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[QUOTE=JustForKicks63;4137416]I've had 2 UTR girls raise their rates significantly over the past 2 weeks. One girl went from 300 to 500 in a week! It's getting tough to be a mongers these days. And expensive.
Play safe.
JFK.[/QUOTE]Allurah's increase wasn't anything crazy like that. The increase was pretty nominal, actually. The amount of money wasn't the issue, it was the principle and the timing.
What is her normal rate?
[QUOTE=KyWildCat86;4136649]Hey guys, had a dream with divine rachel a few days ago. I saw her years ago at a downtown hotel and just saw her at her residence in the clifton area. The driver was a little sketchy but her house is the only one of her end of the street and was nicely set up. Heated table and fireplace that made the outside feel not so bad. We had set up a couple of appointments earlier in the week and she cancelled both last minute so gave me a slight discount. Glad she ended up meeting me.
I asked for two pops, so she gave me one right away, then the rub, then another pop at the end. She did the whole rub with just a thong on, and that ass and titties are just ridiculous. The rub is ok, not the best, not the worst. Lots of oil but she does a good job of cleaning it off with a hot towel. She does some dirty talking while doing the ending. That was the one thing I wasn't a huge fan of. I know some people are into it but I know she's not loving stroking my ego, and frankly, I'm not there for the woman to enjoy herself. I just want to look at a hot ass chick and get my rocks off. Either way, she's wayyyyyyy to hot to not see again. I will be back.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;4137999]Allurah's increase wasn't anything crazy like that. The increase was pretty nominal, actually. The amount of money wasn't the issue, it was the principle and the timing.[/QUOTE]I understand completely and agree. The agreed rate should be the agreed rate!
[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;4137300]Am talking about this one:
[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=77495&cityid=350[/URL]
I texted her about a week ago, at which time she told me her rates. But, between personal stuff and lousy weather, I couldn't go see her last week.
Fast forward to today, we texted back and forth a bit, talked on the phone, and in the process I told her how long I was looking for and when I thought I'd get there. I get to her exit and see I have 3 texts from her. One text had the address, the 2nd text asked when I was going to get there and how long I wanted (I had just told her this, but I suspect she was nervous because her schedule was too tight), and the 3rd text says by the way, my rates have gone up and she told me what they are now.
I told her she should have informed me of the new rates earlier in the process and I cancelled the appointment. I don't know whether she was trying to play me for a sucker, if she was disorganized, or both. I wasn't about to go find out.
As always, YMMV. Stay safe out there.[/QUOTE]Story time. My last few visits with various providers have been so terrible that I've seriously considered taking a step back. My streak of crappy visits started with her back in early November when she was with Rachel under a different name. According to Rachel, I was the first to see her. From the description I was given, she sounded exactly like what I was looking for. For reference I was told by Rachel "she is built just like me. Super busty." I've been seeing Rachel for a long time so I trust her. I'm thinking jackpot.
The crap started about 1. 5 hours prior to my appt. I get a text saying she wants nearly double what we had agreed upon. My immediate reaction was to cancel. Within a few minutes of canceling I got another text agreeing to the old rate. I arrive to see someone that is not as described. She was big in the wrong places and not at all what I like. Big hips / thighs, flabby arms, small upstairs (b cup). I left the room to talk to Rachel because her appearance didn't match. Rachel claimed she mixed Roxy up with her other partner. (I should state, I haven't been to see Rachel since all this happened because I feel like she misled me and broke my trust).
At the time, I chalked a lot of what went down to her being new, but having read recent reports it may be her MO. The performance was terrible. I've had better bjs from a sock. Dry, no spit / lube, no rhythm, no suction, just a whole lot of nothing. It became clear that my pleasure was the last thing on her mind.
Afterwards I spoke to Rachel and expressed my disappointment in:
1) The visit itself. See above.
2) Rachel hyped her up to me. Extensively. From appearance to performance it was the antithesis of what had been described. I flat told her that nothing she had told me was accurate.
3) A short while later I got a text saying they were no longer working together and the reason.
[QUOTE=DaytonGuy1;4136680]She used to work at The Harem in north Dayton and was not bad looking and didn't seem to be on drugs or anything. She used to pull the little guy out and wet him up real good and took whatever cash I had and she never complained. Generally 60 to 100. She offered take out, but I never did. I've seen plenty of bad reviews and she changes her name every so often. I live up north and would not travel to see her.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the Intel.
[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;4137999]Allurah's increase wasn't anything crazy like that. The increase was pretty nominal, actually. The amount of money wasn't the issue, it was the principle and the timing.[/QUOTE]You should have stated the increase was nominal in your initial report. She didn't double the rate or anything crazy. I do agree she should not change after it is set. But now you got the el cheapo crowd that dominates this market going crazy. No wonder hot chicks bypass Cincy often as they go to Columbus and Cleveland without fail.
Guys listen, pay for what you can afford and leave better looking, better performing. Better, better, better for those of us that can.
I have met Allurah once and will go back. And especially since she is a smart enough as a business person to understand supply and demand. Her product is in demand she can ask for more. God Bless America!
[QUOTE=GSpotPhun;4138414]You should have stated the increase was nominal in your initial report. She didn't double the rate or anything crazy. I do agree she should not change after it is set. But now you got the el cheapo crowd that dominates this market going crazy. No wonder hot chicks bypass Cincy often as they go to Columbus and Cleveland without fail.
Guys listen, pay for what you can afford and leave better looking, better performing. Better, better, better for those of us that can.
I have met Allurah once and will go back. And especially since she is a smart enough as a business person to understand supply and demand. Her product is in demand she can ask for more. God Bless America![/QUOTE]It's readily apparent some people have more money than sense. Nobody is trying to restrain you from throwing bad money after bad. But make it a tip. And don't drive the market by being blinded. No Wonder some women come down with gps. This post smacks of payola.
[QUOTE=GSpotPhun;4138414]You should have stated the increase was nominal in your initial report. She didn't double the rate or anything crazy. I do agree she should not change after it is set. But now you got the el cheapo crowd that dominates this market going crazy. No wonder hot chicks bypass Cincy often as they go to Columbus and Cleveland without fail.
Guys listen, pay for what you can afford and leave better looking, better performing. Better, better, better for those of us that can.
I have met Allurah once and will go back. And especially since she is a smart enough as a business person to understand supply and demand. Her product is in demand she can ask for more. God Bless America![/QUOTE]If she would have told me in her earlier texts, or even on the phone right before I started driving in her general direction that her rates had increased, I would have kept the appointment. Telling me on the back end, after I'd told her I was on my way was not cool.
And, who's to say she wouldn't have tried raising her rates again when I got to the door?
I'm glad you enjoyed her company. This may well be an isolated case with an otherwise good provider. Time will tell. Thank you for your contributions to this forum.
[QUOTE=ToddCincy;4136874]Just so we can avoid some of the misunderstandings that arose about "pretty Cameron".
This woman has multiple ads, and they seem to convey different angles. At least one I saw depicts a woman with rolls of fat and cellulite. In another one, her face looks kind of rough.
Maybe this one is better avoided, especially given her legal troubles?[/QUOTE]I'm certain she would not meet Todd Cincy's exacting standards. She doesn't even meet my far lower standards. I just happened to see her because she was sharing space with another provider. I'm not really interested in strictly twentysomethings with perfect bodies, because my experience is that they're more likely to suffer from GPS and less likely to actually be fun in the sack. I like a wide variety of women who may not be perfect looking, or even far from perfect, but I feel some chemistry with. On the other hand, I want to be attracted to them, and BadKookie or however you spell her handle, is another one where I think the raves have gotten ahead of the reality maybe. But it's a YMMV world, and I'm not doubting that other guys have had a good time.
Had a date with Jessie29 last week. Communication was not seamless and could be improved. Hour incall at a home in Covington / Ludlow area. The accommodations are sparse but not the worst or the best. Dogs were present in the home but not a problem. She is a nice girl and has a great body and gives a decent BBBJ and covered FS. MPOPS was on the menu with BBBJWCIM for the 2nd pop. She was not a fan of CIM and ran to the garbage can with the prize in her mouth and spit like she had botulism in her mouth. Clean up supplies were lacking. She is GFE, but over priced in my opinion. The pic of her in the red is current and the bed she is standing on is the bed we played on.
Sounds familiar.
[QUOTE=KnottyWood;4136608]She used to be a stripper at cheeks in the Dayton area, I met her for take out at a motel and made the mistake of paying first, she did not dash but I ended up with a bad case of blue balls.[/QUOTE]
Set an appointment with this girl a couple times. She asks how old you are and your race as verification. The first time, we agreed on a time and donation and when I arrive, crickets. She texts me back the next day and I am dumb enough to go back. I get to her room and she at least 7 months pregnant. Didn't mention it once while setting up our meeting and her photos on her ads are all of her not pregnant. I told her I wasn't interested and she goes off that I wasted her time and I should at least give her something for the time I wasted. I obviously declined and told her that she needs to say she is pregnant up front and not wait until someone shows up.
She got upset and told me I would be blacklisted. As I was leaving she yelled something about my race and implied she was armed and not to come around anymore. Clearly a rational provider.
[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;4138766]I'm certain she would not meet Todd Cincy's exacting standards. I'm not really interested in strictly twentysomethings with perfect bodies, because my experience is that they're more likely to suffer from GPS and less likely to actually be fun in the sack. I like a wide variety of women who may not be perfect looking, or even far from perfect, but I feel some chemistry with. On the other hand, I want to be attracted to them, and BadKookie or however you spell her handle, is another one where I think the raves have gotten ahead of the reality maybe. But it's a YMMV world, and I'm not doubting that other guys have had a good time.[/QUOTE]I think it's good to acknowledge that there is some diversity in what individual men prioritize in a provider. I, too, am sensitive on price. There is presently a really hot escort on Eros, Bianca Carlilse. She is exactly my type: a high-end twenty something. But at $500 per hour, I am hesitant to pull the trigger. (I notice that most of the more expensive escorts have to travel, because when you're charging that kind of coin, you have a limited market in any given area.).
That said, I think it would be unfortunate if USAG were to degenerate into an exclusively low-end venue, filled with obese and rough-looking girls. That's a race to the bottom.
Historically, I think Steve of EE strikes a good balance: His girls have been reasonably thin, reasonably young, and moderately priced. I remember his girl Cat, of a few years ago. She wasn't an aloof supermodel. But she *was* a slender, drug-free young woman who performed enthusiastically. Why assume that a provider has to be old, fat, or an obvious addict in order to be a good performer? Steve has proved otherwise many times. (Cherry Daquari proves that, too.).
In summary, then, I don't think we need "exacting standards". We don't need supermodels, and we're unlikely to get supermodels here, anyway. But I would make the case for "minimal standards": I would wager that most of us don't want the extreme low-end of the market. We want more of what EE provides.
How about a link so we know exactly who you are speaking of? I know some guys just aren't into it but IMHO prego sex can be great and in my years in this hobby and first wife prego sex was some of the best ever. Stay safe, Daz.
[QUOTE=Newbie78;4139421]Set an appointment with this girl a couple times. She asks how old you are and your race as verification. The first time, we agreed on a time and donation and when I arrive, crickets. She texts me back the next day and I am dumb enough to go back. I get to her room and she at least 7 months pregnant. Didn't mention it once while setting up our meeting and her photos on her ads are all of her not pregnant. I told her I wasn't interested and she goes off that I wasted her time and I should at least give her something for the time I wasted. I obviously declined and told her that she needs to say she is pregnant up front and not wait until someone shows up.
She got upset and told me I would be blacklisted. As I was leaving she yelled something about my race and implied she was armed and not to come around anymore. Clearly a rational provider.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ToddCincy;4139493]I think it's good to acknowledge that there is some diversity in what individual men prioritize in a provider. I, too, am sensitive on price. There is presently a really hot escort on Eros, Bianca Carlilse. She is exactly my type: a high-end twenty something. But at $500 per hour, I am hesitant to pull the trigger. (I notice that most of the more expensive escorts have to travel, because when you're charging that kind of coin, you have a limited market in any given area.).
That said, I think it would be unfortunate if USAG were to degenerate into an exclusively low-end venue, filled with obese and rough-looking girls. That's a race to the bottom.
Historically, I think Steve of EE strikes a good balance: His girls have been reasonably thin, reasonably young, and moderately priced. I remember his girl Cat, of a few years ago. She wasn't an aloof supermodel. But she *was* a slender, drug-free young woman who performed enthusiastically. Why assume that a provider has to be old, fat, or an obvious addict in order to be a good performer? Steve has proved otherwise many times. (Cherry Daquari proves that, too.).
In summary, then, I don't think we need "exacting standards". We don't need supermodels, and we're unlikely to get supermodels here, anyway. But I would make the case for "minimal standards": I would wager that most of us don't want the extreme low-end of the market. We want more of what EE provides.[/QUOTE]Cat was my ATF when she was in the business. Saw her probably more than a dozen times.