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For everyone's convenience, here are girls OneInch has reviewed. Of the girls I also saw, he described them very accurately. That doesn't mean you'd agree with his review or mine, but to the degree you agree with one you'll probably agree with the other.
[B]Quirky Keily, Cheney, Shelby, Jenny, White, Jane[/B]:
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31240-Asian-PLEASER-discussion-forum-(please-post-reviews-in-the-review-forum)&p=7699726#post7699726[/URL] Multi-Girl
[B]Bahar, Rina, Sua, Tori, Nadia[/B] (Bahar and Rina still in OC):
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31240-Asian-PLEASER-discussion-forum-(please-post-reviews-in-the-review-forum)&p=7586103#post7586103[/URL] Multi-Girl
[B]Rayne, Hera, Ariana, Kona, Peach, Stella, White[/B]:
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31240-Asian-PLEASER-discussion-forum-(please-post-reviews-in-the-review-forum)&p=7581796&viewfull=1#post7581796[/URL] Multi-Girl
I describe [B]Mariel, Isabella V, Olivia, and Cheney[/B] here:
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37370-Asian-Rosters-Reviews-Guides&p=7698902&viewfull=1#post7698902[/URL] 8/17 OC
OneInch has a different POV and taste than me but there's plenty of overlap. So it means that one reader might relate to his reviews more, while another reviewer might relate to mine more. Or, a third reader might not be like either of us but could still compare reviews to get new Intel.
[B]Triangulation for Intel[/B]
This allows for [B]Triangulation[/B], where you first certify individual reviewers through multiple reviews and then compare between them on other reviews. For example, I see he described Cheney, Shelby, and Jenny perfectly well so I take his review of Keily, White, and Jane at full face value. I can then do the same with another reviewer like MisterD who has done the same with a different set of girls. Now, I have new Intel by seeing where they agree and disagree. If you relate to my reviews, you could use me as a second reviewer to compare against.
This lets you discover new facts that either reviewer will miss, like options they don't do whether rimming, cim, msog, etc.. There are things either of us won't try so we won't know. He even described very specific details about the girls that other friends told me, even though I myself never saw or said them. That is the Gold Standard of Intel, when two far apart people who don't know each other produce the same detailed facts. About msog:
[B]MSOG and YMMV[/B]
[QUOTE=OneInchPumper;7697579]I do a lot of multi our sessions. Usually hard for me to get more than 1 pop in an hour. I never pay MSOG fees with multi hour sessions usually the girl for me will read the room / reach down and see when I am ready again.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I've never paid msog for multi-hour. For that matter, "no msog" girls generally let me go msog for a tip. If I know they're hesitant, I offer them double the usual (100 for msog rather than 50) or otherwise negotiate. I never pressure them, I simply ask.
In this way, I could msog from no msog girls. It's probably because they enjoyed things and I asked nicely with no pressure or expectation. If some other guy said "she didn't let me", I believe them too.
[I]On repeats[/I], if a girl likes you she might not keep it transactional. If there was no appointment after, some girls kept me 70 minutes while others kept me 2 hours. It's rare. But I noticed when friends saw them, this usually did not happen to them. One girl even told me she deliberately blocked off her schedule so I was free to stay as long as I wanted. All day if necessary. This was my 2nd time seeing her so it made me a bit nervous. I thought she just wanted to chat and get to know me. No! She wanted to fuck and fuck. Even when I could not fuck any more, she kept fucking me well past the hour. No one else I knew got this treatment. That is what I call true ymmv.
Other people I knew said she was very good, and in fact when she went East Cost people would hop on the plane or train for hours to see her. Never seen anything like it.
Whereas, on a repeat visit I booked one girl 2 hours and it made her a bit nervous. She asked "What I was going to do to her". I was a bit taken aback, and I tell her it's not like that at all. I'm only going to do whatever she likes and it's up to her. When you make a girl feel safe and comfortable with good communication, she may let you go to town. It ended up a non-stop fuck fest, and I made sure to repeat her as much as my body could handle. When enough guys show up with this approach, those girls gain confidence and start giving actual better service.
Other topics described by OneInch:
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31130-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7587554&viewfull=1#post7587554[/URL] Duos
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37370-Asian-Rosters-Reviews-Guides&p=7595623&viewfull=1#post7595623[/URL] OTC
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31240-Asian-PLEASER-discussion-forum-(please-post-reviews-in-the-review-forum)&p=7600175#post7600175[/URL] Japan Soaplands
[QUOTE=OneInchPumper;7595623]I do really enjoy my OTC but it really isn't for the weak willed or the type of people to continuing to throw money away if they can't afford it. As you mentioned it really leads to Doom. All of my long term OTC have ended the same way and it is with them requesting more and more money. Things to note is that these girls profession is to show you their good side and seduce. There will always be a sob story and a good reason they will give you to give them more money. They are very good at manipulating feelings. One thing I remind my self is that the relationships I have built with ATF's and taken out on OTC's is not real.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, this is exactly it. Just pay for each time you see a girl, fair and square. You can go your separate ways at any point. Ignore her requests for extra money, just change the subject or don't respond or acknowledge. A few jgirls tried this on me so I simply ignore them. Later, they started offering me things for free instead. I could resume our relationship normally. I hope that is self-explanatory. So have some self-respect and you will do better with women.
To recap:
[QUOTE=Download X;7595552]I will dump a few tips here. Most of these are about staying safe and avoiding drama.
[B]The Friend Code[/B]
Last year, My friend told me the most amazing thing. He said he had an incredible repeat experience with his ATF, his GOAT. But he added that he couldnt shake off this strange feeling. The feeling that she wouldnt be doing all this for him if he wasnt paying her.
I was stunned silent. He asked for my opinion on the matter, but I declined to comment. Hell have to figure it out.
[B]The Good Side[/B]
Girls only show you their good side. They're supposed to. Even civvie women do the same. If you get too close and expect too much, you always see their bad side. It is so predictable, nearly every veteran has experienced it. For that reason, just be a happy butterfly floating from flower to flower.
All year long friends run into this same problem over and over. You cannot fix a girl, you can only break yourself.
[B]The Professionals[/B]
Hostesses or room girls in particular, you'll never have enough money for them. Their training is to extract money from men, and they struggle to break that habit even in another context.
Years later you'll wonder why you offered them so much. You are only useful to them until you aren't. So, just see them normally because then you tend to get what you paid for. The other way is high risk and disappointment.
[B]The Doom[/B]
Many times, I've thought of writing an OTC guide. But every time, I realized I would only be sending guys to their doom.
The veterans who manage, they've crashed and burned hard before they figured out what to do. That's what it is.
I've written out about 10 PSAs basically saying "don't date but if you do at least do this". I warn of disappointment and danger. Best I can do.[/QUOTE]
I guess if I can't stop my friends from falling in love with jgirls and kgirls, I could also warn the girls to stop trying the same:
[QUOTE=Download X;7698792]That reminds me. If a girl is really going to marry a guy, it should be a guy who is very emotionally mature and respectful. Probably someone boring to her. Those matches tend to last because they just want a peaceful life of stability. Reliability. Or, it's a guy so new he doesn't even belong using korgs or corgs and will quit soon anyways. She runs off with him and even if it doesn't work out, he still helps her sincerely. There is little in-between. Everything else is generally fraud and the mask comes off later. The woman's mask comes off of course, but she was only expecting one mask not two.[/QUOTE]
So many friends I know go to Japan and tell me they found a girl they're crazy about. But I tell them, if you paid for her pussy then others are doing the same and you'll never get anything better from her than they have. But on the upside, you found a girl you really like and could just..keep paying for her pussy each time?
If I really like a girl, I take her sightseeing or to lunch. No problem. Although I notice if I take her to dinner, it is closer to The Doom.
It's best if you just float from flower to flower like a Happy Butterfly.
[B]Legend of the Happy Butterfly[/B]
Some guys are the Happiest Butterflies, because they just want a new girl every time. They don't need us at all.
The Friend Code, The Good Side, The Professionals, The Doom, Legend of the Dragon Balls, Bad Reception, Walking, The Oath:
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37370-Asian-Rosters-Reviews-Guides&p=7595552&viewfull=1#post7595552[/URL] Multi-Tips
Chinese Level, Doxy, Grooming, Daty (Eating pussy), Foreplay, Strategy, Non Reviewers, The Nest, Norcal
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37370-Asian-Rosters-Reviews-Guides&p=7698792&viewfull=1#post7698792[/URL] Multi-Tips
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?35949-Agency-Discussion-and-Reviews&p=7680327&viewfull=1#post7680327[/URL] 001 and health
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7563967&viewfull=1#post7563967[/URL] Doxy Pep
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37370-Asian-Rosters-Reviews-Guides&p=7697171&viewfull=1#post7697171[/URL] Shibuya Galaxy
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?37370-Asian-Rosters-Reviews-Guides&p=7698961&viewfull=1#post7698961[/URL] CAKD Dani
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?36179-Japanese-girl-provider-in-OC&p=7699605&viewfull=1#post7699605[/URL] Mayu J
There is a lot of interest in Doxy. It is a best-fit for someone who has not yet done bb (or has compeletely cleared using antibitics). It is not meant for people who are already deep in bb land. People already deep in bb land should instead get regular testing and when they quit get full treated with the 3-antibiotic combo:
[B]Doxy[/B]
For Doxy-PEP options, I'll list examples that people have used. [B]Shameless Care, Wisp, www.alldaychemist.com, heymistr.com[/B]
It is the opinion of several STD clinic doctors that [U]PrEP[/U] for HIV is not necessary for most of us, unless you regularly participate in unprotected anal sex or intravenous drug use. Whereas [U]Doxy-PEP[/U] for bacteria greatly mitigates your risk, but doesn't eliminate all risk..I'll note that these options give peace of mind. There can also be a strategic use of doxy-PEP if you have already just been treated and 'cleared', and are going back in to bb land again. It can keep your clear streak going much longer.
I will get cleared when taking on a new partner..Whereas with girls who offer bb normally, there's no point getting clear unless you have symptoms or a positive test. Instead, I wrote out 001 to 003 guides for that strategy. They can keep yourself clear for as long as you are satisfied with that route.
[B]Ads and Face[/B]
[QUOTE=Opi7001;7694694]I doubt they will ever do real face. I think that is too much to ask.[/QUOTE]
This is important for safety reasons. Ads are not going to have real face without some filtering.
When it comes to face, other cities had problems with safety, stalking, or harassment (but it is rare). Even though it doesn't always happen, just the possibility or remembering some incident months or years ago is why. I will say it's more important for the younger girls. Some older girls are veterans who know how to handle things and are more comfortable with it.
Strippers are okay with real face ads, but strip clubs each have their own procedure if a girl needs extra help. It works Strip clubs also add security cameras - most point outside rather than inside.
Body photos without tattoos work well, and it's what a lot of guys care about anyways. These days you can remove tattoos with AI editing easily in seconds, leaving the body accurate other than the tattoo removal.
I'll demo AI editing. Attached is a demo of tattoo removal using model Go Mal Sook. While we're at it, we added MMs. The beauty of editing rather than creating from scratch is 80% of the girl is exactly her. Just the bikini parts and tattoos are changed. Another is minjji8, a body model for Monet. Then there are Gsu, Seb, DGR, and more. Tattoo removal and lookalikes are just two tools when you can't get accurate ads. You could say it is our way of passively saying when an ad isn't close enough. Of course, an accurate original ad is better. I'll also throw in Level 1 Jgirl Teeth, on a scale of 1 to 5. If you ever hear me warn, it'll be Level 3 or higher.
I don't know the best editor these days, but Deepswap and many others work okay. Better ones keep coming out.
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[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?35949-Agency-Discussion-and-Reviews&p=7680327&viewfull=1#post7680327[/URL] [B]001-003 Condoms, Health Guide[/B]
Below is an LA guide. Just ignore if you aren't interested. Be aware of traffic - early morning is a bit better to avoid the return traffic. It can really suck, but it's the way to double your harem if you are really into specific girls. To avoid being late, you want to show up early. Parking tends to be easy during daytime, just pay attention to the posted rules. At night time, you may have to park further.
[B]LA Options[/B]
For GFE guys, see the LA GFE thread or section on [B]Ng[/B] (Nggg), [B]Subin[/B], and [B]Janey[/B]. If you like petite girls, [B]Nali[/B], [B]Tiana[/B], [B]Crystal[/B]. Make sure you coach and tell them what you like, for better service. It's one factor why HYA Hunters get actual better service (it is not imaginary). The Lizza Guide is another reason. [B]Goeun[/B] and [B]Yuna[/B] are also popular. If you really like jgirls, [B]Maya J[/B]. There are other options and "backup good" girls for variety, but from the OC POV you wouldn't drive to LA for them.
Strategically, Nali (aka Mali), Crystal (aka Bona), and probably Maya J are LA only. So they are "exclusive" to LA. Nali and Crystal are long tour, so you could wait a few months but it's not forever. Tiana and Janey (aka FA Ms Angel) tour multi-city so you could wait and hope it happens. [B]Aqua[/B] (aka Zoey) will sometimes pop in to OC, but it can be tricky because if OC is suddenly flooded with skinny girls they end up splitting the interest of Skinny Hunters. Then she leaves early. For those who missed out on Cupid, [B]Rayne[/B] is in some ways a younger and more DTF version of her. So either one is good for variety if you really liked the other.
[B]LA Descriptions[/B]
[B]Baby Aqua[/B] - B cup MMs, late 20s, very skinny, nice ass that feels great, pussy is good. Good bbbj skills, enjoys sex. Easy rec if you like skinny. Body feels great. As with HYA, I'm pretty sure service and vibe depend on compatibility. I vibed with her, so everything was great. Popular among HYA Hunters. Last I saw her, she had long black hair with some blonde highlights.
[URL]https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/baby-aqua[/URL] Aqua
[URL]https://get9irl.com/BabyAqua[/URL] Aqua
[URL]https://kbeautygirls.com/baby-aqua2[/URL] Aqua
[B]Crystal[/B] - Has looks and service, 5'3, C tits, great sensitive nipples, very skinny, tanned, dyed long hair in-between brown and blonde. Skilled and able to deepthroat all the way, more than many MILFs. Many other skills by request, so let her know what you like. Open to shower bang for example, but she randomly initiates it so just ask if you prefer. Nice style, tits feel great especially during riding. Tits are MMs of similar style to Nali. Enjoys DATY, DTF, enjoys sex. Nice style, more kgirls should try it. MMs feel great especially riding. Limited English. It's not super close, but yes she does look like Rose from Blackpink. Photo model: BP Rose
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=804270&d=1776982852[/URL] BP Rose
[B]Subin[/B] - Like a model, pre-MILF. Very skinny, short black hair, 5'4", C or D tits, tits look and feel great, good nipples too, white skin, skinny waist, good hips and ass. Ideal hip to ass contrast. Breast shape is what I like, good for cupping from behind or when she leans over you for 2nd bbbj. She is beautiful head to toe. Important: Looks over Service, GFE only. Limited English but no trouble communicating with basic words. Very sensual, she has a routine so I would follow it and then take over later when you think it's right. Would repeat. Speaks some conversational Chinese. Improves on repeats.
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?38133-Korean-Agency-GFE&p=7654358&viewfull=1#post7654358[/URL] Original Subin Review
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DaQTb_ygz5o/[/URL] Subin looks like skinnier version
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DaRl4zcR9Fq/[/URL] Subin body type, but shorter hair
Subin has a good routine including light rimming tease. She loves to watch us bang, she sucks my dick after I cum. Looks over Service, more service than typical HYA but don't expect full MILF service. Her service is quiet and subdued, which I prefer. It is lay back and relax service as far as I can tell. The view is fantastic from all angles. I can't resist taking over each time, so I can't rate her Service accurately. It's just my and based on what others say - consider it a rough estimate. She'll clip her short hair so it doesn't get in the way, thank you for that. Her confidence has also improved each time. I think she did not realize how hot she is at first, but people in OC must have let her know.
[URL]https://get9irl.com/BabySubin[/URL] [B]Subin[/B]
[URL]https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/baby-subin[/URL] [B]Subin[/B]
[URL]https://kbeautygirls.com/baby-subin-gfe[/URL] [B]Subin[/B]
Every time you see a young girl or a hot girl instead of a high service MILF, it's a Vote for Team "Looks First". Over time, the girls that show up will get hotter. If the "Service First" guys do the same, both standards rise! It leads to [B]The Dream[/B] where guys who have a taste for Looks get Looks and guys who have a taste for Service get Service. They need only use Intel.
Photo guide for Subin here:
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?38333-Korean-Agency-GFE&p=7700712&viewfull=1#post7700712[/URL] [B]Subin and Winter[/B]
[B]Ng[/B] (Nggg) - Very beautiful. High looks and service. Tall, skinny, white skin, light bush, 30s, 5'6", C MMs with good nipples. Good face and body, beautiful pre-MILF face. Face is her strong point, it is a nicer face than typical HYA. Her body is very good too, like a tall model. Body and ass are beautiful with a skinny waist. Good pussy, strictly GFE. Good eye contact and attention. Borderline S / A Looks overall to me, she is my type. Pre-MILF but most HYA Hunters will be happy, maybe unless you are very young. Her boobs feel soft and great, I did not realize they were MMs until much later which is what I like. She is a bit sassy, and she knows what to do. It took some time for me to vibe with her but I did feel she is special and would repeat.
She is like Baby Sweet's big sister in some ways (taller, mature pre-MILF), the connection is good and natural. She may hypnotize her with her charm, so go ahead and enjoy that but don't get carried away either. I noticed many people liked Ng's face more than Baby Sweet, but Baby Sweet's body more than Ng. I think so too, but that's in the context of both of them being high level. Ng is more DTF, while Sweet has a more innocent charm. When Sweet said "See you tomorrow", it had the power of reality. Other than being GFE only, Ng is a certain kind of naughty.
Looks should appeal to any HYA Hunter.
Photo guide for Ng here:
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?38333-Korean-Agency-GFE&p=7700703&viewfull=1#post7700703[/URL] [B]Ng Subin Janey[/B]
[B]Cari[/B] - High Tier GFE MILF. She works a limited schedule 1130-530 5 days a week. This info is for regulars who already know her and just want to see her again. Guys with high expectations should just ignore. C MM, good English, high skills. Similar type to [B]Aile[/B]. Try Cari on HX.
[B]Nali[/B] - Spinner, top tier body, high service. 5'1", top tier D MMs, 20s, skinny, very long black hair to waist, very cute ass in both look and feel, good English, a bit sassy. Cute GND face. Very fit with a high muscle and low fat body. Tits and ass are S-Tier and stand out - best view for tits is when she's standing, best view for ass is in doggy. Very skilled bbbj, serial deepthroater, fucks back a lot. Her MMs look huge on her tiny frame. Important: Even for nymphos who enjoy sex a lot, you need to work with her and start slow so her pussy adapts. Some foreplay by kiss, tits, and pussy will help a girl loosen up and get wet. If you follow that and start slow, a lot of girls will love your dick in them.
She improves on repeats more than most girls, because she remembers what you like. For that same reason, let her know what you like and coach her if necessary. It's how HYA Hunters reach the next level.
D MMs look huge on a petite girl like Nali. Face is not main appeal but it is young which is safe for young guys. She tends to get more attractive each visit, we can't help it. Nali remembers what you like and improves on repeats.
To book her, use Kbeauty or KGLA.
[QUOTE=Download X;7700703][B]Hot GFE girls of LA[/B]
Mirror mirror, on the wall. Who is the hottest of them all? Depending on your taste, it could be [B]Ng[/B] (Nggg). She's back. [B]Subin[/B] is another option imo. For slightly thick HYA lovers, maybe [B]Janey[/B] too. All three GFE only, the other options are on break.
I dare not ask this question when several Premium girls work at the same time. No one can agree and it's too much drama. Pitchforks would come from the super fans arguing which girl is slightly hotter than the other. But it is encouraging that people only argue over the same girls.[/QUOTE]
The jist of this is that there are certain kgirls that have super fans that will argue until the end of time who is slightly hotter. The longer she's worked Socal, the harder it gets. You can basically tell by their price that they are hot, but only approximately. Ironically, the 400-450 hr girls are [I]sometimes[/I] hotter than the 500-600 hr girls. But the higher pricing keeps the girl less busy which does help the service.
[B]Health Addendum[/B]
I noticed that many people have a very different POV than the rest of us. So, I'll just reiterate that some very mild bacterial STDs won't ever show up on STD tests. Mgen being an example, Trich is a single-celled parasite (but treated with antibacterials). They're too mild to treat [I]unless[/I] somone has symptoms - I've spoken with STD clinic doctors and this is their standard practice. The issue is one person may have no symptoms, but then their future partners may have them. And the only way to treat it is for all parties to be treated so it doesn't bounce back and forth. It isn't taken so seriously, because they often present no symptoms. It's why I wrote in the guide on how to get treated with the 3-antibacterial combo when quitting bb. And all those 001 condom guides. I notice many people need them.
[U]Note that both Mgen and Trich are very hard to spread through oral sex, it is practically zero.[/U] Officially classified as very rare or unproven. I.e. the same way that condoms are not 100% either but they work. It is so close to zero, the way fractions of a penny aren't zero but get treated as-if zero. When writing out the health tips, I try not to explain all this but I noticed some people need an explanation.
Some people told me they will try to switch back to GFE only. Of course that's great, but I said to them "It is very hard". It is definitely possible though, just many steps and very hard. 001s are 80%-90% close to bb compared to default US condoms. But that's just the feeling of it with your eyes closed. However, there is a hard psychological barrier. I can't help you with that step, only point it out.
I'm going to attach 2 photo models for Ng based on Kang Minkyung. It is tricky because Ng is hotter but older than the closest KMK photos, so you could call them equivalent. LA has some high expectation guys that: never review, want spoon-fed intel, and only complain. Those people aren't a good fit imo. People should pick a girl that's their type or they'll be disappointed. So even though Ng is hotter than KMK, better that they don't believe me and are skeptical. The 1st photo gives a better general idea of a tallish model, while the 2nd photo is closer to her smile and dimples. Remember, she is older but hotter.
I'll also throw in an alternate Subin ad that gives the right idea, plus a Nali ass / backside photo guide.
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For those interested in 001 to 003 condoms, Ebay is still the easiest option imo. Some sellers offer in-person pickup and then you can speed dial them directly for future orders for a small discount. Okamoto 002s have a good balance of performance, price, and ease of use. 001s can be 'too thin' for young guys and guys who haven't done bb, meaning you might nut too soon. Make sure to get L size if you are a bigger guy. Or if you are even bigger, get the Sagami L. If you don't want Ebay or in-person pickup, try Ebisu Life in Anaheim. Back of the store at the end of the shelf next to the bathroom.
For jgirl lovers, [B]Anna J[/B]:
[URL]https://get9irl.com/BabyAnna[/URL] [B]Anna J[/B]
[B]Descriptions[/B]
[B]Mariel[/B] - 5'3", skinny, young, D MMs, white skin, very long straight black hair, pussy very tight. High tier body, has a large tattoo. Newish vibe, good effort. A bit ticklish side of face. Some English, above average for kgirl. Skinny with big tits and some ass. Like a younger FA Cherry. Similar body type to MH Cherry, Riri, and SBC Angel but smaller body plus the tattoo.
Pussy is as tight as Aoi J if not more. Her hair is long and straight down to the ass. Ass is especially good and youthful. If you ever wished to bb FA Cherry or Subin, the doggy view is a good match. Normal doggy for Subin, have her close her legs doggy and watch the side mirror for FA Cherry. She might be for some Balanced Hunters too, I'm not sure. Very hygenic, which GFE guys will appreciate.
[URL]https://get9irl.com/Mariel[/URL] [B]Mariel[/B] (Skinny TOAS)
[B]Isabella V[/B] - Viet, young, nice face. 5'3". High tier beautiful face, a bit thick, great ass, MM tits about C cup, tanned. Sometimes wears bunny ears, sometimes wears twintails. Cute and stylish. Hair is dyed mostly light brown with highlights, some ABG style with very nice eyes. Face is like Asian Jessica Alba. Pussy looks great and feels great, very dtf. Some tattoos. Strictly GFE only. Vibe is casual and friendly. Service is good as far as HYA go, it improved over time as she warmed up. For example I noticed LFK during warmup but DFK during missionary. She enjoys daty. Important: She is not for skinny hunters. At all! Let the thick hunters enjoy her.
She is some combo of young and hot with a bit of ABG style. Not all the way but it's there and it's nice. There are many Isabellas, this one is Viet. Viet girls are not my main target, but I thought she was very nice. Civvie vibe. Face type of Jessical Alba or a tanned Sonim, a mix of hot and exotic for Face. Service is a bit better than typical HYA but I would bring some service. Body is thick, the skinny waist and thick thighs combo is hot to me. She is Face over Body, Looks over Service. Her pussy loves to fuck.
[URL]https://cakdolls.com/escort/Isabella%20V/[/URL] [B]Isabella V[/B] (Viet, Face)
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=814832&d=1786235778[/URL] Jessica Alba but Asian
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=814834&d=1786235778[/URL] Sonim but tanned and more ABG
[B]Olivia[/B] - Very skinny and tiny girl, full Team7 with perfect body proportions. Petite, very skinny, white skin, 5'1", B or C MMs, long black hair with curls. Pussy is very good. Body feels great to hold. Her skills have improved over time. Good bbbj skills, routine includes some good balls licking. A bit sassy, has a tattoo. Her body appeal is similar to Baby Sol and FA Jira. Speaks some conversational Chinese. Pussy is good and she enjoys sex. Easy repeat for me, 50 bb for those who need it.
She is for Team7 fans, if you like a skinny petite girl. She does not look short and stocky like some spinners do, it is beautiful body proportions. Body over face. Genuine person, sassy, like a real girlfriend. She is probably the skinniest girl in OC.
[URL]https://get9irl.com/Olivia[/URL] [B]Olivia[/B] (Team7)
[URL]https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/olivia3[/URL] Olivia
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=813399&d=1785104528[/URL] Jgirl but black hair
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=813400&d=1785104528[/URL] Jgirl but black hair
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=813398&d=1785104528[/URL] Jgirl but black hair
[B]CAKD Dani[/B] - Skinny, maybe 5'3, about C cup, a bit tanned, good looking to me. Tits look and feel great. Mature, a little sassy, sweet smile.
She has a combo of Looks and Service so I repeat her.
[B]Ella K[/B] - C or D cup, tits feel great, about 30, 5'2", tanned, face is cute, long hair down to middle of back with some curls, a bit thick body type with broad shoulders, body is fit and has no extra fat, body feels great, very great skin too. Amazing tight pussy, very good service and attitude. She constantly has her hands and attention on me, and after nutting in her she'll suck my dick clean. When I ask for a break, she is stroking me and touching me and getting me hard.
Very service oriented. She has a combo of Looks, Service, and Price. Great pussy especially for 2 shot.
[B]Cheney[/B] - 5'6", late 20s, skinny waist, small C MMs, big ass like Gracie, some tattoo. Body over Face with a good tallish figure. Young body with tits and ass, skinny waist. Some overlap in vibe, personality, and service with Ribbon. But much taller and whiter than Ribbon. Knows what to do and follows instruction well. Very dtf, pussy can take dick well including bigger dick all the way after preparation. She started off by deepthroating me 6 inches, then sucking me vigorously. She loves nipples licked and pussy eaten, she loves to bang. Submissive, dtf, gets wet naturally. I think she is probably ymmv service, since I focused on charming her and making sure we got along. When you make a girl feel safe and comfortable, you can go far.
She doesn't pretend to like you, which I prefer. She knows her job and is cooperative. So, I try to get her to like me for real. Would repeat. I think she is for full HYA Hunters only. No make up when I saw her, natural looks. Body over Face. Tallish body with good younger figure is her strong point.
[URL]https://get9irl.com/BabyCheney[/URL] [B]Cheney[/B] (Tall, DTF)
[B]FA Shelby[/B] - Tall at about 5'7", huge DD tits, late 30s. She has a great womanly body, has tits and ass and really gets into it. Experienced, good thorough bbbj technique edge of bed. Bbbj skilled, fantastic P2P, tight pussy. Really good English, personality is as much native as Korean. Blonde hair when I saw her. She is a good GFE choice. Popular with older guys who want a regular repeat they can connect with in English.
Shelby is mult-booker now. If you are not screened with FA you can use Get9 or Kbeauty etc.. to see her. 260-hh 280-45 320-hr. Note she is msog included. Free msog is rare these days but that's always been the case for me and others for years. Oral skills are superb, she is also a master of P2P. She understands men well, very good English, high Service. Tall and womanly body. She taught me many of the skills I later taught HYA.
[URL]https://get9irl.com/Shelby[/URL]
[URL]https://kbeautygirls.com/shelby-gfe[/URL]
[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/photos/firstasians/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/TokyoGirls[/URL]
[B]Prada[/B] - Tall, about 5'7", white skin, good normal sized tits. 30s, good round ass, hot to me. She warms up slow - she has a mellow vibe but really gets into it during the action. Gets pretty naughty over time, loves to watch the action in the mirror sometimes. Good skill, DTF, enjoys sex. Pussy is especially good. She tried to rim me but I stopped her in time. Decent English, not for deep conversation but no problem communicating.
She is priced well. I'll emphasize her service starts slow and warms up, gets much better. Same idea as Baby Winter, real action starts after shower. Yes her ad says 5'5" but she is 5'7".
[B]CAKD Rayne K[/B] - [B]HYA+[/B]. Early 20s. Young and all natural looks, cute face, tanned, natural B or C tits. Well-toned body that feels like Sherry K. Very good attitude with fresh vibe, still learning with good effort. A bit sassy. Very DTF, enjoys sex with good natural reactions. Decent English, can hold basic conversation. I liked that she was fresh and easy to vibe with. Limited schedule. Fast learner, if she has fun she will stay.s
Check her out from behind in doggy. It is a beautiful young pussy.
[B]Future Descriptions[/B]
Some other girls in case they come back weeks or months from now:
[B]Winter[/B] aka Seven - All natural beauty, 5'6", white skin, B cup natural, some ass, good looking head to toe. Very beautiful. Good figure, skinny, nice smile, nice eyes, playful. Enjoys sex, eyes go wild. Would repeat for both looks and service, and I prefer an all natural white body. GFE only.
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=808674&d=1781207488[/URL] Winter vs Bomi
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=797326&d=1770068278[/URL] Winter vs Miyeon
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=797325&d=1770068278[/URL] Winter backside model
She resembles Bomi's face the most, but same vibe, style, and body type as Miyeon.
[B]Chanel1[/B] - Cute, 5'6", white skin, late 20s, C or D cup. S-Tier pussy. Tits feel good especially the soft area around nipples. Enjoys foreplay. Submissive and good for anyone who brings some service, DTF, enjoys it all. Enough English for basic conversation. First girlfriend vibes.
[B]Chanel2[/B] - Young and fresh. 5'6", 20s, natural C tits, plenty of ass, young womanly figure, white skin, fully shaved. Natural style, good audio feedback, natural reactions, like a new real girlfriend. Improving on skills, superior bbbj technique. Enjoys the feeling of cock in her but very new. Pussy is high tier but she is still getting used to it. Important: For rich HYA Hunters, especially 'almost virgin' hunters. There is a kind of exclusivity factor to the pricing for a girl with a new vibe.
[B]Baby Yul[/B] - High Looks, High service, very DTF. Slightly thick, not for Skinny Hunters. Beautiful face, good tits, big ass. Big B cup, white skin, high tier pussy, very dtf, long dfk, very good in bed. Resembles Ningning from Aespa. Her pussy loves to bang. Maybe it's because we got along well, but she is top tier service to me.
[B]How to Intel[/B]
Sometimes you know a girl is young because of her face, her body, her vibe, her pussy, and how her body feels. All of it. Especially how her pussy reacts to dick. But other times, she has to start a special zoom meeting for school so I have to duck. She reassures me the video isn't on but I tell her I take no chances.
[B]Being Fit to Bang HYA[/B]
I notice when some cheap atfs are gone for long, Im no longer in good shape to go long. I get out of breath. For that, you can try jogging. Heart health is maybe the main cap on enjoying dtf girls more.
[B]Pick Your ATF[/B]
If a girl doesnt like something, I don't do it. I have very many nice things I can try on her until she likes one. FA Shelby and many other Service MILFs taught me half of them, I learned the rest myself. If a girl still doesn't like the things I do in general, I don't see her. It's why the corg guides talk a lot about the Vibe check. You get better service when you get along, and you can go far. For the same reason, some people get actually lower service from the same girls. It is truly ymmv.
[B]The ATM[/B]
Girls act different to guys who leak money. She loses all respect for you as a man, you become an ATM. So don't. Pay as you go, don't suddenly give a girl a lot of money at once. It's the best way.
[B]True Pros[/B]
If she does stuff for you for free, you may be in danger. They'll do such nice things for you that later on when they ask you for something, you cannot conceive of a way to say no. They won't make it seem like their idea either. They mention they want something or need something, then look at you. Just ignore and change the subject, move on.
[B]Just Ignore GPS[/B]
Ignore her requests for extra money, just change the subject or don't respond or acknowledge. A few jgirls tried this on me so I simply ignore them. Later, they started offering me things for free instead. I could resume our relationship normally. I hope that is self-explanatory. So have some self-respect and you will do better with women.
[B]P4P Fantasies[/B]
With Ng here, it's a good time for that PSA. This PSA is not about her, but about all beautiful and charming women. You can enjoy them plenty at appointments. They are great in that specific scenario, but you wouldn't want to know them personally. Too many of us learned the hard way.
Having fantasies is a normal way to enjoy women more. But if you take it too seriously beyond that, you hurt yourself with deep disappointment. These hotties might treat us well and we don't see any flaw, but I wasn't looking very deeply. It only means that they know their job well and what men want. So, enjoy it.
P4P = You pay them, they give you a nice time. That's it. Don't give them promises or suddenly a lot of money at once. It ruins it for both of you. Women lose respect for such men and the men lose respect for themselves. It's because you'll always find out some other guy got good treatment too. So just enjoy yourself for what it really is. I get about one report a month from guys regretting this. This advice is not meant to stop you, it can't. It's for after you are burned next time, so it clicks in your head.
[B]Time's Up[/B]
[I]After the strip show Shiori sat back in her seat, totally back to normal and ignoring me again. Some time later, she notices an insect on the ground. She kicks it a few times with her foot first hoping it will buzz off. But it can't fly with damaged wings, just annoy her. Then, she picks it up and quickly tosses it in the trash. This is very symbolic of P4P. We customers attract the hot girl's full attention briefly and then they ignore us again like we don't even exist. Just the idea itself almost gets you rock hard.[/I]
[B]The Draft 2[/B]
Every time you see a young girl or a hot girl instead of a high service MILF, it's a Vote for Team "Looks First". Over time, the girls that show up will get hotter. If the "Service First" guys do the same, girls who don't have either leave. Then both standards rise. It leads to [B]The Dream[/B] where guys who have a taste for Looks get Looks and guys who have a taste for Service get Service. They need only use Intel. Both types of reviewers have to work together for complete intel, so that the duds can't hide.
It is pretty hard to shill when enough people give multi-girl opinions. The Furiosa Test gets run in combination and you can always find someone with similar and proven taste.
[B]What is Freshness[/B]
In Janey's review, I mentioned she is still kind of fresh. What is freshness? Well, there was one girl I remember who was so new she told me "I am almost virgin". Normally I'd not believe such a silly claim, but then her service did show it. She could not understand or believe the things I did, even though I was simply doing the Lizza guide that won't even impress other HYA. I'll point out she didn't even know to shower with me, so I did it myself. And then when I exited the bathroom, she went in and closed the door to get undressed so that I wouldn't see her get naked. Never seen anything like it.
She was very nervous, just like all the Dragons today were the first they first day they started years ago. She was afraid of even being touched, so I had her lay down and we just lay down for several minutes looking at each other. Eventually I got her going and while kissing she wouldn't even open her mouth. I teased, "most girls kiss with tongue" and she said she doesn't even kiss her boyfriend with tongue. I was stunned silent, it seemed true to me. Seducing such women is the challenge full HYA Hunters prefer anyways, so I moved on to other things. In the end, I found out she really loves dick in pussy. It drove her crazy, like it was the newest and greatest thing ever. It was kind of like Hanni (OC only) who was also very new to it. A more elevated version of Rayne or Lizza. The way her pussy reacts to dick, it's not something girls can fake. Or if they could, they should.
Freshness is different than New in one major way. A girl could have worked a lot elsewhere, but she is completely new here. That's valuable too, but different. Whereas a girl who worked as a room girl or only gave bjs, she'll give good bj but have no idea how to do the rest. Some cities welcome such girls more than others. Or that is to say, such girls are for full HYA Hunters only.
Attached is an alternate Mariel ad, without her tattoo. She does have a large one. Next is Jessica Alba. Isabella V has a similar face type and skintone, so she is Asian Jessica Alba. Next photo is an OF Model Trixie and her pussy reminds me of Isabella V. Last is a JAV girl Sena who has a similar Team7 body to Olivia. For Isabella / Trixie her pussy is great for DATY, so I'll recap DATY below:
[B]DATY (eating pussy)[/B]
Daty is not for everyone or even most people. Make sure your girl is comfortable with it. A few experienced girls will even help you by rocking or swirling their body, which is always a good sign. If you are a beginner, I would practice on a fully shaved girl. "Full bush" is for experts, most wouldn't dare.
The clitoris can be very sensitive, so don't attack it hard or direct right away. Use low and gentle pressure, work around it first rather than directly. Watch and listen to her reaction for clues. The clit tends to start "hidden", which is a good thing due to its sensitivity. You have to build trust and comfort, get the blood flowing to do more. If you have ever been given a bbbj that was too hard too soon, it's the same thing. Start extra gentle if you're not sure.
A quick anatomy summary: [I]The most visible part, the clitoral glans, is a small, button-like area of flesh at the top of the vulva. It is protected by the clitoral hood, which is a fold of skin.[/I]. When normal people say clitoris or clit they just mean the exposed part of the whole organ. The hood is analogous to the male foreskin.
Like a bbbj, it is as much psychological as physical. Even your breath and your approach makes a big difference. About the psychological aspect, give her an understanding of what you'll do, and watch her reaction as you do it. No rushing or surprising. Periodically check on her reaction. If she is helping you with it or obviously enjoying it, she probably wants you to continue. Your tongue motions can be back and forth or circular. Don't focus too much on just the clit, especially at the start. A few minutes of this it will get the blood flowing. There are many techniques and "phases" go to longer, but these are the basics to help a girl get aroused to receive your dick after. It not only helps women get wet, but expands their pussy and prepares it for sex.
When in doubt, don't overdo it. It is the thought that counts. A bit of this (1-5 minutes) can get the girl naturally wet, a lot of it could get her to orgasm (15-45 minutes I am not joking). For those who aren't into DATY, you can give a gentle rub too. If you shave, make sure you don't have fresh and hard stubble that would irritate her.
The most important point for daty is that the female clitoris is very sensitive. It's protected by a hood, but once things get going it may pop out on its own. It's different for every girl. So, daty should start with indirect contact. Don't go hard on a girl with a lot of pressure. You are teasing around it more than constant direct contact. Same as a blowjob.
[B]2 Hours Is Rare[/B]
Most girls can only give you hh of action including shower. Maybe a break with massage then 2nd shot to finish the hour. If I'm able to 2shot with a girl, I just need 45-55 mins. I remember always enjoying about 2-shot with 55 mins consistently when younger, it was nice. But some of us can get 1 shot of full action in 30 mins no problem.
Whereas, sometimes I'm in top form and the girl is very supportive and loves it. There were girls like Naye or Yul who could do 2 hours with some breaks mixed in. It is just very rare. I wouldn't expect it and it's just for repeats when I noticed a girl could do it.
Some of us just want to chat for the 2nd hour, or use 2 hours to get our 2nd shot if we can't do it in 1. For guys that can afford it, it's an option. But most guys want Value, so 1 hr should be the max by default. Hh if you just want to play and leave without massage or 2nd shot. Lots of guys do that, and I used to default to that unless I knew a girl was even worth chatting with or getting a massage from.
When work was busy, a massage after bang did help me relax and then I'd be back in the zone for work. I considered that it did help me get work done, it was quite wholesome and reliable. Pre-MILFs and MILFs tended to shine here back when I would just lay back and close my eyes. That was my mindset when I leaned Service and GFE, I needed bbbj more than fs. Looks were less important than Service as long as the minimum standard was met.
Even on most days that I didn't visit, just knowing I had a visit later in the week or next week helped me focus on work. When I was going just once a month and satisfied with that, I could even say it paid for itself in productivity and focus. It kept me from distractions like strip clubs which were a bit more ymmv. These things are trial and error, but I hope each person finds their way.
2 hours are pretty rare but very occasionally it's called for. One time for a repeat visit I booked one girl 2 hours and it made her a bit nervous. She asked "What I was going to do to her". I was a bit taken aback at this question, and I reassure her it's not like that at all. I'm only going to do whatever she likes and it's up to her. It's true, and ironically an open-minded approach is the best way to trial and error the winners. Interviewing your ATF harem for the future.
[B]Meeting Your Match[/B]
When you make a girl feel safe and comfortable with good communication, she may let you go to town. It actually ended up a non-stop fuck fest, with both offense and defense. She sometimes took over and had me at her mercy, then I'd take over again. So I made sure to repeat her as much as my body could handle. It wouldn't have happened if I were demanding and insisting, or expecting it. I watched her reaction and brought some service, and she enjoyed it. Such girls often feel better after we see them than before we started.
When enough guys show up with this approach, those girls gain confidence and start giving actual better service.
This is how I identify girls to repeat. And if a girl isn't a good match, I just don't repeat her. There are too many better options.
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YHT
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7702301&viewfull=1#post7702301[/URL] Kathy
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7701009&viewfull=1#post7701009[/URL] Alice
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7700149&viewfull=1#post7700149[/URL] [B]Isabella V[/B]
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7699040&viewfull=1#post7699040[/URL] Wonie
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7698869&viewfull=1#post7698869[/URL] [B]Baby Jiyu / Ina[/B]
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7696768&viewfull=1#post7696768[/URL] Baby Jiyu / Ina
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7698057&viewfull=1#post7698057[/URL] Mayu J
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7693957&viewfull=1#post7693957[/URL] Mayu J
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7696678&viewfull=1#post7696678[/URL] [B]Shirley K[/B]
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7694531&viewfull=1#post7694531[/URL] Shirley K
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7694186&viewfull=1#post7694186[/URL] Shirley K
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7694176&viewfull=1#post7694176[/URL] Shirley K
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC&p=7700483&viewfull=1#post7700483[/URL] Shirley K
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC&p=7699387&viewfull=1#post7699387[/URL] Shirley K
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC&p=7697182&viewfull=1#post7697182[/URL] Shirley K
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7696444&viewfull=1#post7696444[/URL] Yumi
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7696108&viewfull=1#post7696108[/URL] [B]Ella[/B]
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7695950&viewfull=1#post7695950[/URL] Roxy
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7691002&viewfull=1#post7691002[/URL] Roxy
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7695634&viewfull=1#post7695634[/URL] Snow
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7693779&viewfull=1#post7693779[/URL] [B]Jenny K[/B]
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7693742&viewfull=1#post7693742[/URL] Star
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7691479&viewfull=1#post7691479[/URL] Kitty
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7689801&viewfull=1#post7689801[/URL] [B]Subin[/B]
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31130-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7701244&viewfull=1#post7701244[/URL] [B]Multi-Girl: Ella to Cheney[/B]
Some of the above girls I think are well-priced, but it doesn't mean they are your type. But if you do like them, you'll find the price makes her very repeatable too. [B]Ella and Jenny K[/B] are examples of bb special girls which to a BB Yoda guy makes them obvious candidates. On Get9's site, you can see on the bottom corner a pink 'Special' tag for girls with discounted bb. A red special tag means msog included. It is very rare, but sometimes there is simply a typo.
Below, you can contrast Fitness' review of [B]Isabella V[/B] with my description. She is a bit thick with a nice Face, Face over Body with a friendly vibe. See where we agree and disagree, this hobby requires you to think for yourself and learn. We are describing the same girl, and ideally you can use the two to figure out which aspects you relate to better through Triangulation:
[QUOTE=FitnessOne;7700149]P: Light resemble face and her blonde hair little darker wearing the black cat ears like her selfie pics.
L: Early 30 ish, standing 5'2" 105 lb. Her face is my highlight, pretty and prettier when she smiles. Boobs are MM C's felt firm / hard. Tan / dark body not porcelain like photo. Her body isn't tone / fit just thick. Skins not as smooth / soft and feel ok. Few tattoos here and there in between her breast and along her spine.
E: Good English, fluent in Vietnamese. She's a quiet type and said she'll convo if you initiate cause most guys are not there to chat.
A: Good vibes and bit reserved but warm up and she giggles / laughs a lot before and during session. I asked and she said because I like you, interesting.
S: Upon entry, I initial a hug / kiss to see her reaction. Beautiful face with light makeup wearing a black lingerie / heels. Shoes off forward to her room. Inside, more hugs and a quick rinse with more kissing. Back to the room, I don't think she has a routine so I lay her down and started with lfk making my way down slowly to her kitty. Not completely bald / not too much hair. Nice kitty, light pink clean and tasty. Her reaction and moaning turning me on. BBBJ was nice, no dt lots of bls and her technique was unique no head bobbing just tongue twisting / twirling with my C inside her mouth. Suit up my. 002 instead of lubricating herself she lub me instead. Cons, she's not tigh no grips just poundings. Switched to K9 for the views as she gets louder making me excited and blew. Light massage / chat before she initiated R2 and finished me with BBBJ / HJ. She's leaving for LA soon and back to Vietnam after her tour next month.
E: 350 and 50 msog.
Are: No, even with her pretty face but her body isn't what I'm looking for.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Download X;7701125][B]Isabella V[/B] - Viet, young, nice face. 5'3". High tier beautiful face, a bit thick, great ass, MM tits about C cup, tanned. Sometimes wears bunny ears, sometimes wears twintails. Cute and stylish. Hair is dyed mostly light brown with highlights, some ABG style with very nice eyes. Face is like Asian Jessica Alba. Pussy looks great and feels great, very dtf. Some tattoos. Strictly GFE only. Vibe is casual and friendly. Service is good as far as HYA go, it improved over time as she warmed up. For example I noticed LFK during warmup but DFK during missionary. She enjoys daty. Important: She is not for skinny hunters. At all! Let the thick hunters enjoy her.
She is some combo of young and hot with a bit of ABG style. Not all the way but it's there and it's nice. There are many Isabellas, this one is Viet. Viet girls are not my main target, but I thought she was very nice. Civvie vibe. Face type of Jessical Alba or a tanned Sonim, a mix of hot and exotic for Face. Service is a bit better than typical HYA but I would bring some service. Body is thick, the skinny waist and thick thighs combo is hot to me. She is Face over Body, Looks over Service. Her pussy loves to fuck.
[URL]https://cakdolls.com/escort/Isabella%20V/[/URL] [B]Isabella V[/B] (Viet, Face)
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=814832&d=1786235778[/URL] Jessica Alba but Asian
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=814834&d=1786235778[/URL] Sonim but tanned and more ABG[/QUOTE]
You need multiple reviews to complete the picture. You'll notice even if you disagree with a review, someone else might agree with it. It's a given that every girl is going to please one guy and not another. Or just be good enough one time but no repeat. For what it's worth, everything in Fitness' review made sense to me. But it's something the reader has to decide for themselves always.
You can sometimes get more information by contrasting two reviewers than by looking at two who agree. But, it's even more important that you simply figure out which reviewer matches your taste in the first place.Contrasting two reviewers is one way to do that. If you end up seeing the girl, you look back afterwards and figure out who was closer.
Being in minority taste, I don't expect people to agree with my reviews. In that sense, other reviewers aren't accurate to me either - even though I consider them accurate from their POV and for others. By design, they should still be able to pick out warnings and basic Specs in my reviews. And then for people with the same minority taste as me, they can figure that out too.
[B]Dani[/B]
[QUOTE=Download X;7701767][B]CAKD Dani[/B] - High looks and high service. Lay back and relax service. Nice face, good smile, borderline DDG. Mature, skinny, maybe 5'3, about C cup plus. Tits feel great in hands, they are Subin style. Tits look and feel great. Good bbbj skills, shower preview, fluttering lick of body and balls. Not much kgirl attitude but sweet and attentive, knows what to do.[/QUOTE]
Dani's ads are based on her with the usual PS. It's not listed on CAKD website, but she is bb upcharge if you need. She is a good substitute for [B]FA Tomi[/B] to me and I feel like there's some overlapping appeal. Dani's tits are big but not huge. They look good, feel good, and the nipples are good. So I like them more than bigger MMs the same way I prefer good naturals over good MMs to some degree.
[B]GFE vs BB[/B]
I'll point out that if you check Get9, CGLA, or Kbeauty, it's clearly listed whether a girl is GFE or open to bb. Get9's website makes it easy if you look at the lower left corner label of each portrait (blue GFE tag). On CAKD's site, 'Options Available' usually means bb upcharge. 'Special Donation' usually means discounted or free bb.
Occasionally, the ad is outdated. For example, CAKD Dani offers bb upcharge and used to be GFE only. So, her ad still shows GFE only even though she was bb upcharge even on her previous tours. But, girls get to decide what's offered always.
There are also some girls like Amy V who listed GFE only so she could pick and choose who gets it. It's not common though. Whereas there other girls don't want to focus on bb, but will do it for a higher upcharge. They simply don't want to do it often at all, and 150-250 bb generally means that. Sometimes after they got comfortable with it and liked the work, some will drop it to 100 like Lizza did. It wouldn't have happened if a girl got bad Vibes from bb.
Girls keep full tips, so 100 bb is as-if it were 150 more to them. Many girls wouldn't do it at all without it. Most guys seem to find it acceptable as an exception if the girl is young and hot enough. The better girls are ultimately higher Value, but there is a limit to that. When a girl is overpriced, even if she were hot, everyone sees that there are other cheaper options. Sometimes the cheaper option is even better for each particular guy, even if each guy thinks of a different girl. That's the basic problem with over-pricing.
[B]Jedi Precognition[/B]
[QUOTE=Download X;7662624]When LA and OC forward reviews to each other, you get day one intel. It is [B]Jedi Precognition[/B]. It's one of the best Jedi powers. You could say that the only thing as good as free bb, is free Intel on the next hotties.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Download X;7668355][B]The Gatekeeper's Wish Come True[/B]
It does strike a fear in the heart of LA Gatekeepers when they realize they probably should have reviewed [B]Baby Cherry[/B] more. It's why Gatekeepers one day turn into Gatesmashers.[/QUOTE]
Jedi Precognition is a great power I hope LA learns to use. Maybe they'll even review Ng after things cool down. [B]Ng[/B] in LA and [B]Shirley[/B] in OC both have broad appeal as far as Looks, and they have "enough Service" for Balanced Hunters. They can randomly be hard to book, but it will get easier later. It always does. Ng is a good example because the same pattern happened 3 years ago in LA. It's normal. But while it's hard to book and things are "sold out", you can still be happy if you don't focus too much on FOMO. There are other cheaper options, but it is a different girl for each guy.
[B]Some HYA Never Return[/B]
Many jgirls and kgirls have limited tours. So, if you are a HYA Hunter you are going to have to look for new options periodically. Gatekeeping is a dead end in the long-run. Rather, when you are done with a girl why not point her out so others can take good care of her. They may point out girls for you too.
[B]The Gatesmashers Dream Come True[/B]
[I]If she be truly worthy, let the gate be smashed.[/I] - The Gatesmasher's Hammer
[QUOTE=SoloAdventure;7701936]What you mean by freshness is confusing. If you mean fresh as DTF, sure, [B]Janey[/B] is DTF. But fresh like someone doing this for the first time, that's not pre-MILF Janey. She's been at this job and is not timid. If you don't lead, she'll lead you. If you do something wrong, she will let you know it or end it. LemonPepper and SoloBolo's reviews on her are accurate. If you want more model type, look at [B]Subin, NG[/B] but if you want someone that's cute, GND and really GFE, Janey. Can't go wrong any of the three pre-milfs (Subin, NG, Janey), depends on what you're looking for the day. Fresh, as in new to the profession, is maybe [B]Rayne[/B] but even she's seasoned now.[/QUOTE]
It is paradoxical. I know she's done this a long time, but she still has some freshness left despite that. Even if it is not fresh in the other ways you pointed out. "Still DTF" is one example, or still gets wet naturally or orgasms well being others. There wasn't a better example for LA. For OC [B]Rayne and Baby Bonnie[/B] are more fresh than Janey in the short list of available girls. The extreme example I gave earlier (truly new) was less than 1%, and she was only like that for 2 days. I know because friends reported a more normal girl who used tongue when kissing. I got it too a week later, and she even showered me and let me watch her undress. I was almost disappointed at the improvement, since I don't mind inexperienced girls. But she was still very fresh. Like the different kinds of fruits, some fruits stay fresh longer while other fruits do not.
In that way there were other girls who became 'dead inside' over the years, maybe 3-15 years later. It depends on the fruit and some girls are just built different. Or, maybe they have a different demographic of appeal that helps them last longer. It is one of the risks of touring everywhere for more money, it could take a toll. It's why if a girl is truly worthy, we should Draft them for Socal using the Gatesmasher's Hammer. The rest are free to leave and tour. That is the [B]Gatesmasher's Dream Come True[/B]. We keep the best girls, and other regions get the leftovers.
The better Service MILFs still have [I]some[/I] freshness no matter how long they've done this. New and Fresh diverge for girls even though they both start out at 100% for a day 1 girl. In this way, the better girls are still Fresh but not New. They are flexible on service and love it still. They have good energy, vibe, a bright smile. I remember [B]Nali[/B] in OC being Fresh, partly because she came back from long vacation. The happiest kgirl I ever met still. It's something you have to see to believe, and once the vacation boost fades you can see the dropoff yourself. I always saw her at her best and peak, but others would get cancelled and she'd need to go on break. It makes sense, and a girl does everyone a favor when she takes those breaks.
Those who saw Lizza and Katie K first or second week saw it too. In this way, long vacation and "early in career" contribute to Fresh. But True Fresh (actually just started) is really rare.
I also find it's not the number of years they've been around, but more typically the actual mileage and maintenance that matters. Some girls are parked like a fine car in a garage most of the year, while others still are only taken out for a drive one or two days a week if even. Low mileage and rested girls are as-if new even though not new. A proper vacation acts as a full refurbishment and tune up.
Rayne is unique in that way, since she has had a very limited schedule. [B]Baby Cherry[/B] too, she's been around for years but has less mileage than girls who have been here a few months. Same with [B]Asol[/B], and so on if that makes sense.
[B]YMMV[/B]
Some girls if you manage to seduce them, they suddenly have freshness and are full of life. They might even be so happy to see you next time, even though you didn't do anything yet. But other guys I know will say the same girls are dead inside. There is no contradiction there, that is true ymmv. I noticed this gap in service is objectively true and not imaginary.
I saw the greatest effect of that with Evian. The two green dots show my first visit versus my final visit with her.
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=814058&d=1785568509[/URL] Evian DTF vs Vibe Graph
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=815014&d=1786425134[/URL] Evian dolled up (Aespa Winter)
[QUOTE=Download X;7685441]Some of us would rather Evian come back than even Lizza, due to unicorn Vibe and a few other outliers. Lizza is the princess that waves and smiles to everyone. Whereas Evian she only likes some people so if you likes you, that's better. You see the real her. So like novelty, there is a separate thing beyond Looks and Service which is simply "no girl is anything like her".[/QUOTE]
To be clear, the Evian fanbase is much smaller than the Lizza fanbase. For the very reasons described.
When a mostly fresh girl does show up in town, if she be hot also then people will gang up on her morning to night. The train is long and quiet, but you know it's there because it's hard to get a ticket and hop on board. When tickets become widely available, I make sure to give the bat signals to Batman after figuring out which guys she would appeal most to. Or, using Jedi Precognition we can even review girls before day 1. If you do this days before, lazy people forget and it skews true fans.
These days, the better new girls charge a higher rate from day one since she expects a train. People will complain about the price while still repeating her. Or when her price is reasonable like [B]Subin[/B], people still want to gatekeep her. But not OC. There is less gatekeeping in OC, probably because it can only Draft a few girls at a time. We know the rest go back to LA or tour.
More than that, a few girls were underrated and about to leave town forever. But they suddenly changed their mind and decided to stay longer rather than tour. It was sometimes decided by just one single vote. You must have sensed it too.
That is the biggest risk of Gatekeeping, because such a star would be in Korea by now instead. They would have been exchanged for a more borderline girl guaranteed. All in the chase of New instead of Hot. But when we Draft, we kept such stars and managed to cuck Korea's fanbase in the process. They don't even know. They'd gatekeep her too. So, their wish came true as did ours.
Due to LA's gatekeeping, some girls will come OC again. I don't know which ones, just that it always happens like that.
[QUOTE=Download X;7701132]Ng is a classy girl, good English, very intelligent. But guys who need more PSE-style Service are going to need to see a full MILF. It's why she is for HYA Hunters and Balanced Hunters, not full Service Hunters. For people who want to meet an elegant mature princess. A hot wife type girl.
Since she is so charming and good looking, I'll post some PSAs:[/QUOTE]
[B]Underselling Ng[/B]
With a higher level girl like Ng shows up, it is better to undersell her than oversell her. Since she already has fans, they want to compeletely gatekeep her. But one or two Gatesmashers will undo the work of a dozen or two Gatekeepers.
As a compromise, let's let in a few gentlemen who don't expect everything but generally want to meet a classy, charming, beautiful woman. But we then have to warn guys that Ng is older and maybe not what one guy pictures in his mind. When a guy's expectation is even slightly higher than the girl, he gets disappointed. It doesn't matter how hot she is! Even if he were a lazy gatekeeper who never reviews, he curses the reviewers for being slightly wrong or missing some Dealbraker to him. It's the only time you'll see them post, and it's always like that. They won't even provide any new information on the girl, and you have no idea if they even really saw the girl. It is not an actual review.
To avoid this predictable disappointment, just pick your girl logically and don't even expect anything. You'll be happier that way.
Note that we did not undersell the girl from the POV of people who had different taste. That's why we do it. It actually helps their impression line up better when it comes to the higher end girls. Not everyone will see the same level of appeal. But to a person who feels like we undersold her, that is the very bat signal that they can follow our taste.
[B]The Goal of HYA Reviews[/B]
There are three goals for reviews. First, we don't want Service Hunters to see a HYA and be disappointed. We will scare them off using nothing but the truth there. Second, we want HYA Hunters to know about a girl and make a good decision based on clear and verifiable facts. This is why I list out specs, which is intel that people generally agree on (height, tits, weight, skintone, hair, tattoos) plus a looks opinion broken down by parts (face, body, tits). If a HYA is obviously low or high service relative to HYA, I'll say so and give clear tips. Guys can then look through a HYA's specs to find out if she is even his type, because there are many other HYA to choose from.
Lastly, I hope to do an exchange using the first and second principles - the Service Hunter should flee from most HYA and the HYA Hunter should go straight for his ideal type of girl. The result is both guys have a higher success rate, and so do the girls. The girls get fewer unhappy customers and more happy customers - for free. It lets them take an even longer train, and give better service to the type of person who shows up. It is a win-win result, and all it takes is accurate intel.
Hot pre-MILFs overlap with HYA appeal more, while Service pre-MILFs overlap MILF appeal more.
With enough intel, every guy finds his girl sooner. This means HYA Hunters might go straight to their ATF first few tries. They get more value. Girls will have a higher repeat rate through better matchmaking too. This is how girls end up staying longer tours rather than the shorter tours catering to the one-and-done crowd that disappears after 2 weeks. The final result is, HYA are happy to come back and more new HYA will come. Notice we have not taken business away from Service Queens, quite the opposite - we are sending lost Service Hunters back to them. We are automatically giving every guy more value for their money with intel. This is the ultimate goal of reviews - to save people time and money. It even has the bonus of giving good vibes both ways, and lengthening the tours of girls who have fan.
When girls get customers who actually like them, they work harder too. They can't help it.
[B]At Random - the Furiosa Test[/B]
One reason I describe many girls is if you see I could accurately describe a girl you already saw, maybe it suggests my other descriptions can help you. After all, I have no idea which girls you or another guy saw so I have to describe all of them equally accurately. If my rosters didn't help you much before, don't use them. It means our taste is too different so as to be confusing.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wKUlPr3-Y0[/URL] The Furiosa Test
[B]The Legend of MH Ella[/B]
For those into jgirls, I'll close with a poem about the POV of their fans sitting in Japan. Many people see how cheap girls are in Japan, but of course it costs time and money to fly there. Even with the exchange rate, it's not really worth it unless you were going there anyways for vacation or business. But, it's quite natural that sushi is cheaper and better in Japan. The same way hamburger is cheaper and better in the US. This poem is just to remind us that the grass isn't always greener over there. When the better jgirls come to the US and we see them, we are getting the better deal:
[I]Imagine you are a jgirl's super fan. A VIP, seen her lots. She tells you you are special. You are special. She puts your clothes and shoes back on every time. A kiss on the cheek.
But she's on vacation for two months, it says so on her blog. She writes a thank you message. Even leaves an inside joke only you would understand. You nod in approval. You and her have a special connection.
While out of the country, you message her on LINE but she leaves you on read the whole time. Well, that's to be expected.
Then you hear a rumor she is actually working still while on vacation. You've learned English in your younger days, so you look it up. It is shocking. East Coast bros hi fiving at BBFSCIP your favorite girl. Taking turns. Writing graphic reviews. Making porn with her. Taking her out sightseeing.
You were condom only of course, always. That's her policy right?
Right?
So she comes back to japan possibly pregnant two months later, and you visit her again. You're not sure if you should say anything. But once you see her face again, your heart melts. All is forgiven. What an amazing session as always. She tells you you are special. You know you are. Another kiss on the cheek.
But you came into a condom. Now, she says she is going on another vacation.
Fuck me right?[/I]
What I wrote is the same story that happens with many popular girls. You guys here are the real first class customers. So enjoy it.
Jgirl MH Ella has no relation to kgirl Ella now in OC. I once reviewed Ella for the East coast, rating her A-Tier. Immediately two fans called her S-Tier. And you know what, they are the lucky ones. No one needs to justify or explain why they like a girl a lot, so just enjoy it. But for everyone else, we try to review and list out her pros and cons with some caution just in case.
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Apparently [B]Cici[/B] offers golden shower for 50. Is this a shower preview, a table shower, or just a regular shower at the bed? I have no idea. You'll have to figure it out. YHTFIO
A mixup with Cici led me to describe bb-special [B]Ella[/B] (Krissy) in more detail:
[B]Ella[/B]'s strong points are her Face, her Pussy, her Price. People generally agree on that, and it's why I choose her over other girls. That and her good Vibe are what I liked, I feel she is a very nice and easy to get along with girl. Tits are good, and Body is good if you don't mind a bit thick. It's hard to know what Service guys will think. Most people seemed to like her, and she probably appeals to any BB Yoda guy and most Balanced Hunters. But some Service Hunters are looking for MILF service. These are guys who repeat [B]Maya[/B] and [B]Pepsi[/B], who in turn are great for Service guys but not for HYA guys. Ella is in the middle of the two extremes and priced well.
I categorize Ella as around 30, so she is still young to me. I am looking for any girl under 35 OR she is super hot as an exception. Some people say younger, some people say older. She can pass as under 30 to me, so to play it safe in case I'm wrong I'll say 25-35. Ella was somewhat thick last time I saw her, in great shape with no extra fat. She checks a lot of boxes for me so it was always an easy repeat for me.
[B]Ella K[/B] - C or D cup, tits feel great, about 30, 5'2", tanned, face is cute, long hair down to middle of back with some curls, a bit thick body type with broad shoulders, body is fit and has no extra fat, body feels great, very great skin too. Amazing tight pussy, very good service and attitude. She constantly has her hands and attention on me, and after nutting in her she'll suck my dick clean. When I ask for a break, she is stroking me and touching me and getting me hard.
[URL]https://cakdolls.com/escort/Ella/[/URL]
[URL]https://get9irl.com/EllaK[/URL]
[URL]https://kbeautygirls.com/ella2[/URL]
[URL]https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/sd-ella[/URL]
There is also a Thai girl Ella, but that's a different girl.
Excerpted:
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31130-Korean-Agency-BB&p=7703913&viewfull=1#post7703913[/URL] Golden Showers
I list out 4 bookers above, but there's always more. We are here to see girls not see bookers, so use whoever you like. I usually review girls without listing their ads to encourage that, but for practical reasons some people need ads to look at and save time.
Regulars in OC would want at least 2 if not 3 bookers. If you go to LA or SD, CGLA, Get9, Kbeauty have very good coverage. If you go Norcal, GNS will help you. FA (FirstAsians) has some long-tour girls and exclusives with budget hh rates. CAKD covers all three cities and can help you book any city, but they focus on OC. They also multi-book a variety of other girls. It means if you can't book your first choice with them or the schedule doesn't work, you can ask for more backup options. Cancellations happen, not a lot but you should have a backup plan.
Some more info from a Lookalike update for Crystal, GFE Winter, Baby Sweet, and Baby Sugar:
[QUOTE=Download X;7703574]First four are lookalikes for [B]Crystal[/B], three are a Chinese influencer and the other is Blackpink Rose. Note that her schedule is very limited to weekdays daytime:
[URL]https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/crystal[/URL] Crystal
[URL]https://kbeautygirls.com/crystal[/URL][/QUOTE]
[B]Crystal[/B] - Has looks and service, cute and sexy, very skinny and tiny. 5'3", C tits, great sensitive nipples, tanned, dyed long hair in-between brown and blonde. Skilled and able to deepthroat all the way repeatedly (ask / coach her), more than many MILFs. Many other skills. Nice style, tits feel great especially during riding. Enjoys DATY and DTF. Nice subtle style, more kgirls should do it. MMs feel great especially riding. Limited English, sassy. It's not super close, but yes she does look like Rose from Blackpink.
She is LA only and responds well to the Lizza guide, a respectful attitude, and coaching. The skills are there but you should just tell her which things you want her to do more. She is sassy, a step above Mina / Allie on that. Some of us like sassy, others do not. In the same way, some of us like quiet while others like loud and passionate. It's one thing I noticed with [B]Subin[/B] feedback, there were many people who found her hot and some liked her a lot while others didn't like how quiet she was. Which must be true, because her subdued and sensual service is also what I and others prefer. In this way, when people who like and dislike a girl agree on the same reason, we can call it a Spec. An objective detail about a girl people generally agree on.
[B]GFE Winter[/B] aka Seven (OC) - All natural beauty, 5'6", white skin, B cup natural, some ass, good looking head to toe. Very beautiful. Good figure, skinny, nice smile, nice eyes, playful. Enjoys sex, eyes go wild. Would repeat for both looks and service, and I prefer an all natural white body. GFE only.
All natural appeal, her body is very close to a skinnier [B]Laurent[/B]. I feel like she knows what guys like. She tends to work OC, never LA.
If you like tiny girls, it's Baby Abby / Rai (vacation), Crystal (LA), then [B]Olivia[/B] (PV/WLA), and [B]Tiana[/B] (LA). If you liked tanned HYA, then [B]Baby Cherry[/B] (LA) and [B]Rayne K[/B] (OC). If you love to bang models, then [B]Daisy[/B] (LA), [B]Ng[/B] (LA), [B]Subin[/B] (LA), and someday [B]GFE Winter[/B] (OC) and [B]Wonyoung[/B] (LA). [B]Baby Sugar[/B], Ng, Yul, and [B]Riri J[/B] having the best faces. Daisy the best for ABG style, then maybe [B]Isabella V[/B]. [B]Cheney[/B] (vacation) and [B]Swan[/B] (vacation) were straightforward fuck buddies. If you like really skinny, there's also [B]Baby Eve[/B] (LA) or [B]Baby Aqua[/B] (LA) but both are vacation. Crystal and Olivia are also very skinny in addition to being tiny. OC has [B]New Baby Arin[/B] from LA, you can find reviews in old rosters or search LA. Same for [B]Peach[/B] (OC). For tall, [B]Chanel4[/B] (OC) or [B]Gracie[/B] (vacation). For innocent vibe [B]Chanel1[/B] (vacation), for fresh [B]Chanel2[/B] (vacation) or Baby Cherry (LA). The best girls to gatekeep are [B]Baby Sweet[/B] (vacation), [B]Nali[/B] (LA with KGLA and Kbeauty), and [B]River[/B] (vacation). If you want to see [B]Shirley K[/B] or [B]Rayne K[/B], best to pre-book. But same day is always a possibility with cancellations or if you are flexible on time. [B]Sansa K[/B] will be back, see website or HX.
BB Yoda guys don't need our help, it's kind of easy for them. Same for true jgirl hunters. The same is also true for GFE only guys since they already know which few girls to research. Girls like Baby Cherry and Subin in particular are priced very well for what they offer.
I'll point out that OC is very good at training new HYA and keeping them busy for months if they're good enough, but HYA often end up in LA because it is such a bigger market. It's possible for OC to pick and draft a few girls if they fill a niche.
If you aren't interested in picking up civilian jgirls or kgirls, stop reading here. All my success below happened on one street of Roppongi in Japan (these days you'd go to Shibuya), but it's the same idea if you tried it while clubbing in LA:
[QUOTE=Darell421]..it would be hot to pick up a girl organically at a bar / club.[/QUOTE]
This is a guide on picking up civilian Japanese women. It focuses on ONS in Tokyo with specific examples, but the same skills translate to OTC with jgirls and to some extent kgirls.
[B]Civlian Nampa ONS[/B]
Nampa = picking up a girl, ONS = One night stand
Go to Shibuya's [B]Hub[/B] and/or the club area of [B]Dogenzaka[/B] [U]Friday or Saturday night[/U]. Or a comparable club in LA. Bring your A game, talk to many women and move on if you aren't compatible. Don't come on too strong or too fast. If you have either Looks (handsome) or Service (good at talking), you can do it.
When I was young, I leaned Service but had enough of both. I somehow actually talked girls into going back to my hotel room. I paid attention to what they said, their personality, and what they liked - I gave them what they liked and made them happy. Looks works better in the club, while Service is stronger on the streets outside the club. Since I offer Service over Looks, 2 out of 3 success for me were actually on the busy streets teeming with people.
The basic idea is I talked with many girls, and if a girl actually liked me I would keep talking with her more. If not, I said "nice to meet you" when it was time and move on.
Like kgirls, as we get older our Looks go down and our Service goes up. For that reason, ONS favors young guys.
[B]Vibe Checking[/B]
This is a most basic principle of meeting women. Even if my Looks were C Tier, some girl out there thinks I'm A-Tier while another girl thinks I'm E-Tier Looks. That principle will never change. [B]So, I simply keep talking to the girls who show me that I'm their type.[/B] Pay attention to that, it is [B]Vibe Checking[/B]. We men are up to taste to them.
The club areas (ex: Shibuya's Dogenzaka) attracts a whole variety of girls (I met Viet, Filipino, Korean, etc..), and the girls who show up there are way more open to foreigners than the rest of Japan. Some even hunt foreigners, and many speak English. English is a good and fast filter for openess. If I found a good match, it usually took 30-60 minutes to invite her over.
It's not easy, just 20x easier than picking up civilians in the US. As long as you put in effort and have good manners, you gain about 3 Tiers of Looks no matter your starting point. So if you are "not ugly" looking, then your ONS odds go from almost 0% in the US to 10% in the club district per night. If you are "actually okay" looking and know how to talk to women, your odds go from about 1% in the US to about 20% in Roppongi/Shibuya per night. And so on. At a certain point around S-Tier you approach almost 100% success rate as long as you open your mouth and actually talk to a few women. Meaning you have at least D-Tier Service (you can talk, unskilled, but not unpleasant).
I did bring an S-Tier Looks friend who had F-Tier Service (absolute silence) and failed simply because he was too afraid to talk to even one single girl. I actually started talking to women [I]for him[/I] asking them "What do you think of my friend? Is he cute?" and when they said yes (the rate was extremely high), I brought them in front of my friend and introduced her. She was excited at first, but then he was so nervous he couldn't say a word with her. Come on!
Whereas, I did wingman for another friend and he met his girlfriend through me. I noticed she would be his type and I introduced her to him at the club, and he told me a week later he was dating her. These friends were Japanese locals I knew from college days, and I'm just some guy who visited Japan a few times. All my ONS pickups were done solo without any help, and what happened was after I got bored of it I invited friends to help them get laid too.
[B]The Foreigner Lover's Dream Come True[/B]
Keep in mind we are leveraging multiple advantages by: a) being in Japan, b) being in a club area where women are even thinking of ONS, c) being in Shibuya where many girls actually prefer foreigners. The result of all 3 advantages is a 20x advantage over the US. Remember that [I]some[/I] girls show up to clubs looking to be picked up. Be pleasant and make their wish come true.
[B]Recycling[/B]
I would talk with women and if they weren't into me but were hot, I would boldly ask her if she thought my friend was hot. I was [B]Recycling[/B] hot women rather than tossing them aside when I saw it wasn't going to work out. If that girl said my friend was hot, I brought her over to him and put them together. Now she knew the guy was not some weird bum / creep but my friend at least, which added initial rapport. It was [B]Vibe Checking By Proxy[/B] that I did for them. In this way, the time I wasted talking to most girls did not actually go to waste. The number of wmoen who enjoyed talking to me versus the women who wanted to have sex with me that night was a ratio of about 50:1. That is a lot of Recycling!
As a general rule, for ONS it has to be that same night. If you are actually looking for a real girlfriend, I wouldn't do it at a club. Definitely don't do it at a korg. But, you can learn something at least.
The way I got good at talking with women was strip clubs (US), oppai pubs (Japan), and non-stop practice. That's it. There is a lot of wrong info out there on social media. But back then, the one thing that was true was - just keep talking with women all the time. Including women you're not attracted to, but by chance have to interact with. Be nice, don't be creepy.
Here is a quick video on how to Nampa:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reels/DXIf31dEsNA/[/URL] [B]True Nampa[/B]
The girl in this video has a similar style, voice, and way of talking as [B]MH Yua[/B], though Yua is taller and a bit skinnier. It's important to be polite and note creepy. If she isn't interested after you expressed interest, you just move on:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/reel/DcFk8Q3RU0T/[/URL] [B]When she says no just move on[/B]
The reason is she is telling you her Price is either High or Infinite (it'll never happen), and she has little to offer you. Using the Value formula, it means her value to you is near zero. Don't waste your time, that's all there is to it. If a girl isn't interested, you find someone else. You repeat until you win, simple as that.
When we have some self-respect and eventually find girls who actually like us instead, they end up giving a lot more for a lot less. High Value.
By the way, the book [B]My Secret Life[/B] gives similar advice I'm giving. It was written almost 150 years ago. It is free and public domain. Most of what you see today, they are just selling something and it's not very good.
However, the book is not an easy read if you don't love reading, and the mongering life starts about 1/4 of the way in. When I found something he wrote that worked, I wrote it out here.