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[QUOTE=Jc2490;3717331]I saw this one on the Chicago board. It's worth a read.

[URL]http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/02/06/prostitution-sting-aided-by-bots/[/URL][/QUOTE]Got to be ways to deal with this. For sure; one should never discuss business by voice or text. I've had text conversations where the girl asked "how much" and I refused to answer. I offered to buy her a coke at McD's to chat but she wanted a $$ commitment. I explained that it wasn't safe for either of us to have that conversation by text. She or I could have been trolling.

I think the safest way is to use the SW rules with all of them: arrange a pickup or meet at a neutral location, get her in the car and drive away before discussing business. One could be fairly well assured that she's a real person and not a decoy at that point.

[QUOTE=ZipperSquid;3717779]Lately I've been thinking the same thing.[/QUOTE]Ditto. I have been trying to think of the best way to quit. I know cold turkey won't work. Thinking I'll start with not seeing anyone new. Stick to my ATF and quit when she does? LOL.

[QUOTE=DieselMike;3717949]Got to be ways to deal with this. For sure; one should never discuss business by voice or text. I've had text conversations where the girl asked "how much" and I refused to answer. I offered to buy her a coke at McD's to chat but she wanted a $$ commitment. I explained that it wasn't safe for either of us to have that conversation by text. She or I could have been trolling.

I think the safest way is to use the SW rules with all of them: arrange a pickup or meet at a neutral location, get her in the car and drive away before discussing business. One could be fairly well assured that she's a real person and not a decoy at that point.[/QUOTE]When a provider who I have not seen before states pricing, I become skeptical, especially if it is high pressure or trying to get me to commit via text. I think it is good advice to not discuss pricing or services by text unless it is for a "massage".

[QUOTE=AngryBob;3718152]When a provider who I have not seen before states pricing, I become skeptical, especially if it is high pressure or trying to get me to commit via text. I think it is good advice to not discuss pricing or services by text unless it is for a "massage".[/QUOTE]Bot programs are pretty easy to spot they response to a answer the same way. You ask a simple question it does not know how to response. And if your agreement is for time your not doing anything illegal.

[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;3717423]That is scary shit. I'm seriously starting to think I'm to old for this shit.[/QUOTE]My feelings exactly. Been doing this for literally decades. I'm loosing my nerve and the hassle of it all has really got old.

If they want us, they will find us.

[URL]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://insider.foxnews.com/amp/article/60162&ved=0ahUKEwjH3omaqpbZAhUh7IMKHRx1A8EQyM8BCDcwAA&usg=AOvVaw0RSxyDIRuT4uqs3nyiOwhe&ampcf=1[/URL]

[QUOTE=Ps1999;3718947]If they want us, they will find us.

[URL]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://insider.foxnews.com/amp/article/60162&ved=0ahUKEwjH3omaqpbZAhUh7IMKHRx1A8EQyM8BCDcwAA&usg=AOvVaw0RSxyDIRuT4uqs3nyiOwhe&ampcf=1[/URL][/QUOTE]Yup, your phone, be a burner or not, is the ultimate tracking device. Most people have no idea the amount of forensic evidence on their phone, and not just talking about GPS. That can be played good or bad, depending on what you are doing. The big question in my mind is who can access that data and under what circumstances.

[QUOTE=AngryBob;3719073]Yup, your phone, be a burner or not, is the ultimate tracking device. Most people have no idea the amount of forensic evidence on their phone, and not just talking about GPS. That can be played good or bad, depending on what you are doing. The big question in my mind is who can access that data and under what circumstances.[/QUOTE]The supreme court ruled 2 years ago that a search warrant is required to search, open, possess, delay, deny a persons cellphone including digital phone records from the service provider. If you convay to LEO give them or allow a search by permission. Basically it ruled the phone is as private from government as a abode, locked trunk, wallet, purse. To break the expectation of privacy a warrant is required. Unless of course you hand it to them give the OK or. Your deceased and they are investigating a crime or purported crime or in their duty to stop a crimes they think will happen. Just remember cops lie and its totally acceptable. But john q public can't or can be charged with "misleading" " hampering" or " provide false info". Remember the first 6 months of police academy school is perfecting the art of the lie. The "gotcha" class. That's why defense lawyers always tell you to ask for a lawyer and say nothing.

[QUOTE=ThoughtIdJoin;3719119]The supreme court ruled 2 years ago that a search warrant is required to search, open, possess, delay, deny a persons cellphone including digital phone records from the service provider. If you convay to LEO give them or allow a search by permission. Basically it ruled the phone is as private from government as a abode, locked trunk, wallet, purse. To break the expectation of privacy a warrant is required. Unless of course you hand it to them give the OK or. Your deceased and they are investigating a crime or purported crime or in their duty to stop a crimes they think will happen. Just remember cops lie and its totally acceptable. But john q public can't or can be charged with "misleading" " hampering" or " provide false info". Remember the first 6 months of police academy school is perfecting the art of the lie. The "gotcha" class. That's why defense lawyers always tell you to ask for a lawyer and say nothing.[/QUOTE]Ok, that is good to know. So if you are pulled over for some reason and your cell phone is in the car while they arrest you for whatever, they cannot go into your cell phone and read any messages or see who you have called without a warrant, even though the cell phone is in the car?

Suppose they seize the cell phone until they do get a warrant, is that legal?

[QUOTE=AngryBob;3719579]Ok, that is good to know. So if you are pulled over for some reason and your cell phone is in the car while they arrest you for whatever, they cannot go into your cell phone and read any messages or see who you have called without a warrant, even though the cell phone is in the car?

Suppose they seize the cell phone until they do get a warrant, is that legal?[/QUOTE]No they can't hold your cell I in the hopes they " might" get a warrant. If your stopped anything in plain view like a pipe bag of weed etc. That gives them cause to search and sieze. But having a cell in plain site or on your possession is not illegal. Now of you committed a crime they can hold you 24 hours. Execute warrants for your home, bank records, phone company etc. But getting pulled over for a brake light out or speeding they need a warrant. Now if a dead.

[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;3717423]That is scary shit. I'm seriously starting to think I'm to old for this shit.[/QUOTE]Your mailbox is full and I just wanted to say "thanks!

[URL]https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/west/news/2018/02/13/woman-complains-harassment-saying-she-no-longer-wanted-mans-prostitute/314476002/[/URL]

[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;3734289][URL]https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/west/news/2018/02/13/woman-complains-harassment-saying-she-no-longer-wanted-mans-prostitute/314476002/[/URL][/QUOTE]I was very fond of a provider who had dropped off the face of the earth. Damned if I didn't run into her by chance one day. I was very excited to see her and gave her my card. I got a PM on here that she called the police and reported me for stalking (I doubt it, but that's what she claimed).

Remember, when it comes to "he said-she said", women have the upper hand. I (and by "I", I mean "US" as mongers) are better off treating them like cum-dumpsters. Expecting return of affection, respect, honor, honesty or any other slightly human emotion just gets us into trouble. You don't have to be mean to them, but remember, just because you deposited some sperm in them doesn't mean you should develop any more feelings for them than the condom you deposited some sperm into once. If you find yourself helping with rent, meeting their mom or their kids, writing letters of recommendation, buying groceries, or any other action significant of an emotional tie, please go buy a box of Trojans and do the same things for them.

Coochie (Yep, been down that road more than once) Eater.

God Bless You All.

P.S. I just bought a used Trojan some food for the month, and it actually was appreciative.

P. P. S Boy, am I a sucker. I just figured out it wasn't my Trojan.

[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;3734289][URL]https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/west/news/2018/02/13/woman-complains-harassment-saying-she-no-longer-wanted-mans-prostitute/314476002/[/URL][/QUOTE]Never have I got attached to a provider and don't intend to. I myself am a low volume monger myself for the last 10 or so years, on and off. But my simple rules are make appointment. Figure donation at her location, If they don't like it I'll walk. Haven't walked yet. After I'm done I'll ask her to not call or text me back. Ill tell her if I want to see you again I'll contact you. But it does make you wonder who is that klingy obsessed guy on this board? Hmmm?

[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;3734289][URL]https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/west/news/2018/02/13/woman-complains-harassment-saying-she-no-longer-wanted-mans-prostitute/314476002/[/URL][/QUOTE]That dude is going to be in a lot of trouble. He's not going to be able to let it go.

Nothing more to add, just an intriguing local modeling scene story. ;)

[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5342059/Ex-model-fights-boyfriend-career.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;3734289][URL]https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/west/news/2018/02/13/woman-complains-harassment-saying-she-no-longer-wanted-mans-prostitute/314476002/[/URL][/QUOTE]Her donation was definitely on the high end. He sure spent a lot of money on her. Curious what she looks like or what her talents are. LOL.

Anyone else curious about the backdoor Facebook group?

[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;3734289][URL]https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/west/news/2018/02/13/woman-complains-harassment-saying-she-no-longer-wanted-mans-prostitute/314476002/[/URL][/QUOTE]He said / she said: She told the cops that the guy paid her for sex, multiple times. The guy told cops that he gave her money just to help her out. I'm surprised that he wasn't charged with anything.

Interesting that her attitude about pay for play (sorry, "accepting financial help") changed after rehab. Nothing like a reformed sinner! And, as I understand, the recidivism rate is around 90%, so all a guy would have to do is wait for her to come around.

[QUOTE=DieselMike;3735159]He said / she said: She told the cops that the guy paid her for sex, multiple times. The guy told cops that he gave her money just to help her out. I'm surprised that he wasn't charged with anything.

Interesting that her attitude about pay for play (sorry, "accepting financial help") changed after rehab. Nothing like a reformed sinner! And, as I understand, the recidivism rate is around 90%, so all a guy would have to do is wait for her to come around.[/QUOTE]He obviously has a crush on her. I've had crushes. But not to this extent. I've cared about providers, but not to the point of falling in love. Came close a few times. One was an Asian, pretty, independent, no drugs. I wasn't the only one. She ended up running off with one client. Coachlight Rachel admitted on TV what she did. The fellow is misguided and probably the only cute girls he gets to lay are young addicts. Sometimes the sex bug hijacks your brain, just like heroin.

[QUOTE=DieselMike;3735159]He said / she said: She told the cops that the guy paid her for sex, multiple times. The guy told cops that he gave her money just to help her out. I'm surprised that he wasn't charged with anything.

Interesting that her attitude about pay for play (sorry, "accepting financial help") changed after rehab. Nothing like a reformed sinner! And, as I understand, the recidivism rate is around 90%, so all a guy would have to do is wait for her to come around.[/QUOTE]I truly hope any addict can pull themselves out of that trap, but Hey, if they fall back in and need some change, I sure would be glad to help them out. Of course, it's never for drugs. It's for their cell phone, their mom's / kid's birthday, help on rent, etc. So I would never give a woman money for drugs but I'm always happy to chip in on birthday presents.

Coochie (one of the lowest life forms imaginable) Eater.

God bless you all and happy birthday mom!

[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;3735300]He obviously has a crush on her. I've had crushes. But not to this extent. I've cared about providers, but not to the point of falling in love. Came close a few times. One was an Asian, pretty, independent, no drugs. I wasn't the only one. She ended up running off with one client. Coachlight Rachel admitted on TV what she did. The fellow is misguided and probably the only cute girls he gets to lay are young addicts. Sometimes the sex bug hijacks your brain, just like heroin.[/QUOTE]While the guy had a problem with letting go of this Gem. I'm not giving her a free pass on this. I'm sure when she was getting her drugs, groceries, rent, phone paid and everything else he was doing for her she "liked" him then. I'm not putting this all on him. Clearly he should have gotten the hint after she disapeared for a while.

I had one girl that I saw maybe a half dozen times that when it was cuddle time she said I love you. She was nice, treated me well, and was fun to be with but how could I love a woman more than half my age that really just wanted a guy to take care of her? Thanks I have enough kids already.

Then theres the time I had started to think this way about a woman. Good chick bad habbits. Got cleaned up and is doing well, right now. She contacts me once in a while just to tell me how she's doing and chat a bit. Nothing more wanted from me. I'm good with that.

[QUOTE=LookingForLefty;3734289][URL]https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/west/news/2018/02/13/woman-complains-harassment-saying-she-no-longer-wanted-mans-prostitute/314476002/[/URL][/QUOTE]It has happened to me. I just got too close and started to think she cared about me, was I wrong. She called cops on me about phone calls, oh by the way it was my phone and I was paying for it, I told him story he said stop or you will get ticket. I told him get my phone back, he said he can't do that because no proof it was my phone. Like said, only time they like you is when they need something. Oh, too show how stupid I am, she is still around. Boyfriends and sobriety usually last about 6 weeks for hoes. I guess I'm to dumb to say no, just waiting for the time to come where I don't want sex anymore, maybe then.

[QUOTE=Ps1999;3735486]While the guy had a problem with letting go of this Gem. I'm not giving her a free pass on this. I'm sure when she was getting her drugs, groceries, rent, phone paid and everything else he was doing for her she "liked" him then. I'm not putting this all on him. Clearly he should have gotten the hint after she disapeared for a while.

I had one girl that I saw maybe a half dozen times that when it was cuddle time she said I love you. She was nice, treated me well, and was fun to be with but how could I love a woman more than half my age that really just wanted a guy to take care of her? Thanks I have enough kids already.

Then theres the time I had started to think this way about a woman. Good chick bad habbits. Got cleaned up and is doing well, right now. She contacts me once in a while just to tell me how she's doing and chat a bit. Nothing more wanted from me. I'm good with that.[/QUOTE]Wonder if she is calling me too. Might be the same one. Usually they unload all their trailer park drama on me.

Lefty, I am very disappointed you let this guy beat you to Alla.

[QUOTE=DrManhattan;3734819]Nothing more to add, just an intriguing local modeling scene story. ;)

[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5342059/Ex-model-fights-boyfriend-career.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HankyPankie;3734400]Never have I got attached to a provider and don't intend to. I myself am a low volume monger myself for the last 10 or so years, on and off. But my simple rules are make appointment. Figure donation at her location, If they don't like it I'll walk. Haven't walked yet. After I'm done I'll ask her to not call or text me back. Ill tell her if I want to see you again I'll contact you. But it does make you wonder who is that klingy obsessed guy on this board? Hmmm?[/QUOTE]Good rules to play by. I sense too you properly do your smart (er) "research" prior.

I've dreamed where I get a call from a prior provider, calling a few weeks later, that wants me to meet somewhere different than we have in the past. I've got a feeling that dream does not end well if I don't politely say "no thanks. ".

[QUOTE=DieselMike;3735159]Interesting that her attitude about pay for play (sorry, "accepting financial help") changed after rehab. Nothing like a reformed sinner! And, as I understand, the recidivism rate is around 90%, so all a guy would have to do is wait for her to come around.[/QUOTE]You must've missed this part

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She told the officer she had sex with him at least seven more times.[/QUOTE].

Now if we do the math. 7 * 160 = 1120, plus his initial outlays. He has a pretty nice budget to play. She must have something that really attracts him.

So she eventually retired. LOL.

I don't know what will happen now.

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0c8621e8bb84[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jc2490;3742188]I don't know what will happen now.

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0c8621e8bb84[/URL][/QUOTE]Your link seems to be broken.

[QUOTE=TheCondor7;3742765]Your link seems to be broken.[/QUOTE]You may have to copy it and hit google search.

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2018/02/27/house-passes-anti-online-sex-trafficking-bill-allows-targeting-of-websites-like-backpage-com/?utm_term=.3c6ae09ce994[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jc2490;3742188]I don't know what will happen now.

[URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0c8621e8bb84[/URL][/QUOTE]The oldest profession will not go out of business. Mongers will want to monger and providers will need to provide. There is a lot of pressure for government to devote resources (LEO's) to battle this scourge. Sure, get rid of the trafficking but a business transaction between consenting adults is no one's business.

[QUOTE=PNR2004;3743560]The oldest profession will not go out of business. Mongers will want to monger and providers will need to provide. There is a lot of pressure for government to devote resources (LEO's) to battle this scourge. Sure, get rid of the trafficking but a business transaction between consenting adults is no one's business.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2018/02/27/house-passes-anti-online-sex-trafficking-bill-allows-targeting-of-websites-like-backpage-com/?utm_term=.9a680cb5112e[/URL]

I don't think anyone wants to see children caught up in anything bad, but agreed in that which two consenting, free to make their own decisions adults do, should not be a matter to anyone else (devoid of slippery slope problems which anyone can / will argue), IMHO.

[QUOTE=PNR2004;3743560]The oldest profession will not go out of business. Mongers will want to monger and providers will need to provide. There is a lot of pressure for government to devote resources (LEO's) to battle this scourge. Sure, get rid of the trafficking but a business transaction between consenting adults is no one's business.[/QUOTE]Our public policy for every problem continues to steamroll in the direction of government control at the expense of liberty. One one hand, literally millions of dollars are being spent on the cat and mouse game of cop vs hooker and cop vs John and cop vs internet site in the name of "getting rid of trafficking". But it does nothing, ZERO to prevent trafficking. Those kids will just be moved to street corners and probably be in harm's way even more. At the same time, judges will have actual sex traffickers in their courtrooms and give them ridiculously weak sentences. Legislators need to stop fooling themselves by passing laws that accomplish nothing but the eroding of liberty.

[QUOTE=CrackerJack77;3745536]Our public policy for every problem continues to steamroll in the direction of government control at the expense of liberty.[/QUOTE]Be it School Shootings, Drugs, Immigration, or Sex Trafficking; all we get for legislation is bandages for the visible bleeding and not look for / at the actual problem causing the bleeding.

There are plenty of laws, policies, and procedures that are out there to prevent any of the above.

How stupid can a dude get? [URL]http://fox6now.com/2018/03/05/man-2-others-face-prostitution-charges-after-man-called-to-report-theft-of-phone-cash/[/URL].

Isn't this exciting news??

[URL]https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/milwaukee/2018/03/06/hiv-syphilis-clusters-affecting-least-125-people-including-high-school-students-discovered-milwaukee/397534002/[/URL]

[QUOTE=JimmyChitWood;3750772]How stupid can a dude get? [URL]http://fox6now.com/2018/03/05/man-2-others-face-prostitution-charges-after-man-called-to-report-theft-of-phone-cash/[/URL].[/QUOTE]This one is red flag city! Having 3 strangers over at the same time? Being in bed with 2 of them while the third can wander throughout the house? Leaving your expensive work I-phone laying around to be scooped up? Letting the hooker leave the house with the money before the act has taken place? Or calling the police to report your illegal activity? LMAO.

[URL]http://fox6now.com/2018/03/07/man-admits-to-homicide-says-he-beat-prostitute-with-metal-pipe-stabbed-her-as-she-begged-for-her-life/[/URL]

[QUOTE=DaddyForYou;3752323][URL]http://fox6now.com/2018/03/07/man-admits-to-homicide-says-he-beat-prostitute-with-metal-pipe-stabbed-her-as-she-begged-for-her-life/[/URL][/QUOTE]The oldest profession, and probably the deadliest. This is where I would normally go on a harm reduction legalization / normalization rant, but what's the point.

[QUOTE=DaddyForYou;3752323][URL]http://fox6now.com/2018/03/07/man-admits-to-homicide-says-he-beat-prostitute-with-metal-pipe-stabbed-her-as-she-begged-for-her-life/[/URL][/QUOTE]Of a house that I own last summer. One of my tenants talked to her and invited her to stay with her but the girl had other fish to fry. I never met her personally, but my tenant called me up all freaked out when she heard the news. Even though the girl was turning tricks, she was apparently a pretty nice kid.

Remember, from our side we're looking for some head or to get pissed on or to stick our tongues in some strange woman's booty hole, or whatever the fuck your wife, girlfriend, sister won't let you do at home. To these girls they're facing this shit, getting shot, beaten, STDs, or putting up with some nasty sex act they can't stand, but will put up with so they can feed their kids, their pimps, their habits, or their pimps's habits.

It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye.

Coochie (this takes all the fun out of this game) Eater.

God bless us all.

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