[QUOTE=HalliknWolk;3334202]In some cultures some refer to a well built woman as a stallion.[/QUOTE]Yeah. A culture that's too fucking stupid to know a stallion is an uncastrated male horse.
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[QUOTE=HalliknWolk;3334202]In some cultures some refer to a well built woman as a stallion.[/QUOTE]Yeah. A culture that's too fucking stupid to know a stallion is an uncastrated male horse.
[QUOTE=AtlHobbyist67;3334043]I've noticed a few BP posts where they advertise as a Stallion -- A Stallion is a male horse. Is this code for TV or are they just pure idiots?[/QUOTE]Idiots.
Not everyone has the kind of privileged upbringing to understand that the words they're looking for are "mare" (for the MILF types) and "filly" (for the young spinners).
O.
[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;3334313]Yeah. A culture that's too fucking stupid to know a stallion is an uncastrated male horse.[/QUOTE]It's called slang for a reason.
[QUOTE=NiteMan2020;3298668]Happy to share the love!
We have been getting "ripped off"on our essential medications!
This has made ED drugs affordable for all of us.[/QUOTE]I have had a number of PMs regarding generic versus branded Cialis, asking if you get the generic is at the same?
Absolutely. You can get generic Cialis. Identical drug / effectiveness in every way.
I switched to the generic. Cannot tell the difference! If anything I actually think it works better. However, I am sure that is all in my head (haha).
After using Cialis for 3 months I switched to the generic, and have been happily using it for the last 6 months and there is absolutely no difference.
The component of Cialis that causes it to work is called Tadalafil.
The generic uses the identical component Tadalafil.
** Just make sure you are purchasing from a reputable / registered pharmacy (you will need a prescription from your doctor) - so you get the real thing (Tadalafil 20 mg) . This is the most important issue. You have to get "real" generic Tadalafil.
Please see my previous posts regarding pricing and which pharmacies to use.
Hopefully this helps is there is a huge difference in price between USA Cialis and generic Cialis from a CIPA certified Canadian pharmacy.
[QUOTE=NiteMan2020;3335487]I have had a number of PMs regarding generic versus branded Cialis, asking if you get the generic is at the same?
Absolutely. You can get generic Cialis. Identical drug / effectiveness in every way.
I switched to the generic. Cannot tell the difference! If anything I actually think it works better. However, I am sure that is all in my head (haha).
After using Cialis for 3 months I switched to the generic, and have been happily using it for the last 6 months and there is absolutely no difference.
The component of Cialis that causes it to work is called Tadalafil.
The generic uses the identical component Tadalafil.
** Just make sure you are purchasing from a reputable / registered pharmacy (you will need a prescription from your doctor) - so you get the real thing (Tadalafil 20 mg) . This is the most important issue. You have to get "real" generic Tadalafil.
Please see my previous posts regarding pricing and which pharmacies to use.
Hopefully this helps is there is a huge difference in price between USA Cialis and generic Cialis from a CIPA certified Canadian pharmacy.[/QUOTE]So for us younger-ish whipper-snappers without even so much as a regular GP: any thoughts on the lowest-friction route to get a prescription for tadalafil?
[QUOTE=NiteMan2020;3335487]I have had a number of PMs regarding generic versus branded Cialis, asking if you get the generic is at the same?
Absolutely. You can get generic Cialis. Identical drug / effectiveness in every way.
I switched to the generic. Cannot tell the difference! If anything I actually think it works better. However, I am sure that is all in my head (haha).
After using Cialis for 3 months I switched to the generic, and have been happily using it for the last 6 months and there is absolutely no difference.
The component of Cialis that causes it to work is called Tadalafil.
The generic uses the identical component Tadalafil.
** Just make sure you are purchasing from a reputable / registered pharmacy (you will need a prescription from your doctor) - so you get the real thing (Tadalafil 20 mg) . This is the most important issue. You have to get "real" generic Tadalafil.
Please see my previous posts regarding pricing and which pharmacies to use.
Hopefully this helps is there is a huge difference in price between USA Cialis and generic Cialis from a CIPA certified Canadian pharmacy.[/QUOTE]I've had them prescribed but they are ridiculous expensive, my insurance doesn't cover it. But anyways, I got a guy that ships from US to me, but I think it's stuff manufactured in India, I looked it up. They work exactly the same, I got 30 for 70 last time. If you can share a utr that checks out I can give info on this.
[QUOTE=JWSouth;3335737]So for us younger-ish whipper-snappers without even so much as a regular GP: any thoughts on the lowest-friction route to get a prescription for tadalafil?[/QUOTE]I invested a reasonable amount of time and money evaluating different options. (Including purchasing ED drugs when I was travelling overseas).
The only way to get a quality / guaranteed product is with a prescription. Any other way you are most likely getting a fake product that will not work.
The cost of one visit to the GP / FP is marginal compared to the cost of these drugs.
I will update with more details again in my next post.
[QUOTE=Driatic;3336816]I've had them prescribed but they are ridiculous expensive, my insurance doesn't cover it. But anyways, I got a guy that ships from US to me, but I think it's stuff manufactured in India, I looked it up. They work exactly the same, I got 30 for 70 last time. If you can share a utr that checks out I can give info on this.[/QUOTE]I am republishing these details because I've had a number of follow-up questions.
If you follow the steps below. It will cost about $0.60 for each tablet (yes that's right .60 cents) versus about $50/ tablet in the US.
This will certainly offset any added expense incurred by going to your family practitioner to get a prescription.
More importantly: you are getting the real deal (a real generic)- same as the brand name.
Any other approach will end up with tablets that you have no idea what is actually is in it (dangerous to your health).
I would only use a CIPA Canadian certified pharmacy.
[URL]https://www.canadadrugstop.com[/URL]
1) you will need a prescription from your doctor (ask your doctor to print it out and give it to you. Then you will mail to them with payment.
2) after you've made your 1st payment they can do payments directly from your check account (on your approval).
3) make sure you do a web search 1st. And they will price match (can literally halve the price from their already very low price *important step*.
4) I started with Cialis (with them) - then switched to the generic. Impossible to tell the difference. And I'm paying $52 (including $9.99 for delivery) for 88 tablets (20 mg). As opposed to $50 for one tablet from my local pharmacy.
Good luck. It has worked incredibly well for me. (Once you get set up).
So I have seen a couple of chicks who were restless and shivering while I was doing them. One was talking too much and other was very quiet. From your experience could they have been on something? They didn't look like they would snort or smoke some shit. I have never seen anyone in person who was under influence, so I don't know how they act.
[QUOTE=Grizzly383;3341312]So I have seen a couple of chicks who were restless and shivering while I was doing them. One was talking too much and other was very quiet. From your experience could they have been on something? They didn't look like they would snort or smoke some shit. I have never seen anyone in person who was under influence, so I don't know how they act.[/QUOTE]Possibly. From what you're describing maybe xanax or muscle relaxers.
[QUOTE=Grizzly383;3341312]So I have seen a couple of chicks who were restless and shivering while I was doing them. One was talking too much and other was very quiet. From your experience could they have been on something? They didn't look like they would snort or smoke some shit. I have never seen anyone in person who was under influence, so I don't know how they act.[/QUOTE]Sounds like Codeine to me. Maybe they got a hold of some Tylenol three. But who knows anymore. I haven't touched a drug in almost 30 years, so there could be something new (to me) out there that does the same thing.
[QUOTE=NiteMan2020;3298668]Happy to share the love!
We have been getting "ripped off"on our essential medications!
This has made ED drugs affordable for all of us.[/QUOTE]In the vein of us guys that prefer the Viagra feel, I have gotten a script from my Doctor for generic Viagra effective last year (April, 2016).
Evidently this is a reasonably recent offering and you need to get your doctor to prescribe the generic Sildenafil. I had to take the script to a local pharmacy as CVS and Walgreens did not have it.
I get a physical every 6 months (insurance pays so why not). My Doctor is a bit religious and quite the judgmental fellow, but fuck him, the Bear needs the pill. He will write the script for (30) pills (20 mg per my request) and cost is around $50 for the 30 pills. He gives me 2 refills but I bumped up last year for more scripts.
There are ways out there, we just need to explore the optioins and not be cowered by the judgmental folks in the health care system. (Ok, otherwise he is a detailed, fine doctor. But he does look over his glasses at me during the hard-on pill discussion.).
Still Lost,
Lostbear.
[QUOTE=Grizzly383;3341312]So I have seen a couple of chicks who were restless and shivering while I was doing them. One was talking too much and other was very quiet. From your experience could they have been on something? They didn't look like they would snort or smoke some shit. I have never seen anyone in person who was under influence, so I don't know how they act.[/QUOTE]Any stimulant can induce tremors; you see it in strippers sometimes, as well. Many of these girls need drugs to get through a day of sessions; I mean, I love to fuck, but fuck ten or twelve different women a day, all ages, shapes, and sizes? No thanks, or at least, not in my right mind.
When I was a kid growing up in blue collar Pontiac and Detroit, I remember the neighborhood bars were always busiest before a factory shift, because the assembly line crew would go in to get lit enough to face the day; assembly line jobs on a day after day basis just demand a little help from the bottle. "Providing" is the same thing, an assembly line job which is easier to face when not quite sober (I assume).
O.
[QUOTE=AtlHobbyist67;3334043]I've noticed a few BP posts where they advertise as a Stallion -- A Stallion is a male horse. Is this code for TV or are they just pure idiots?[/QUOTE]"Any person of the opposite sex you find attractive that you would let ride you like a rodeo show.
Damn you hot, you should be my stallion".
[QUOTE=PopoloGirl;3343582]"Any person of the opposite sex you find attractive that you would let ride you like a rodeo show.
Damn you hot, you should be my stallion".[/QUOTE]Thanks, that actually makes sense. I suppose, as long as she doesn't have anything protruding, I'm good.
I wanted some blue diamonds, please message me or point me in the right direction, didn't want to go to GP.
Thanks in advance!
Hi All, just wanted to get some opinions on what's the best prepaid phone to use for hobbying. Sorry if it's been discussed already, the search function wasn't returning good results.
Thanks,
HD.
[QUOTE=YeOldHornDawg;3358087]Hi All, just wanted to get some opinions on what's the best prepaid phone to use for hobbying. Sorry if it's been discussed already, the search function wasn't returning good results.
Thanks,
HD.[/QUOTE]I use text now in the app store. It uses your data for calls so no record on your phone bill.
[QUOTE=YeOldHornDawg;3358087]Hi All, just wanted to get some opinions on what's the best prepaid phone to use for hobbying. Sorry if it's been discussed already, the search function wasn't returning good results.
Thanks,
HD.[/QUOTE]I use the text free web app from Pinger. You can have as many numbers as you have email accounts. You can do text and voice, minutes are easy to get. 1. 99 for 100 minutes 20 for 1000, or you can watch videos for two minutes a pop. I like it because I can use the text part from a computer when I'm hunting instead of having to do it on the phone all the time.
I have three accounts I use. One for research to find out the rate, location and get a sense of the attitude on unrated providers, One for contacting the providers I'm actually going to see and the other I give to my UTRs and go to girls, I tell them its my private number just for them. (not that they care, but it seems to get me some extra attention at times).
[QUOTE=YeOldHornDawg;3358087]Hi All, just wanted to get some opinions on what's the best prepaid phone to use for hobbying. Sorry if it's been discussed already, the search function wasn't returning good results.
Thanks,
HD.[/QUOTE]I prefer to keep my burner completely separate from my personal phone. If you have an app on your phone it can be tiresome turning on and off push notifications and deleting and redownloading it constantly if you have a SO that sometimes picks up your phone. I don't like to have to worry about covering my tracks like that, just an additional stress I don't need.
I bought a cheap burner Tracfone flip phone for 10 bucks at Walmart. You get double minutes with the cheapie flip phone. You can add minutes with a card (by the phones in Walmart) I buy 60 minutes for like 20 bucks and it gives you 120 minutes and 90 days of service. All my provider contacts are stored in there. I never bring the phone home, it stays in my desk at work. I always pay cash for the time cards and for the purchase of the phone so it is untraceable. In the event of something going really wrong it would be easy to snap it in half and flush it or throw it off a bridge. 30 bucks to get started for the phone and service is cheap insurance for annonimity.
Yes indeed, that is the best option IMHO. The only thing I do different is that I get the one year prepaid card so I don't have to reload so often.
Otherwise follow all those instructions carefully.
Never turn on phone at home or work.
Make sure it's not a smartphone as they are more traceable.
Keep all your monger contacts in burner and NOT on real phone.
Pay CASH always.
Put password on burner.
Add other bogus contacts to mix it in with provider numbers.
NO pics ever. NO personal info ever.
Don't bring it in to date. Leave at car.
Use public phone to register the Tracfone and when asked for a recovery number just make one up.
Something fishy? Crush it and move on.
[QUOTE=BBLove;3359434]I prefer to keep my burner completely separate from my personal phone. If you have an app on your phone it can be tiresome turning on and off push notifications and deleting and redownloading it constantly if you have a SO that sometimes picks up your phone. I don't like to have to worry about covering my tracks like that, just an additional stress I don't need.
I bought a cheap burner Tracfone flip phone for 10 bucks at Walmart. You get double minutes with the cheapie flip phone. You can add minutes with a card (by the phones in Walmart) I buy 60 minutes for like 20 bucks and it gives you 120 minutes and 90 days of service. All my provider contacts are stored in there. I never bring the phone home, it stays in my desk at work. I always pay cash for the time cards and for the purchase of the phone so it is untraceable. In the event of something going really wrong it would be easy to snap it in half and flush it or throw it off a bridge. 30 bucks to get started for the phone and service is cheap insurance for annonimity.[/QUOTE]
I am looking for a few so that I can decide if a prescription is worth it. Can anyone help or push me in the right direction? PM's are fine.
Appreciate all the burner phone / app advice, a lot of good information to consider.
[QUOTE=YeOldHornDawg;3363290]Appreciate all the burner phone / app advice, a lot of good information to consider.[/QUOTE]The only problem with the really cheap phones. Is the texting capability.
I pretty much "ONLY" text when setting up the arrangement.
The cheap phones don't have a keyboard that you can easily text. I found it incredibly frustrating, to the point where upgraded to a better phone.
Texting on these cheap phones is "dark ages" - you have to do it using the numbers (incredibly frustrating!
Texting rather than calling reduces the initial risk while still in setup mode for the arrangement (prior to all the details having been confirmed).
[QUOTE=NiteMan2020;3363453]The only problem with the really cheap phones. Is the texting capability.
I pretty much "ONLY" text when setting up the arrangement.
The cheap phones don't have a keyboard that you can easily text. I found it incredibly frustrating, to the point where upgraded to a better phone.
Texting on these cheap phones is "dark ages" - you have to do it using the numbers (incredibly frustrating!
Texting rather than calling reduces the initial risk while still in setup mode for the arrangement (prior to all the details having been confirmed).[/QUOTE]That is very true.
What model phone did you find with full keyboard??
I'm currently struggling with my keyboard and I'm looking for one that has a full qwerty keyboard while still staying away from smartphone.
Maybe I'm being too cautious but based on the way they went after providers and mongers with RICO charges las time I'm taking all precautions.
[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;3364367]That is very true.
What model phone did you find with full keyboard??
I'm currently struggling with my keyboard and I'm looking for one that has a full qwerty keyboard while still staying away from smartphone.
Maybe I'm being too cautious but based on the way they went after providers and mongers with RICO charges las time I'm taking all precautions.[/QUOTE]Hold up. RICO? When was this?
[QUOTE=HeadHunting;3365683]Hold up. RICO? When was this?[/QUOTE]Those agency busts around New Years. The customers were charged not only with solicitation but also RICO for "contributing to an ongoing criminal enterprise". Personally, I don't think it'll stick as it's hard to argue you're running a criminal organization when you're the customer but it just shows you, along with the agency owners being charged with human trafficking, just how hard they're going after the people in this industry.
Seems like you're diluting the true intent of those types of indictments, namely to go after the real scumbags of the world when you apply it to people who aren't hurting a soul but that's just the hypocritical and corrupt nature of our government, I suppose.
We really need to start electing more libertarians to office, they don't give a fuck what you do.
[QUOTE=YeOldHornDawg;3363290]Appreciate all the burner phone / app advice, a lot of good information to consider.[/QUOTE]I personally don't take my burner phone to the room. I will take my regular phone. If by chance there is a "situation" with uncle LEO, my plan is to play dumb and say a buddy told me to come to the room and drop something off. I'm sure it won't work but at least there won't be proof of messages.
[QUOTE=Barrytwins;3365978]I personally don't take my burner phone to the room. I will take my regular phone. If by chance there is a "situation" with uncle LEO, my plan is to play dumb and say a buddy told me to come to the room and drop something off. I'm sure it won't work but at least there won't be proof of messages.[/QUOTE]LOL, that's pretty funny I actually don't bring either one of the phones and I don't even bring my keys into the room, I hide them somewhere in the parking lot, that way if I walk in and there's some trouble I'll play ultra dumb and tell them I walked in there by mistake I also speak some decent Spanish I'll even pretend I don't even speak English and tell them I'm lost and confused.
[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;3366115]LOL, that's pretty funny I actually don't bring either one of the phones and I don't even bring my keys into the room, I hide them somewhere in the parking lot, that way if I walk in and there's some trouble I'll play ultra dumb and tell them I walked in there by mistake I also speak some decent Spanish I'll even pretend I don't even speak English and tell them I'm lost and confused.[/QUOTE]You hide your keys in the parking lot? That's is risky, what if someone sees you and steals your car?
I got to at least bring the keys in with me. Sometimes I can't leave the phone behind, because sometimes the provider directs me every step of the way to their room. They don't always tell me the exact door number (which is annoying).
[QUOTE=TheParrot;3366210]You hide your keys in the parking lot? That's is risky, what if someone sees you and steals your car?
I got to at least bring the keys in with me. Sometimes I can't leave the phone behind, because sometimes the provider directs me every step of the way to their room. They don't always tell me the exact door number (which is annoying).[/QUOTE]I cannot stand the cat and mouse. I get the general location, then the place then the room number, but if they try to tell me to park around back or whatever, I just ignore that. When they start playing the step by step thing, I usually tell them to give me the room number, if they insist I just bail half the time they go silent at that point anyways. Anytime I see a provider even if I have seen her several times, I usually bring my phone and my 9. I put the donation in an thank you card inside the envelope marked "gift", and leave my wallet at home. If they get the drop on me, I pretend to get my wallet and draw on them. Worst case, they get my locked phone, a donation and a thank you card. I have a keyless start on my car, so I usually have a spare key to an old car, they can have that if they want. I've only ever had to do this twice because I didn't check the bathroom carefully enough, both times I didn't look behind the closed shower curtain. I am fortunate that I have never had to actually pull the trigger. That would be decidedly inconvenient. .
[QUOTE=TheParrot;3366210]You hide your keys in the parking lot? That's is risky, what if someone sees you and steals your car?
I got to at least bring the keys in with me. Sometimes I can't leave the phone behind, because sometimes the provider directs me every step of the way to their room. They don't always tell me the exact door number (which is annoying).[/QUOTE]Regular people don't steal cars only car thieves steal cars and what are the chances that a car thief will take a hike in the woods looking for keys for a car they want to steal.
Hope I'm posting in the right place, forgive me if not as I'm new to this board and The Hobby in general.
I see there's going to be more coverage on BP busts tonight on Channel 2 WSB-tv. Might be worth a watch.
Admittedly, all these busts have this guy rather fearful of how to navigate these waters for the first time! Be safe out there.
"If they get the drop on me, I pretend to get my wallet and draw on them".
Just my humble opinion and not to get in an argument but I respectfully think this is a bad idea.
The above quote looks like the pretense at a horribly ending story.
I use my spider-monger radar instead of a 9. To protect myself and it's worked for decades.
Never been robed or anything else.
I usually smell trouble even by their ad or on the first call and I bail right then and there and not when I'm at the parking lot or in the room.
In my case my brain has worked a lot better than a 9. Better results. And that's in life in general not only in mongering.
Again, I say all this respectfully as only my opinion based on my experiences.
[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;3368505]"If they get the drop on me, I pretend to get my wallet and draw on them".
Just my humble opinion and not to get in an argument but I respectfully think this is a bad idea.
The above quote looks like the pretense at a horribly ending story.
I use my spider-monger radar instead of a 9. To protect myself and it's worked for decades.
Never been robed or anything else.
I usually smell trouble even by their ad or on the first call and I bail right then and there and not when I'm at the parking lot or in the room.
In my case my brain has worked a lot better than a 9. Better results. And that's in life in general not only in mongering.
Again, I say all this respectfully as only my opinion based on my experiences.[/QUOTE]Yep, I completely agree!
[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;3368505]"If they get the drop on me, I pretend to get my wallet and draw on them".
Just my humble opinion and not to get in an argument but I respectfully think this is a bad idea.
The above quote looks like the pretense at a horribly ending story.
I use my spider-monger radar instead of a 9. To protect myself and it's worked for decades.
Never been robed or anything else.
I usually smell trouble even by their ad or on the first call and I bail right then and there and not when I'm at the parking lot or in the room.
In my case my brain has worked a lot better than a 9. Better results. And that's in life in general not only in mongering.
Again, I say all this respectfully as only my opinion based on my experiences.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the "pretend to get my wallet" thing, which has occurred to 100% of concealed carriers when they've visualized a stand off, is pretty much guaranteed to fail in the case of an assailant actually covering you with a drawn firearm.
Even assuming you train your concealed draw constantly (and you can get pretty fast), the time from draw, to presentation, to aim is much, much slower than the trigger action of a readied firearm. Of course, there are fighting systems designed for facing an armed opponent (krav maga comes to mind), but basically if you're in the unavoidable situation of having to engage a guy who's holding a gun on you, drawing yours is less effective than moving closer, pushing the gun hand aside, and taking it to the floor. This is a good time to carry a knife (which so many concealed carriers seem to neglect!
But that's only if you KNOW the guy is shooting you regardless of compliance, like maybe it's a young thug out to prove himself. Otherwise, it's always going to be best to comply, lose some money, and call it a good story.
And of course, simple protocols (like "never go to the Red Carpet Inn on Old National") can prevent robberies entirelyear old.
O.
ps. This post should end with the word "entirely", not "entirelyear old", but the Frankenstein's Monster set of out of control editorial settings of this forum fuck up any sentence ending in "Y" . I'm just leaving it as is as a monument to how not to program a forum.
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;3368774]Yeah, the "pretend to get my wallet" thing, which has occurred to 100% of concealed carriers when they've visualized a stand off, is pretty much guaranteed to fail in the case of an assailant actually covering you with a drawn firearm.
Even assuming you train your concealed draw constantly (and you can get pretty fast), the time from draw, to presentation, to aim is much, much slower than the trigger action of a readied firearm. Of course, there are fighting systems designed for facing an armed opponent (krav maga comes to mind), but basically if you're in the unavoidable situation of having to engage a guy who's holding a gun on you, drawing yours is less effective than moving closer, pushing the gun hand aside, and taking it to the floor. This is a good time to carry a knife (which so many concealed carriers seem to neglect!
But that's only if you KNOW the guy is shooting you regardless of compliance, like maybe it's a young thug out to prove himself. Otherwise, it's always going to be best to comply, lose some money, and call it a good story.
And of course, simple protocols (like "never go to the Red Carpet Inn on Old National") can prevent robberies entirelyear old.
O.
ps. This post should end with the word "entirely", not "entirelyear old", but the Frankenstein's Monster set of out of control editorial settings of this forum fuck up any sentence ending in "Y" . I'm just leaving it as is as a monument to how not to program a forum.[/QUOTE]O is completely right. Is your life worth what you are carrying in your pocket? Would you trade your life for the loss of pride to some asshole you will never see again?
And by life, I'm not just talking about death. Also consider the ramifications of you coming out "ahead" in such a scenario? Consider the implications of you taking this fools life? By the time it's over, you'll probably wish you were dead.
In this hobby, tenure is achieved by using real street smarts and avoiding problems. There is so much great, eager, safe pussy out there. Why risk ruining your life needlessly? Read. Don't be a fool. I'm in this hobby for great pussy and fun times, not to lose my life or spend time in the slammer.
[QUOTE=BBLove;3359434]I prefer to keep my burner completely separate from my personal phone. If you have an app on your phone it can be tiresome turning on and off push notifications and deleting and redownloading it constantly if you have a SO that sometimes picks up your phone. I don't like to have to worry about covering my tracks like that, just an additional stress I don't need.
I bought a cheap burner Tracfone flip phone for 10 bucks at Walmart. You get double minutes with the cheapie flip phone. You can add minutes with a card (by the phones in Walmart) I buy 60 minutes for like 20 bucks and it gives you 120 minutes and 90 days of service. All my provider contacts are stored in there. I never bring the phone home, it stays in my desk at work. I always pay cash for the time cards and for the purchase of the phone so it is untraceable. In the event of something going really wrong it would be easy to snap it in half and flush it or throw it off a bridge. 30 bucks to get started for the phone and service is cheap insurance for annonimity.[/QUOTE]I got to get me one, but wait. I just want to say BB LOVE you are the funniest reviewer I ever came across. When I first signed up for this site I read all your reviews and was crying laughing. You need to write a book or something.
[QUOTE=Ozymandias;3368774]Yeah, the "pretend to get my wallet" thing, which has occurred to 100% of concealed carriers when they've visualized a stand off, is pretty much guaranteed to fail in the case of an assailant actually covering you with a drawn firearm.
Even assuming you train your concealed draw constantly (and you can get pretty fast), the time from draw, to presentation, to aim is much, much slower than the trigger action of a readied firearm. Of course, there are fighting systems designed for facing an armed opponent (krav maga comes to mind), but basically if you're in the unavoidable situation of having to engage a guy who's holding a gun on you, drawing yours is less effective than moving closer, pushing the gun hand aside, and taking it to the floor. This is a good time to carry a knife (which so many concealed carriers seem to neglect!
But that's only if you KNOW the guy is shooting you regardless of compliance, like maybe it's a young thug out to prove himself. Otherwise, it's always going to be best to comply, lose some money, and call it a good story.
And of course, simple protocols (like "never go to the Red Carpet Inn on Old National") can prevent robberies entirelyear old.
O.
ps. This post should end with the word "entirely", not "entirelyear old", but the Frankenstein's Monster set of out of control editorial settings of this forum fuck up any sentence ending in "Y" . I'm just leaving it as is as a monument to how not to program a forum.[/QUOTE]I should have been more specific. I have never had one pull a gun on me. What I meant by "drop on me" is that they have surprised me and are trying to strong arm me into giving up my gold. If someone has a gun pointed at me, they can have it all. I practice drawing, but I don't try to practice drawing it quickly. Mostly because I'm not that quick with my hands anymore, but also, I would imagine, a quick movement is likely to get a person shot whether the guy intended to shoot or not. And second, when I pull it in a smooth, calculated way. I have a better chance of getting it pointed in the right direction without shooting myself in the ass.
This is a no shitter folks, it actually happened and this is how I remember it. The first time it happened to me was in 05 or 06 in, of all places Chattanooga. I suspect that if it had been in ATL, it would have been a completely different story. They guy came out of the bathroom yelling and screaming. He was a pretty big guy, not really muscular and not really fat, just big. I remember his hands were huge. I stepped back as far away as I could motioning him for calm saying ok ok, what do you want. He said money and cards. I said ok. I keep my gun in a holster in the back of my hip, not on the side. I pulled up on my shirt pulled the gun out instead of the wallet and pointed it at him. His attitude changed immediately. Honestly, I don't think I could have hit him even at close range, the adrenaline had me shaking and I couldn't even get my thumb to work right to make sure the safety was off. It was, but in the moment about a billion things were going through my head, I couldn't see anything but him. I could hear her yelling, but to this day couldn't tell you what she was saying.
For the record, I wasn't brave, or cool, I wasn't Clint Eastwood, or Ice Cube, I was terrified, overcome with anxiety and extremely lucky. When I think about it, even today, I feel anxious and slightly nauseous.
I actually hung up the hobby forever at that point vowing to never do it again. I held out for almost a year!