Thank you, thank you very much
[QUOTE=Noobalicious;3682152]Have you gone too far? That's a tough call. . .
I bet the girls you photograph are pleasantly surprised with the end result, assuming you catch up with them to show them the final product. I would expect that once they know how well they look in the end, word could get around to the other girls making either repeat photo sessions or new models (or new pairings) easier to set up. I have no doubt this forms a part of your street cred that you've developed over time with these ladies.
Does it make them harder to spot for other mongers? Yeah, probably. But after watching your work over time I haven't gotten the sense that you're making a documentary, or just trying to show "gritty reality" (though that came up at least a few times with $10-spot photo locations). Instead, I have the impression you have an overall positive attitude towards women in general, and because of that you want to show these girls in the best possible light to highlight their strengths. I know I have a regular who probably looks somewhat rough on the street, but cleans up incredibly well and my mind doesn't let me see the few flaws here & there.
What's more, great makeup, outfits, locations, and lighting all cater to your desire to make excellent photographs. Unless you have a degradation fetish to feed (by way of those "raw reality" type shoots), it's natural for you to compare your work to other photographers who take advantage of every aspect of the image to create great-looking work. So I see where there's a personal need you're fulfilling by helping your models look as good as they possibly can. Besides, no way someone would keep up the body of work you have for over 10 years without feeding their own need with it somehow.
I don't live in Philly, but I'm probably within range to make a visit sometime. But I'm not a guy you'd be helping find a particular girl on a particular stroll. Even in my own town, with other mongers who've posted pics of girls, the cheap & dirty ones taken with a cell phone are most useful for putting a name to a face. But they don't really help you find the girl.
The guy tells you where he saw her, maybe what time of day or what she was wearing. But clothes change, times the girl needs to be out to get her meds changes, maybe her stroll changes as her living situation moves around. Nothing seems to help finding the girl on the street except being out on the street. (Maybe 2 months ago, I told guys my exact location & time of day when I saw at least 15 different girls within a 3-4 block stretch. Girls were coming out of the woodwork! And others kept posting how that same stretch was dead, before, during, and after the day I was out there. Which just proves you gotta be on the street to find the girls on the street.)
My opinion is the most valuable photos for identifying a girl on the street are the ones that show which girls to avoid at all costs!
I think your goals with your photos, and perhaps your own personal needs from them, are best served with the way you're doing the pics now. Let another monger step up to get the quick & dirty street version for drive-by I'd. You have plenty of fans (whether you know it or not) who appreciate the way you elevate these ladies in your work.[/QUOTE]Finally, out of the darkness an understanding voice . It's not just about me or the girl, it's not just about the pictures - it's a process.
I hope you don't mind if I repost portions of you reply from time to time?
CookyJar.
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Who's going to do the laundry?
[QUOTE=Noobalicious;3682152]Have you gone too far? That's a tough call. . .
I bet the girls you photograph are pleasantly surprised with the end result, assuming you catch up with them to show them the final product. I would expect that once they know how well they look in the end, word could get around to the other girls making either repeat photo sessions or new models (or new pairings) easier to set up. I have no doubt this forms a part of your street cred that you've developed over time with these ladies.[/QUOTE]
Yes, most of them do get to see their pictures. Some manage to find the site themselves, they are not dummies. Others are shown the site by a friend or regular. And yes, when I can, I will show them their pictures. I usually pick out the best, few girls like to see nudes - that's a man thing.
Plus, on numerous occasions the girls will go out of their way to say how much fun they had. They are talking about the photo session, where they got the opportunity to play act and be something more than a street worker. It was obvious to me that Katie, from the way she knew her away around the outfit she was using for dress-up, was reliving better times. It's a one piece and not easy to figure out. She was very eager, for reasons of her own, to pose and offer suggestions. Sure it is mostly about the money and her needs, but that aside I could tell she was having fun. It's common sense, considering what most girl's day is like, waiting on a corner, in the cold for the opportunity to suck off some stranger in a car, for $20.
Trust me, they do show their appreciation.
And! The more I do, the more I have to do. When she stepped out of the bathroom, wearing that outfit, I barely recognized her. Even though I've photographed her 7,8 or maybe ten time before, I barely recognized her. And! The outfit she is wearing is the same worn by Vicki. We could debate for hours who looked best wearing it. However, there is no debating who took it home and hand washed it in a mild dish detergent. After all, the last thing I want is for a girl to get a hint of the previous wearer. So now I'm doing their f'ing laundry!
CookyJar.
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Stacey – Still a reliable Provider
[QUOTE=Tussel;3660536]I was at the stop light between the Womens Center and the church across from Broadway lounge. I looked at this BSW with a hoodie and it was Stacey. She looks a lot better and she got her weight back up. I told her I was I glad to see her. I didn't want to do anything tonight with her but she gave me her number. She said she stays in a lot now. I told her I would call her.[/QUOTE]Trust me, finding Stacey wasn't easy. After asking around and leaving messages for the last month or so, I was assured that she was still in the area. Word on the street was that, during this cold season she was staying with an old boyfriend and only coming to Broadway occasionally. I ended up, with the help of a friend of hers, tracking her down staying at a house a few blocks off Broadway.
It is funny how little credit some guys give these girls. They actually manage to live and thrive through situations that would kill most of us. How they manage to support their habits and keep warm during the cold winter months is a mystery to me. Keep in mind that the good ones, while homeless, somehow manage to eat and maintain their hygienic needs.
During the ride to Philadelphia, Stacey and I had plenty of time to talk. Like a lot of girl who find themselves working Broadway and Kensington Avenue, Stacey is no dummy. During our conversation, Stacey said something about herself that I could never say to or about her. I am not going to repeat it here. While it was not a real provocative statement, it certainly took me by surprise. Change happens. Change happens to everyone and everything. Why should Stacey be any different?
If you’ve never dated Stacey, there will be nothing to notice. Only her old friends will sense the difference.
No! She is not the same girl who I first meant a few summers ago. She has grown and the streets have taken their toll. However! In my humble opinion she is still one of the best Black providers on either side of the river.
CookyJar.
Impressed with Stacey's look
[QUOTE=CookyJar;3723171]Trust me, finding Stacey wasn't easy. After asking around and leaving messages for the last month or so, I was assured that she was still in the area. Word on the street was that, during this cold season she was staying with an old boyfriend and only coming to Broadway occasionally. I ended up, with the help of a friend of hers, tracking her down staying at a house a few blocks off Broadway.
It is funny how little credit some guys give these girls. They actually manage to live and thrive through situations that would kill most of us. How they manage to support their habits and keep warm during the cold winter months is a mystery to me. Keep in mind that the good ones, while homeless, somehow manage to eat and maintain their hygienic needs.
During the ride to Philadelphia, Stacey and I had plenty of time to talk. Like a lot of girl who find themselves working Broadway and Kensington Avenue, Stacey is no dummy. During our conversation, Stacey said something about herself that I could never say to or about her. I am not going to repeat it here. While it was not a real provocative statement, it certainly took me by surprise. Change happens. Change happens to everyone and everything. Why should Stacey be any different?
If youve never dated Stacey, there will be nothing to notice. Only her old friends will sense the difference.
No! She is not the same girl who I first meant a few summers ago. She has grown and the streets have taken their toll. However! In my humble opinion she is still one of the best Black providers on either side of the river.
CookyJar.[/QUOTE]Almost look like model-material!
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Stacey – A ATF Camden Provider
[QUOTE=Bond007;3657793]Ran into Taylor today visiting from Camden, if you see her treat her well hopefully she will stay here for a wile she's just the kind of talent the ave needs.[/QUOTE]Stacey is a ATF provider of mine. While she mainly works the streets of Camden that should not deter any local Philadelphia monger from enjoying her company.
I am a longtime advocate of the Camden, Broadway / Philadelphia Kensington Avenue connection. On this occasion the pickup took place in Camden, but the date took place in Philadelphia. Unfortunately my intention to couple up Stacey with a Philadelphia spinner fell though. Much to her credit, Stacey made the trip worthwhile and memorable. Anyone wanting to know more about Stacey need only checkout the South Jersey, General forum.
Other than the obvious connect between NJ and Philly, I am posting these pictures and posing a question.
Which do you prefer, the completely nude or partially nude photograph. Recently I have been providing my models with sexually seductive outfits. The girls seem to love it. They are eager to play dress-up and get into posing. For my part, while I totally enjoy the process, I usually find myself taking far more clothed pictures than nude pictures.
For example, Stacey looks great fully clothed, her shapely legs and ass are a plus. On the other hand, Vanessa had a body that begged to be totally nude. I often regret not taking more of one (clothed) or the other (fully nude).
Any idea, any opinions and any suggestions?
CookyJar.
RE: Impressed with Stacey's look
[QUOTE=Rub101;3724502]Almost look like model-material![/QUOTE]I agree! Stacey has the look and the personality.
CookyJar.
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Smiley – Don't let the Smile fool you, she is a very bad girl and an excellent date.
[QUOTE=Rizob;3731783]Sorry I spelled her name wrong. I know Recycle Mike had some issues with her in the past but she was nothing but great on my date with her. If you hang out with these girls long enough they all will end up flaking out on you at some point. It's the nature of the beast.[/QUOTE]Thanks for clearing up things for me.
This is Smiley. She currently works Camden's Broadway. However, according to her she was recently in Philadelphia for a couple of weeks. Although a good friend of mine had insured me that she was not Sarah Smiles, I was thinking that there may have been some mistake made.
My search for the elusive Sarah Smiles continues. But! Do not get me wrong, Smiley was an excellent date and one that I would highly recommend.
CookyJar.
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Smiley – Accommodating to a fault
At first I thought Smiley was going to be a BBW or at the very least a PAWG. She was wearing a ton of clothing. As you can see, she is neither. She is not a BBW or a PAWG. When it comes to appearance, Smiley is just your normal cute ass.
Smiley was accommodating to a fault, she did everything I asked with a smile. She did everything I asked without question, no hesitation and with gusto. If I said, "Humm! That felt good, do it again," she'd do it again and kept on doing it until I gave her directions to do otherwise. If I said, "Lick there," she would lick there until I change and said, "Now move under there, or over there, kiss me there, suck it baby and she would do whatever the new thing was until I was ready to move on.
Smiley is a good natured submissive, with a nice body. I was able to turn her every which-a-way, but off. At the point when a lot of girls beg to come up for air, Smiley kept on sucking. She is like that Ever-Ready bunny, she just keeps on cumming.
In My Humble Opinion, Smiley is an exceptional provider. She is easily one of my go to girls, if I can find her again.
CookyJar.