2000-2004 Archived Reports

El Cajon City action:

It's good to hear the action has picked up there. I may go there soon. I am reluctant however, because the action is usually not that good and it is a hassle to drive out there.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by nigel jones
[i]Just back from a visit to OT in Escondido (I am a traveler from the Southeast US). Saw Angie, had a wonderful session, she really got into it, so to speak. I would recommend seeing her if you had the chance. [/i][/QUOTE]Ok, it sounds like the old standbys are Joanna and Kay and the two new girls might be Angie and Janet. I should get there this weekend for sure.

Nigel,
Can you provide any other info on Angie? Such as age, body type, tip amount etc? I will do the same after I visit.

With reference to the recent posts about Lulu at Unique Bodyworks in Kearny Mesa: For those of you that may remember the now-departed Royal Spa in KM, Lulu worked there under the name "Pearl". She is now the owner of Unique. Good lokking, nice personality, but service has gone down a notch since her Royal Spa days.

Just a post on a fictional encounter at OT in escondido:

Angie, about 30 yo, b-cup (hard to guess with asians) had a nice CBJ (condom in mouth trick - almost thought it was BBBJ) and then she sat on me in an interesting position. tip was 150 - but was never discussed ?too much?

She was begging me to come back the next day while massaging my zipper area while i departed.

Overall, I left rather satisfied
(this is a purely fictional account for reader enjoyment)

nigel- nice of you to tip that much- but it is wayyyy too much. And people wonder why prices are going up.. geesh.5

five,

Sorry that I am contributing to hobby inflation in your area. As you know, being from the bible-belt, the tip I provided was customary around here. Next time I will have to haggle a bit.

Have another Fictional encounter to report at OT.

Mamasan wanted to give me Kay, I said no thanks, wanted a new girl. I asked for Janet but she didn't seem to understand, said Angie would massage me.

Angie came in, upper 20's to lower 30's. Nice body, probably real B's. She got right down to business, I believe someone earlier was looking for a moaner, she might do.

She didn't have any massage skills to write about, but knew the business.

They were busy so hopefully someone can post a story about the other girl.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by elgatogordo
[i]With reference to the recent posts about Lulu at Unique Bodyworks in Kearny Mesa: For those of you that may remember the now-departed Royal Spa in KM, Lulu worked there under the name "Pearl". She is now the owner of Unique. Good lokking, nice personality, but service has gone down a notch since her Royal Spa days. [/i][/QUOTE]

Shit! I can't believe I didn't recognize her, but now that you mention it... I had a couple sessions with her at RS (those were the days). She used to romp pretty wildly with me and then give me a massage afterwards. I wonder if reminding her would help the service.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by purplengold
[i]Shit! I can't believe I didn't recognize her, but now that you mention it... I had a couple sessions with her at RS (those were the days). She used to romp pretty wildly with me and then give me a massage afterwards. I wonder if reminding her would help the service. [/i][/QUOTE]She actually has lost some weight and changed her hair, so its not surprising you did not recognize her. The first time I saw her at Unique, we reminisced about the RS days. I agree with you, she was wild and excellent at RS and was one of my favorities there. She likely will give you unlimited service now if she remembers you, but her wildness has pretty much disappeared. Oh well, I guess that's what happens as we get older!!

I have some business with a few client in No co of San Diego - around Oceanside. Are there any action around this area?

Thinking about going to see LuLu again and wanted to partake in some extra stuff.. do you guys who have seen her before when she was at RS think that if I "recognized" her from there it would help with getting more? Just wondering. 5

[QUOTE]Originally posted by five
[i]Thinking about going to see LuLu again and wanted to partake in some extra stuff.. do you guys who have seen her before when she was at RS think that if I "recognized" her from there it would help with getting more? Just wondering. 5 [/i][/QUOTE]Fiveman, it can't hurt, although my guess is that such "recognition" won't be required if she knows you from a previous visit at Unique. My sense is she's not too uptight.

Good luck!

Five,

Can't hurt. If she asks you what you did, you can make up shit. I never got the backdoor, but everything else was on the menu.

Now that RS was brought up, I keep reliving glory days in my mind and was wondering if anyone knows what happened to any of the other girls. Specifically, I was thinking of Angel (about 5'6" shoulder length light brown hair, a tad pudgy with nice real C cups). She was even better than Lulu because she could be tender or wild depending on my mood (Lulu was always just wild)

BTW, I saw Joanne at OA in Escondido. Had the typically great session, but the interesting thing is that she said business has been slow. This is odd considering all the talk about OA that's hit this board recently. I talked with her about this message board, and promised to give her a good word. Don't know if it was that she knows me by now or that she was hoping that the good word might be great, but she actually handed me some of my tip money back before she hugged me as I was leaving. YMMV, because, like I said, she knows me. Anyway, guys, this place is great and worth visiting. Joanne's a sweetheart and will give you a great session. Stay away from Kay because she's a bit old, pushy and mechanical. And, there are two new girls who need to be reviewed. So, lets help these ladies out in the trying times of this stiff (pun intended) economy!

Trying to get some info for you all, I had asked mamasan about the new girls, but she said they were unavailable. Asked about May and got a "She no work here any more," but no info on where she went.

Does anyone have good experiences finding BBBJ or backdoor at an AMP around here? FS is a no brainer but I'm getting tired of the CBJ and balloon polka.

If you are worried about burning someone you can send to tired_driver@yahoo.com

Thanks

BTW: I am an OT convert, great place. Such a damn drive though its like driving to SmelLA

BBBJ is available from Q at Minato, but the prices she wants now are higher than average.

Backdoor is available from Joanne in Escondido.

BBBJ also available from Joanne at OT. I second Purple on her service. I have always had a great time with Joanne, plus she gives a nice massage while you're on your stomach.

While Angie has been reviewed, still waiting on info on the other new girl. The place was really busy last time I was there, can't believe it has been slow.

I'm curious as to why everyone talks about OT and not some place like OA in PB. Is service that much better at OT? Never been to OT myself

Thanks to you guys for taking the time to read and retype "Penthouse Letters". I just can't get enough of that erotic fiction.

I will get to work on a few stories of my own.

carpe noctem

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dave_far
[i]I'm curious as to why everyone talks about OT and not some place like OA in PB. Is service that much better at OT? Never been to OT myself [/i][/QUOTE]

OA is the one on Garnet with the big sign out front, right? Or are you referring to Eva, on Cass? There are two more that I know of in PB--One next to Weinerschnitzel (sp?) and another on Grand.

Assuming the first, my experiences haven't been stellar. One girl refused to give up more than a lackluster cbj. Another, an older pinay, went all the way, but kept asking me if I was LE even after penetration--too distracting. My opinion is that place is just too paranoid, and not worth the time it would take to be trusted.

Eva's will get you decent service, but the ladies are old enough to be the grandmothers of some of the older mongers on this board.

You can read an older report of mine (early January) concerning the one next to Weinerschnitzel. That was my fault for asking for the wrong girl instead of Jackie, but I haven't been back: shell shock.

The one on Grand was even more paranoid than The one on Garnet, and all I got was a HJ. As I was leaving, the lady was saying: "Don't tell anyone, allright? Other girls don't do this..." Never went back.

So, though I've never been with Jackie, in general, I'd say OT in Escondido is much better service.

Hope this helps,
P&G

Boys- thanks for the suggestions on LuLu- I appreciate it. I do have to suck it up and drive to Esco one of these days- such a long trip from El Cajon tho. 5

I've always had good luck at OA in PB. Tiffany used to be there for awhile. While she was a piece of work personality-wise, I always got good service (but not FS from her). She's now at Minato. I was just at OA about a week ago and got good service (BBBJ but again not FS) from Connie.

Excellent BBBJ used to be available from Jennifer at Minato, but I don't know if she works there anymore. I agree 100% with the posts about the place in PB near Wienerschnitzel (its Crystal Spa) and the one on Grand. IMO, they are to be avoided.

Thanks Yeah, I was referring to the one on Garnet. I haven't seen Eva on Cass. I'll have to take a look around. I thought the place on Grand was actually a legit place that provided nothing even though it looks real real shady.

Have had a hard time getting over to OT to check out the new girls, last week the wife got frisky and I actually got my bi-annual BJ so I was good for awhile.

Had an opportunity yesterday and took it without calling first. Doh! Only Joanne and Kay available. "new girl be here tomorrow" mamasan said. Doh!

I took Joanne and had the usual time. Tried the backdoor, but P&G must be special because she said "oh, I never do that!". Allowed play though.

Still an okay time, but wasted my monthly visit and didn't get to see anything new. Bummer.

- Slim

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Slim
[i]Have had a hard time getting over to OT to check out the new girls, last week the wife got frisky and I actually got my bi-annual BJ so I was good for awhile.[/i][/QUOTE]

And then they wonder why we hobby. Ever seen the movie "*****"? At one point, the leading lady says something like "If they're not sticking it in their wife's mouth, they're sticking it someone else's." How true.

[QUOTE][i]I took Joanne and had the usual time. Tried the backdoor, but P&G must be special because she said "oh, I never do that!". Allowed play though.[/i][/QUOTE]

I don't know whether to feel special or not. My first visit to OT was with Joanne and she gave it up to me without any special ceremony (read: bargaining). I just played with it a little during the massage, put a little oil there later and she never said anything about it as I banged away. Maybe I wore her out ;)

[QUOTE][i]Still an okay time, but wasted my monthly visit and didn't get to see anything new. Bummer.[/i][/QUOTE]

Maybe it'll get better if they see you a couple times. Only once a month? Man, you are much more disciplined than I :)

Just had my second and final session with Angie at OT. After tonight I would have to rank Kay ahead of her. No GFE at all, very rushed, and all about the money.

I was hoping to sample the other new girl but apparently there is no other girl. The place seemed to be busy and maybe she was having a hard day with everyone declining Kay but she won't be getting anymore business from me.

I'll put in another plug for Joanna, she has always treated me well and now I know the grass isn't greener.

I was recently on business in SD and had the opportunity to cruise ECB. For the most part SD is essentially dead. I saw a few girls out, but very poor quality and I didn't waste my time.

However, I did witness a sting in progress and had the chance to watch the scum in action, and thought I would share my observations. Keep in mind how the cops operate in SD may not be the same in your area, but it does seem to be the case here. I also spoke to a fellow hobbyist, and he confirmed and added a few details beyond what I saw which I will also include here.

This sting happened Wednesday afternoon around 2 pm. It was being done in front of a run down motel 1 block east of Texas street on the north side of ECB. I saw this woman (decoy) standing on the corner. She was blonde, and dressed in sweats and tennis shoes. She is fairly good looking, better looking than the other girls further up on ECB that were true hookers. She was staying on the corner, unlike the other girls that were constantly walking up and down the blvd. She was fairly aggressively making eye contact and waving at guys. When the guys would pull to the curb she would go the driver's side of the car and talk to the guys. This is something NONE of the other girls would do. They usually just jump into the passenger seat without much discussion. (I have seen this several times). I saw several guys drive away after talking to her.

I was kind of suspicious so I did not approach her, although I did cruise around her area a couple of times and parked across the street on the other side of ECB to watch what was going on. At one point, it seemed that some guy had agreed to something and he pulled into the alley behind the motel. The girl walked up the block a little and disappeared in a adjacent parking lot. This seemed REALLY strange to me, so I start drive down, looked through the parking lot and sure enough, the guy was being arrested by SD's worst. There were 3 or 4 cops, one of them was talking to the girl. I drove around the block and there she was again on the same corner. The cop car was gone as was the guy. His car was parked in the parking lot.

After this I drove around just to see what would happen. After another arrest, another girl showed up on the corner, this time brunette with similar clothing. I didn't get a real good look as I decided to get the hell out of there.

A couple things can be learned from this, although some of us have learned this, it is worth repeating.

1. If the girl looks even marginally too good for what else is on the street, be VERY cautious. The blonde definitely looked better than the other girsl, I couldn't tell with the brunette.
2. Street girls, keep walking and do not stay in one place. These bitches were staying on the same corner.
3. The decoys were not as overtly dressed as other girls. You can't necessarily guarantee anything by this, but it should be a warning sign to be cautious.
4. The decoys NEVER got into the cars. This means if the girl refuses to get in, leave immediately. Make sure you NEVER, EVER discuss anything about money or activities until she is in the car and you have driven at least a block or two!!!! Those bitches wear wires and are recording every conversation. If you mention something even if you drive away you can and will be arrested (according to my new found buddy).
5. The street girls have become very discreet and leery. They will never overtly flag you down. They might be dressed as ******, but they won't act like they are trying to flag you down. If you see this, be very careful. It is probably a trap.
6. If you think you smell a trap, hang back and observe from a safe distance. Either cruise around the block at uneven intervals or park. Cops can't stop you for being in a legally parked car. Watch what is going on. If the girl who stays on a corner gets in the car, watch to see what happens. You may even want to drive the same general direction for a block or two just to make sure that no cops or flashing lights suddenly appear.
7. Drive around the general area and look for cop cars or side streets and alley ways where a bust could go down. This might help in trying to see if a fellow hobbyist gets nailed. It will most often be away from main view, but not far from the area the decoy is at. The cops don't want to be to far from the decoy in case the decoy gets into trouble and to prove the guys intent when he pulls into a driveway or alley way as she told him to. According to my friend, all the cops have to show for an arrest is intent and intent is indicated by doing what she indicates like "pull into the alley and I will meet you".
8. If by chance the girl is legit, albeit stupid by not walking around, and she drives away with a friendly competitor, don't worry, she will probably be back in a little while. There still may be other street options, or better yet, just wait until she gets back (20-50mins later).
9. If you are uncertain about a girl and there are no other real girls in the area where you might have seen some prior, be really careful. According to my friend the cops will clear out the general area of real girls to make sure the only alternative is the decoy (scum!). So if they disappear or there isn't an alternative be very very careful.
10. It may be worth cruising the street semi regularly to get a sense of who might be street girls. I cruised both Tuesday and Wednesday afternoons and saw the same 4 girls on both days - being picked up and coming back. None of them were worth the effort. The blond decoy I had never seen so while 2 days hardly constitutes being an expert, it did make me concerned.
11. Finally, be aware of your surroundings and what is going on around you. Don't do something supid while driving that will attract attention or worse yet, give the cops reason to pull you over. Be sure to watch in front, in back and on your sides. Always know where all the cars are and notice any weird movement that might be a cop. Again the key is cruise safely and don't give the cops any reason to pull you over. In case they do, make sure you have a good story.

Hope none of you got caught!! Hopefully these tips will help. Good luck, until I am back in SD on business!

aht169,

Great post. Keep 'em coming!

Jackson,

If you're watching, maybe this post should be elevated to an FAQ or something recurring so that it doesn't get buried over time.

[QUOTE]
2. Street girls, keep walking and do not stay in one place. These bitches were staying on the same corner. [/i][/QUOTE]

I think this is an EXCELLENT observation. I noticed the same thing watching COPS, or something similar. The police have to keep their decoy under surveillance, so she stands still or walks back and forth in a small area.

Real SW walk, that's what the W stands for!

ATH169, thanks for the GREAT post.

aht169

Excellent report.

I must say in all my years and years of mongering and experience, I have yet to be arrested. Been hassled a few times, but never arrested. Forgive me for saying so, but only an absolute FOOL, gets caught buying or paying for sex! If you're stupid enough to get caught by a decoy, I personally think you deserve it.

That being said, I take it one step further, when I know a decoy has been set (and there usually very easy to spot) I'll often approach them on foot and harass them, by being overly friendly. Walk up to them and start a general "how's the weather conversation." "What do you think about them Padres" You get the idea. I have in the past frustrated the hell out of decoys and the police running them, just play dumb, give them a little back. This lets them know they should be using OUR tax dollars to fight real crime. I truly have nothing against LE except for this issue, it's the world's oldest trade and is so for a reason.

"MEN NEED SEX, WE CANNOT FUNCTION WITHOUT IT, PERIOD! WE MUST HAVE SEX AND WILL DO ANYTHING INCLUDING PAYING OR TRADING FOR IT, EVEN COPS, ANY COP WHO ARRESTS ANOTHER MAN FOR SIMPLY SOLICITING FOR SEX IS ACTING OUT AS A HYPOCRITE!" We are all mongers!

I hate this BS act that these cops put on acting as if they are better then thou because, God forbid, they would never engage in this sort of activity. On a business trip to Vegas two years ago, I hung out with an old High school buddy who was a cop, he was attending a bachelor party weekend, mostly all cops, every last one of these guys paid for sex! i was there, i watched and learned, they are no better, nor, no worse then me. sex is sex, we all want it, we all need it, its natural, normal activity, a true gift of life and enforcing laws prohibiting two consensual adults from engaging in sex for $ is simply wrong and a waste of time@!
gettingtang2003@yahoo.com

[QUOTE]Originally posted by gettingtang
[i]That being said, I take it one step further, when I know a decoy has been set (and there usually very easy to spot) I'll often approach them on foot and harass them, by being overly friendly. Walk up to them and start a general "how's the weather conversation." "What do you think about them Padres" You get the idea. I have in the past frustrated the hell out of decoys and the police running them, just play dumb, give them a little back.[/i][/QUOTE]

LOL You give new meaning to the term wingman.

aht169

The cops have conducted stings at the motel east of Texas before, so beware. Although I did drop a off a real hooker there a while back. But just beware this tells you that the owners of the hotel are not prostitute friendly.

". Drive around the general area and look for cop cars or side streets and alley ways where a bust could go down. This might help in trying to see if a fellow hobbyist gets nailed. It will most often be away from main view, but not far from the area the decoy is at. The cops don't want to be to far from the decoy in case the decoy gets into trouble and to prove the guys intent when he pulls into a driveway or alley way as she told him to. According to my friend, all the cops have to show for an arrest is intent and intent is indicated by doing what she indicates like "pull into the alley and I will meet you". "

There is a state intent to solicit law. But I don't believe the cops enforce it. Cities like Oakland & Sacramento have enacted a civil
"intentl to solicit law". The cops have used this against girls whom are known prostitutes. The cops in San Diego are usually pretty low key. Most of the time they patrol officers usually pass through. On weekends the cops do step up enforcement and stop a lot cars especially gangbangers.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by hargow20
[i]On weekends the cops do step up enforcement and stop a lot cars especially gangbangers. [/i][/QUOTE]

Something that's always puzzled me and I was wondering if any lawyers in the crowd could explain how cops can do this kind of thing since it seems like a violation of search and seizure rights. I mean, they are just stopping cars at random (or all cars) without any reason other than their intuition. Same goes for DUI checkpoints.

I had a daydream about going to OT. I went something like this:

Late last week I found myself at OT. There were no "other girls" available just Joanne and Kay. I knew Kay well and decided to follow the path of other dreamers experiences and went with Joanne.

IMHO Kay is *MUCH* more attractive than Joanne. Kay's attitude and performance was *MUCH* better than Joanne. There was no bbbj or greek on the menu. Joanne was flexible and went with the flow most of the time as did Kay in previous dreams I had.

Bottom line I woke up regretting not going with Kay in my dream. What is the reason for the praise of Joanne over Kay amongst you dreamers? Am I missing something?

I will sleep again soon in hopes of dreaming up one of the new girls but right now Kay is #1 in my dream journal...

Any comments, explanations, shared dreams or friendly debates are welcome..

TiredD

Tired,

I think Kay and JoAnne will be liked/disliked differently by each person. Isn't YMMV the theme of this board?

There is no clear winner here. Both are fairly old although I think Kay us older. Kay's face is MUCH better, and she is thinner (almost too thin), but those fake boobs give me the willies.

I've seen Kay where she was quite wild and where she just kind of laid there and expected me to do all the work. JoAnne is more consistant with performance, she usually aims to please, but I've even had so-so sessions with her.

In both cases, I think the more you go and get to know them, the better the sessions become.

- Slim

how old are kay and joanne? approximate is fine. i plan to take one of them for a test drive this weekend.

I hate guessing, I'm bad at it. I would guess both are over 40, Kay may approach 50. You can only tell the age in their face though, like most asians, their bodies could easily pass for 10+ years younger than they are. Guys...correct me if you think I'm wrong. - Slim

Has anyone had any luck at the Kia Spa? I have not been there in a year or so but I do remember it was great back then.

Claptop... not much more than a rub-n-tug. Old and tired workers. It was better when Suzie was there but I don't think shes been around for over a year and a half. She was great to hang with (no pun intended).

TD

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Claptop
[i]Has anyone had any luck at the Kia Spa? I have not been there in a year or so but I do remember it was great back then. [/i][/QUOTE]