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[QUOTE=Ozymandias;3368774]Yeah, the "pretend to get my wallet" thing, which has occurred to 100% of concealed carriers when they've visualized a stand off, is pretty much guaranteed to fail in the case of an assailant actually covering you with a drawn firearm.

Even assuming you train your concealed draw constantly (and you can get pretty fast), the time from draw, to presentation, to aim is much, much slower than the trigger action of a readied firearm. Of course, there are fighting systems designed for facing an armed opponent (krav maga comes to mind), but basically if you're in the unavoidable situation of having to engage a guy who's holding a gun on you, drawing yours is less effective than moving closer, pushing the gun hand aside, and taking it to the floor. This is a good time to carry a knife (which so many concealed carriers seem to neglect!

But that's only if you KNOW the guy is shooting you regardless of compliance, like maybe it's a young thug out to prove himself. Otherwise, it's always going to be best to comply, lose some money, and call it a good story.

And of course, simple protocols (like "never go to the Red Carpet Inn on Old National") can prevent robberies entirelyear old.

O.

ps. This post should end with the word "entirely", not "entirelyear old", but the Frankenstein's Monster set of out of control editorial settings of this forum fuck up any sentence ending in "Y" . I'm just leaving it as is as a monument to how not to program a forum.[/QUOTE]Good advice, Oz. And any seasoned monger knows not to bring a wallet stuffed with money and credit cards in the first place. Bring only what you can afford to lose!

[QUOTE=Ronny770;3369009]I got to get me one, but wait. I just want to say BB LOVE you are the funniest reviewer I ever came across. When I first signed up for this site I read all your reviews and was crying laughing. You need to write a book or something.[/QUOTE]Aww thanks Ronny. You made my day. Mabye I will consider writing a book titled "The Life of a Craigslist Sperm Donor. ".

I need to know how to register for this event this year.

[QUOTE=Infatuated;3374185]I need to know how to register for this event this year.[/QUOTE]Too funny. Where did you find that?

[QUOTE=Infatuated;3374185]I need to know how to register for this event this year.[/QUOTE]Apply as a keynote speaker.

Does anybody know about using a prepaid or burner phone? Been thinking about getting one.

I'm looking for some blue diamonds asap. If anyone can point me in the right direction it would be much appreciated.

Get a tracfone an follow these rules.

[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;3359543]
Yes indeed, that is the best option IMHO. The only thing I do different is that I get the one year prepaid card so I don't have to reload so often.

Otherwise follow all those instructions carefully.

Never turn on phone at home or work.

Make sure it's not a smartphone as they are more traceable.

Keep all your monger contacts in burner and NOT on real phone.

Pay CASH always.

Put password on burner.

Add other bogus contacts to mix it in with provider numbers.

NO pics ever. NO personal info ever.

Don't bring it in to date. Leave at car.

Use public phone to register the Tracfone and when asked for a recovery number just make one up.

Something fishy? Crush it and move on.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zipper34;3378504]Does anybody know about using a prepaid or burner phone? Been thinking about getting one.[/QUOTE]

Anyone know where any of the Exotic Flavors girls are?

[QUOTE=TheDude1;3380948]Anyone know where any of the Exotic Flavors girls are?[/QUOTE]A lot of them are posting under [URL]exceptionalbookings.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=TheDude1;3380948]Anyone know where any of the Exotic Flavors girls are?[/QUOTE]Exceptional Bookings. On the oThER site.

Exotic Atlanta and J2 U were big a few years back. Now I think Exotic is still around, any other similar agencies pop up and can be recommended?

[QUOTE=Dirk69;3385055]Exotic Atlanta and J2 U were big a few years back. Now I think Exotic is still around, any other similar agencies pop up and can be recommended?[/QUOTE]Sending you a PM.

Hey guys,

I thought I'd just put down some thoughts about this whole thing and relate some of my experiences. I've grown weary of the working girls and the games / drama. I never was a fan of it but as I've aged I just don't have a tolerance for it anymore. There have been a few fun ones along the way (Sugar Kane, Heather, the spinner and Michelle come to mind) but even them, as they age they lose that edge and playfulness and it becomes more routine and about the money. I've sat here reading so many posts and even you guys have confirmed my feelings on this so I changed my approach.

I've posted a couple of times about Seeking Arrangement. Well lately I've been hitting pay dirt and it is like to old days! I won't say it takes some work and the level of BS and catfishing is beyond the pail but in the end when you find a gem it is truly a gem. They are not street hardened and boring, they are negotiable when coached right, they are more into it and looking for some closeness and enjoy giving and many just seek some approval that they haven't gotten from anyone else in a long time if ever so they are very appreciative. I've not spent over 100 for anyone and it's always been over an hour, no clocks enter into the equation, the chase is half of the fun (for me anyway) and trying to work them into position to really give it their all, they will send any pics you ask for and you can direct them to take any angle or position or pose!

It costs like $80 a month for guys to have full access but they are tons of girls and so many that live too far away that I've had opportunity to be with that it breaks my heart. I live way too far out west to have anything with most north or east ATL women so the pool is full. I've even turned out a couple for you guys here from time to time but I have a couple of special UTR's that you mongers aren't getting you hands on, LOL.

My point is, it's all still out there but the last ones can stay with the low hanging fruit off BP and CL because they are already advertising their wares but for the industrious ones of you that enjoy the hunt as much as the catch you need to sign up now!

BTW: I'm not shilling for a website nor am I being paid for this announcement, LOL.

Let me know your thoughts or if you have any questions just drop me a line and definitely let me know how you are doing if you jump in!

Thanks guys, that's my Public Service Announcement for today!

[QUOTE=SkyHighBuilder;3407259]Hey guys,

I thought I'd just put down some thoughts about this whole thing and relate some of my experiences. I've grown weary of the working girls and the games / drama. I never was a fan of it but as I've aged I just don't have a tolerance for it anymore. There have been a few fun ones along the way (Sugar Kane, Heather, the spinner and Michelle come to mind) but even them, as they age they lose that edge and playfulness and it becomes more routine and about the money. I've sat here reading so many posts and even you guys have confirmed my feelings on this so I changed my approach.

I've posted a couple of times about Seeking Arrangement. Well lately I've been hitting pay dirt and it is like to old days! I won't say it takes some work and the level of BS and catfishing is beyond the pail but in the end when you find a gem it is truly a gem. They are not street hardened and boring, they are negotiable when coached right, they are more into it and looking for some closeness and enjoy giving and many just seek some approval that they haven't gotten from anyone else in a long time if ever so they are very appreciative. I've not spent over 100 for anyone and it's always been over an hour, no clocks enter into the equation, the chase is half of the fun (for me anyway) and trying to work them into position to really give it their all, they will send any pics you ask for and you can direct them to take any angle or position or pose!

It costs like $80 a month for guys to have full access but they are tons of girls and so many that live too far away that I've had opportunity to be with that it breaks my heart. I live way too far out west to have anything with most north or east ATL women so the pool is full. I've even turned out a couple for you guys here from time to time but I have a couple of special UTR's that you mongers aren't getting you hands on, LOL.

My point is, it's all still out there but the last ones can stay with the low hanging fruit off BP and CL because they are already advertising their wares but for the industrious ones of you that enjoy the hunt as much as the catch you need to sign up now!

BTW: I'm not shilling for a website nor am I being paid for this announcement, LOL.

Let me know your thoughts or if you have any questions just drop me a line and definitely let me know how you are doing if you jump in!

Thanks guys, that's my Public Service Announcement for today![/QUOTE]I'm sure the donation amount varies greatly depending on several factors.

But, based on your experience, if I was looking for a lady between 25 - 35, race unimportant, lower middle economic status, sane, looking for help on the monthly bills, who would enjoy being treated special a couple times each month, who would dependably fuck my (I'm professional, clean, a gentleman, in great shape) brains out a couple times each month, WHAT WOULD BE MY EXPECTED FANANCIAL COMMITMENT? Just a guesstimate?

Also, am I required to post my image and personal information?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=MoonshineXXX;3408314]I'm sure the donation amount varies greatly depending on several factors.

But, based on your experience, if I was looking for a lady between 25 - 35, race unimportant, lower middle economic status, sane, looking for help on the monthly bills, who would enjoy being treated special a couple times each month, who would dependably fuck my (I'm professional, clean, a gentleman, in great shape) brains out a couple times each month, WHAT WOULD BE MY EXPECTED FANANCIAL COMMITMENT? Just a guesstimate?

Also, am I required to post my image and personal information?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]This is up to you. How good is your game? Set your on level of commitment and keep messaging til you get what you want. YMMV but I've had offers from 50 to 5000 (HA!) The deal is that many of them think this is their "Pretty Woman" moment and some Richard Geer type will scoop them up, LOL. Problem is that most of them aren't in that league to begin with so you need to coax them down off that ledge gently and bring them into the real world. It won't work every time so be willing to count your losses and move on to the next one.

We've all heard about athletes and politicians that got caught up with pros. My question is, if you were a millionaire or billionaire that still liked BP and craigslist pros for some reason, what precautions would you take so that you would stay anonymous? I mean other than a burner and fake name. Only sugar babies with NDAs? Masks and connected hotel rooms? Only high-end pros? What could these guys have done to avoid their situations?

[QUOTE=HeadHunting;3409112]We've all heard about athletes and politicians that got caught up with pros. My question is, if you were a millionaire or billionaire that still liked BP and craigslist pros for some reason, what precautions would you take so that you would stay anonymous? I mean other than a burner and fake name. Only sugar babies with NDAs? Masks and connected hotel rooms? Only high-end pros? What could these guys have done to avoid their situations?[/QUOTE]Not send pictures of themselves naked or half naked with their face to girls like that one senator Anthony Weiner did. That is a good way to have your secrets come out.

[QUOTE=Zipper34;3409440]Not send pictures of themselves naked or half naked with their face to girls like that one senator Anthony Weiner did. That is a good way to have your secrets come out.[/QUOTE]And he did that a lot of times too. It wasn't even just one chick. I wonder what these guys are thinking. They're rich enough to go on sex tours to any country they want and then they would have probably been fine.

[QUOTE=HeadHunting;3409112]We've all heard about athletes and politicians that got caught up with pros. My question is, if you were a millionaire or billionaire that still liked BP and craigslist pros for some reason, what precautions would you take so that you would stay anonymous? I mean other than a burner and fake name. Only sugar babies with NDAs? Masks and connected hotel rooms? Only high-end pros? What could these guys have done to avoid their situations?[/QUOTE]Simple, just using basic common sense!

[QUOTE=HeadHunting;3409112]We've all heard about athletes and politicians that got caught up with pros. My question is, if you were a millionaire or billionaire that still liked BP and craigslist pros for some reason, what precautions would you take so that you would stay anonymous? I mean other than a burner and fake name. Only sugar babies with NDAs? Masks and connected hotel rooms? Only high-end pros? What could these guys have done to avoid their situations?[/QUOTE]I would just have someone else book the girls for me.

It's no different from hiring a lawn guy or a housekeeper: you put a layer of people between you and something you'd prefer not to handle yourself (mowing the lawn or cleaning the house). I mean, I've hired people to stand in line for me!

There are folks who make a living connecting respectable people with the underbelly of society, procuring girls for them, buying drugs for them, getting invite only tickets to events, and so on. I've always referred to them as "fixers", but I assume they go by various names.

O.

[QUOTE=Ozymandias;3409587]I would just have someone else book the girls for me.

It's no different from hiring a lawn guy or a housekeeper: you put a layer of people between you and something you'd prefer not to handle yourself (mowing the lawn or cleaning the house). I mean, I've hired people to stand in line for me!

There are folks who make a living connecting respectable people with the underbelly of society, procuring girls for them, buying drugs for them, getting invite only tickets to events, and so on. I've always referred to them as "fixers", but I assume they go by various names.

O.[/QUOTE]That makes sense. I wonder how many of them get blackmailed though.

I have not spent any time on Erotic Monkey, but happened to be looking on there and I actually came across a review that I wrote on the oThER site that was posted with someone else's user name. So my question is, does anyone know if they are intentionally taking reviews from other sites and posting them to beef up their creds or was this just some individual doing it on their own? They had the juicy details section so whoever did it would have had a full membership on the oThER site.

Just curious.

[QUOTE=2me4Looking2;3493258]I have not spent any time on Erotic Monkey, but happened to be looking on there and I actually came across a review that I wrote on the oThER site that was posted with someone else's user name. So my question is, does anyone know if they are intentionally taking reviews from other sites and posting them to beef up their creds or was this just some individual doing it on their own? They had the juicy details section so whoever did it would have had a full membership on the oThER site.

Just curious.[/QUOTE]Yes, they scrape other sites for their content.

O.

[QUOTE=HeadHunting;3410168]That makes sense. I wonder how many of them get blackmailed though.[/QUOTE]I'm sure it happens; instant loss of credibility for the connect, though. I'm sure there are bodies planted in the Vegas desert of guys who decided to get cute with their insider info.

My concern in dealing with connections is the "retirement gotcha"; they decide to hang up their hat and disappear, but first cash out by spamming their clients with blackmail. I know escort agency owners have done things like this when they decided to retire; another reason to develop a false identity to use in dealing with these folks.

Easier said than done, of course!

O.

[QUOTE=HeadHunting;3409112]We've all heard about athletes and politicians that got caught up with pros. My question is, if you were a millionaire or billionaire that still liked BP and craigslist pros for some reason, what precautions would you take so that you would stay anonymous? I mean other than a burner and fake name. Only sugar babies with NDAs? Masks and connected hotel rooms? Only high-end pros? What could these guys have done to avoid their situations?[/QUOTE]One: I would have a house set up through a shell company where I entertain ladies. Two: I would pay someone I trusted to basically have sex with girls and vet them before I see them. Three: Use a modest car that was purchased through a shell company. Burner phone, pay cash. And last but not least. Pray like hell.

Anyone have an Asian utr?

[QUOTE=JusTheTip;3493759]Anyone have an Asian utr?[/QUOTE]Who does not?

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;3493813]Who does not?[/QUOTE]I don't. Wish I did.

[QUOTE=Ronny770;3493713]One: I would have a house set up through a shell company where I entertain ladies. Two: I would pay someone I trusted to basically have sex with girls and vet them before I see them. Three: Use a modest car that was purchased through a shell company. Burner phone, pay cash. And last but not least. Pray like hell.[/QUOTE]I like the way you guys think.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;3493813]Who does not?[/QUOTE]I for one. I'm so not interested in spas.

Don't quite remember who recommended SA, but holy crap were you right. It is $80 to join for a month, but less than 24 hours after joining I was balls deep in a cute thin white girl with a gorgeous ass, BBFSCIP, total charge $70. Best of all was that her personality was 100% "real life girl," not a hint of ho bullshit or world-weariness about her. It was like fucking a cute little girl next door. Not sure how much of her being into it was an act, but don't really care, that shit gets me off if they can do it convincingly.

[QUOTE=Jaybirds;3497419]Don't quite remember who recommended SA, but holy crap were you right. It is $80 to join for a month, but less than 24 hours after joining I was balls deep in a cute thin white girl with a gorgeous ass, BBFSCIP, total charge $70. Best of all was that her personality was 100% "real life girl," not a hint of ho bullshit or world-weariness about her. It was like fucking a cute little girl next door. Not sure how much of her being into it was an act, but don't really care, that shit gets me off if they can do it convincingly.[/QUOTE]Photo of the girl I met on SA, BTW. So damned cute.

[QUOTE=Jaybirds;3497419]Don't quite remember who recommended SA, but holy crap were you right. It is $80 to join for a month, but less than 24 hours after joining I was balls deep in a cute thin white girl with a gorgeous ass, BBFSCIP, total charge $70. Best of all was that her personality was 100% "real life girl," not a hint of ho bullshit or world-weariness about her. It was like fucking a cute little girl next door. Not sure how much of her being into it was an act, but don't really care, that shit gets me off if they can do it convincingly.[/QUOTE]A shot of the girl I ended up with. Cute as all hell.

[QUOTE=Jaybirds;3497419]Don't quite remember who recommended SA, but holy crap were you right. It is $80 to join for a month, but less than 24 hours after joining I was balls deep in a cute thin white girl with a gorgeous ass, BBFSCIP, total charge $70. Best of all was that her personality was 100% "real life girl," not a hint of ho bullshit or world-weariness about her. It was like fucking a cute little girl next door. Not sure how much of her being into it was an act, but don't really care, that shit gets me off if they can do it convincingly.[/QUOTE]Do you mind sharing your basic strategy? The only 18-20 year olds I've found that available wanted like $$$ up front! Did you wine and dine first? What is your initial convo / approach like?

OK. After reading testimonial after testimonial, I too have started the process of creating a profile on SA.

Question: I notice it allows you to join for FREE if you provide a pic. Of you currently on SA, who has chosen this option? If so, who provided a fake vs. Real pic?

Question: Is one better over underestimating net worth and actual salary, or overestimating?

Question: Once you start getting hints, how long do you conversation before meeting / fucking?

Question: Once you've started an "arrangement", how careful are you about protecting your personal information?

Question: By and large, how many ladies are just looking for NSA fun vs. Some possessive / LT commitment?

Question: I travel quite a bit, usually to the same cities. I'd like to use SA to set up a regular friend in each city. What are the pros and cons of this approach?

Question: We each have our own hobby budget. What do the economics look like in the SA universe?

Sorry for all the questions. Just want to get as educated as possible befor diving in.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Jaybirds;3497419]Don't quite remember who recommended SA, but holy crap were you right. It is $80 to join for a month, but less than 24 hours after joining I was balls deep in a cute thin white girl with a gorgeous ass, BBFSCIP, total charge $70. Best of all was that her personality was 100% "real life girl," not a hint of ho bullshit or world-weariness about her. It was like fucking a cute little girl next door. Not sure how much of her being into it was an act, but don't really care, that shit gets me off if they can do it convincingly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MoonshineXXX;3498133]OK. After reading testimonial after testimonial, I too have started the process of creating a profile on SA.

Question: I notice it allows you to join for FREE if you provide a pic. Of you currently on SA, who has chosen this option? If so, who provided a fake vs. Real pic?

Question: Is one better over underestimating net worth and actual salary, or overestimating?

Question: Once you start getting hints, how long do you conversation before meeting / fucking?

Question: Once you've started an "arrangement", how careful are you about protecting your personal information?

Question: By and large, how many ladies are just looking for NSA fun vs. Some possessive / LT commitment?

Question: I travel quite a bit, usually to the same cities. I'd like to use SA to set up a regular friend in each city. What are the pros and cons of this approach?

Question: We each have our own hobby budget. What do the economics look like in the SA universe?

Sorry for all the questions. Just want to get as educated as possible befor diving in.

Thanks![/QUOTE]1. The free trial gets you a limited number of messages, pay the $80 for a month. Thank me later. I use my real pic, but I'm single. If you want set your pic to private and only let them see it after you have chatted with them and feel comfortable.

2. Just tell the truth, I don't think matters. I have mine set at 100 K.

3. I setup a meeting as fast as possible, the girls often get cold feet (flake), I personally prefer to meet them and see if I have any desire to fuck them, some guys will fuck a snake if somebody will hold it's head, not me. 8 out of 10 times I have went from a dinner meeting to my place.

4. Personal info should be kept at a bare minimum if you are married, otherwise it's at your own discretion after you've met them.

5. I'd say 90% are looking for NSA, I haven't encountered any that demand a LT clingy relationship, but I tend to avoid profiles that seem like that's what they are after.

6. Traveling to the same cities often, having a regular girl should be easy. It's just weeding thru the available girls in that town and sifting thru the flakes, setting up meets etc. That takes time. I let them know I visit often and would like someone to spend downtime with.

7. What you can spend is only known by you, but expect to find the best girls in the 200-250 per meet range, some cities are higher. NY City for example is on average 300-450 for the same girl. The biggest difference is that you can expect to spend a couple of hours or maybe even an overnight for those rates, the girls aren't as jaded, some are just as hot as the top TER girls for 1/4 the price and no clock to send you packing.

[QUOTE=NeedyUnchin;3498106]Do you mind sharing your basic strategy? The only 18-20 year olds I've found that available wanted like $$$ up front! Did you wine and dine first? What is your initial convo / approach like?[/QUOTE]I'd say this girl was probably 28-30, but had a very girlish quality so seemed younger. I think I must have caught her in a moment of need because there was no wining, no dining, just show up and go at it.

As far as my initial approach and convo, it has varied form girl to girl. But I have the word Daddy in my username so a lot of them slip into the Daddy / princess talk, which lets me know they are DTF and not looking for a relationship.

To be clear, I think this $70 thing was probably me hitting it lucky first day out (the first girl I talked numbers with wanted $200), but you've got to know there are other diamonds in there too. And if you have more of a budget than me and can provide some kind of monthly allowance, you're really off to the races.