Ripoff Reports

All these recent reports about negative issues with Ashley, Red Dixie, Kate, Coberly, Bonnie, dudes masquerading as LE and robbing you! And then when you do find a gem it's almost impossible to find her again because most don't have cellies you can count on? I haven't been on the K for quite a while and I know it has it's problems in order to reap the rewards, but DAMN, it sounds like a lot more bad than good is going on. However, better that we know this crap is going down and thanks to the posters who have made us aware to be very cautious out there.

Me? I'm kind of glad I have been playing much more with sugar pussy. A lot more expensive for sure, but usually college-aged, good looking, clean, hard drug free, totally reliable, repeatable, responsive and fun. Bargains are nice but sometimes you do get what you pay for.

Met Cheryl on Clearfield on the way to get her dope she agreed to do a date which we discussed so off we go to do the date in a spot I picked. WE get to the spot and she asks for the money which I give her.

Then she starts complaining about having a dry mouth and telling me that the date would be so much better if she could cop some hard and get her a cold drink. I have no choice now unless I force her to suck my dick which she clearly wasnt going to do. So I ask her to give me my money back and she refuses and bolts out of my car and disappears down an alley. Another must to avoid another POS.

[QUOTE=Finn1972;4347620]Met Cheryl on Clearfield on the way to get her dope she agreed to do a date which we discussed so off we go to do the date in a spot I picked. WE get to the spot and she asks for the money which I give her.

Then she starts complaining about having a dry mouth and telling me that the date would be so much better if she could cop some hard and get her a cold drink. I have no choice now unless I force her to suck my dick which she clearly wasnt going to do. So I ask her to give me my money back and she refuses and bolts out of my car and disappears down an alley. Another must to avoid another POS.[/QUOTE]Your post is much appreciated. Great work getting the pic to go with it.

Over and over we see the same post dealing with the same issue. Guys getting ripped off because the women know you will not go to Johnny law. So what's a guy to do? First, you can stop living in your dream thinking she won't take advantage of you. She will. You aren't the first and won't be the last. You know why? Because right behind you is another guy as foolish if not more foolish than you. Don't believe me? Read the reports. None of us is Mr. Special to them. So stop thinking you are. You are as vulnerable as any of us. I don't care how handsome or how nice you are. She will do everything in her power to separate you and your cash for doing as little as possible as fast as possible. She will tell you everything you want to hear. They are very skilled manipulators. Understand the battle is half over once she's sitting beside you. Then all she needs is the money. It's up to you when and how she gets it. Until you stop giving your cash up front they are going to take you for everything they can get. I don't know the girl you are talking about. But your description says she's no different than all of them. Think about this for a moment. She already told everyone that will listen to her what an easy mark you are. She described you, said you are a dickhead and they all laughed at you about it. She described your car, and how much she got you for. Others are making plans to hit you again. Is that what you want?

Please allow me to offer some unasked for advice. Stop as of this moment giving them your hard earned cash up front. Tell them nobody gets paid till the job is done. Let them know they can thank their wonderful sisters for tieing the knot in that rope. This is the most important thing. Don't be so damned pussy drunk that you don't want to let them out and drive away as fast as you picked them up. Tell them things get done your way or no way.

There are girls that will work with you. Plenty of them. Just don't fuck them over and you will drive home happy. How often you get dicked up the ass is entirely up to you. If you like it then keep doing what you are doing. If not then only you can stop fucking yourself.

Just one more thing to seriously think about. You said, So I ask her to give me my money back and she refuses and bolts out of my car and disappears down an alley. What did you think she was going to do, throw your money back at you and walk away? Come on Pal. What fantasy are you living in thinking things are going to go your way once the money is in their hands? Get real. Here is something very simple to avoid this happening to you again. I honestly hope it never doesn't.

Always remember money is control in everything we do. As long as you have your money you have control. Give your money to anyone you give them control. Got it? Good. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[QUOTE=Gator145;4348409]Your post is much appreciated. Great work getting the pic to go with it.

Over and over we see the same post dealing with the same issue. Guys getting ripped off because the women know you will not go to Johnny law. So what's a guy to do? First, you can stop living in your dream thinking she won't take advantage of you. She will. You aren't the first and won't be the last. You know why? Because right behind you is another guy as foolish if not more foolish than you. Don't believe me? Read the reports. None of us is Mr. Special to them. So stop thinking you are. You are as vulnerable as any of us. I don't care how handsome or how nice you are. She will do everything in her power to separate you and your cash for doing as little as possible as fast as possible. She will tell you everything you want to hear. They are very skilled manipulators. Understand the battle is half over once she's sitting beside you. Then all she needs is the money. It's up to you when and how she gets it. Until you stop giving your cash up front they are going to take you for everything they can get. I don't know the girl you are talking about. But your description says she's no different than all of them. Think about this for a moment. She already told everyone that will listen to her what an easy mark you are. She described you, said you are a dickhead and they all laughed at you about it. She described your car, and how much she got you for. Others are making plans to hit you again. Is that what you want?

Please allow me to offer some unasked for advice. Stop as of this moment giving them your hard earned cash up front. Tell them nobody gets paid till the job is done. Let them know they can thank their wonderful sisters for tieing the knot in that rope. This is the most important thing. Don't be so damned pussy drunk that you don't want to let them out and drive away as fast as you picked them up. Tell them things get done your way or no way.

There are girls that will work with you. Plenty of them. Just don't fuck them over and you will drive home happy. How often you get dicked up the ass is entirely up to you. If you like it then keep doing what you are doing. If not then only you can stop fucking yourself.

Just one more thing to seriously think about. You said, So I ask her to give me my money back and she refuses and bolts out of my car and disappears down an alley. What did you think she was going to do, throw your money back at you and walk away? Come on Pal. What fantasy are you living in thinking things are going to go your way once the money is in their hands? Get real. Here is something very simple to avoid this happening to you again. I honestly hope it never doesn't.

Always remember money is control in everything we do. As long as you have your money you have control. Give your money to anyone you give them control. Got it? Good. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.[/QUOTE]Truer words were never written. Thanks, Gator.

LD.

[QUOTE=Mackeral1;4149187]
So what are the lessons learned? Never think your skills will keep you safe. This is not a safe area, always a risk, always a danger. Never forget to follow the 23 golden rules of mongering. Situational awareness. Always know who is around you. If you are being watched, if you are being followed. Always scope out a SW. Does she have a shadow, is a handler watching. Never park at a location that a SW directs you to.

I got off lucky, I could easily have been killed right there on the spot. 20 years of hard earned street awareness and this was the first issue. It can happen to anyone, any time. Be careful out there!![/QUOTE]Yea I learned that the hard way a few months ago. I went to the block she directed us to. Deal Street.

It turns out she LIVES on that block. Proceeded to BeeJay then kept stopping, then got mad when I told her to stop.

Honestly it was one of the worst I've ever had.

She said something like "Its like I'm blowing you twice. I'll have to charge you another $20".

I stopped her right there. Mind you this is all in the span of 5 minutes.

I Handed her the money and told her to bounce.

She tried to start a fight of it and said "stay right here! Don't try to leave!

Then ran to her house about half way down the block.

I tried to pull off but it was a dead end. Only the people living there know this.

Making a you-Turn there got mud all over my truck. I was PISSED.

As I drove past her house she came running out trying to memorize my plate.

I forget her name, she was a Blonde off Jasper and Castor area.

I broke one of my own rules: don't pick these chicks up during the Afternoon.

Found chunky Erica at corner of Jasper & Sargent. I have a thing for chunky, not fat, younger looking ladies. She was decent looking. During the drive to the spot, she started to run my leg and placing her arms in weird, distorting positions. I leaned on my center console to hear a click and her free hand moving away quickly.

I called her out on it and she did the "I know you saw me, but I'll continually argue that I wasn't trying to rip you off" routine. I wanted to dump her ass off, but knew I was going to need to pay her to get her out of the car, so I might as well get head for that money.

All during the BJ, I could feel her rummaging my pants, like I would be a dumbass to keep anything in them. She was pretty fucking persistent. When I dropped her off and she was out of the car, I told her I knew what she was up to and I would spread the wood here. So there it is.

Fuck Erica.

[QUOTE=ActionMan609;4494381]Found chunky Erica at corner of Jasper & Sargent. I have a thing for chunky, not fat, younger looking ladies. She was decent looking. During the drive to the spot, she started to run my leg and placing her arms in weird, distorting positions. I leaned on my center console to hear a click and her free hand moving away quickly.

I called her out on it and she did the "I know you saw me, but I'll continually argue that I wasn't trying to rip you off" routine. I wanted to dump her ass off, but knew I was going to need to pay her to get her out of the car, so I might as well get head for that money.

All during the BJ, I could feel her rummaging my pants, like I would be a dumbass to keep anything in them. She was pretty fucking persistent. When I dropped her off and she was out of the car, I told her I knew what she was up to and I would spread the wood here. So there it is.

Fuck Erica.[/QUOTE]What does she look like?

[QUOTE=RoboPimp;4501714]What does she look like?[/QUOTE]Yeah, what good is her name? Tell us what she looks like, brother.

Not feeling too confident about seeing anyone lately and I figured some of the ladies might also be feeling the effects of decreased mongers so I reached out to a few to see if they would make some personal videos for me.

Ripoffs.

Pebbles in Mt Laurel. I asked for one vid and she made it so I paid for a second vid with her gf going down on her. Paid $80 and no vid. Multiple messages later still no vid.

South Philly Irish sub! Fetish. Same thing. Asked for a toy show video. Paid $50. No video.

Ashely (and Sammie) Cherry Hill. Paid $50 - no vid.

I know. They are not reliable and should have expected this. Still figured that they wouldn't scam me at this alarming a rate.

[QUOTE=TAway612;4738227]Not feeling too confident about seeing anyone lately and I figured some of the ladies might also be feeling the effects of decreased mongers so I reached out to a few to see if they would make some personal videos for me.

Ripoffs.

Pebbles in Mt Laurel. I asked for one vid and she made it so I paid for a second vid with her gf going down on her. Paid $80 and no vid. Multiple messages later still no vid.

South Philly Irish sub! Fetish. Same thing. Asked for a toy show video. Paid $50. No video.

Ashely (and Sammie) Cherry Hill. Paid $50 - no vid.

I know. They are not reliable and should have expected this. Still figured that they wouldn't scam me at this alarming a rate.[/QUOTE]WAY too easy to get scammed whenever you pay $ before receiving goods / services. It's always my hard and fast rule to not do it. If one ever did do it, though, probably a good idea to stop after getting scammed the first time, and not continue trying 2 more times.

[QUOTE=Socalcasualguy;4738672]WAY too easy to get scammed whenever you pay $ before receiving goods / services. It's always my hard and fast rule to not do it. If one ever did do it, though, probably a good idea to stop after getting scammed the first time, and not continue trying 2 more times.[/QUOTE]You're right and I was thinking with my little head. What I don't get is some of these girls have (on the road to not having) good reputations.

I'll write them up on every board.

I have to believe that things are drying up as more and more people are wary of the pandemic.

[QUOTE=TAway612;4738815]You're right and I was thinking with my little head. What I don't get is some of these girls have (on the road to not having) good reputations.

I'll write them up on every board.

I have to believe that things are drying up as more and more people are wary of the pandemic.[/QUOTE]But there are a LOT more street walkers. Its a Buyers Market.

Fuck these stankin hoes.

One got me last year. Never again.

[QUOTE=Socalcasualguy;4738672]WAY too easy to get scammed whenever you pay $ before receiving goods / services. It's always my hard and fast rule to not do it. If one ever did do it, though, probably a good idea to stop after getting scammed the first time, and not continue trying 2 more times.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. Its a shame you got burned for your money. But it wasn't a total loss. You bought an education. There's something positive that comes from it. It's best to think in this game everyone you make contact with will screw you over. Because given the proper conditions they will. It's been proven time and time again.

I have no doubt your intentions was honorable. Just look at the elements you are dealing with. What are their intentions? Their intent is to get as much money from us as they can for doing as little as they need to do as quickly as possible. Then they move on tho the next one. That is what we need to compute. Not real difficult to understand.

I always look at the situation this way. If you give a girl in this business your funds up front what incentive is there for her not to screw you over? She's accomplished her goal. She has what she wants. Once she sees the green the wheels begin to turn. She's thinking wow that was easy. I've said it before, never give any of these girls your funds till you have what you want. Always be ready to walk away from any deal that you are not in complete control of. Money in this game is control. The control passes to the person you gave your funds to. Agreed? Lose your money you lose control. Then anything can and will happen. Every girl in this game knows this first hand. They talk about it among themselves.

If you can't walk away knowing you will find another girl then you don't belong in the game. It's the people that pay up front that create the problem. They will blame the girl every time but it's them. Guys that can't focus on anything past what's in front of them. So they throw caution and safety to the wind. Then they lose the game. If everyone put their foot down and said No More then the rip offs would come to a screeching halt. Plain and simple.

Don't be the person that screws yourself. Don't place that dick in your own ass on the way out the door. I assume your money comes as hard to you as mine comes to me. NEVER EVER give a girl in this game front money. Simply tell her when you get what you are paying for the funds come after. She may say she doesn't do it that way. She's been screwed to many times.

Tell her you are sorry she's been taken advantage of but so have you, So now you set the rules. Stick to it. Tell her she's welcome to find another client that will do things her way. You do things your way. Then if she goes move on. Remember if she leaves and you move on you are going with your funds still in your pocket. So who's the winner here? Me I'm just an 'OL Gator.

[QUOTE=TAway612;4738227]Not feeling too confident about seeing anyone lately and I figured some of the ladies might also be feeling the effects of decreased mongers so I reached out to a few to see if they would make some personal videos for me.

Ripoffs.

Pebbles in Mt Laurel. I asked for one vid and she made it so I paid for a second vid with her gf going down on her. Paid $80 and no vid. Multiple messages later still no vid.

South Philly Irish sub! Fetish. Same thing. Asked for a toy show video. Paid $50. No video.

Ashely (and Sammie) Cherry Hill. Paid $50 - no vid.

I know. They are not reliable and should have expected this. Still figured that they wouldn't scam me at this alarming a rate.[/QUOTE]I don't care how good a picture looks, any advertisement that asks for $ upfront I automatically move to the next advertisement even if it is an escort who wants a little donation upfront to supposedly reserve an incall time slot.

Also, many of these ads it is really adult MALES behind the person who posted the advertisement and who is communicating with you.

If you're into the camming thing there are dedicated websites for that and even then you need to be careful. Generally speaking, any advertisements for cam shows or ads asking for $ upfront on a escort website is a scam. They're fishing for all the horney gullible men who will just fork over money.

Well, 2+ years into this hobby I've had some not great experiences (ghosted, chick 30 lbs heavier or 20 years older) but never robbed, caught, arrested etc.

I was seeing someone in the western suburbs. Set in up, incall, get there. She seems to be stalling, asking the same question twice, checking her phone etc. Then the knock "hotel security". She 'protests' opens the door. Young guy, maybe 6' with a clipboard, bandana and ear piece. She disappears out into the hallway as I get dressed (was down to underwear and tshirt) and he walks me to the elevator. She's gone. I don't say a thing.

I go down a floor, to the steps and out the side entrance. Out $ one twenty.

I'm pretty sure she reads this forum so if any senior member wants to know who specifically DM me.