Very nice, clean relatively new spa with no table shower or not offered. Didn't get a name. Slim and pretty with reddish brown hair, small firm breasts, not much butt. Very professional massage, nice tease, excellent hand finish.
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Very nice, clean relatively new spa with no table shower or not offered. Didn't get a name. Slim and pretty with reddish brown hair, small firm breasts, not much butt. Very professional massage, nice tease, excellent hand finish.
Same ladies, new carpet, great massage. Bairen recommends.
Bairen.
Not from around these parts, but just found out short notice that I might likely be in the Chesapeake/Beach area in a few days. I've attempted to scout the forums, but the area is divided pretty significantly across multiple towns / forums so searching is difficult.
What I'm ideally looking for is Asian escort agencies (like Moon Palace or JJClubs up in Washington D. C. Area). I've noticed some of the Asian ads on STG mention being part of an agency at the bottom of their listing, but I'm struggling to find any in this area. Do they actually exist or are these just AMP's?
If not, I would happily settle for some AMP's that consistently have girls under the age of 30 with open menus. If all else fails, it looks like you guys T / A scene might have some potential worth checking out?
Happy to report on whatever my adventures lead to, and will return the favor if you ever find yourselves out near Roanoke / Lynchburg. Feel free to PM if you prefer, and thanks in advance.
Have heard of the agencies up north and love to check them out one day but sadly not one down here. PM details about best ones to check out if ya want. Heard there are some stripper agencies but not Asian ones here.
Most AMP are a roll of the dice with 90% chance of late 30's-40's in age. Heard there's a few in the area where you can ask for a girl by name but they are rare if you know a young one works there. Still seems to be random from basic research though.
Few TA are younger but they are rare too and girls share numbers so you might get someone older still calling the same number. Never hurts to ask but sometimes they lie when they say late 20's and she is obviously 35. LOL!
If you're not from the area you should notice that it's a little cheaper. Have paid 300 up north for same 150 service down here. Bigger cities like DC or Roanoke or Richmond can charge more, usually because people pay that much without question.
A few members get butt hurt when you point out they over pay for this area or we can control the price. There's some premiums around but average TA starts 120-160 hour so enjoy your savings but you can dig for more expensive quality too.
[QUOTE=Citizenv;5727289]Not from around these parts, but just found out short notice that I might likely be in the Chesapeake/Beach area in a few days. I've attempted to scout the forums, but the area is divided pretty significantly across multiple towns / forums so searching is difficult.
What I'm ideally looking for is Asian escort agencies (like Moon Palace or JJClubs up in Washington D. C. Area). I've noticed some of the Asian ads on STG mention being part of an agency at the bottom of their listing, but I'm struggling to find any in this area. Do they actually exist or are these just AMP's?
If not, I would happily settle for some AMP's that consistently have girls under the age of 30 with open menus. If all else fails, it looks like you guys T / A scene might have some potential worth checking out?
Happy to report on whatever my adventures lead to, and will return the favor if you ever find yourselves out near Roanoke / Lynchburg. Feel free to PM if you prefer, and thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BairenNanhai;5727227]Same ladies, new carpet, great massage. Bairen recommends.
Bairen.[/QUOTE]Sophia is still there, but I believe the other girl left recently and the owner is filling in.
Long time lurker but first post.
I had my first dream last summer and have had a few since. I'll post about those another time but I'm not from this area.
My first dream ever, I dreamt I was in the area over by the mall near constitution. I remember this dream was pretty standard everything. She could tell it was my first time and I was nervous. So she really upcharged me for OTC bottom and UTC top. Lots of haggling, I thought. I'd learned a lot from lurking, so knew how to let her know I was there for business. The girl of my dreams was very pretty, probably late 20's, early 30's, bolt ons, small D at least, cute butt. I dreamt of standard HE, No jackhammer, nice finish, full hour. Got her name, thought I remembered it being Melissa.
Fast forward to a few days ago. Knew I'd be in town today with some time, so called up to see if Melissa still worked there. They had no idea what I was talking about (language barrier). Then made a rookie mistake. Asked to make an appt, they said, you come now? I said no Saturday. They laughed and said call Saturday.
So, Saturday afternoon (today), I doze off, and have a dream where I call, ask if I can come later, she says come on. I head over, and I'm greeted at the door by a pretty good looking Asian girl, no mask, so cold see her full face. Asked for HR, 65. As she stood up and I got a look at her, realized THIS was who I dreamt of back in the summer.
In my dream she took me back, got started, average massage, I started rubbing her legs, asked if it was OK, she said yes. She jokingly asked if I wanted to give her a massage. I jumped on that offer. Sure! Wouldn't be the first time that happened. She said, oh you rub me? I asked if she was going to take her clothes off and get on the table. I dreamt she said, "you tip?" In my dream, we negotiated a bit, agreed, she took a donation out of the room, came back. Thought I might be getting swindled for a minute, but she came back.
I dreamt she asked me to turn around while she got undressed, which I thought was funny, but I did like she asked. I turned around to see a gorgeous pair, little waist, flat stomach, cute little bottom. She was down to just a very sexy little pair of panties. I dreamt she laid down on her stomach, I got some lotion, and started giving her a legit massage. Neck, shoulders, arms, back, legs, ankles. Taking a little time, but really trying to make her comfortable. After a few minutes of this, I tested the limits, and massaged the cheeks a little. Back down her legs, came back up and pulled one from the AMP playbook, let my fingers run up her thighs, against the crotch of her panties, and up her back.
She squirmed a little, but did nothing to indicate she didn't like it. So, I rubbed some more, then started massaging between her legs. She started breathing, and lightly moaning.
After a little more of this, I could tell she was getting hot, and starting to soak through a little. I asked her to flip over. On her flip, I dreamt that I got more lotion, and started to tease the girls. Massaged her front, while massaging down low through the panties. Asked if I could take them off, she said yes. I dreamt of FIV while I handled the enhancements, and she started work on HE, while I'm standing beside her lying on the table. I ask for DATY, she says no, I ask what SHE likes, she asks me to nurse.
I'm getting close, and we only have a couple minutes left in this dream. We swap, I lay down, she continues very good HJ, leans over and shoves nip in my mouth. I dreamt I nursed and FIV, while she pumped the lotion.
At this point, a little over an hour, she cleaned up, thanked me, and I headed out.
Probably too much, but totally worth it to me. 65/150 for a little over an hour.
BTW, dreamt I got her name, for real this time. Cindy. Because of course it was. If I'm back in town again and get the chance, will absolutely repeat.
[QUOTE=Cecil2113;5729673]Long time lurker but first post.
I had my first dream last summer and have had a few since. I'll post about those another time but I'm not from this area.
My first dream ever, I dreamt I was in the area over by the mall near constitution. I remember this dream was pretty standard everything. She could tell it was my first time and I was nervous. So she really upcharged me for OTC bottom and UTC top. Lots of haggling, I thought. I'd learned a lot from lurking, so knew how to let her know I was there for business. The girl of my dreams was very pretty, probably late 20's, early 30's, bolt ons, small D at least, cute butt. I dreamt of standard HE, No jackhammer, nice finish, full hour. Got her name, thought I remembered it being Melissa.
Fast forward to a few days ago. Knew I'd be in town today with some time, so called up to see if Melissa still worked there. They had no idea what I was talking about (language barrier). Then made a rookie mistake. Asked to make an appt, they said, you come now? I said no Saturday. They laughed and said call Saturday.
So, Saturday afternoon (today), I doze off, and have a dream where I call, ask if I can come later, she says come on. I head over, and I'm greeted at the door by a pretty good looking Asian girl, no mask, so cold see her full face. Asked for HR, 65. As she stood up and I got a look at her, realized THIS was who I dreamt of back in the summer.
In my dream she took me back, got started, average massage, I started rubbing her legs, asked if it was OK, she said yes. She jokingly asked if I wanted to give her a massage. I jumped on that offer. Sure! Wouldn't be the first time that happened. She said, oh you rub me? I asked if she was going to take her clothes off and get on the table. I dreamt she said, "you tip?" In my dream, we negotiated a bit, agreed, she took a donation out of the room, came back. Thought I might be getting swindled for a minute, but she came back.
I dreamt she asked me to turn around while she got undressed, which I thought was funny, but I did like she asked. I turned around to see a gorgeous pair, little waist, flat stomach, cute little bottom. She was down to just a very sexy little pair of panties. I dreamt she laid down on her stomach, I got some lotion, and started giving her a legit massage. Neck, shoulders, arms, back, legs, ankles. Taking a little time, but really trying to make her comfortable. After a few minutes of this, I tested the limits, and massaged the cheeks a little. Back down her legs, came back up and pulled one from the AMP playbook, let my fingers run up her thighs, against the crotch of her panties, and up her back.
She squirmed a little, but did nothing to indicate she didn't like it. So, I rubbed some more, then started massaging between her legs. She started breathing, and lightly moaning.
After a little more of this, I could tell she was getting hot, and starting to soak through a little. I asked her to flip over. On her flip, I dreamt that I got more lotion, and started to tease the girls. Massaged her front, while massaging down low through the panties. Asked if I could take them off, she said yes. I dreamt of FIV while I handled the enhancements, and she started work on HE, while I'm standing beside her lying on the table. I ask for DATY, she says no, I ask what SHE likes, she asks me to nurse.
I'm getting close, and we only have a couple minutes left in this dream. We swap, I lay down, she continues very good HJ, leans over and shoves nip in my mouth. I dreamt I nursed and FIV, while she pumped the lotion.
At this point, a little over an hour, she cleaned up, thanked me, and I headed out.
Probably too much, but totally worth it to me. 65/150 for a little over an hour.
BTW, dreamt I got her name, for real this time. Cindy. Because of course it was. If I'm back in town again and get the chance, will absolutely repeat.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a pleasant dream. Pricey for what was offered in the dream, but pleasant.
Heads up if you are new. Not everybody offers that but you can usually get that at most places for around the $60 to $100 tip range without having to haggle or push back... And surprisingly it's usually on the low end of that spectrum. If you offer a fair amount she'll take it, if you ask she's going to shoot for the sun.
$150 usually gets full service (if available) or at least a naked BJ with full roaming open. TA usually give everything out of hotels at $160 hour range but some people like the massage so go to AMPs. Depends on what you're looking for.
One place she straight up came out saying she wanted $200 BJ but and in the moment most guys don't challenge or know how to challenge that. She happily did the same thing for $100.
These girls know what they're doing and can't blame a salesman for trying but don't be the fool that pays the sticker price when it's expected to be much lower and she's just making her shot.
[QUOTE=Cecil2113;5729673]Long time lurker but first post.
I had my first dream last summer and have had a few since. I'll post about those another time but I'm not from this area.
My first dream ever, I dreamt I was in the area over by the mall near constitution. I remember this dream was pretty standard everything. She could tell it was my first time and I was nervous. So she really upcharged me for OTC bottom and UTC top. Lots of haggling, I thought. I'd learned a lot from lurking, so knew how to let her know I was there for business. The girl of my dreams was very pretty, probably late 20's, early 30's, bolt ons, small D at least, cute butt. I dreamt of standard HE, No jackhammer, nice finish, full hour. Got her name, thought I remembered it being Melissa.
Fast forward to a few days ago. Knew I'd be in town today with some time, so called up to see if Melissa still worked there. They had no idea what I was talking about (language barrier). Then made a rookie mistake. Asked to make an appt, they said, you come now? I said no Saturday. They laughed and said call Saturday.
So, Saturday afternoon (today), I doze off, and have a dream where I call, ask if I can come later, she says come on. I head over, and I'm greeted at the door by a pretty good looking Asian girl, no mask, so cold see her full face. Asked for HR, 65. As she stood up and I got a look at her, realized THIS was who I dreamt of back in the summer.
In my dream she took me back, got started, average massage, I started rubbing her legs, asked if it was OK, she said yes. She jokingly asked if I wanted to give her a massage. I jumped on that offer. Sure! Wouldn't be the first time that happened. She said, oh you rub me? I asked if she was going to take her clothes off and get on the table. I dreamt she said, "you tip?" In my dream, we negotiated a bit, agreed, she took a donation out of the room, came back. Thought I might be getting swindled for a minute, but she came back.
I dreamt she asked me to turn around while she got undressed, which I thought was funny, but I did like she asked. I turned around to see a gorgeous pair, little waist, flat stomach, cute little bottom. She was down to just a very sexy little pair of panties. I dreamt she laid down on her stomach, I got some lotion, and started giving her a legit massage. Neck, shoulders, arms, back, legs, ankles. Taking a little time, but really trying to make her comfortable. After a few minutes of this, I tested the limits, and massaged the cheeks a little. Back down her legs, came back up and pulled one from the AMP playbook, let my fingers run up her thighs, against the crotch of her panties, and up her back.
She squirmed a little, but did nothing to indicate she didn't like it. So, I rubbed some more, then started massaging between her legs. She started breathing, and lightly moaning.
After a little more of this, I could tell she was getting hot, and starting to soak through a little. I asked her to flip over. On her flip, I dreamt that I got more lotion, and started to tease the girls. Massaged her front, while massaging down low through the panties. Asked if I could take them off, she said yes. I dreamt of FIV while I handled the enhancements, and she started work on HE, while I'm standing beside her lying on the table. I ask for DATY, she says no, I ask what SHE likes, she asks me to nurse.
I'm getting close, and we only have a couple minutes left in this dream. We swap, I lay down, she continues very good HJ, leans over and shoves nip in my mouth. I dreamt I nursed and FIV, while she pumped the lotion.
At this point, a little over an hour, she cleaned up, thanked me, and I headed out.
Probably too much, but totally worth it to me. 65/150 for a little over an hour.
BTW, dreamt I got her name, for real this time. Cindy. Because of course it was. If I'm back in town again and get the chance, will absolutely repeat.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GAGuy2020;5728267]Have heard of the agencies up north and love to check them out one day but sadly not one down here. PM details about best ones to check out if ya want. Heard there are some stripper agencies but not Asian ones here.
Most AMP are a roll of the dice with 90% chance of late 30's-40's in age. Heard there's a few in the area where you can ask for a girl by name but they are rare if you know a young one works there. Still seems to be random from basic research though.
Few TA are younger but they are rare too and girls share numbers so you might get someone older still calling the same number. Never hurts to ask but sometimes they lie when they say late 20's and she is obviously 35. LOL!
If you're not from the area you should notice that it's a little cheaper. Have paid 300 up north for same 150 service down here. Bigger cities like DC or Roanoke or Richmond can charge more, usually because people pay that much without question.
A few members get butt hurt when you point out they over pay for this area or we can control the price. There's some premiums around but average TA starts 120-160 hour so enjoy your savings but you can dig for more expensive quality too.[/QUOTE]So for starters I want to say thanks to you for your response, as well as to the others who've sent me messages privately trying to help out. My trip has been delayed / cancelled due to the weather playing out the way it has (much more ice here than originally expected), but I will keep these notes for down the road if and when I do make it out there. Since I can't offer any reviews of your area at the moment, hopefully I can offer some value on others that may benefit some of you in your travels.
I am a bit surprised though, you guys have a little cluster of cities out there in a nice little grouping, and it's surprising to me that some of the talent from DC doesn't trickle down to you guys at all. I was there in early November and saw 3 or 4 of Moonpalace's girls during my trip. In all of those cases, the girl I met was actually the girl in the photos, which is mostly unheard of in this industry. The experience has completely destroyed my ability to get enjoyment in my local area LOL.
As for Roanoke, I will say that you guys should avoid it like the plague. I'm not sure if many of the AMP's in town are owned by the same person or what, but the city swept through a lot of the AMP's a few weeks ago and shut a handful of them down without any warning because many of them were operating with expired business licenses. Many of them still have not reopened, and of the few that remain the talent is either terrible, or you get slighted on time you paid for, or the girls have rediculous GPS. Just avoid it entirely if you can.
Lynchburg isn't much better. The scene here is smaller to begin with, and one of our local girls who used to be both young and had a decent menu left the area. None of her replacements have been noteworthy.
[QUOTE=Cecil2113;5729673]Long time lurker but first post.
I had my first dream last summer and have had a few since. I'll post about those another time but I'm not from this area.
My first dream ever, I dreamt I was in the area over by the mall near constitution. I remember this dream was pretty standard everything. She could tell it was my first time and I was nervous. So she really upcharged me for OTC bottom and UTC top. Lots of haggling, I thought. I'd learned a lot from lurking, so knew how to let her know I was there for business. The girl of my dreams was very pretty, probably late 20's, early 30's, bolt ons, small D at least, cute butt. I dreamt of standard HE, No jackhammer, nice finish, full hour. Got her name, thought I remembered it being Melissa.
Fast forward to a few days ago. Knew I'd be in town today with some time, so called up to see if Melissa still worked there. They had no idea what I was talking about (language barrier). Then made a rookie mistake. Asked to make an appt, they said, you come now? I said no Saturday. They laughed and said call Saturday.
So, Saturday afternoon (today), I doze off, and have a dream where I call, ask if I can come later, she says come on. I head over, and I'm greeted at the door by a pretty good looking Asian girl, no mask, so cold see her full face. Asked for HR, 65. As she stood up and I got a look at her, realized THIS was who I dreamt of back in the summer.
In my dream she took me back, got started, average massage, I started rubbing her legs, asked if it was OK, she said yes. She jokingly asked if I wanted to give her a massage. I jumped on that offer. Sure! Wouldn't be the first time that happened. She said, oh you rub me? I asked if she was going to take her clothes off and get on the table. I dreamt she said, "you tip?" In my dream, we negotiated a bit, agreed, she took a donation out of the room, came back. Thought I might be getting swindled for a minute, but she came back.
I dreamt she asked me to turn around while she got undressed, which I thought was funny, but I did like she asked. I turned around to see a gorgeous pair, little waist, flat stomach, cute little bottom. She was down to just a very sexy little pair of panties. I dreamt she laid down on her stomach, I got some lotion, and started giving her a legit massage.[/QUOTE]Sounds like the massages have gotten a bit better since I have been gone.
[QUOTE=GAGuy2020;5730230]Heads up if you are new. Not everybody offers that but you can usually get that at most places for around the $60 to $100 tip range without having to haggle or push back... And surprisingly it's usually on the low end of that spectrum. If you offer a fair amount she'll take it, if you ask she's going to shoot for the sun.
$150 usually gets full service (if available) or at least a naked BJ with full roaming open. TA usually give everything out of hotels at $160 hour range but some people like the massage so go to AMPs. Depends on what you're looking for.
One place she straight up came out saying she wanted $200 BJ but and in the moment most guys don't challenge or know how to challenge that. She happily did the same thing for $100..[/QUOTE]I actually started by offering $80 for that. Got up to $100, then stopped. A few minutes later, she proposed the final price. I assumed it was high, but also didn't want to miss out on a rare opportunity, as I'm not in the area often at all.
What's why'alls FS max price?
I've got FS for a Ben tip at Dunmore, then was told the next time a new girl said 1. 2 next time. I brought that next and a different girl said 1. 4 next time- haven't gone back since that one.
Then went to Euclid2 and was told 2. For FS. Didn't do it. Thinking I may go back and se if I can haggle for 1. 2-1. 4.
Being $40-60 in the hole for the massage already, tacking on FS should be around 80-120 tip. 40-60 is HE tip range, with BJ somewhere in the middle.
Unless it's a good massage worth extra, know you can get a TA $140-160 hour. Personal rule of is to keep the whole experience under $200/ hr. Seen AMP girls ask for up to $200 tip and would haggle that down unless she is hot, offers multi pops, or extra kinks.
She will go high or sometimes ask what you want to pay. The key is not to tell them what you would pay but just under what you would pay then when she counters to what you would pay, take it. 😉.
[QUOTE=BasedBootyGod;5737948]What's why'alls FS max price?
I've got FS for a Ben tip at Dunmore, then was told the next time a new girl said 1. 2 next time. I brought that next and a different girl said 1. 4 next time- haven't gone back since that one.
Then went to Euclid2 and was told 2. For FS. Didn't do it. Thinking I may go back and se if I can haggle for 1. 2-1. 4.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BasedBootyGod;5737948]What's why'alls FS max price?
I've got FS for a Ben tip at Dunmore, then was told the next time a new girl said 1. 2 next time. I brought that next and a different girl said 1. 4 next time- haven't gone back since that one.[/QUOTE]It depends whether you want to find a favorite or it's a one time thing.
If you just want a one time and move on, that's not my thing but I suppose I'd top out around 100 or so. With the house fee, you're looking at 160 for an hour and you could get a TA for that. But I'd make sure not to have more in my wallet than I want to spend. If she held out more, "hey, this is all I've got, see?
Back when I was trying to find a favorite, I'd put 40 on the side table at the start, and see where things went. Sometimes it didn't go anywhere special, and next week I'd try another place. Sometimes the girl and I had good chemistry and she didn't ask for more tip because I made her happy in other ways; then I'd go back and see her several times a month until she moved out of town. I've had some of them refuse extra tip, in fact.
And "make her happy in other ways" doesn't just mean DATY; it might mean going grocery shopping with her, or helping her figure out a phone contract, or just talking with her. Some of these girls are all about the money, but some are just here from New York, don't really know anyone in the area, she can tolerate her coworker and mamasan but would really like some decent human relationship outside of that, and she's in the shop thirteen hours a day so she's hardly going to meet anyone at the book club. You can probably get on her good side just by remembering her name a week later.
[QUOTE=SwordKnight;5741715]It depends whether you want to find a favorite or it's a one time thing.
If you just want a one time and move on, that's not my thing but I suppose I'd top out around 100 or so. With the house fee, you're looking at 160 for an hour and you could get a TA for that. But I'd make sure not to have more in my wallet than I want to spend. If she held out more, "hey, this is all I've got, see?
Back when I was trying to find a favorite, I'd put 40 on the side table at the start, and see where things went. Sometimes it didn't go anywhere special, and next week I'd try another place. Sometimes the girl and I had good chemistry and she didn't ask for more tip because I made her happy in other ways; then I'd go back and see her several times a month until she moved out of town. I've had some of them refuse extra tip, in fact.
And "make her happy in other ways" doesn't just mean DATY; it might mean going grocery shopping with her, or helping her figure out a phone contract, or just talking with her. Some of these girls are all about the money, but some are just here from New York, don't really know anyone in the area, she can tolerate her coworker and mamasan but would really like some decent human relationship outside of that, and she's in the shop thirteen hours a day so she's hardly going to meet anyone at the book club. You can probably get on her good side just by remembering her name a week later.[/QUOTE]Great information shared here Sword! Much appreciated. I'm a VB local who makes occasional trips (2 x monthly, a 3rd time if my budget agrees). I like the idea of returning to the spa that gives best value for the money but I've found that the girls move so often it's difficult to make a connection so it's often hit or miss with me. I'm not a FS parlor guy. I prefer a good massage with teasing followed by a no hassle HJ with roaming. My pet peeve with these parlors is a girl who wants to negotiate a HJ. That place gets scratched off my list.