Mons prices have gone WAY up
Stopped by Mons Venus for the normal evening of $25 dances, which I normally enjoy just because the girls are so hot! However, they have added some 'private' rooms with a drape and I was told they no longer do dances on the couches, but instead only in the draped rooms, at $50 per song! Songs at Mons are normally very short, like maybe 3-5 min (never actually timed them but they normally end well before the song is done). So OUCH, $50 just takes all the fun out of Mons. Hope they will reconsider because maybe that was why there were VERY few guys there. Lots of Pretty girls, but not many customers, probably due to the new pricing. I will try again sometime later to see if that has changed, but if not, my favorite Tampa club will get marked off my list.
More thoughts on changes at the Mons
Draping off seating for dances could be a step in the right direction if the added privacy translates to getting a little more action with the dances. But not if it also serves as an excuse to raise the already high dance prices by 100%. After all, how much more can the dancers do behind the curtain with just 3 minutes per song. To do anything worthwhile it takes at least a couple of songs and how many guys are going to be willing to drop $100 for probably just at best a 6 minute handjob.
More thoughts on changes at the Mons
[QUOTE=ChaseStar;4973803]Draping off seating for dances could be a step in the right direction if the added privacy translates to getting a little more action with the dances. But not if it also serves as an excuse to raise the already high dance prices by 100%. After all, how much more can the dancers do behind the curtain with just 3 minutes per song. To do anything worthwhile it takes at least a couple of songs and how many guys are going to be willing to drop $100 for probably just at best a 6 minute handjob.[/QUOTE]According to one of the dancers I have kept in touch with through this, they will also do $200 for 15 minutes. That's closer to Vegas pricing, but if you still have any stimulus money left (no pun intended), it's a bit better than running a $50-per tab. And IMHO, Joe has treated us right over the years--middle finger to the 6' rule and keeping a stable of great looking talent. I'm not stepping up for $50 and don't encourage anyone to. It won't last, but when / if things get "back to normal," I probably wouldn't mind a few bucks more than they used to be.
Strip clubs loosey goosey pants
[QUOTE=Fimes;4978657]If you walk into a Tampa club in loose shorts or sweats, nobody in the place can claim they don't know why. You either won't get in the door at some places, or if you don some girls may just avoid you. Others probably prefer sweats to grinding away on rough demin. Either way, just get some golf shorts. They look like nice shorts from a distance, but are thin and flexible. And they have pockets for all your cash that are harder to pick.
As to the rest, don't ask up front. She's required legally to say "no. " Just get a few dances and at the right time, lean in and let her know she's approaching the point of no return. She may jump away and thank you for the warning that it is. If she doesn't move away, or. . . You know. . . Moves closer, you'll be giving her a tip momentarily. Either way, no naked woman straddling you in a public club can truly be offended by that.[/QUOTE]I always wear a bathing suit and never an issue and at 2001 odessey it's too dark to tell at the front where you pay and I always wip it out during dance when she faces away from me at 2001 and half the time not an issue, just rubbing it on her ass the other half say put it back or cut the dance short and tell the bouncer but never been tossed out but called troublemaker a lot. Whenever I go to 2001 I go to bar first and always point to a stripper and say she said its on her. Also, at 2001 the $6 bucs for the dance rooms I do not pay, I tell girl when he asks for money that she's paying. If refused I back out of dance. I have wife and girlfriend so it's probably easier for me to act like an asshole since I can get ass frequently but like us all, once you see I girl naked you want to see them all naked.
"Proper" strip club attire
Rule #1 for strip clubs is to never wear jeans if you plan to get a lap dance (or even just some stroking table side). The material is too thick thus reducing the sensation for you and too rough making them less desirable for even many of the dancers. You also want to wear something loose to allow for expansion and, unless you're wearing dad jeans, most jeans are much too tight.
Beyond that, what you choose to wear is largely a matter of personal choice. Golf shorts are fine as long as the material they're made of is usually much thinner than the denim used in jeans, while at the same time being "respectable" or not so obvious in their intended purpose (plus they usually use a lighter polyester zipper as opposed to the heavier metal one used in jeans), but I prefer to take it a few steps beyond that.
A bathing suit is certainly another option (as long as we're not talking speedo's) and they don't have any zipper at all, but they normally have a mesh liner inside that is attached at the waist, which produces some restriction of movement as well as an extra layer of "interference". For that reason, my #1 recommendation would be gym shorts. You'd still have that extra layer of interference from your underwear (unless you also go commando, which I don't recommend for reasons I'll explain in a bit). However unlike with bathing suits, that separate layer of underwear can always be reached in and discretely yanked down immediately before the dance if you so choose while leaving the gym shorts in place and everything appearing proper to the casual viewer.
Another advantage of loose fitting shorts over jeans is that they allow the possibility of a dancer slipping her hand up your pants leg while sitting by you at the table (which does occasionally happen). However, there are times where you may not want to wear shorts. For example when visiting clubs in the evening, particularly on cooler winter nights. On those occasions, I'd recommend cargo pants (the type made out of the light quick dry material not the heavier duty type). Advantages (other than not being so obvious "out-to-cum" pants): thin material, quick-dry (after you cum, BTW darker shade pants will hide any wet spot better than lighter shades like khaki), thin zipper AND those lower velcro sealing side pockets are a good place to shift stuff like wallet, phone and KEYS away from any area where they might get in the way or even cause pain.
All of the above may not add much new to this discussion topic but there is one last aspect of strip club attire that hasn't been mentioned which should. What to wear on top. If you think you might be sporting a wet spot or a residual boner after your dance, I'd strongly recommend you wear a loose fitting shirt that you can wear untucked AND has long tails as that can help hide a multitude of sins as you walk away after your dance. Even more importantly, if you think you might get away with actually slipping down the waist band of your gym shorts for a little flesh on flesh action, the bunched up shirt tail can help hide what's going on underneath from any passing club manager or bar patron. Shit, there have been times when, thanks to that method, I've been able to actually slip my dick in during a regular lap dance (even in the semi-public areas) without anyone besides me and the dancer being any the wiser.
Coming during a lap dance
IMHO, all of you guys who have replied to the original poster about what you have been able to do in the 15 minute VIP rooms have been missing his point. If you're going to pay upwards of $100 or more (plus any tip) for $15 minutes in a private (or at least semi-private) VIP area, I would hope that the very least would be that you could unleash your load (from frottage if nothing else). What I think that poster was asking about is what can you get away with in the normally at least semi-public individual lap dance area.
Of course that varies to some degree from dancer to dancer, club to club and, as one of us pointed out from one part of the state or country to another. In the Tampa area we're blessed with the sheer number of clubs given our population, their relative affordability and the amount of action we can get for our money. I'd say being able to do what the OP was asking about is more the norm in this area than the exception.
There are a few caveats. Dancer selection is important. One won't be able to find reviews here on most dancers (though its great when you can) but there are other ways to pre-screen First, do NOT believe what any of them promise before the dance. #1, most of them will not get specific to a stranger (and possibly LEO) and #2 often those who promise the most are the most full of shit. Second, DO observe their behavior on stage and around the bar with other patrons. Do they practically come off the stage and push their pussues in the faces of guys at stageside during their dance, or even go so far to grind on their laps for tips or keep to the stage or pole. How wild is their dance? Do they stick to the pole and do mostly tease moves or do they get closer to the patrons and do full on spreads? How much do they take off relative to other girls in the club AND how quickly (e.g. fewer points for waiting until the last few seconds of the last song)? Do they keep their tip garter closer to their knee or their pussy and how much of a feel do they let guys take when they tip? I normally wait until the last song to tip and always go for the "high garter" (or panty strap if its still on) and try to "accidentally" brush the back of my hand against their bare pussy (or else slip my fingers a little inside the panties along with my bills) and then gauge their reaction.
One last word of advice on dancer selection, though naturally we'll want to go for the hottest looking dancer available, its not unusual for those dancers to be the least forthcoming, probably because they don't have to be to still make their money. I'm not saying one should go for the beasts, but often a 7 will beat a 10 when it comes to quality of service.
Okay, so you've made you dancer selection and / or have taken a leap of faith as to what you might get from her. How to tell how much you can get away with in the lap dance area? Well for one thing, how busy it is back there could make a huge difference. Two for one specials are great for saving money but a) it usually means other couples nearby and possibly more reluctance by the dancer being seen giving too much away and b) since the dancer is making less money on those dances more reluctance to give too much away audience or not.
Regardless of when you go or who else is back there, you'll get clues as to what's in store once she starts dancing. In many other parts of the country, lap dances are really more what I'd call "air dances" with the girl dancing in front of you, perhaps between your legs but with only occasional brushes up against your crotch. HOW FUCKING LAME! Zero chance of having the problem of getting off anyway. Fortunately, such dances are the exception rather than the norm around here. Another thing that you'll encounter in other areas (to the point of actually being required to sit on your hands) is a "no touch rule. Again, HOW LAME and fortunately exceedingly rare around here. What you'll find are SOME dancers who, while they'll allow touching on other parts of their bodies, will move your hands away if you try to touch their "bikini areas". I always try to test those boundaries first and, in those cases where I've been limited, resign myself to cutting my losses and having ONE very lackluster dance.
Far more common around here is that you'll get a dancer who not only allows relatively unfettered access (if not actual FIV) but will do a full on up and down grind on your hard dick (after allowing you to make any necessary adjustments to alignment). They may start out with more simple teasing to get you started, particularly on the first song, but if you make it clear what you expect will usually deliver for you after that (or advise you that's as far as she goes). They ALL expect you to get hard and most have experienced or even expect to get some guys off. Fairly few around here, will get huffy or offended by it and as to those who do, fuck 'them. They work in a strip joint, they should either expect a few pervs or find another line of work that doesn't offend their precious sensibilities.
Some points of etiquette, if you come on the 1st song she may be more disappointed that she didn't get more songs out of you than angry about you coming, so its nice to add a bit of a tip for a job well done. Also, its always nice to give some indication when you're about to come so that she can shift her position to avoid coming into contact with that wet spot or getting any on her. She may not even care about that but if you do make a mess its nice to have some wipes or even pocketed a couple of paper towels from the men's room before the dance to wipe up afterwards. Lastly, always try to be discreet as possible both during the dance and afterwards while walking away.
I see an Amazon Best Seller
The Gentleman's Guide to the Gentleman's Club by Chase Star.
