Streetwalker Reports

[QUOTE=Varoom;1235464]Pretty freaky deaky the life that these girls live. I guess I am getting soft and old, cause it got to me more than I might have thought. Maybe I will return someday and just buy her a sandwich, try to put some meat on those bones. Nah, probably NOT. Better leave the do-gooding to the ones that know what they are doing and wouldn't be influenced with an offer for desert. I better leave the SW's to the Pros who are calloused to the rigors of the street. I must have lost that ability somewhere because I used to frequent the streets many yrs ago. But obviously not for me these days.[/QUOTE]Sometime you can see past the sex and get to be friends with the girl. Working as a driver can make you want to help them out but nothing ever really helps until they get off whatever drug they are on. It"s always nice to see one get clean and retire because they git their life together.

[QUOTE=Varoom;1235464]Pretty freaky deaky the life that these girls live. I guess I am getting soft and old, cause it got to me more than I might have thought. Maybe I will return someday and just buy her a sandwich, try to put some meat on those bones. Nah, probably NOT. Better leave the do-gooding to the ones that know what they are doing and wouldn't be influenced with an offer for desert. I better leave the SW's to the Pros who are calloused to the rigors of the street. I must have lost that ability somewhere because I used to frequent the streets many yrs ago. But obviously not for me these days.[/QUOTE]

I have always urged mongers to treat dates well. SWs are obviously in dire straits and are to be regarded with caution, but also with compassion. We need to recognize their difficult life situation and not allow ourself into being a victim by being their mark. Long time mongers will have plenty of stories of what happens when you give SWs too much temptation...

SO... Mongers do NOT need to be "calloused to the rigors of the street." Perhaps you confuse calloused with being "wise to the ways of the street." SWs are human and should not be treated inhumainely. I have always maintained that if you treat them well you are more likely to be treated well.

Mongers need not be calloused to the situation of SWs. To be sensitive is not to be weak. I still maintain that the REAL mongering scene is on the street, and properly conducted (KNOW THE RULES), can benefit both monger and SW in the most economical manner.

I have learned more from Giani post than any other monger on here!

Just this morning I saw a WSW while I was at the drive thru at White Castle on the corner of Paddock and Vine about 11:30 am today.

We made eye contact and she walked away. Did not want to pick her up there because it is way to visible there. So I watched her as she walked away.

I thought I blew it when I saw her make eye contact with another car. She stopped and followed the car around the corner and she stopped again and turned around. He must have drove away. By this time I received my sandwich and drove to her. Made eye contact again and went around the corner. She got in and we drove and talked for a few. Ask for a peak before we talked about anything and she accommodated with a look at some small be Cup boobs. We agreed on. 2 and a drive to Harrison ave. She was under 25 and had a athletic build. Tall 5'9" or so Long legs and shaven SW scale; 8 on looks and body received a BBBJCIM She did gag and spat it out in a garbage bag I had in Car. I wanted more from her because of her body but no condoms at the time. Have Phone # and will share with seniors. Her name is Michele

[QUOTE=Numero;1234881]I was flying down State this evening just before dark. Generally it's an Appalachian street festival. When low and behold on my left crossing the street was an ebony beauty in her early twenties about 5'8", thin, with a nice rack talking on her cell. Seemed so strange. Just before my head snapped off of my neck. I noticed that she was wearing a black skin tight dress so short that I could see her black panties. Okay. Even more strange. Wanted to stop or at least go back but the redneck street urchins were eyeing me and licking their chops. I think they smelled a sweet car jacking. What a bummer. I would've loved some quality time with this one.[/QUOTE]That does sound interesting as I favor younger BSWs. I don't cruise State St. That often, maybe a total of 20 times or so over the past few months, but I don't recall ever seeing a BSW on that street. I might have to take a look over there in the next few days.

[QUOTE=Giani; 1235992]I have always urged mongers to treat dates well. SWs are obviously in dire straits and are to be regarded with caution, but also with compassion. We need to recognize their difficult life situation and not allow ourself into being a victim by being their mark. Long time mongers will have plenty of stories of what happens when you give SWs too much temptation.

SO. Mongers do NOT need to be "calloused to the rigors of the street." Perhaps you confuse calloused with being "wise to the ways of the street." SWs are human and should not be treated inhumainely. I have always maintained that if you treat them well you are more likely to be treated well.

Mongers need not be calloused to the situation of SWs. To be sensitive is not to be weak. I still maintain that the REAL mongering scene is on the street, and properly conducted (KNOW THE RULES) , can benefit both monger and SW in the most economical manner.[/QUOTE]Maybe semantics but I am in no way suggesting that "calloused to the situation of SW" means that one would treat them badly in any way. Quite the contrary.

It is more about being able to maintain a balance inside, and not be affected by their situation that they face each and every day. I find myself feeling too sorry for them, even though self induced about their biggest issues. Calloused to me means keeping yourself emotionally shielded from their situation. Maybe armoured or protected is a better word. Now if the gal gets in and she doesn't seem to be that nice of a person, then a different emotion to me entirely. Little concern at that point.

Not to jam up the SW boards with a non-report, but I did want to echo this statement, and add that I have learned that we (the monger, that is) *cannot* get them clean. It always requires a professional when they're in that state. I don't do the SW thing for precisely this reason (I would get suckered in every time) , but I have been associated with a few in the past in a capacity similar to what Elfram is discussing, and it does warm your heart a little bit when one of them "makes it".

[QUOTE=Elfram03;1235808]Sometime you can see past the sex and get to be friends with the girl. Working as a driver can make you want to help them out but nothing ever really helps until they get off whatever drug they are on. It"s always nice to see one get clean and retire because they git their life together.[/QUOTE]

I've been by a bunch. Even passed by at 2:30am this morning. Nothing but the local drunks.

Just came down Glenway near Gurley. 2 hot BSW's lurking. Had passengers in the car. Timing is everything.

[QUOTE=Bill Fanta;1236052]That does sound interesting as I favor younger BSWs. I don't cruise State St. That often, maybe a total of 20 times or so over the past few months, but I don't recall ever seeing a BSW on that street. I might have to take a look over there in the next few days.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elfram03;1235808]Sometime you can see past the sex and get to be friends with the girl. Working as a driver can make you want to help them out but nothing ever really helps until they get off whatever drug they are on. It"s always nice to see one get clean and retire because they git their life together.[/QUOTE]Sure you can get to be friends, but that doesn't mean you quit watching your six. I'm sure that's how that poor old guy went down in south Fairmount when Myra Hunter struck him in the head with a metal pole and he died right before she took his car and wallet. They were probably friends.

[url]http://www.fox19.com/story/13115973/woman-arrested-for-s-fairmount-murder?redirected=true[/url]

You can have compassion for these women, but that alone doesn't get them to stop their habits. Hell, they're in your car right now so they can go score immediately afterwards. Don't believe the ol "I'm saving up to get out of this area and go to rehab". I couldn't tell you how many times I've heard that. I know plenty of clean SW's that only smoke weed and they love doing this job. Sure beats Mcdonalds. They're good friends of mine, but I still watch my six and keep the valuables out of site (and metal poles). You never know when someone is in a tough situation and they need quick cash. Plus, I'm sure you don't want to really meet their REAL day to day friends. They will rob you for sure! Believe that. Fanta just got lucky once or twice LOL.

[QUOTE=Getnati;1236323]Fanta just got lucky once or twice LOL.[/QUOTE]Getnati is right; I have been in a few dicey situations in the past two years and managed to dodge a couple of bullets. The SW scene is inherently risky even when you follow all of the rules. Beyond the risks that most of us are well aware of, there are issues that arise from the nature of human relationships. Can we be friends with a SW? How much can one trust our SW "friend?" Can we have repeated physical intimacy with a female we find attractive without eventually developing an emotional attachment? It would seem that the safest course, if you are into the SW scene, is to keep all of your transactions with SWs "business" transactions. In other words, you are simply buying a service, no more, no less. And buying this service from someone who, because of her demons, habits, and possible mental problems, is likely to be unreliable and dishonest. If you can keep your interactions with SWs impersonal and avoid involvement in her life and her problems, ignoring all of her stories about her kids, her plans for going back to school, her efforts to kick her habits, etc, then you can surely reduce your risks. But as with most things in life, there is a trade off here. To the extent that you keep it all business and impersonal, you reduce any feelings of emotional intimacy or closeness and close your eyes to the fact that beyond the roles of "monger" and "SW," there are two complex human beings coming together in an attempt to satisfy a variety of needs and desires.

Over the last two years of being involved with this forum, I have been helped on numerous occasions by the kindness and advice of posters here. Prominent among those who have shared their knowledge and insights are Giani, Getnati, Mr. Boombastic, and Harpo2u. With their advice and a little common sense, I have tried to steer a course somewhere between a coldly impersonal approach on the one hand and getting lost in the murky depths of the lives of SWs on the other. And if I err in this, I want to err on the side of caution.

Stay safe out there, watch your six, and follow ALL the rules.

I got my first ever "look" from a SW today. I've read about the "look" on the forum many times but have never experienced it myself so I've only imagined exactly what it was. Now I know.

I had some business in the area of McMicken and McMillan this morning and decided to sight-see afterward, just out of curiosity. I had no intention of picking anyone up and I've never had the company of a SW before. Just wanted to see what the drive was like and if I would actually see anything.

I drove east down McMicken toward Vine and after a few minutes began to think this is a waste of gas. No one in sight for a long while. Not even civilians.

As I approached the old Imperial theater at McMicken and Mohawk I saw what occurred to me might be a BSW standing on the sidewalk about a block before the Imperial. She looked fairly attractive, not thin but not thick either. Had a brownish or maroon pattern knee length dress on and was holding a purse. My first thought was she might be waiting for a bus but she was not standing at a bus stop. As I slowed down from about 25 to about 15, to glance over, it happened.

She gave me the "look." There was no mistaking it.

It is hard to describe but her eyes looked right at mine and she smiled as if to say "Hi there." Her eyebrows raised just a little. Barely noticeable. She also moved ever so slightly toward the street. Maybe an inch or two. That was noteworthy because when I first spotted her from about a block away she was and remained completely motionless. Until the second we made eye contact.

I'm probably not describing it very well but it's one of those things about which they say "You know it when you see it."

Felt slightly tempted to turn around and go back. But I simply wasn't prepared. I know the rules but hadn't exactly been going over them in my mind. And the "watch your six" advice was pounding in my head. I had not been looking for signs of LEO since I wasn't planning on picking anyone up. So I drove on and back into the non-mongering world with a little bit of a sense of satisfaction that a SW had given me the "look."

I don't have any plans to pick one up. Really, it's outside of my comfort zone. Too big of a chicken. Plus, I just can't imagine looking for a parking spot, in broad daylight, and looking over my shoulder the whole time she is servicing Little Stimulus.

Just waiting for one of the regular SW guys to post saying he knows the SW I'm referring to and that she is actually a he. Or is LEO. Now, wouldn't that be funny?

[QUOTE=Stimulus;1236711]Just waiting for one of the regular SW guys to post saying he knows the SW I'm referring to and that she is actually a he. Or is LEO. Now, wouldn't that be funny?[/QUOTE]It is my understanding, and observations have supported that understanding, that the vast majority of BSW in that area during the day tend to be a he, especially is they are a little more filled out and not super skinny, and double especially if they are dressed in short shorts, hot pants, or other "traditional" streetwalker gear. I actually drove my wife through that area a few times so that she could see a real live Tranny-Ho.

This doesn't always hold true. I was coming up elm one day and had a BSW flash her breasts at me, and they were natural, so I'm confident that she was a she. And the lighter skinned BSW's tend to be actual girls too. For some reason, all the TV's that I've seen have been relatively dark skinned.

[QUOTE=Cintixtreme;1236720]I actually drove my wife through that area a few times so that she could see a real live Tranny-Ho.[/QUOTE]Did Mommy want to know how Daddy knows. Where the Tranny Ho's hang out?

Man, I wouldn't go near that one. Or how about when you drive by, and a few of the girls hollared out your name? LOL.

Or, how about this one. Hun, let me show you some real live Ho's. Up close and personal. There is Becca, and Wilma and Suzi is on the far corner and. Well, maybe not.

[QUOTE=Stimulus; 1236711]I got my first ever "look" from a SW today. I've read about the "look" on the forum many times but have never experienced it myself so I've only imagined exactly what it was. Now I know.

I had some business in the area of McMicken and McMillan this morning and decided to sight-see afterward, just out of curiosity. I had no intention of picking anyone up and I've never had the company of a SW before. Just wanted to see what the drive was like and if I would actually see anything.

I drove east down McMicken toward Vine and after a few minutes began to think this is a waste of gas. No one in sight for a long while. Not even civilians.

As I approached the old Imperial theater at McMicken and Mohawk I saw what occurred to me might be a BSW standing on the sidewalk about a block before the Imperial. She looked fairly attractive, not thin but not thick either. Had a brownish or maroon pattern knee length dress on and was holding a purse. My first thought was she might be waiting for a bus but she was not standing at a bus stop. As I slowed down from about 25 to about 15, to glance over, it happened.

She gave me the "look." There was no mistaking it.

It is hard to describe but her eyes looked right at mine and she smiled as if to say "Hi there." Her eyebrows raised just a little. Barely noticeable. She also moved ever so slightly toward the street. Maybe an inch or two. That was noteworthy because when I first spotted her from about a block away she was and remained completely motionless. Until the second we made eye contact.

I'm probably not describing it very well but it's one of those things about which they say "You know it when you see it."

Felt slightly tempted to turn around and go back. But I simply wasn't prepared. I know the rules but hadn't exactly been going over them in my mind. And the "watch your six" advice was pounding in my head. I had not been looking for signs of LEO since I wasn't planning on picking anyone up. So I drove on and back into the non-mongering world with a little bit of a sense of satisfaction that a SW had given me the "look."

I don't have any plans to pick one up. Really, it's outside of my comfort zone. Too big of a chicken. Plus, I just can't imagine looking for a parking spot, in broad daylight, and looking over my shoulder the whole time she is servicing Little Stimulus.

Just waiting for one of the regular SW guys to post saying he knows the SW I'm referring to and that she is actually a he. Or is LEO. Now, wouldn't that be funny?[/QUOTE]Very good description of "the look." As you say, once you experience it there is little room for doubt. That could have been a tranny on McM as a few do frequent the area you mention. Very unlike to have been LE at that spot though I guess you can't absolutely rule it out. It could have been Denise or Lehia or several others I have "met," or it could have been a part-timer.

I am not back in the game although I am all better, but I was driving through OTR on the way to Findley Market and saw some action. On the way down McM (right before the theater) , I saw a familiar brunette SW with the same black guy I always see her with along with a cute little blonde and a not so attractive brunette. Got the eye from the women and the usual stare down from the guy, but I had veggies to buy so no big deal. On the way back about 45 minutes later, I saw a white Chevy Tahoe by the theater with the doors open. I didn't see the black guy, but I did see a white guy in a black ski mask talking on a radio. The familiar brunette was in cuffs being frisked by the other brunette and the blond next to her also on the radio. Don't know what else was going on, but just wanted to let everyone know they might want to avoid the area.

Wow. Important and very dramatic post. I saw a "crowd" at the Imperial this past week, including several known SWs. That was the same time as the BSW (decoy?) at Ravine and McM which I posted about.

Could you clear up something? We usually think that SWs will steer clear of decoys, and even warn mongers about their presence. (Mongers: reward SWs for this critical info.) It is not clear from your post how close the SWs were to the decoy. We presume they were well separated?

Several lessons: More than one decoys (blonde and brunette) may work together (nothing new). "Attractive" needs to be assessed: does it fit with the scene, or is it TGTBT? And would an SW really work in close proximity to a sting?

We already know that the length of McM should be cruised with the greatest of caution. Still, it is a rich resource. This is the reason I did not test the remarkable BSW about which I posted.

To ALL forum readers: you have benefitted from DIMY's post (I presume). PLEASE: contribute your observations. Police are increasingly using SUVs for undercover. (I believe I saw two on 275 near Coney Island yesterday.) And now they are using ski masks! LE can be SO dramatic.

Caution is the watchword. Trust the instincts from your big head. Let it go if you suspect a problem, or if the pickup cannot be made in a less obvious place.

[QUOTE=Doingitmyway;1237409]I am not back in the game although I am all better, but I was driving through OTR on the way to Findley Market and saw some action. On the way down McM (right before the theater) , I saw a familiar brunette SW with the same black guy I always see her with along with a cute little blonde and a not so attractive brunette. Got the eye from the women and the usual stare down from the guy, but I had veggies to buy so no big deal. On the way back about 45 minutes later, I saw a white Chevy Tahoe by the theater with the doors open. I didn't see the black guy, but I did see a white guy in a black ski mask talking on a radio. The familiar brunette was in cuffs being frisked by the other brunette and the blond next to her also on the radio. Don't know what else was going on, but just wanted to let everyone know they might want to avoid the area.[/QUOTE]