Stupid shit in St Louis

[QUOTE=STLguy1980;2824590]I feel more unsafe around the cops to be honest. Don't go even a single mile per hour over the speed limit or they will pull you over. I have been going for a while and I have never had an issue at the clubs at all.[/QUOTE]I used to enjoy the WP clubs on occasion, but had a really bad incident about 5 years ago where I got robbed and carjacked at gunpoint. Needless to say I was shaken up. After it happened I went into the club to call police etc. The bouncer barely.

Flinched and said "oh great another one. 8th one tonight around here. " Cop showed up and confirmed same thing. Mind you this was while back so perhaps it's a bit better now but I'm not going to find out. Turns out I was very lucky and my car was recovered by cops a day later outside a crack house and not even damaged. But a horrible experience.

[QUOTE=OldMongrel;2824500]I've been going to WP clubs for over 20 years and I've never had any sort of problem. Hell, I don't even feel unsafe there.[/QUOTE]I concur. You definitely need to keep your head on the swivle, it is a bad area. But not bad enough to deter me from visiting some of the most liberal strip clubs in the country. 20 years of playing over there and the other strip club hot spots over there. I've had tons of fun, fucked numerous chicks and I've never had any issues.

[QUOTE=Wbhbdt;2832411]I concur. You definitely need to keep your head on the swivle, it is a bad area. But not bad enough to deter me from visiting some of the most liberal strip clubs in the country. 20 years of playing over there and the other strip club hot spots over there. I've had tons of fun, fucked numerous chicks and I've never had any issues.[/QUOTE]One Way in One Way out - tends to deter the process. Security can keep eyes on them. Of Course Blondie's and Dollies. Your a sitting duck if not careful. Lots of cameras at both of these places tho.

[QUOTE=Rodimus54;2823921]You've been to all these clubs but have never been to Missouri? You also give recommendations then ask for recommendations? I'm confused, is part or your post suppose to be a quote?

And I would not consider Wash Park safe, especially when you get down by Dollies.[/QUOTE]I like the black clubs. The experience is different. There's WAY more engagement with the dancers. You can do everything but pull your cock out and fuck them while they are on the stage.

Not a better experience but a different expeience. Would definitely recommend.

[QUOTE=Illinois;2841292]Saw this little hottest yesterday. Totally real, and pics are her and current. She is new to the business and is just doing this for the extra money. She is not a druggie. I cannot say enough good things about her. Young, great personality, beautiful eyes and smile. And a great body. All I was able to do was Mish and doggie and then I popped. Cool girl to talk to also. Please, please, please treat her good. She's not jaded by the biz yet and I'd like to keep it that way. She already has dealt with a couple creeps. Senior members pm for her number. She's needing a little more business. She's the perfect little utr.

[URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/any-late-nighters/20035225[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, she is a Hottie, but what is that on her bed next to the red arrow?

[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2841540]Yes, she is a Hottie, but what is that on her bed next to the red arrow?[/QUOTE]It's not in her ad now. Was it there before and she removed ot after you pointed out the syringe? Is that a nasty sore on her left buttock in the mirror picture?

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=411007&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1458426696

[QUOTE=OldMongrel;2841560]It's not in her ad now. Was it there before and she removed ot after you pointed out the syringe? Is that a nasty sore on her left buttock in the mirror picture?

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=411007&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1458426696[/QUOTE]I can tell you no sores at all anywhere. Her hygiene was great. As far as the needle, it sure looks like one. I'm no expert by any means, but she didn't show any signs of using to me. No sores, super clean, no track marks, etc. She just doesn't seem the type to use drugs at all. Let me know if anyone finds anything out.

[QUOTE=OldMongrel;2841560]It's not in her ad now. Was it there before and she removed ot after you pointed out the syringe? Is that a nasty sore on her left buttock in the mirror picture?

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=411007&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1458426696[/QUOTE]I found the picture on a Backpage ad. What appears to be a nasty sore on her buttock could be just a spot on the mirror.

[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2841540]Yes, she is a Hottie, but what is that on her bed next to the red arrow?[/QUOTE]That picture is of a chick doing dope.

[QUOTE=Illinois;2841602]I can tell you no sores at all anywhere. Her hygiene was great. As far as the needle, it sure looks like one. I'm no expert by any means, but she didn't show any signs of using to me. No sores, super clean, no track marks, etc. She just doesn't seem the type to use drugs at all. Let me know if anyone finds anything out.[/QUOTE]When they start shooting H, they do it in places family friends and co-workers won't notice. In between toes for example. I've heard of girls shooting in their pussy lips.

[QUOTE=KemoSabe;2841540]Yes, she is a Hottie, but what is that on her bed next to the red arrow?[/QUOTE]That there fellows is a needle. We are all smart guys, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that most of these girls use. Wbhbdt is right, new users shoot in places that normal people won't see, between toes, etc. This girl is new to the scene, but it doesn't surprise me she is a user. Sadly we will watch her first hand degrade over time. 6 months from now mongers will be posting how bad they feel for her and how bad shape she is in.

Is a sad cycle guys, but normal, happy, girls with a future don't do this trade, even though some of you would like to think that or dream that.

Be careful and do not take anything for granted. Dangers are always hidden.

[QUOTE=Illinois;2841602]I can tell you no sores at all anywhere. Her hygiene was great. As far as the needle, it sure looks like one. I'm no expert by any means, but she didn't show any signs of using to me. No sores, super clean, no track marks, etc. She just doesn't seem the type to use drugs at all. Let me know if anyone finds anything out.[/QUOTE]Seriously? They don't start to "look like the type to use drugs" until they have been using them for a long while. Read back through these forums and get up to speed. The cash they get isn't being saved for a rainy day. Those kind of pros are few and far between. Most in STL, escort or SW, are supporting something or someone.

[QUOTE=AllNewTome;2843401]Seriously? They don't start to "look like the type to use drugs" until they have been using them for a long while. Read back through these forums and get up to speed. The cash they get isn't being saved for a rainy day. Those kind of pros are few and far between. Most in STL, escort or SW, are supporting something or someone.[/QUOTE]Couldn't have said it better than myself. I think some are in dreamland and think these are girls next door. There is a reason they do what they do.

Be careful and safe as always!

[QUOTE=Illinois;2841602]I can tell you no sores at all anywhere. Her hygiene was great. As far as the needle, it sure looks like one. I'm no expert by any means, but she didn't show any signs of using to me. No sores, super clean, no track marks, etc. She just doesn't seem the type to use drugs at all. Let me know if anyone finds anything out.[/QUOTE]Did you see her scar from open heart surgery!! Did you ask her what caused that?? An infection in her arm. How did she get an infection in her arm? How did her heart get infected? We must use our big heads guys don't be foolish.

[QUOTE=Simplycool;2843071]That there fellows is a needle. We are all smart guys, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that most of these girls use. Wbhbdt is right, new users shoot in places that normal people won't see, between toes, etc. This girl is new to the scene, but it doesn't surprise me she is a user. Sadly we will watch her first hand degrade over time. 6 months from now mongers will be posting how bad they feel for her and how bad shape she is in.

Is a sad cycle guys, but normal, happy, girls with a future don't do this trade, even though some of you would like to think that or dream that.

Be careful and do not take anything for granted. Dangers are always hidden.[/QUOTE]Totally understand your point of view, but it's unfair to say that all girls in this industry are drug users with no future. It is possible to work because you are paying your way through school, need to support a child, or whatever. It happens, and some of these girls are really just nice, normal people who don't do drugs.