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[QUOTE=Joseph1955;5917007]If I pay their requested rate AND I pay their requested upgrade fee for additional service, then the upgrade fee IS the tip as far as I'm concerned.[/QUOTE]That's my approach too. If their rate is reasonable to me I'm happy to pay it. Haggling seems disrespectful, cheap, and petty. It hasn't happened often, but I've tipped a few times when it seems they under-charged. For instance, one time a provider charged me only $120 for Greek BBFS CIA. She wasn't the best looker, but it was still a very good experience, so I tipped her $60. I don't know why she didn't ask for more. In my experience a decent provider who offers that service can get at least $180 which seems more than fair to me.
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Texted her a few times but she didn't get ahold of me till the next day of course I was still down her to meet her so I asked her if she was GFE she said yes and I also asked if I could make a outfit request and she said yes so I was stoked to see her until that is when I asked if I could use the shower there before hand and she said that the showers weren't a thing there they were out of use. , and I thought that was kind of weird considering she's a working girl and she should need to shower right and who would object to a client wanting to clean up before hand right?! So I just said fuck it I'll try her again later when a shower is available, LOL but if anyone has info or knows if she does BBFS I would appreciate some info.
Hypothetically speaking: off topic non Bareback issue btw
You have seen the same provider for 5 plus years. It's a great connection in all ways. You never communicate with her via websites because you have direct lines of communication with her which keeps you off websites where she might have ads. She's low volume and does not post ads on any site you visit. You regularly dm with her off on a few times a month between visits. She changes her rates But never mentions it. You only know because you happened to see it on her site that you never visit since you have direct lines of contact with her.
Now you have arranged to see her and she has not made mention of her new price change. You even dm'd with her before arranging the visit thinking she might share with you her new rate but she makes no mention. You set up a visit What do you do?
A). Assume she has grandfathered you at the old rate plus normal tipping?
B) Pay the new rate even though she never mentions it to you during dm's and when arranging a new visit?
C) Other?
[QUOTE=DeezNutz17;5917241]Hypothetically speaking: off topic non Bareback issue btw
You have seen the same provider for 5 plus years. It's a great connection in all ways. You never communicate with her via websites because you have direct lines of communication with her which keeps you off websites where she might have ads. She's low volume and does not post ads on any site you visit. You regularly dm with her off on a few times a month between visits. She changes her rates But never mentions it. You only know because you happened to see it on her site that you never visit since you have direct lines of contact with her.
Now you have arranged to see her and she has not made mention of her new price change. You even dm'd with her before arranging the visit thinking she might share with you her new rate but she makes no mention. You set up a visit What do you do?
A). Assume she has grandfathered you at the old rate plus normal tipping?
B) Pay the new rate even though she never mentions it to you during dm's and when arranging a new visit?
C) Other?[/QUOTE]After five years of faithfully paying her rate, with no discussion about increases or any other drama, I'd say you're grandfathered at the old rate.
[QUOTE=KitWalker1967;5917519]After five years of faithfully paying her rate, with no discussion about increases or any other drama, I'd say you're grandfathered at the old rate.[/QUOTE]I think that is true, unless, they still post adds.
Several girls I have seen over the years on the regular have posted new rates. I usually just text them or they text me.
I don't want to disrespect them so I will pay the increase. Although I hate too.
Pussy is so over priced these days.
[QUOTE=DeezNutz17;5917241]Hypothetically speaking: off topic non Bareback issue btw
You have seen the same provider for 5 plus years. It's a great connection in all ways. You never communicate with her via websites because you have direct lines of communication with her which keeps you off websites where she might have ads. She's low volume and does not post ads on any site you visit. You regularly dm with her off on a few times a month between visits. She changes her rates But never mentions it. You only know because you happened to see it on her site that you never visit since you have direct lines of contact with her.
Now you have arranged to see her and she has not made mention of her new price change. You even dm'd with her before arranging the visit thinking she might share with you her new rate but she makes no mention. You set up a visit What do you do?
A). Assume she has grandfathered you at the old rate plus normal tipping?
B) Pay the new rate even though she never mentions it to you during dm's and when arranging a new visit?
C) Other?[/QUOTE]I can relate to the relationship you describe. One girl that I've seen three or four times a month for the past 14 years, is one that has evolved from hh incall covered to now no clock watching uncovered. And the donation rate began at $/ hh and didn't change until 2019. And the rate changed not because she said something but rather because I felt I need to give her more. So now I give her $. 6 for hh BBFS cip. And I'm thinking about upping that amount. We'll see what happens.
[QUOTE=DeezNutz17;5917241]Hypothetically speaking: off topic non Bareback issue btw
You have seen the same provider for 5 plus years. It's a great connection in all ways. You never communicate with her via websites because you have direct lines of communication with her which keeps you off websites where she might have ads. She's low volume and does not post ads on any site you visit. You regularly dm with her off on a few times a month between visits. She changes her rates But never mentions it. You only know because you happened to see it on her site that you never visit since you have direct lines of contact with her.
Now you have arranged to see her and she has not made mention of her new price change. You even dm'd with her before arranging the visit thinking she might share with you her new rate but she makes no mention. You set up a visit What do you do?[/QUOTE]I typically assume I'm grandfathered in. After an extra year, I might bump my donation without discussion. Did this with a few girls before and they appreciate the increase. All of them thanked me via text later. We keep in touch when they "retire" and I'm one of the earliest to know they are back in the game. A couple would indulge me pounding their rear doors once in a while even though they don't like it back there. Mutual give and take respect goes a long way.
[QUOTE=DeezNutz17;5917241]Hypothetically speaking: off topic non Bareback issue btw
You have seen the same provider for 5 plus years. It's a great connection in all ways. You never communicate with her via websites because you have direct lines of communication with her which keeps you off websites where she might have ads. She's low volume and does not post ads on any site you visit. You regularly dm with her off on a few times a month between visits. She changes her rates But never mentions it. You only know because you happened to see it on her site that you never visit since you have direct lines of contact with her.
Now you have arranged to see her and she has not made mention of her new price change. You even dm'd with her before arranging the visit thinking she might share with you her new rate but she makes no mention. You set up a visit What do you do?
A). Assume she has grandfathered you at the old rate plus normal tipping?
B) Pay the new rate even though she never mentions it to you during dm's and when arranging a new visit?
C) Other?[/QUOTE]A, absolutely. Don't understand paying more when she hasn't asked, that makes zero sense and undermines our community as a whole.
Raise cocks not rates gentlemen.
[QUOTE=BlackMarketBb;5917860]A, absolutely. Don't understand paying more when she hasn't asked, that makes zero sense and undermines our community as a whole.
Raise cocks not rates gentlemen.[/QUOTE]I have no problem taking one for the team LOL.
[QUOTE=BlackMarketBb;5917860]A, absolutely. Don't understand paying more when she hasn't asked, that makes zero sense and undermines our community as a whole.
Raise cocks not rates gentlemen.[/QUOTE]Yes, option A. As it is, you have been a steady client of hers for so long, providing a steady income stream. She'd be wise to keep things as they are, and you will, most likely, continue to see her, and again thus providing a steady source of income for her.
[QUOTE=DeezNutz17;5917241]Hypothetically speaking: off topic non Bareback issue btw
You have seen the same provider for 5 plus years. It's a great connection in all ways. You never communicate with her via websites because you have direct lines of communication with her which keeps you off websites where she might have ads. She's low volume and does not post ads on any site you visit. You regularly dm with her off on a few times a month between visits. She changes her rates But never mentions it. You only know because you happened to see it on her site that you never visit since you have direct lines of contact with her.
Now you have arranged to see her and she has not made mention of her new price change. You even dm'd with her before arranging the visit thinking she might share with you her new rate but she makes no mention. You set up a visit What do you do?
A). Assume she has grandfathered you at the old rate plus normal tipping?
B) Pay the new rate even though she never mentions it to you during dm's and when arranging a new visit?
C) Other?[/QUOTE]I've been seeing a former provider for the past 6 years UTR. Just this last month I bumped up how much I'm paying her. Inflation and all. It was my choice. She's hot as fuck, lets me make videos, and we always have mutual orgasms, cip. The sex is so damn good. I wanted to reward her. It has been 6 years after all.
But, in general, I'd say A. This was an exception.
[QUOTE=BbFunTimes;5917783]I can relate to the relationship you describe. One girl that I've seen three or four times a month for the past 14 years, is one that has evolved from hh incall covered to now no clock watching uncovered. And the donation rate began at $/ hh and didn't change until 2019. And the rate changed not because she said something but rather because I felt I need to give her more. So now I give her $. 6 for hh BBFS cip. And I'm thinking about upping that amount. We'll see what happens.[/QUOTE]Three of four times per month for 14 years? Damn, just get married.
I'm just fucking with you. I like variety too much, I could never do that.
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Texted her a few times but she didn't get ahold of me till the next day of course I was still down her to meet her so I asked her if she was GFE she said yes and I also asked if I could make a outfit request and she said yes so I was stoked to see her until that is when I asked if I could use the shower there before hand and she said that the showers weren't a thing there they were out of use. , and I thought that was kind of weird considering she's a working girl and she should need to shower right and who would object to a client wanting to clean up before hand right?! So I just said fuck it I'll try her again later when a shower is available, LOL but if anyone has info or knows if she does BBFS I would appreciate some info.[/QUOTE]Willow Rae. Been mentioned here before.
[QUOTE=DeezNutz17;5917241]Hypothetically speaking: off topic non Bareback issue btw
You have seen the same provider for 5 plus years. It's a great connection in all ways. You never communicate with her via websites because you have direct lines of communication with her which keeps you off websites where she might have ads. She's low volume and does not post ads on any site you visit. You regularly dm with her off on a few times a month between visits. She changes her rates But never mentions it. You only know because you happened to see it on her site that you never visit since you have direct lines of contact with her.
Now you have arranged to see her and she has not made mention of her new price change. You even dm'd with her before arranging the visit thinking she might share with you her new rate but she makes no mention. You set up a visit What do you do?[/QUOTE]Based on my experience, A. But if you feel charitable you can pay her new rates, she will be very happy. But then she'd expect you to pay her new rate every time after that. So if you want to keep your old rates just don't mention it and pay the old ones.