Massage Parlor Reports

Same thing happened to me last week. Spent 10 minutes with the tall one (Yuki? Some talking among them between the thin walls, then she asked if I had an appointment while my face was buried in her little kitty. Said no, she left, then Mia came in (who I personally thought was pretty good looking and we spent a great hour together). In all fairness I did not make an appointment, so that's my bad if I screwed it up for anyone else who did have one. I'm a spur of the moment type of guy.

I love Brisa, not at 1030 tho. Got to get there sooner before the rest of you.

[QUOTE=Mountainmonger;7391718]Well that's awkward. I was the other Yuki appointment. 15 m Into it, Yuki starts yelling through the door at Mia, and furiously texting while telling me to keep going, then says someone else will come be with me. I said I made the appointment, she stayed. [/QUOTE]

Think Brisa will clean up the scheduling and service issues, they read this stuff.

[QUOTE=Mountainmonger;7391718]Well that's awkward. I was the other Yuki appointment. 15 m Into it, Yuki starts yelling through the door at Mia, and furiously texting while telling me to keep going, then says someone else will come be with me. I said I made the appointment, she stayed. Unexpectedly popped 20 m into my hour, Yuki rushed out after offering a 2nd pop with Mia, Mia came in, demanded more money, talked me into 3/5 for a BBBJ that was 5 seconds long and the most unenthusiastic HJ in human history. Yuki came back and did a few minutes of 4 h then disappeared again. Mia was pretty rude and seemed generally annoyed to be there. At that point my mood was fried and was suspicious Mia would mess with my wallet during cleanup. Skipped the 2nd pop, left. Mia not worth it at all.

Ocean spa and their demands for more $$ once in the room was honestly not as bad as this round at Brisa. Won't be back until this rotation is gone. There was also a smell of old cabbage or broccoli permeating the place.

Brisa flew to close to the sun, and like Icarus, is crashing to the ground.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WhyNot96;7391677]I think if I came back this month I would actually see Crystal. Not the hottest I've ever seen but could tell she was energetic as hell through the walls LOL.[/QUOTE]Last time I went to see Yuki, got a peek of Crystal too. If you are saying she sounded energetic, perhaps I need to do a 4-hand with Yuki and Crystal. Always enjoy a nice rim&blow.

[QUOTE=TheGride;7391792]Same thing happened to me last week. Spent 10 minutes with the tall one (Yuki? Some talking among them between the thin walls, then she asked if I had an appointment while my face was buried in her little kitty. Said no, she left, then Mia came in (who I personally thought was pretty good looking and we spent a great hour together). In all fairness I did not make an appointment, so that's my bad if I screwed it up for anyone else who did have one. I'm a spur of the moment type of guy.

I love Brisa, not at 1030 tho. Got to get there sooner before the rest of you.[/QUOTE]Interesting that all the negative Brisa posts are coming from new accounts while the older hands seem not to be complaining. Just an observation.

[QUOTE=TheGride;7391792]Same thing happened to me last week. Spent 10 minutes with the tall one (Yuki? Some talking among them between the thin walls, then she asked if I had an appointment while my face was buried in her little kitty. Said no, she left, then Mia came in (who I personally thought was pretty good looking and we spent a great hour together). In all fairness I did not make an appointment, so that's my bad if I screwed it up for anyone else who did have one.[/QUOTE]That's weird that Yuki didn't even ask if you had an appointment before walking you to the room. I appreciate you admitting the truth that you didn't have an appointment. They need to do a better job with this. Like when a food delivery person comes to pick up food at a restaurant, they need to verify they are grabbing the right food package. Maybe when you show up, you are required to show the appointment on your phone. The mamasan can leave a message in Chinese or something.

M&M will be open next week. I live around the corner and it has been undergoing a slow but steady transformation. They confirmed with me over the phone that the table shower has gone away. RIP.

I wonder if they've gone legit. I doubt it.

Apologies if that came off as a complaint or negative, definitely not my intention. I do not post often, but I do read everyone's reviews. That being said. Brisa is my new favorite spot!

I don't even log onto TNA anymore. The talent is better looking, the service is better, and I don't have to dig as deep into my pockets.

[QUOTE=Gibs789;7391863]Interesting that all the negative Brisa posts are coming from new accounts while the older hands seem not to be complaining. Just an observation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gibs789;7391863]Interesting that all the negative Brisa posts are coming from new accounts while the older hands seem not to be complaining. Just an observation.[/QUOTE]I think it's the age old debate that always pops up on these forums. Lots of positives, lots of people getting good treatment from certain spots, everyone has their atf that they swear by, people not wanting to post about bad experiences for whatever reason, etc etc.

I do think it's starting to trend up more of people being a bit more honest / willing to report about bad experiences. Like for me, last month Sophia at Brisa 10/10. But this experience with Yuki / Mia was the exact opposite. Posted about both and I think more people should be sharing about their good times And bad times.

[QUOTE=WhyNot96;7392040]I think it's the age old debate that always pops up on these forums. Lots of positives, lots of people getting good treatment from certain spots, everyone has their atf that they swear by, people not wanting to post about bad experiences for whatever reason, etc etc.

I do think it's starting to trend up more of people being a bit more honest / willing to report about bad experiences. Like for me, last month Sophia at Brisa 10/10. But this experience with Yuki / Mia was the exact opposite. Posted about both and I think more people should be sharing about their good times And bad times.[/QUOTE]Rlly appreciate the honest opinions / reviews. Funny have posted the same thing a few days ago about honest reviews on them Shanghai girls. Sure there are many good girls, but there are a few bad ones too, even though they might get replaced quickly. Bad posts help us mongers avoid / watch out for the shenanigans from these girls. If there's no bad posts, girls would think it's fine for shenanigans. Frequent walk out, cut time, bait and switch etc. Not sure if this is shared or not, went to see Sophia on her last day at Shanghai, the service was bad she was in / out of the rm way too many and took her 10 mins to came back right after handed her the $$, gave me a ～30 sec BBBJ then walked out, came back in asked to eat her out then walked out again. The exp was not good, so advice is try not to go to your atf when it's close to month end, her effort might be lackluster rather than leaving you a good memory and wanting more of her. Sophia is still a rock star.
Happy hunting and stay safe, folks!

I had to go and see what's up and just had a perfect session with Yuki. I came like a freight train in the bag (I'm proud to say, finally some restraint.) with those long legs wrapped around me in mish and with DFK. I think the interest in Yuki's open menu kind of overshadows the fact that her service is great all around. Love her personality and pillow talk, she also does excellent massage. She enjoys sex especially if she knows you a little, that makes everything better. $$ all in, no money talk at all (if I had opted for BBFS I'm guessing more would be needed).

So that is two perfect sessions in one week for me at this shop (Crystal too), I doubt I could say that about any other, except possibly Maple. There is nothing wrong at Brisa, they just had a bad scheduling mix-up this week that led to awkwardness that sound like it wasn't handled well.

Now is a really good time to go, because think management has put out orders to blow every mongers mind that comes in. Yuki does that by default. The coming and going and up selling has been strongly discouraged.

[QUOTE=Gibs789;7391863]Interesting that all the negative Brisa posts are coming from new accounts while the older hands seem not to be complaining. Just an observation.[/QUOTE]I believe several less than acceptable experiences are due to the extremely variable traffic at a shop. If there was a person that simply answered the door and advised who was available and when, the interruptions would be fewer. Otherwise have a door label with lights similar to the Costco gas fuel island letting you know which pump was currently in use, hopefully with a countdown timer so you could gauge your wait time.

I have found appointments to work best with ladies I have seen regularly, that I trust and the appointment can't be for too much in advance. A ladies day may quickly fill and she won't sit and wait for too long with money at the door. That's just my experience.

Are summer and crystal the same gal?

Had summer at JM and crystal at Brisa. I swear to god they're the same gal. Am I wrong? And if so, where was crystal at prior? Because I do know her from somewhere.

She knew me when I went in for my appointment at Brisa. She had even said that she thought she knew me last time I was in there at Brisa and she was on the rag. I knew it wasn't the ol service routine because she called me "crazy dick" just like she did at another shop prior. I can't for the life of me remember where. She likes it like I like giving it to these parlor *****. Hard and fast! It gets even better in the fact that she won't let you bust until she gets hers first. You try and pull out of a position she likes to switch up and she'll aggressively pull me back in while looking at me in the eyes with almost a rage in them and say no no no, where are you going? I want to cum so keep fucking me like this.

Might just be the chem her and I got going after so many visits but it's always electric with her.

I don't want to steal the fallen Aussies thunder but why not give it a try. If you see crystal at Brisa, tell her Ol crazy dick sends his regards LOL. Idk if that'll get ya a better go around with her but considering she remembered the nickname before I did, I think she'd get a laugh.

But once again, someone please confirm if I'm mistaken thinking she also goes by summer and if I am, where was crystal at prior to Brisa. Not finding much with the search function, but then again, I may just be retarded in knowing how to use it.

Summer now goes by Mia and is 10 minutes away at Lotus Spa in Federal Way. Mia / Summer does great massage too beside the wild service you describe. Krystal rocks my world too.

[QUOTE=FlyWaySkyWay;7392502]Are summer and crystal the same gal?

Had summer at JM and crystal at Brisa. I swear to god they're the same gal. Am I wrong? And if so, where was crystal at prior? Because I do know her from somewhere.

She knew me when I went in for my appointment at Brisa. She had even said that she thought she knew me last time I was in there at Brisa and she was on the rag. I knew it wasn't the ol service routine because she called me "crazy dick" just like she did at another shop prior. I can't for the life of me remember where. She likes it like I like giving it to these parlor *****. Hard and fast! It gets even better in the fact that she won't let you bust until she gets hers first. You try and pull out of a position she likes to switch up and she'll aggressively pull me back in while looking at me in the eyes with almost a rage in them and say no no no, where are you going? I want to cum so keep fucking me like this.

Might just be the chem her and I got going after so many visits but it's always electric with her.

I don't want to steal the fallen Aussies thunder but why not give it a try. If you see crystal at Brisa, tell her Ol crazy dick sends his regards LOL. Idk if that'll get ya a better go around with her but considering she remembered the nickname before I did, I think she'd get a laugh.

But once again, someone please confirm if I'm mistaken thinking she also goes by summer and if I am, where was crystal at prior to Brisa. Not finding much with the search function, but then again, I may just be retarded in knowing how to use it.[/QUOTE]

Saw 2 cruisers pulled off to the side of the road that separates the complex from the airfield. They were directly outside the parking lot on that first curve of the road that turns up north. Was odd to me for them being parked against traffic. Nothing came of it prior to my visit, during and I don't think after, but could be that they've got wind of all the excitement. Idk. Not trying to scare anyone but just keep your eyes open and use your better judgement if you get stopped, they can't prove nothing that you don't tell them.

On another topic because I don't want to spam a bunch of posts, how much for only a half hour of fun? I've never stayed for anything less than my full hour or close to if I was rushed out of a shop that I'm not a regular at. But sometimes I have my fun and then get a mediocre massage after and it has me regretting staying for more than just the fun, which I could get done in a half hour sesh with no massage.

Auburn PD hangs out there a lot. That Days Inn across the street is world famous for being basically a trap house. That part of Auburn is sketch after dark. I doubt they care about Brisa they have bigger fish to fry in that area.

[QUOTE=FlyWaySkyWay;7392517]Saw 2 cruisers pulled off to the side of the road that separates the complex from the airfield. They were directly outside the parking lot on that first curve of the road that turns up north. Was odd to me for them being parked against traffic. Nothing came of it prior to my visit, during and I don't think after, but could be that they've got wind of all the excitement. Idk. Not trying to scare anyone but just keep your eyes open and use your better judgement if you get stopped, they can't prove nothing that you don't tell them.

On another topic because I don't want to spam a bunch of posts, how much for only a half hour of fun? I've never stayed for anything less than my full hour or close to if I was rushed out of a shop that I'm not a regular at. But sometimes I have my fun and then get a mediocre massage after and it has me regretting staying for more than just the fun, which I could get done in a half hour sesh with no massage.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gibs789;7391863]Interesting that all the negative Brisa posts are coming from new accounts while the older hands seem not to be complaining. Just an observation.[/QUOTE]I have reviewed Brisa and am a firm supporter of them, that being said I had a bad exp also there. I was there for an appointment with Yuki and although it went fine we ran out of time before things finished for me. Because of this Yuki had a bit of a complex and asked if I wanted another hour with someone else, I assured her I did like her and took her up on letting me take a shower. It was a slow day and I was the only one there, when I got out of the shower she had Mia and Crystal waiting with smiles offering another hour. Mia looked super cute so I said fuck it and decided to stay, I paid again and at that point I should have taken it back and left. Mia had the normal fee in hand but said, more! With hand still open. I told her to count again because she had the right amount? I still had my wallet in hand and she literally reached for it to see what I had left in there. I don't ever carry extra cash that I do not plan to spend so there was not more there, she acted a little frustrated but said ok and we went to get things started.

The rest was a train wreck and is not worth describing, she obviously was not happy with the standard donation and did not treat me well. When I left I texted Alyssa and let her know that Yuki was fine but Mia needs to adjust her attitude and if she does not want to see clients she should not take their money.

I am not saying it is a bad place to go, the girls here are always beautiful and normally great service but I would not see Mia again myself because of what happened. I didn't post this before because I wanted to give Alyssa\management the feedback and try to let them deal with it. It appears it kept happening for others though, as always YMMV, Yuki is good but I have not done a session with Crystal.

Anyone been to two Lillie's in fed way lately?

I've been in the past but not for a while. Love that they wear leggings, love that look. The times I have been it's never been more than a massage with a HE, nothing more and made it out to seem like they don't offer more beyond that.

Wondering if that's changed at all, I'm hoping they expand their menu as they sometimes had younger fit girls working.

[QUOTE=Tobin1914;7392652]I have reviewed Brisa and am a firm supporter of them, that being said I had a bad exp also there. I was there for an appointment with Yuki and although it went fine we ran out of time before things finished for me. Because of this Yuki had a bit of a complex and asked if I wanted another hour with someone else, I assured her I did like her and took her up on letting me take a shower. It was a slow day and I was the only one there, when I got out of the shower she had Mia and Crystal waiting with smiles offering another hour. Mia looked super cute so I said fuck it and decided to stay, I paid again and at that point I should have taken it back and left. Mia had the normal fee in hand but said, more! With hand still open. I told her to count again because she had the right amount? I still had my wallet in hand and she literally reached for it to see what I had left in there. I don't ever carry extra cash that I do not plan to spend so there was not more there, she acted a little frustrated but said ok and we went to get things started.

The rest was a train wreck and is not worth describing, she obviously was not happy with the standard donation and did not treat me well. When I left I texted Alyssa and let her know that Yuki was fine but Mia needs to adjust her attitude and if she does not want to see clients she should not take their money.

I am not saying it is a bad place to go, the girls here are always beautiful and normally great service but I would not see Mia again myself because of what happened. I didn't post this before because I wanted to give Alyssa\management the feedback and try to let them deal with it. It appears it kept happening for others though, as always YMMV, Yuki is good but I have not done a session with Crystal.[/QUOTE]Customers speak, managers listen. They just fired Mia after seeing this review, and reiterated that this kind of behavior is totally unacceptable in their shop. It can be hard regulating asking gently for more, but when service suffers the girl will be let go. The managers really do care about service quality and customer satisfaction.

I happened to be in the area and got to check out Brisa Spa. It's a nice clean store, no smells. There is one long snaking hallway with a bunch of doors along both sides of the wall.

I didn't get to try any of the ladies this trip, I was spent after Tiffany this morning.

Yuki, I've been with a couple of times. Beautiful, tall 5'10", middle of the back black hair, slender body with MM B's, small butt. Mid to late 20's. 9 looks.

Mia, maybe 5'2" more voluptuous HWP, probably D's. Middle of the back black hair. Late 20's? 7 to looks.

Crystal, middle of the back black hair, 8 looks, late 20's? Slender body, closer to Alex or Lulu, A's or B's. Small butt.

Brisa has had zero problems with LEO, shop in same building has been there 10 years and no problems either. Federal Way and Auburn pretty relaxed.

[QUOTE=FlyWaySkyWay;7392517]Saw 2 cruisers pulled off to the side of the road that separates the complex from the airfield. They were directly outside the parking lot on that first curve of the road that turns up north. Was odd to me for them being parked against traffic. Nothing came of it prior to my visit, during and I don't think after, but could be that they've got wind of all the excitement. Idk. Not trying to scare anyone but just keep your eyes open and use your better judgement if you get stopped, they can't prove nothing that you don't tell them.

On another topic because I don't want to spam a bunch of posts, how much for only a half hour of fun? I've never stayed for anything less than my full hour or close to if I was rushed out of a shop that I'm not a regular at. But sometimes I have my fun and then get a mediocre massage after and it has me regretting staying for more than just the fun, which I could get done in a half hour sesh with no massage.[/QUOTE]

Anyone have a line on who is at Maple this week? Recommendations?

I had a brief exchange with folks at Brisa by text but I don't feel comfortable going back until then next rotation. I don't need the drama. Bummer because they were my favorite place so far.

Also open to a recommendation on a place in Tacoma / Lakewood besides Ocean (too greedy / upcharges in the room). Anyone familiar with Tulip or Janzilan?

CiCi and Molly, I favor CiCi by a wide margin, but Molly is younger and cute.

Brisa removed the girl causing problems (I hear) and Yuki and Crystal are absolutely first rate. No reason to avoid in my mind. I wasn't seeing Mia anyway.

[QUOTE=Mountainmonger;7394035]Anyone have a line on who is at Maple this week? Recommendations?

I had a brief exchange with folks at Brisa by text but I don't feel comfortable going back until then next rotation. I don't need the drama. Bummer because they were my favorite place so far.

Also open to a recommendation on a place in Tacoma / Lakewood besides Ocean (too greedy / upcharges in the room). Anyone familiar with Tulip or Janzilan?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mountainmonger;7394035]Anyone have a line on who is at Maple this week? Recommendations?

I had a brief exchange with folks at Brisa by text but I don't feel comfortable going back until then next rotation. I don't need the drama. Bummer because they were my favorite place so far.

Also open to a recommendation on a place in Tacoma / Lakewood besides Ocean (too greedy / upcharges in the room). Anyone familiar with Tulip or Janzilan?[/QUOTE]RZ Massage has a new girl Honey (no longer Amy) I was going to go last night but forgot they have a full on PO with lights on in the parking lot which is too much for me even if it's just for looters. Hopefully reports in this area comes back.

[QUOTE=Gibs789;7393538]Customers speak, managers listen. They just fired Mia after seeing this review, and reiterated that this kind of behavior is totally unacceptable in their shop. It can be hard regulating asking gently for more, but when service suffers the girl will be let go. The managers really do care about service quality and customer satisfaction.[/QUOTE]Not quite a price gouging but along the same lines. I saw that the ocean 3 location was back up but now under the name of Linda spa.

Went in, saw two girls, a slightly older maybe mid 30's petite girl, and a younger maybe late 20's taller girl. Chose the younger one. Handed over the usual for a 1 hour sesh. She said 1 hour is. 7, that already seemed a bit wild since most shops say. 5 or what seems more the usual now is. 6.

Still took the regular amount but said it would only be a 30 minute session. Still ended up more like an hour, massage was okay fairly light she did good on the legs though and calves. Flip comes and it's CBJ, would prefer bbj, but dress comes off and she looks good. D cup it looks like, seems MM but that she already had a good size even before that. Medium ass, cute back dimples. Really cute face.

She didn't say how much more she would like and I still got more than the 30 she initially said, had a bit of a cuddle sesh after and she seemed pretty playful.

I'd say it's a recommend if they adjust their house fees.

So this was last week just forget to post the west side of the state treating me right go to Maple Massage. Cici is such a blessing if you treat her right she will treat you if your hungry she's down. She will do the favor back BBBJ is worth it, she likes it if you kiss here ears and forehead just have that in hand and a shower afterwords hits the spot.

[QUOTE=KrDoggy;7394282]CiCi and Molly, I favor CiCi by a wide margin, but Molly is younger and cute.

Brisa removed the girl causing problems (I hear) and Yuki and Crystal are absolutely first rate. No reason to avoid in my mind. I wasn't seeing Mia anyway.[/QUOTE]Cici is super awesome. And her massage skills are no joke.

You heard right about the girl at Brisa being uninvited to work there. Alyssa just went back to China, so maybe Mia thought that the current manager (we all know who it is, but she doesn't like her name mentioned) would let it fly. LOL. Nope. New manager style is identical to Alyssa's. I'm shocked how many spa managers don't seem to read or care about customer feedback. Girls at a lot of stores get bad reviews but stay there all month. Or longer. Yes, I know I'm going to come off as a fanboy, but Brisa isn't the only store that actively manages their independent contractors. And not surprisingly, they all happen to me my go-to spots: Brisa, JM, Maple, Tokyo.

Thank you guys for taking the hit on Mia before I came back. Because I would have been there tonite.

Crystal and Yuki are both fantastic.

Bonus content: Hottie Korean superstar BB is back at Snow Spa in FedWay (formerly Alice Spa. Freshly renamed). Experience her in DG at least once before you die. Good lord.

I saw Yuki and Crystal over the weekend. Store is clean and well-kept, and has a shower in case you need it.

Yuki. Beautiful, tall 5'8', body model. She gave a slow and sensual BBBJ. Great DFK, DATY, DG with nice view of her butt (Latina size LOL). I really enjoyed the session with her.

Crystal. Pretty and down to earth personality. Good manmade B's, slender, bubble / cute butt. She has great energy with good BBBJ and CG. She did a decent massage helping me to relax. I actually went a second round DG with her afterwards haha.

Great times with them. I will be back soon.

I saw Yuki and Crystal over the weekend. Store is clean and well-kept, and has a shower in case you need it.

Yuki. Beautiful, tall 5'8', body model. She gave a slow and sensual BBBJ. Great DFK, DATY, DG with nice view of her butt (Latina size LOL). I really enjoyed the session with her.

Crystal. Pretty and down to earth personality. Good manmade B's, slender, bubble / cute butt. She has great energy with good BBBJ and CG. She did a decent massage helping me to relax. I actually went a second round DG with her afterwards haha.

It is worth to check them out. Great times with them. I will be back soon.

Mia (Summer from JM), BeiBei for TUMA lovers (great with or without IMHO), and super MILF Nana.

Brisa, Maple, Lotus are my staples down south, great to hear BB is back too, good times! Sadly I am writing from India and things may change by the time I'm back.

[QUOTE=Panda888;7395175]Cici is super awesome. And her massage skills are no joke.

You heard right about the girl at Brisa being uninvited to work there. Alyssa just went back to China, so maybe Mia thought that the current manager (we all know who it is, but she doesn't like her name mentioned) would let it fly. LOL. Nope. New manager style is identical to Alyssa's. I'm shocked how many spa managers don't seem to read or care about customer feedback. Girls at a lot of stores get bad reviews but stay there all month. Or longer. Yes, I know I'm going to come off as a fanboy, but Brisa isn't the only store that actively manages their independent contractors. And not surprisingly, they all happen to me my go-to spots: Brisa, JM, Maple, Tokyo.

Thank you guys for taking the hit on Mia before I came back. Because I would have been there tonite.

Crystal and Yuki are both fantastic.

Bonus content: Hottie Korean superstar BB is back at Snow Spa in FedWay (formerly Alice Spa. Freshly renamed). Experience her in DG at least once before you die. Good lord.[/QUOTE]

Dropped by Brisa. Met up with "I" who is back from China. She was quick to tell me that she had canned Mia for upselling and warned the girls that won't fly.

Saw Yuki and Crystal. Both smoking hot. Both great service.

Met Sunny on the way out. Closer to a MILF, but still pretty face and very hot body. Manager says her service is great and that she was popular at Shanghai Spa. I might have to head back tomorrow to verify LOL.

Sorry for the weird typo on my last post. My account is new and therefore still under moderation (not complaining. That's a smart thing to do with new accounts) therefore the editing window always closes before the post is live and I notice the error. I'm guessing that issue will fix itself eventually with more posts and more time. .

Stay safe out there.

[QUOTE=KrDoggy;7395957]Mia (Summer from JM), BeiBei for TUMA lovers (great with or without IMHO), and super MILF Nana.

Brisa, Maple, Lotus are my staples down south, great to hear BB is back too, good times! Sadly I am writing from India and things may change by the time I'm back.[/QUOTE]Just saw Nana and man. She likes it hard and fast. We broke the condom which freaked her out and she ran out of the room. I thought game over but she came back with another, sucked me hard and we went back at it til I popped. Pulled out just in case it happened again though.

[QUOTE=Panda888;7395175]Cici is super awesome. And her massage skills are no joke.

You heard right about the girl at Brisa being uninvited to work there. Alyssa just went back to China, so maybe Mia thought that the current manager (we all know who it is, but she doesn't like her name mentioned) would let it fly. LOL. Nope. New manager style is identical to Alyssa's. I'm shocked how many spa managers don't seem to read or care about customer feedback. Girls at a lot of stores get bad reviews but stay there all month. Or longer. Yes, I know I'm going to come off as a fanboy, but Brisa isn't the only store that actively manages their independent contractors. And not surprisingly, they all happen to me my go-to spots: Brisa, JM, Maple, Tokyo.

Thank you guys for taking the hit on Mia before I came back. Because I would have been there tonite.

Crystal and Yuki are both fantastic.

Bonus content: Hottie Korean superstar BB is back at Snow Spa in FedWay (formerly Alice Spa. Freshly renamed). Experience her in DG at least once before you die. Good lord.[/QUOTE]Does she got a nice big butt LOL? Or is she just really good in DG?

Had another great time with Yuki, exp was same as others, she's awesome, a service queen. Her style is slow and sensual, she could going an hour BBBJ if you can hold it LOL.

[QUOTE=IstlFun;7396588]Had another great time with Yuki, exp was same as others, she's awesome, a service queen. Her style is slow and sensual, she could going an hour BBBJ if you can hold it LOL.[/QUOTE]Right, sensual BBBJ that will make some ejaculated into her mouth. I went with Crystal again today. Great GF experience as usual, and her massage was very soothing. You can't go wrong with either one. Young, beautiful with great service and attitude!

One of the things that makes mongering more pleasant for me is to treat these girls extra nice and get treated well in return. I love DATY and will try hard to make a girl cum if I think it is possible. I don't think my junior is particularly big but big enough and I am told very stiff and comfortable for my partner. I like to say kind things to the girls and listen to them too. I am happy to bring then stuff and even take them to the market. I tend to get some extras and specials early in this process, but I also tend to pay and not take discounts.

One trend I have noticed is for the girl to progress from "I like you!" to "lao gong" over time. Lao Gong means husband but I have learned it also means bad service. Like with a real wife once I am lao gong the massages tend to stop and the sex may become very rote. I start getting asked to provide lavish gifts and most outrageous of all, a girl who sees 4-10 strangers per day will become insanely jealous if she finds out I have seen another woman. I've had them react strongly to even a picture of me with another woman.

Even though I enjoy being nice, I am starting to think this is bad for me (some fantastic fucks gone sour) but also not right for the girls. They clearly are seeing something that is not really there, maybe cruel go very far with it. I've ended up with 3-4 faux "wives".

I'm not sure what exactly to do, I don't enjoy treating these girls badly, I am genuinely fond of them, but clearly I need to draw some lines. I want them happy to see me and eager to provide great service. Maybe just need to establish a limit before I move on, and maybe come back only after a cooling down period.

Interested in other mongers experiences, or if you all are just not idiots like me.

[QUOTE=KrDoggy;7397119]One of the things that makes mongering more pleasant for me is to treat these girls extra nice and get treated well in return. I love DATY and will try hard to make a girl cum if I think it is possible. I don't think my junior is particularly big but big enough and I am told very stiff and comfortable for my partner. I like to say kind things to the girls and listen to them too. I am happy to bring then stuff and even take them to the market. I tend to get some extras and specials early in this process, but I also tend to pay and not take discounts.
.[/QUOTE]You're simping hard for these girls and they're taking advantage of your niceness, very common in China. There are plenty of videos as such search the Chinese term "licking dog" which is simping, these girls are master of gold digging in their mind $ comes first, unless they know you have like $10m then they'll simp over you. Want to married you badly then after half of it or all, another common thing in China. Bottom line it's all about $. I too once felt for this, I'm a nice but I don't linke to feel like a sucker, I was nice to them, then the services I got slowly go down hill, spoke to mms about it, was told not to post a review of it, it'll hurt their business, mofo I paid for a bad and can't even rant, WTF. After that, I'm more direct of what I wanted, lead the session especially with new talents, so I get the service I like, if I'm paying for it then I want to leave happy. Tip is have balls to set boundaries if a girl can't deliver ofc reasonable requests like can't ask greek if she doesn't offer it, ask the $ back and switch. If they ask u a favor, then ask them what do you get in return, an extra pop on the house maybe etc. Lastly, Leave the place with a smile, not with a feeling that you got ripped off.

I thought I was breaking hearts or being cruel and really was just being cultivated as a pet! LOL The good news is that I am a bad dog and would always bridle when serious money became involved. This would of course frustrate the girls. I did the research you suggested, and clearly the small things I have been doing, which I enjoyed, gave them the impression I would be a simp for them. There is quite the tradition of women using some men in this way in Chinese culture. This helps to explain why when I would get mad and tell them no, I would start getting better service. Just the opposite of what I expected.

The ironic part is that I travel all over the world (in India now) and I specialize in these cultural tics, except I look at them to help international teams work together and be productive. No surprise at all they are just as important for sex and relationships. I doubt these girls have truly bad intentions, but adding a nice American licking dog to cater to them is culturally something they might prize. They want me away from other girls because they think I'm their possession.

I think this will help me chart a better course, still fun to have a sweet GFE experience, but need to make sure I don't lead them down the Tiangou path. When I hear lao gong that is probably a great indicator they need a reset.

[QUOTE=IstlFun;7397283]You're simping hard for these girls and they're taking advantage of your niceness, very common in China. There are plenty of videos as such search the Chinese term "licking dog" which is simping, these girls are master of gold digging in their mind $ comes first, unless they know you have like $10m then they'll simp over you. Want to married you badly then after half of it or all, another common thing in China. Bottom line it's all about $. I too once felt for this, I'm a nice but I don't linke to feel like a sucker, I was nice to them, then the services I got slowly go down hill, spoke to mms about it, was told not to post a review of it, it'll hurt their business, mofo I paid for a bad and can't even rant, WTF. After that, I'm more direct of what I wanted, lead the session especially with new talents, so I get the service I like, if I'm paying for it then I want to leave happy. Tip is have balls to set boundaries if a girl can't deliver ofc reasonable requests like can't ask greek if she doesn't offer it, ask the $ back and switch. If they ask u a favor, then ask them what do you get in return, an extra pop on the house maybe etc. Lastly, Leave the place with a smile, not with a feeling that you got ripped off.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KrDoggy;7397352]I thought I was breaking hearts or being cruel and really was just being cultivated as a pet! LOL The good news is that I am a bad dog and would always bridle when serious money became involved. This would of course frustrate the girls. I did the research you suggested, and clearly the small things I have been doing, which I enjoyed, gave them the impression I would be a simp for them. There is quite the tradition of women using some men in this way in Chinese culture. This helps to explain why when I would get mad and tell them no, I would start getting better service. Just the opposite of what I expected.

The ironic part is that I travel all over the world (in India now) and I specialize in these cultural tics, except I look at them to help international teams work together and be productive. No surprise at all they are just as important for sex and relationships. I doubt these girls have truly bad intentions, but adding a nice American licking dog to cater to them is culturally something they might prize. They want me away from other girls because they think I'm their possession.

I think this will help me chart a better course, still fun to have a sweet GFE experience, but need to make sure I don't lead them down the Tiangou path. When I hear lao gong that is probably a great indicator they need a reset.[/QUOTE]I always treat girls or managers nicely. Lots of these girls have a difficult life back home. Most of them works to earn money to help family, pay off debts, or raising kids etc. Whenever I have a session with them, I treat them like my gf by having pleasant experience for both, not just me. Put yourself in the situation, would you do the work for $$? You may think it's normal for these girls. But you never know how they feel or having lifetime emotional effects on them.

Overall, I have never had a bad experience at these spas. I am being treated well because of good manner and hygiene. Being a gentleman feels great, regardless where you are! What goes around comes around!!

[QUOTE=Asiantycoon;7396615]Right, sensual BBBJ that will make some ejaculated into her mouth. I went with Crystal again today. Great GF experience as usual, and her massage was very soothing. You can't go wrong with either one. Young, beautiful with great service and attitude![/QUOTE]How much did you negotiate for the BBBJ?

[QUOTE=Asiantycoon;7397683]I always treat girls or managers nicely. Lots of these girls have a difficult life back home. Most of them works to earn money to help family, pay off debts, or raising kids etc. Whenever I have a session with them, I treat them like my gf by having pleasant experience for both, not just me. Put yourself in the situation, would you do the work for $$? You may think it's normal for these girls. But you never know how they feel or having lifetime emotional effects on them.

Overall, I have never had a bad experience at these spas. I am being treated well because of good manner and hygiene. Being a gentleman feels great, regardless where you are! What goes around comes around!![/QUOTE]Uhh, I don't know. Most of these girls I talked to are making 200-300 k a year tax free, the popular ones actually a bit more than that. They are trying to build enough of a nest egg to either retire early, buy real estate or start other businesses. I'm not saying don't treat them nicely or anything, and I'm sure some of them are forced to do this for one reason or another, but I don't think that's the norm.