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I tend to find claims like "I always feel its laughable when anyone thinks a business owner is not 100% of the time having the upper hand in any business transaction" typically based on a bunch of assumptions gleaned from anecdotal situations rather than a wide, solid set of data.
In my experience, there the truth falls somewhere between your two positions, a but closer to yours CIP. I know girls who got 100% of the tip and where the owner got the lion share.
Let's focus on the important here instead of getting in the weeds on the behind the scenes which we're somewhat privy to.
[QUOTE=IOnlyCip;4629001]Good case, not factual. All speculation!
I personally know 2 spa owners. Not going to far into it. Helped one of them through a very bad time with alot of legal issues. American woman in the business are a whole lot different than Asian / Korean woman. Asian spa owners only reward the top providers with special high percentage deals. It is pure stupidity to think the ladies are getting any part of the house fee. That's why it's a House Fee! Anywhere at anytime, not going to happen. On top of that, they always, always, always have a split set up on the tip. They never give 100 %. If I employ you as a provider, I give you my building and all the customers you can fuck, I am in fact your pimp and I want paid!
I always feel its laughable when anyone thinks a business owner is not 100% of the time having the upper hand in any business transaction.
I work in pharmaceutical sales and know that I am paid very well. I find the doctors, hospitals and other medical providers to build relationships with. I know that everyone over me, down the line gets a piece of everything I do. Hell, my regional manager makes over 500 k a year. He is my pimp! We are all hoes in one way or another!
I know the spa world all to well, inside and out. There is no one blowing smoke up my ass about how it works.[/QUOTE]
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Slow and Easy
[QUOTE=DarkSideOfMe;4629564]Friend, you bring up a few points to discuss in your post, lets see what becomes of them with the Pitts. Board? Second, is $500,000 a lot of money to you? Third, I see you have (98) post of experience in the" Massage world", little short on "street smarts" I think? And finally, Who the fuck cares how much they make? Hummmm.[/QUOTE]Slow down dark, I'm not trying to cause an atrial fibrillation! Just my view is a little different! Ohhh and yes 500 k is impressive to me, especially when I know the business better than my superior who calls me to solve his issues! LOL. No jealousy here, I'm in the home stretch of my career and planning to retire in 4 years.
My only rule I have in this hobby is, I won't begrudge any quality provider who takes great care of me of making a good Buck and I got no problem stiffing a shitty provider!
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Your stand
Brother D, glad you came in and made a stand on the subject at hand, maybe right, maybe wrong? If these subjects spark any new life in the Pitt. Board we have done our job. Right? If you get anything from us over this conversation, knowledge, that helps you negate, great! But we had a conversation to help, so it is in the interest of the board, to open eyes, minds, of our Brothers, and newbies to this "Massage world" we play, Newbies, low posters, inexperienced, like yourself? Thanks, for your input, look forward to seeing more of your post in the "cumming" year! Drk.
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Back on Carson st.
Well, I've stayed off Carson street for a month now and I have this desire to return, any new helpers I should know about? Any one been to Happy Feet?(fat heads side) Older woman to rock you, only there certain times of day, great flip, shower, roaming! Not looking for the troubles of last time visit on Carson, or to help any more shops, girls, owners, so its open hunting for me, its all about me! How about Shady Side, new girl also, Kim gone to her own shop by airport, info. On her? I need to visit her? No one on Penn 48x6, WTF, your missing the boat boys. I have a few Favs. To share! Let's go! Drk.
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Definitely not a newbie!
[QUOTE=DarkSideOfMe;4631777]Well, I've stayed off Carson street for a month now and I have this desire to return, any new helpers I should know about? Any one been to Happy Feet?(fat heads side) Older woman to rock you, only there certain times of day, great flip, shower, roaming! Not looking for the troubles of last time visit on Carson, or to help any more shops, girls, owners, so its open hunting for me, its all about me! How about Shady Side, new girl also, Kim gone to her own shop by airport, info. On her? I need to visit her? No one on Penn 48x6, WTF, your missing the boat boys. I have a few Favs. To share! Let's go! Drk.[/QUOTE]I've ran the spa circuit since the very early 90's. We had a great conversation on the Warren board of days past. Thru think and thin, there isn't a game or hobby like the one we've chosen! Belmont Ave in ytown was the hub in the day and some real fond memories. I see alot of guys that have joined in the last 10 years and probably couldn't fathom what they missed out on!
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Tried to get healthy
Well I went by healthy in cranberry.
Its nice and clean lots of not so discreet parking payed for an hour got a nice massage she kept doing a gentle touch of the boys. Thought the flip might be fun. But it was some light touching and a little rubbing till she offered me some oil for a self finish. I told her that's her tip money. Got a reluctant HJ. But went I popped it was a much needed attitude adjustment and I gave her a not intended facial. I can't really say its a YMMV or legit.
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Warning
Well I caved and tried out Zhang's in Shady Side.
Not worth it. No extras and she's maybe a 4/10. She's lazy. Uses feet and bows almost the entire time. Also, some of that bow work is painful. I have a decent tolerance for pain and had to ask her to calm down. She was grinding her elbow into my lower back bones. Not pleasant!
I tried to be flirty, but she wasn't having it. Don't waste your money. Not even a good massage.
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On the Rocks
I tried out both of the Body places in McKees Rocks that past few weeks. Visited both in the late afternoon and my experience at both were about the same. Both had an older woman working and seemed to be the only option. I got a decent massage at both, but neither were anything memorable. No extras offered on the flip, not even any flirting or hinting to anything. It was my first visit to both, so I don't know if that had anything to do with it. A second visit may change that, but there wasn't anything that would make me want to revisit. I would recommend passing both these places by.
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Questions
Just asking no harm, hate, no foul! I,we, have posted, talked about, written so many: Carson street, Penn, McKnight rd, Butler street, this and that, the list go's on, why would you go to a AMP that has proven, nothing to offer? Not even a good / half ass Massage! Any of these" Listed "places you can get a HJ. 95% of the time! ($60) tip. Half of that, you get more if your a real "player", (roaming, tiits out, little Kitty rub) So why? Please someone answer this! Do you have more money then brains? Do you want to explore your own AMP experience? I, we, are here to Conquer, not fall down on our dicks, waste money that we work hard for, give to these woman to send back to China, laugh at us when we walk out the door, insult our intelligence if you will," you handsome, strong big, best, more next time, cum back see me. " !WTF! Answers?
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Anyone Seen Marie?
Anyone have any experience with this post?
[URL]https://pittsburgh.rubratings.com/120998[/URL]
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Not I
[QUOTE=TrickFun;4634625]Anyone have any experience with this post?
[URL]https://pittsburgh.rubratings.com/120998[/URL][/QUOTE]Dark has LOL. I heard she is too much trouble to see and she has GPS.
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Questions 2
[QUOTE=DarkSideOfMe;4634191]Just asking no harm, hate, no foul! I,we, have posted, talked about, written so many: Carson street, Penn, McKnight rd, Butler street, this and that, the list go's on, why would you go to a AMP that has proven, nothing to offer? Not even a good / half ass Massage! Any of these" Listed "places you can get a HJ. 95% of the time! ($60) tip. Half of that, you get more if your a real "player", (roaming, tiits out, little Kitty rub) So why? Please someone answer this! Do you have more money then brains? Do you want to explore your own AMP experience? I, we, are here to Conquer, not fall down on our dicks, waste money that we work hard for, give to these woman to send back to China, laugh at us when we walk out the door, insult our intelligence if you will," you handsome, strong big, best, more next time, cum back see me. " !WTF! Answers?[/QUOTE]Since, I'm looking for answers to start this week off, here's one that really bothered me in last several weeks, when "On Carson street was written". I got many" Private messages"(12) from brothers on AMPs on Carson,(reg. , sen.) some info. Great, some good info, some not so good, some useless as fuck, I will be the first to admit, I, we, do tend to stretch the truth some times to impress our Bros. So many" popular Providers" in the AMP world will say, but DRK" I didn't do that, you, they, lied about sex"(no fuck, HJ, BJ,) no touch, outside only cloths, only give, hand "help", massages! Please DRK get that post off the board, afraid, Police, help me, please! Are we all lairs, Ass holes, stupid, brain dead, time after time, after time, same reports about these woman, and their services, and shops? Is it them, me, Us or just a big dream?
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Question
Afternoon everyone, was looking to see if anyone had any information on a possible massage parlor or person, named butler Cindy? I keep seeing ads on the skip the games site but haven't found any info on anyone that's actually seen said person.
I'm only asking publicly because I'm mildly concerned about calling a random number LOL.
Thanks for the help.
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Bamboo
New to your city and went to bamboo. They gave me a frequent flyer card LOL. That's a first.
Good massage and left very happy. Don't like the curtains, felt like people could see through crack LOL. Will repeat.
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Lisa
[QUOTE=DumbGuy65;4635857]New to your city and went to bamboo. They gave me a frequent flyer card LOL. That's a first.
Good massage and left very happy. Don't like the curtains, felt like people could see through crack LOL. Will repeat.[/QUOTE]This is a good place on Carson. Did you see Lisa, cute, older, big titts, make up, no problem showing them, roam, good hand job, if she likes you, all about the tip with her? LOL Boy friend now so service may drop off soon? LOL.