It is ridiculous she isn't allowed to drink, it one think this country gets completely wrong. She can drive, buy a gun and pay taxes, but not a glass of wine to unwind, it almost seems cruel.
Imagine our maiden is dancing away in the club, one of you fine gentlemen tip her on stage and ask her to come and sit with you. She really needs to earn some money as her bills are piling up. But she looks gorgeous and is willing to provide certain services at a reasonable price. You have great chemistry with her and your dick is hard in your pants sitting in the main room just talking to her. She is flirty and smiley and just the way you like a girl. You have even checked and she doesn't expect you pay up front but paying at the end of the VIP is just fine. Then you say something like you look very young to me, how old are yo?. She beams proudly as she says I am 18 years old, adding a silent old enough to be an adult and be working here. Then you respond oh that is too young for me and you choose another dancer. How many times do you think she will have this experience until she starts saying she is 22 years old?
No she can't work in the club until she is 18. They will check her license or her passport as it is bad business if they hire anyone younger.
If a girl tells you she is 23 or 24 years old, That is not an age a younger girl will typically pick, and in fact many girls in their late 20's or early 30's pick that age to be appealing the largest number of boys who patronize these establishments.
MM.
First of all, thanks to everyone about all the ideas how to deal with pushy girls, I will try some next time and see how it goes.
So Saturday me and my buddy decided to go for a trip by the airport, started off at FC around 9-ish, quite a few girls and some really hot ones too, and quite a few Cubans as well. We sat at the bar downstairs. First of all even though it was not busy the girls would not come and talk to us, they just did their stage and went in the dressing room or hung out with their regulars.
Eventually this cute AA dancer came over, she says she was from California and was just trying out Detroit clubs (again horrible with names so don't remember her name), we kind of hit if off but when I started asking about VIP she said she only does dances there and all other stuff is available only OTC. I avoid OTC unless I kinda know the girl but next time I got there hopefully I talk to her and see if I decide to take the plunge, she was really cute though.
Next up another really tall dancer comes over, and same thing she says she is from California just visiting (I am not sure why all these CA girls are here). She was more interested in my buddy, they talked and eventually she left, I asked my buddy about what she said and apparently she wanted $5 for everything and would not go down more than $4, that is more than we wanted to spend so after some drinks we left and went to LS.
Got to LS about 10:30, lots of girls there too and again quite a few Cubans, as soon as we sat down a couple of Cuban girls came over, I can understand quite a bit of Spanish but I cannot answer back so they used the google translate, one of them was quite fun to hang out with and apparently the other was brand new there, and it was obvious, the one that was new was very shy and very nervous and quite fidgety, but she was cute (again, I don't remember the names, I am going to have to get better at that). After a drink we discussed pricing and they started at $3 for everything and eventually we got them down to $2. My buddy took one of them down and the brand new girl stayed with me, I wanted to go with her but he was too nervous and too apprehensive and I had a feeling it was not going to be enjoyable so eventually when my buddy got back I tipped her a few bucks told her I will see her again and eventually we left.
I have been to the back with brand new dancers before and I have not enjoyed, I prefer ones that are more broken in, they tend to have less inhibitions and are more fun.
[QUOTE=Degasa9976;6992302]How busy are the clubs on the Sunday before Labor Day? And Labor Day itself?[/QUOTE]LS closes on Labor Day. I should say, they did last year
[QUOTE=Korcar;6994275]First of all, thanks to everyone about all the ideas how to deal with pushy girls, I will try some next time and see how it goes.
So Saturday me and my buddy decided to go for a trip by the airport, started off at FC around 9-ish, quite a few girls and some really hot ones too, and quite a few Cubans as well. We sat at the bar downstairs. First of all even though it was not busy the girls would not come and talk to us, they just did their stage and went in the dressing room or hung out with their regulars.
Eventually this cute AA dancer came over, she says she was from California and was just trying out Detroit clubs (again horrible with names so don't remember her name), we kind of hit if off but when I started asking about VIP she said she only does dances there and all other stuff is available only OTC. I avoid OTC unless I kinda know the girl but next time I got there hopefully I talk to her and see if I decide to take the plunge, she was really cute though.
Next up another really tall dancer comes over, and same thing she says she is from California just visiting (I am not sure why all these CA girls are here). She was more interested in my buddy, they talked and eventually she left, I asked my buddy about what she said and apparently she wanted $5 for everything and would not go down more than $4, that is more than we wanted to spend so after some drinks we left and went to LS.
Got to LS about 10:30, lots of girls there too and again quite a few Cubans, as soon as we sat down a couple of Cuban girls came over, I can understand quite a bit of Spanish but I cannot answer back so they used the google translate, one of them was quite fun to hang out with and apparently the other was brand new there, and it was obvious, the one that was new was very shy and very nervous and quite fidgety, but she was cute (again, I don't remember the names, I am going to have to get better at that). After a drink we discussed pricing and they started at $3 for everything and eventually we got them down to $2. My buddy took one of them down and the brand new girl stayed with me, I wanted to go with her but he was too nervous and too apprehensive and I had a feeling it was not going to be enjoyable so eventually when my buddy got back I tipped her a few bucks told her I will see her again and eventually we left.
I have been to the back with brand new dancers before and I have not enjoyed, I prefer ones that are more broken in, they tend to have less inhibitions and are more fun.[/QUOTE]Korcar,
I am really enjoying reading your reports thanks for sharing them.
I have had that same experience at FC where the prices are way too high and I have stopped going because of it. I find the same girls at FC dance at other clubs and are available at prices more in line with what I want to spend.
I also personally think Saturday is one of the worst nights to go. There are many girls who made good money on Thursday and Friday and aren't particularly interested in dancing unless they find a guy willing to spend a lot of money. They already have money in their pocket. The one exception is if it is the Saturday night before rent is due.
I find many girls on Saturday night want to just drink with their girlfriends or regulars and they don't care if they only see one guy because they already have money in their purse. Also many guys on Saturday night like to go to the club and make it rain on a girl while on stage. So if she makes $200 in stage tips she doesn't need to go to the VIP and pay the extra VIP tip out.
I also avoid OTC, I have only done it a couple times and it didn't work out as well as I hoped.
I completely agree the more experienced girls have less inhibitions and can be wild in the VIP. It takes a certain patience to enjoy a newbie, and coach her and teach her, and help her loose her inhibitions. I understand it is not for everyone, but for me personally I find it a big turn on to be with a newbie. About the time I lose interested in her is when she can't learn anything more from me, but I typically leave her able to provide the kind of service most guys desire. I always search for newbies or part time girls who have another full time job they work at. I have found I enjoy my time the most with them.
MM.
Haven't been out to the clubs in awhile. Any recommendations on when / where I can find some big natural tits? Appreciate the advice and look forward to sharing my experiences as I get back into the club scene.
Hi everyone, thanks for the information when I asked about Violet in June. I am making plans for later this month and was hoping she's working again. I had a phone number for her, but she must have changed it (imagine that, LOL). If you have a current number you are willing to share, please message me. Any help would be greatly appreciated. She is my ATF! Description would be small spinner, small but perky tits, a landing strip of her own, LOL and when I saw her last, she was coloring her hair a reddish color. Thanks guys!
[QUOTE=TedEBear;6995140]Hi everyone, thanks for the information when I asked about Violet in June. I am making plans for later this month and was hoping she's working again. I had a phone number for her, but she must have changed it (imagine that, LOL). If you have a current number you are willing to share, please message me. Any help would be greatly appreciated. She is my ATF! Description would be small spinner, small but perky tits, a landing strip of her own, LOL and when I saw her last, she was coloring her hair a reddish color. Thanks guys![/QUOTE]She Isn't back to dancing yet I don't think, I was just there Friday day shift and she wasn't there. Last I heard is she Just had the little one in the Middle of July. So I really doubt she'll be back anytime before Sept / Oct maybe even later unless in really bad shape for $$.
[QUOTE=MilkMan2484;6995245]She Isn't back to dancing yet I don't think, I was just there Friday day shift and she wasn't there. Last I heard is she Just had the little one in the Middle of July. So I really doubt she'll be back anytime before Sept / Oct maybe even later unless in really bad shape for $$.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update!
[QUOTE=TedEBear;6995260]Thanks for the update![/QUOTE]Don't take that as gospel, I haven't talked to her in quite a while. So I'm just guessing to if and when she may come back to dancing again. I just figure if she just had the baby less then a month ago she is definitely going to spend a bit of home time bonding, caring for and spending time with the baby and Hubby / or baby daddy. If I do hear anything I'll pass it along to you.
[QUOTE=SopCop;6992293]Nice report. How much is FC's night admission $$$ ?[/QUOTE]I don't know bc we were with a "lifestyle" group that was having an event there.