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[QUOTE=BestGuyAb;2005142]There are some other high mileage clubs that don't have valet. Some times you can really run into some gems there. Bogart's, H8 N, even Centerfolds ($2 self park).[/QUOTE]Bogarts was full of cars when I returned from the Toy Chest and the Fight club was filling up. My try those on the next trip as they are much closer to airport area hotels.
[QUOTE=LuvtheLife;2005966] Her name was Jenni or Judi, it started with a J but the music was so loud I never caught the rest of it. Good hunting guys.[/QUOTE]Congrats! You met the legendary Booty Judy.
[QUOTE=LuvtheLife;2005966]Well after getting in today I thought I would take someone's advice and take in the toy chest toward the end of day shift. I got there and there were only 4 girls, two older ones, a cute blonde spinner and a cute black spinner. I had my eye on the black spinner but she ended up with another customer before I got to talk to her.
The blonde spinner approached and sat down in my lap encouraging me to rub her ass while she rubbed my crotch and showed me her A tits with big nips. After 30 minutes of small talk we agree on a $80 BBBJCIM and head back to the room. As soon as we get back there she starts in about her headache and the BBBJ proves to be lack luster. I should have tipped for the warm up dance and left but instead decided to try some why spot. After letting her wear her mouth out some more I offer $40 more for FS, we settle aat $60 more for $140 total. This was just the ticket as she was nice and tight, she said I should let her know when I was going to explode and she would catch it her mouth. Big mistake, I should have just blown in the cover as she managed to get it all over my pants. Was it cheap stress relief, yes. Would I repeat, probably not. Her name was Jenni or Judi, it started with a J but the music was so loud I never caught the rest of it. Good hunting guys.[/QUOTE]You're killing me Smalls. With an offer of CIM how did you managed to get it all over your pants?? For future advice to you Peeler chasers, bring your own toiletries! I keep napkins in one pocket and packets of wet naps in the other pocket. I clean myself up and I bring enough for the girl to do the same after we're done. They love that. Besides who wants to drive home with dried discharge stuck to your crotch and underwear? You did good for your first Detroit outing.
[QUOTE=LuvtheLife;2005969]Bogarts was full of cars when I returned from the Toy Chest and the Fight club was filling up. My try those on the next trip as they are much closer to airport area hotels.[/QUOTE]You will be impressed with the talent at Flight Club. Be prepared to spend a little more but for better quality. You'll also need to be on your A game with the negotiations.
Bogarts is a little seedier and I forgot to mention it during my last report. No valet but generally safe parking lot. $6 cover. Talent is a step down from Bt's and Toy Chest IMHO. Prices are about the same. You do get a few gems there. The VIP (if you can call it that) is atrocious. They have 2 curtained off room right behind the bouncer. The rest are open seating that you can see from outside in the club. Everything is heard and seen. Be careful what you sit on or touch. Oh if one can bring a UV light there and see what stains have covered the curtains and walls.
[QUOTE=Plumber2;2005646]I heard today that they should open within a week for a "soft opening". It's all hearsay, so don't hold me to it. I guess they're having some red tape issues. No biggie.[/QUOTE]I wonder what kind of talent they're going to attract over there. Being new it's going to draw from the other 8 mile clubs in the beginning. Allan is not going to be happy about that.
[QUOTE=Duckydo;2006228]You will be impressed with the talent at Flight Club. Be prepared to spend a little more but for better quality. You'll also need to be on your A game with the negotiations.
Bogarts is a little seedier and I forgot to mention it during my last report. No valet but generally safe parking lot. $6 cover. Talent is a step down from Bt's and Toy Chest IMHO. Prices are about the same. You do get a few gems there. The VIP (if you can call it that) is atrocious. They have 2 curtained off room right behind the bouncer. The rest are open seating that you can see from outside in the club. Everything is heard and seen. Be careful what you sit on or touch. Oh if one can bring a UV light there and see what stains have covered the curtains and walls.[/QUOTE]The "VIP" area (and I too hesitate to use the term VIP!) is no longer open; a year or two ago, 'management' put in individual 'stalls' with curtains. In keeping with the seedy legacy of the Hamilton clubs, they are constructed with OSB / plywood and painted black. There is nothing remotely fancy about them. They are small, but private. The stall to the far right (as you come up the steps) is larger that the others...
Bogart's seems reasonably safe, as it is kind of isolated and far from the neighborhood homes. H8 N is not-It is right next to the neighborhood. I do not go there for that reason. Toy Chest is fine if you valet park, but the neighborhood around it is not good. BT's (being in Dearborn) is safe for on-street parking. I would not advise on-street parking at Toy Chest or at any of the 8 Mile clubs.
Regards,
Costanza.
[QUOTE=LuvtheLife;2005966]Well after getting in today I thought I would take someone's advice and take in the toy chest toward the end of day shift. I got there and there were only 4 girls, two older ones, a cute blonde spinner and a cute black spinner. I had my eye on the black spinner but she ended up with another customer before I got to talk to her.
The blonde spinner approached and sat down in my lap encouraging me to rub her ass while she rubbed my crotch and showed me her A tits with big nips. After 30 minutes of small talk we agree on a $80 BBBJCIM and head back to the room. As soon as we get back there she starts in about her headache and the BBBJ proves to be lack luster. I should have tipped for the warm up dance and left but instead decided to try some why spot. After letting her wear her mouth out some more I offer $40 more for FS, we settle aat $60 more for $140 total. This was just the ticket as she was nice and tight, she said I should let her know when I was going to explode and she would catch it her mouth. Big mistake, I should have just blown in the cover as she managed to get it all over my pants. Was it cheap stress relief, yes. Would I repeat, probably not. Her name was Jenni or Judi, it started with a J but the music was so loud I never caught the rest of it. Good hunting guys.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Booty Judy.
[QUOTE=Duckydo;2006225]You're killing me Smalls. With an offer of CIM how did you managed to get it all over your pants?? For future advice to you Peeler chasers, bring your own toiletries! I keep napkins in one pocket and packets of wet naps in the other pocket. I clean myself up and I bring enough for the girl to do the same after we're done. They love that. Besides who wants to drive home with dried discharge stuck to your crotch and underwear? You did good for your first Detroit outing.[/QUOTE]LOL, what can I say, I picked with the little head instead of the big one. She said she works at the Coliseum on the days she is not at the Toy Chest so I assume it is similar as well.
I want to try that spinner black chick if I go back there. I think I will be staying around Southfield the next time in, so I will have plent of opportunity. I wish I was there tonight, in Grand Rapids and this place is the pits, all bikini bars and the backpage girls are not worth a call. Thanks for all your help.
[QUOTE=LuvtheLife;2006927]LOL, what can I say, I picked with the little head instead of the big one. She said she works at the Coliseum on the days she is not at the Toy Chest so I assume it is similar as well.
I want to try that spinner black chick if I go back there. I think I will be staying around Southfield the next time in, so I will have plent of opportunity. I wish I was there tonight, in Grand Rapids and this place is the pits, all bikini bars and the backpage girls are not worth a call. Thanks for all your help.[/QUOTE]If you're staying in Southfield, hit the 8 Mile clubs. Players has the best talent and prices in the afternoon. Penthouse, well it's Penthouse. They have the hottest girls in Detroit. Prices are actually better than Flight Club. Night time, Coliseum and Penthouse are best.
[QUOTE=Duckydo;2007089]If you're staying in Southfield, hit the 8 Mile clubs. [b]Players has the best talent and prices in the afternoon.[/b] Penthouse, well it's Penthouse. They have the hottest girls in Detroit. Prices are actually better than Flight Club. Night time, Coliseum and Penthouse are best.[/QUOTE]Copy that. Was there most of the afternoon. Saw a sharp blond I saw last week...student LOL. Better than last time.
Later in the afternoon there were three bar buddies there and one was talking to a Playmate who did a layout in the magazine. I talk to her after the first of the year, she just offers dances nothing more. But, if your bucket list includes getting your hands on a Playboy Playmate.have at it.
[QUOTE=Duckydo;2007089]If you're staying in Southfield, hit the 8 Mile clubs. Players has the best talent and prices in the afternoon. Penthouse, well it's Penthouse. They have the hottest girls in Detroit. Prices are actually better than Flight Club. Night time, Coliseum and Penthouse are best.[/QUOTE]Man.. I miss the Detroit clubs. Kentucky clubs suck big time.
[QUOTE=HeywoodJablomi;2000223]Both are bee-cup girls. Passion's look good, but feel slightly deflated. Colombiana's are super perky and firm, just the way you like them.[/QUOTE]Thanks Heywood,
Colombiana is on my to do list, and Passion goes on the skip list.
Appreciate the intel.
[QUOTE=HeywoodJablomi;2000228]At the time it made sense to take down the initial review, because Ebony Dream Girl asked nicely, and I wanted to maintain a good rapport with her, because both her company and her BBBJ were outstanding. Plus, I can understand a girl not wanting to advertise to everyone a service that she reserves for select clients. The other peeler, the Amazon Blondie with the mechanical BBBJ and the less pleasant attitude, was Trouble of Tycoons. I might as well put that one out there, since I won't be repeating.[/QUOTE]Heywood,
Good for you, glad to see you close out this issue in a positive way.
Marelobo.
[QUOTE=HeywoodJablomi;2002895]Yes, but some of us are. LOL. Why do you think YMMV? Some of these SC girls will do you for free if they're attracted to you. Once in a blue moon, sure. But it happens. My ugly friend Fred (let's call him) has a harder time getting what he wants in the SCs for the same prices. He calls it the "ugly tax." Also, sometimes (not usually, but sometimes) when a girl says, "I don't usually do this," she ain't lying.[/QUOTE]Heywood is right about this.
We are all humans and they may be getting paid and willing to be with guys they wouldn't if the guys were not paying them. But YMMV totally happens and just because you are paying doesn't mean you can't make a connection and enjoy each as one girl to one boy.
Also for each one of these girls there is a first hand job, blow job, sex. Frequently there is period where she will with one guy or a few guys before she basically becomes available to most guys. This is just part of how life works and if you make a connection enjoy it. She will also.
[QUOTE=JulesJordan;2003788]There were 12 dancers (one 8, mostly 7's, and a few 6's with a 30/70 colored to non-colored ratio) and about 22 customers when I arrived. Some familiar faces were Columbiana, Dallas, Kyla, Madison, and Sugar. Two cute white brunettes that caught my attention were Breanna (mid 20's with a tight body and a nice rack, the 8) and Lila (early 20's with a decent body and Bcup tits). After an hour of hanging out and talking with a few dancers Lila approached me. We chatted for awhile and she mentioned that it was her first day back to dancing after a 2 year break, also her and Breanna are good friends. Lila and I decided on half and half for the usual, no song count.
In the VIP we started with DFK then she gave me a BBBJ, her skills were solid with some sack licking. I did FIV to warm up her nice giner (she got very wet) then I covered up. We started with K9 and I worked her hard, it was hot how she kept telling me not to stop and make her climax. Next was CG, she was very energetic and yelled when she climaxed. During K9 and CG we did some more making out. She climbed off and I pulled the cover off then she performed BBBJ until I let loose but spit it out into the corner of the booth, she's not a fan of special shots. Afterwards, she told me that she hasn't done it in 5 months and that she was feeling very frisky.
In summary, Lila is a nice cute girl that provides a very good unrushed GFE so therefore I would repeat with her and hopefully I get to sample her friend Breanna one day.
[/QUOTE]JJ, great report, I appreciate the line up. It sounds like a lot of girls I would enjoy there.
Lila sounds excellent she is on my list.
[QUOTE=Incognito1234;2004637]I ended up going up there. I've seen Nadia up there a couple of times but haven't talked to her yet. Just like you, another girl mentioned that she was BJ only but in my conversation, we agreed that she'll either have to start doing more or leave, because she won't be able to compete after word gets around. I think I saw the Que you're talking about and it sounds like she may be worth a visit.
I'm always hesitant with girls that I haven't been in back with before, because you never know how it's going to turn out. There's one in particular that's been there a while that I'd talked to for a long time and she talked a good game, so I finally decided to go in back with her. What a huge disappointment. She didn't want to take off her thong and the BBBJ was dick only. She fondled my balls a bit but when I asked her to lick them, she wouldn't do it. Covered FS wasn't great either and very short due to not being able to maneuver around. She couldn't twist into K9 and it was just grab her by the hips and pump. Finally, I just took the condom off and told her to suck me (she swallows). Basically, it turned out to be an expensive BJ. I'm not going to name her here, because she'd know who I am if she reads the board. Anyway, it's just an example of being disappointed by a a trip to the back, even with someone who's been there a while. Too bad for her, because the bad experience means that I'll never go in the back with her again.[/QUOTE]I1234,
You are educated now and will never go back to her, but why not help the rest of us out.
We don't want to have that experience either.
I can understand keeping a great girl a secret, but a disappointing girl should be named.
[QUOTE=BigPuffDaddy;2005080]I think I was definitely the lucky recipient of YMMV on a recent night. I have been seeing this dancer in a certain club for like 6 months now. Never got a chance to ask for dances as she is either always tied up with a regular, didn't circulate around the club, or what ever reason. It was a slow night and I grabbed her as she walked by. I asked if she did extras. She said CBJ ONLY, no sex. Well, I was dieing to have this cute girl even if no sex. So off to the VIP we went for a nice CBJ that lasted about 15 minutes. Lots of eye contact. Then after awhile she said "I really want to fuck you if that's OK". Who am I to turn that down. So off we went with CFS. Great night. I don't want to name the club or the girl because if she really only rarely does FS I don't want every Tom, Dick, and Harry telling her they expect FS because some guy on the internet said she did for him.[/QUOTE]BPD,
Awesome work.
I have never had a stripper beg me to fuck them.
You continue to inspire.
[QUOTE=Duckydo;2005147]Extras can be had at the Landing Strip but it's not the norm. The ratio of "clean / dirty" girls are 50/50. You can get it but you have to be patient and work at it. It helps if you are a regular. Toy Chest (TC) and BT's both in safe areas. If you valet your car (highly recommended) then there is nothing to worry about. As someone said before, $7 for Bt's, $6 for TC. Both clubs are hit and miss right now with talent and extras. The weather has been reeking havoc on the clubs. Noon is slow for both clubs, although you do find a gem every once in a while (depending on what you're looking for). Nights tend to be better but week days, it's slow for both. Thurs. Sat are the best nights. I would get to the club before / by 6 p you can see who is left over on days. You may get a great bargain if they gals haven't made anything all day and they need tip out before they can leave. By 7 pm the night crew will arrive and you can see the talent during stage review. However, the really better looking girls won't really show up until 9 or 10. Prices are about the same in both clubs. $20 VIP tax for Bt's. $10 for small rooms, $20 for the bigger rooms at TC. You get a mix of older and young at both clubs although they tend to be younger at BT's. Both have girls that vary sizes, shapes, nationality, age-- again depending on what you're looking for. Asian girls are tough in Detroit. There's few up in the 8 mile clubs like Penthouse or Coliseum. You have an occasional rare one that try out Bt's and then disappears. Now the more important issue is the negotiations. Prices vary from $100 for BJ to FS up to $200. It depends on the girl. Your attitude, patience and expectations all come into line. As noted before, do your haggling at the table before you head off for fun. Don't come to the club looking and acting like a hoodlum and expect girls to give you extras for $20. It ain't going to happen. Don't be a fucking newb and contribute to stripperflation either. Dropping $500 to a Grand does not impress me. If you have money to blow, be my guest. For me the fun is in the negotiations. Being well dressed, groomed, and curteous manners will get you a long way. These girls have to get drunk or drugged up to get to work and deal with the likes of pervs like us. They don't need to be beat down to $60 and pocket lint. You have to decide what is reasonable for you but for me $100-120 for BJ and $120-160 for FS is reasonable, depending on the girl. If there is a girls I have the overwhelming desire to take back to VIP the I will go up a little more. That rarely happens for me in the Dearborn clubs. OTOH, some times you go and you find nothing you like or no girl will take your unreasonably low offer. That does happen but I always temper my expectations. Lastly, I'll mention about Flight Club. I have been going there a lot more lately. The talent is much higher then BT or TC, IMHO. However, your prices are also going to be higher as well. You can get extras but the fun begins around $200 and up. I have gotten extras for $120 there but that's far and few in between. There's so much more but I don't want to drag on here. My fingers are getting tired. Have fun and be safe.[/QUOTE]DD.
Great commentary, thanks for the reminder on how things work. I appreciated reading it.
[QUOTE=LuvtheLife;2005966]Well after getting in today I thought I would take someone's advice and take in the toy chest toward the end of day shift. I got there and there were only 4 girls, two older ones, a cute blonde spinner and a cute black spinner. I had my eye on the black spinner but she ended up with another customer before I got to talk to her.
The blonde spinner approached and sat down in my lap encouraging me to rub her ass while she rubbed my crotch and showed me her A tits with big nips. After 30 minutes of small talk we agree on a $80 BBBJCIM and head back to the room. As soon as we get back there she starts in about her headache and the BBBJ proves to be lack luster. I should have tipped for the warm up dance and left but instead decided to try some why spot. After letting her wear her mouth out some more I offer $40 more for FS, we settle aat $60 more for $140 total. This was just the ticket as she was nice and tight, she said I should let her know when I was going to explode and she would catch it her mouth. Big mistake, I should have just blown in the cover as she managed to get it all over my pants. Was it cheap stress relief, yes. Would I repeat, probably not. Her name was Jenni or Judi, it started with a J but the music was so loud I never caught the rest of it. Good hunting guys.[/QUOTE]LTL,
Sorry you didn't have that good of time. Keeping trying there is loads of fantasy to be had in Detroit. My experience is one out of every 4 sessions or so exceeds my expectations. For most of the rest, at least I get a load out.
[QUOTE=Duckydo;2006225]You're killing me Smalls. With an offer of CIM how did you managed to get it all over your pants?? For future advice to you Peeler chasers, bring your own toiletries! I keep napkins in one pocket and packets of wet naps in the other pocket. I clean myself up and I bring enough for the girl to do the same after we're done. They love that. Besides who wants to drive home with dried discharge stuck to your crotch and underwear? You did good for your first Detroit outing.[/QUOTE]DD,
Great advise, I always come with napkins or kleenex. I sometime decide to decorate their faces and I once had one use my shirt to clean up, after that I learned it is much better bring the clean up materials with me.
I stopped by yesterday and met with the second lady met in the post. She said she was great at BJ and we agreed on a price. I got CBJ but that is my preference. There was another girl there in back already on her knees too. After she left, she offered CFS for 0.4 more and I agreed. Best time I have had there in quite some time.
[QUOTE=BigAllova;1987991]I was feeling the itch on Friday so I hit the Ave. Looking for one of my favorite SW's unfortunately there were none out and about so I stopped into Club Venus. I ordered a bucket of beers.
And started checking out the talent. Within a few minutes I was approached by a very thick dancer who asked me right then and there is I wanted a BJ. She really didn't appeal to me so I passed.
A few minutes later another dancer who was a little thick but not at all fat approached and told me that she was great at giving BJ's and that I looked like I needed my the! Ck sucked. We agreed on an amount and headed to the back. Once there she got naked then pulled my pants down to my ankles. She then proceeded to give me one of the best BBBJ I've ever had. While she doing the.
Deed the first girl that approached me came to the back to do a dance. When she finished her dance and while I was getting blown she comes over and says this is my best friend you should have.
Had us both. I told her that I was prepared to pay for two but if I could get a sample that I would return this week. She agreed and in seconds they were both sucking me off and then almost.
Argued about who would swallow my load. All in all it was great. The thinner of the two offer OTC and gave me her digits her stage name is "a small red fruit". Total spent .12 on beer, .05 VIP tax, and .80 for the duo BJ.
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[QUOTE=MareloboMex;2008949]Heywood is right about this.
We are all humans and they may be getting paid and willing to be with guys they wouldn't if the guys were not paying them. But YMMV totally happens and just because you are paying doesn't mean you can't make a connection and enjoy each as one girl to one boy.
Also for each one of these girls there is a first hand job, blow job, sex. Frequently there is period where she will with one guy or a few guys before she basically becomes available to most guys. This is just part of how life works and if you make a connection enjoy it. She will also.[/QUOTE]MM is spot on about this. There have been at least three different dancers over the last couple of years at BTs, whom I experienced similar results. All three times it went just like this:
Me: "I see you're sitting all alone, sit with me." Her: "Ok".
Me, after buying a couple of drinks: "So do you know how the VIP works? What's on the menu (sic)?" Her: "Yes, but I only will get you off with foreplay or grinding (sic).".
Me: "Well I'm her for FS, so here's a parting tip ($5/$10). I don't want to keep you from 'making money' Her: "okay, thanks.".
Then when I saw them again 3 months later, they came right up to me. 2 of of the 3 said, "I remember you, want to do VIP?" The third didn't remember me, but we still fucked. The moral of this anecdote is, don't sweat them not giving you everything. Unless it happens all the time, in different places. In that case, change your technique and / or appearance.
My arrival time was 10:00, there were 16 dancers (a few 8's, mostly 7's, some 6's and a 30/70 colored to non-colored ratio) with about 40 customers. I sat at the bar and noticed some new faces (primarily younger dancers) since my last evening visit back in January, shortly after receiving my beer I was approached by Magic (early 20's, white, brunette, slightly curvy body and taller height, Bcup tits, some body tats, a tad ghetto). Magic mentioned that she previously worked at Subi's and just started working at BT's earlier this week. After some small talk we eventually arrived to the service subject, she wanted $$ for half and half and I told her that my absolute max was $.2 with no song count so we parted ways. Jules, a cute curvy ebony dancer, approached me next but unfortunately I'm not an ebony guy so we only spoke for a few minutes before she moved on. Next, a curvy enhanced DD rack brunette MILF named Delilah approached me and mentioned that she was also from Subi's. Initially I was very interested in Delilah but after chatting with her for a while I decided that she wasn't for me (seemed to be dull) so I sent her on her way. A mid 20's curvy dirty blonde named Loco (said she was from H8's) came up to me and was very upfront and quickly offered half and half for $ but I wasn't attracted to her so I politely declined. Finally, Magic came back and agreed to my initial offer so we headed to the VIP.
In the VIP Magic stripped down and I sucked on her tits some then she gave me a BBBJ, her skills were average with DT and licking the top. She didn't want any FIV so I suited up and we started with K9, she kept her ass slightly misaligned from me which made it difficult to get a good stride going. We switched to CG then after a minute or two of action she told me to hurry up and finish, she said it a few more times and I finished inside her after about 5 minutes.
Overall, Magic isn't a bad looking girl but I would definitely skip her for rushing.
A longtime friend invited me to attend the auto show in Detroit. We have attended semi-regularly over the years, and since his shrew-***** wife was out of town for a few days, I was happy to accept his invite to stay at his house. I flew in mid-afternoon on Friday, and suggested we hit a nice gentlemen's club and have a brew and maybe dinner. I've read this and other forums and was interested in trying out BT's in Dearborn, but my buddy was worried that there would be a high probability of seeing one of his co-workers (he works at a certain nearby auto company). Instead, he suggested that the Criket might be a suitable option.
We arrived in late afternoon, and there was no valet or cover charge. The club seemed smaller to me than it appeared from the outside, but the music wasn't so loud that conversation was impossible. The table we took was clean, there was only the hint of smoke in the air, and I rate our waitresses looks an 8, and her service a 9. As for dancers, I think we arrived near shift change but I would guess there were roughly a half dozen dancers on hand. A couple of 7's were tied up with what I assume were regulars, with the remaining one's also in the 6 - 7 range. After a brew, I hit the surprisingly clean bathroom, and on the way back almost ran into a late 30's MILFish brunette. I smiled and leaned over and made a proposal to her. She smiled back and said she would be right out. A few minutes later she came to our table and retrieved my dumbfounded friend and toook him back to the VIP area.
About 20 minutes later she returned to the table, and she gave me back $20 stating he didn't last that long. A few minutes later my friend came back with the biggest shoe-eating grin on his face and said she was amazing. I wasn't present of course, but given she returned $20 out of the $150 I gave her up front, this left a favorable impression on me. Unfortunately, my buddy's daughter called with a semi-emergency before I could sample any of the dancers myself. The next time I'm in the Detroit metro area, I might just return to the Criket.
[QUOTE=SteveBlack;2009248]MM is spot on about this. There have been at least three different dancers over the last couple of years at BTs, whom I experienced similar results. All three times it went just like this:
Me: "I see you're sitting all alone, sit with me." Her: "Ok".
Me, after buying a couple of drinks: "So do you know how the VIP works? What's on the menu (sic)?" Her: "Yes, but I only will get you off with foreplay or grinding (sic).".
Me: "Well I'm her for FS, so here's a parting tip ($5/$10). I don't want to keep you from 'making money' Her: "okay, thanks.".
Then when I saw them again 3 months later, they came right up to me. 2 of of the 3 said, "I remember you, want to do VIP?" The third didn't remember me, but we still fucked. The moral of this anecdote is, don't sweat them not giving you everything. Unless it happens all the time, in different places. In that case, change your technique and / or appearance.[/QUOTE]Well said. I have had several dancers at various clubs over the years tell me they only rarely do FS, but agree to do it with me. You can say that is just part of their game, to make me think I am getting special treatment, but then I read on the internet that other guys cannot get these same particular girls to agree to FS. I have had dancers say to me that most of the other guys who come into the club are weird, assholes, perverts, etc and I just seem like a normal guy who treats them with respect. Have had several dancers want to date me. So I guess YMMV and some girls may just have a connection with certain guys. Also, as you said-some girls don't do extras at first and then find they can't compete unless they do-so they may tell you no FS and a few months later are doing it with most guys who ask.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;2008949]Heywood is right about this.
We are all humans and they may be getting paid and willing to be with guys they wouldn't if the guys were not paying them. But YMMV totally happens and just because you are paying doesn't mean you can't make a connection and enjoy each as one girl to one boy.
Also for each one of these girls there is a first hand job, blow job, sex. Frequently there is period where she will with one guy or a few guys before she basically becomes available to most guys. This is just part of how life works and if you make a connection enjoy it. She will also.[/QUOTE]I think I am the recipient of a lot of YMMV, but I have never had a girl do me for free in the club. The closest I came was when it was the end of the shift and this dancer who I had turned down earlier said "I'm horny and just want to fuck-just give me whatever you feel like giving me and lets go to the VIP." So I gave her $60 for a BBBJ and CFS. I have also had a few occasions where the girl just forgets to ask for the money after we are done, and I give it to them anyways.
I was otw to Players and notice Scores will be opening on Monday. It will be interesting how they will compete with the other clubs. They had a sign out front saying no agents required for the dancers. Not sure if that makes a difference to dancers or not. Players was a good time as usual. Not a lot of dancers working but out of the ones that were there, there were a few gems. Saturday Bartender was hot would love to get her in back not sure any of bartenders or waitresses do dances at Players. I know at Bt's some of the waitress also do dances.
[QUOTE=BigPuffDaddy;2010326]I think I am the recipient of a lot of YMMV, but I have never had a girl do me for free in the club. The closest I came was when it was the end of the shift and this dancer who I had turned down earlier said "I'm horny and just want to fuck-just give me whatever you feel like giving me and lets go to the VIP." So I gave her $60 for a BBBJ and CFS. I have also had a few occasions where the girl just forgets to ask for the money after we are done, and I give it to them anyways.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify, I have never had freebies ITC. Only OTC with peelers who are away from work and just trying to have semi-normal sex lives.
[QUOTE=HeywoodJablomi;2010636]Just to clarify, I have never had freebies ITC. Only OTC with peelers who are away from work and just trying to have semi-normal sex lives.[/QUOTE]I hear ya brotha. I have been the recipient of that as well.
Must ask the more experienced members here, what are the best days of the week and hours to go to the hamulton clubs like bogarts and henrys?
[QUOTE=ArmySexy77;2010703]Must ask the more experienced members here, what are the best days of the week and hours to go to the hamulton clubs like bogarts and henrys?[/QUOTE]Henry's North. Monday.
Bogart's. Tuesday.
$10 Dance Day.
[QUOTE=BigPuffDaddy;2010696]I hear ya brotha. I have been the recipient of that as well.[/QUOTE]I've had a few freebies in the clubs. Usually its when the girl tried to hustle me out of extra cash and I caught her. They know I'm a regular there and therefore would be cut off of any future dances and $ All of the dances aren't dumb.
[QUOTE=BigPuffDaddy;2010696]I hear ya brotha. I have been the recipient of that as well.[/QUOTE]OTC how do you manage that? Then again due to economic reasons I cannot monger as much as I like.
[QUOTE=ArmySexy77;2011014]OTC how do you manage that? Then again due to economic reasons I cannot monger as much as I like.[/QUOTE]A lot of dancers are willing to do OTC. They don't have to pay a tipout from it, risk getting busted by the cops in a raid, a hotel / motel is a better atmosphere, etc. They just have to get the vibe that you aren't a psycho. Just ask.
Since I got my refund in the mail, I decided for to take some much needed are&are at Bogarts on MON.
Here is my After Action Review.
Had two VIP dances, one FS from a blonde was able to talk her down to $.40 and then a second dance three songs with I nice tight spinner brunette, was temping to go FS, but I already blew my load once and that booth just makes such activity awkward for me. I prefer that more roomier environments. I did get digits for some fun later, when the budget allows it.
[QUOTE=ArmySexy77;2011014]OTC how do you manage that? Then again due to economic reasons I cannot monger as much as I like.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls at FC will do OTC activity. Actually I prefer it then going to the club. I get the girl I want. When I want. I don't have to fight off the skanks to get to the good ones -and usually the girl will stay for several hours for just a little more then I would spend on her at the club.
They like it too. No tipout, no hassles, doesn't have to worry about get screwed out of money.
Everyone wins.
[QUOTE=ArmySexy77;2011785]Since I got my refund in the mail, I decided for to take some much needed are&are at Bogarts on MON.
Here is my After Action Review.
Had two VIP dances, one FS from a blonde was able to talk her down to $.40 and then a second dance three songs with I nice tight spinner brunette, was temping to go FS, but I already blew my load once and that booth just makes such activity awkward for me. I prefer that more roomier environments. I did get digits for some fun later, when the budget allows it.[/QUOTE]Kind of a vague report. I was there on Sunday and while the place wasn't dead, there was just nothing there to keep my interest. Been going there for years and it's just the same old cast of characters. Debbie, Lori, Tori, some AA dancers who I just personally was not interested in. Just boring. One hot little white spinner I think her name was Naomi. Probably not going back. The upside to my Sunday was I accidentally ran into Star who used to work at Bogie's at Henry's down the street. Always a good time, especially when it's an accident!
I was in the Detroit metro area visiting a buddy, but found myself solo on a late Saturday afternoon while he attended a function for his high school aged daughter. I was originally planning to attend, but he offered the use of a semi-experimental car (he's a long time auto company engineer), and I figured I would take the opportunity to pay a visit to one of the higher profile clubs in the area. Just as I was setting the alarm system at his house, his oldest son pulled into the driveway. While we're actually not related by blood, he's always called me uncle Sam, and I was happy to catch up with him.
He crossed the 21 barrier last year and suggested that he take me out for a beer. Given the fact that he is a second year medical student, I offered that in light of our present comparative financial positions, I would subsidize the financial transactions, but joked that he would give me a discount on a liver transplant if it became necessary in the future. We ended up taking the nicer of the two available rides, and soon we were off. When I suggested we drop by the Penthouse Club, he hesitated for a second and then beamed, "Hell yes!" I advanced him $200, and advised him to spend it wisely. Wink, wink.
By the time we had valeted the car, checked our coats, took our booth, and ordered our first drink, my wallet was about $100 lighter. I'd estimate the club was only 25% full at that point, but there were probably 15 -18 girls on hand and my "nephew's" head drifted back and forth like a security camera in a high risk zone. The overall dancer appearance was lower than I had expected, based on a summary of reports on this and other forums. IMHO there was only one 9, with a couple 8's, and the bulk of the rest were 7's. I was surprised at the number of girls with heavy ink displays, and the average age was a bit younger (25?) than I expected for this club.
Our waitress was very attractive and very attentive, and I would have happily paid for a trip to the VIP with her. We weren't approached by anyone at first, but before too long a 20-something with bolt-ons came and sat next to me. She completely ignored my younger companion, and was clearly pushing for a quick sale. She suggested we could have a lot of fun for $500 in VIP, and I suggested she should move on without making a counter offer. Just as I was about to go tip someone, two dancers piled in next to us. They one next to me was 30-ish, blonde, and vaguely reminiscent of a younger Heather Locklear. The other was in her early 20's and immediately began a distinctly private conversation with my nephew as she pushed her tongue into his left ear. "Heather" slowly reached in my trouser pocket as we chatted about nothing, and soon we reviewed a menu together. One thing about being a bit older is that you have the advantage of knowing what you like. "Heather" and I agreed the half and half selection was fairly priced, and that she would finish with a sampling of French cuisine. Soon I was handing the upstairs bouncer a picture of President Jackson, to round out $200 for my upstairs trip.
About 25 minutes later I returned downstairs to find my nephew missing, so I sat and ordered a soft drink. About 10 minutes later he returned looking like he had just finished the first half of a football game, complete with "helmet head". I bought him a beer and he related that negotiations failed to produce an accord with the first girl. For a few minutes he waited and then went to the bar and ended up talking up an eastern European girl that he ended up taking to the VIP area. While there was no surprise that he ended up with nothing left in his wallet (250), he was definitely a happy camper, and I have been nominated for uncle of the year. We returned back to my buddy's place just in time for us to clean up prior to other people arriving home.
Overall, my takeaway impression of the the club is that it merits the "upscale" tag. The dancers on this visit were less attractive than I expected however, and given that there are multiple other options in the Detroit metro area, I probably won't return immediately to the Penthouse Club.
[QUOTE=BigPuffDaddy;2011782]A lot of dancers are willing to do OTC. They don't have to pay a tipout from it, risk getting busted by the cops in a raid, a hotel / motel is a better atmosphere, etc. They just have to get the vibe that you aren't a psycho. Just ask.[/QUOTE]They'd have to be pretty damn discreet about it, right? I'm not an SC regular but I'd expect the club would be pissed if their girls are making off-premises dates without the club getting a cut. I once scooped a girl for BJ who was walking (home, she claimed) and who told me she worked at a club but that I could not tell a soul about it.
[QUOTE=BigPuffDaddy;2011782]A lot of dancers are willing to do OTC. They don't have to pay a tipout from it, risk getting busted by the cops in a raid, a hotel / motel is a better atmosphere, etc. They just have to get the vibe that you aren't a psycho. Just ask.[/QUOTE]There are some parameters that you may want to consider, in addition to what has been stated.
1) Being a regular helps tremendously. If they see you in the club, that helps with the psychology element. Especially of you are spending money.
2) Keeping your mouth (and fingers) shut about your exploits goes a long way. The girls talk, it's a fact. Also some do read this site (including house moms). If you bragged about OTC with a dancer by name, it will likely get back to her.
3) You can pick up girls who didn't make enough money after their shift. Or you can plan ahead before your next visit. There are multiple techniques. Some prefer to be regulars at the bar, spending as little as possible, trying to be a BF or a FB. I prefer to get VIP dances (FS), then if I want more, I'll ask for the digits. Before the next visit I'll coordinate my schedule with them, and ask for a private show.
Some dancers want that money, but cannot meet up after their shift. Others would prefer to do the one private show instead of being on shift for 7 hours. Of course the club wants their money, but they can't stop this, as long as everyone is discreet.