Korean Bar Reports

[QUOTE=MitsFunai;3017017]Have witnessed the following during my decades in the KB:

1. Green grocer businessman spending $600-700 nightly (late '70's); he could afford it.

2. Addict for KBG spends $100 nightly, 360 days / year ('80's).

3. Contractor LVB buys condo for KBG; total of $4 million until he loses family and business; KBG loses condo and cash in Atlantic City.

4. City manager for Ewa Villages spends $2000 nightly, buys bar for KBG ($150,000), BMW sedan, $700,000 Las Vegas on player card; he makes $50,000 salary; currently spending life in prison (embezzled $10-11 million).

5. Son of doctors spends all of parents' assets on KBG; she dumps him for another dummy after he runs out of funds (approx. $2-3 million).

6. Painting contractor LVB amasses $40,000 debt on two credit cards; alcoholic, no can work.

7. And the beat goes on.[/QUOTE]Let me contribute:

Owner of a fish distribution business; leaves family, spends their fortune, murders girl and himself.

It was from one of the girls at Back to Vegas. I was told she caught a cab home, but another girl told me she got a ride home from her BF. Guys don't be fool.

Fox is super sexy. Waiting for the right day to go room with her. Wonder if she does her hopping while in room?

[QUOTE=Allbust;3017072]Don't tell it was the fox that did this to you? I wasnt able to make to town this past Saturday to see the action.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WarriorForLife;3015744]I am fed up of the BS these BGs pull these days, thinking of quit going to bar for a while.

I spend $180 on a BG the other night, she said after work " you take me home" I waited for her and it turned out someone told me she caught a cab home. What a wasted of my time.

Now I know why bars are so slow. Pepole are fed up, girls are spoiled, too expansive of spending and most time you don't get anything except BS from these princesses.[/QUOTE]Especially if the bar was busy, a lot of guys were told that, not only you.

It's okay man. Don't worry about not being her free taxi; it's been happening for literally decades, since before this girl was even born. It would have been more a waste of your time (and fuel) had you driven her home. If you were drinking, the more you drive around unnecessarily, the more chance you have to get pulled over. You can best believe she wouldn't give 2 shits about that.

Please excuse me, I'm very new to the scene.

I've read a few threads and perceive a negative tone towards the services received.

When I indulge and patron these establishments, the experience is fairly positive. With that being said.

I have also never received any sexual gratification although I've heard rumors.

I would like to spark a conversation on the topic of, and more importantly its origins.

I understand that these establishments, 'they employ primarily female staff and cater to males seeking drinks and attentive conversation. " So, if someone is less than satisfied because much kala was spend without getting more than drinks and conversation, who is to blame?

Again, I'm new and if this offends anyone, please delete.

Any advice from senior members on my ignorance is appreciated as well.

[QUOTE]Fox is super sexy. Waiting for the right day to go room with her. Wonder if she does her hopping while in room?[/QUOTE]Most likely. I wouldn't put it past her. Going be sip sip and run away to the floor tables.

[QUOTE=ChiChiMon;3018450]Please excuse me, I'm very new to the scene.

I've read a few threads and perceive a negative tone towards the services received.

When I indulge and patron these establishments, the experience is fairly positive. With that being said.

I have also never received any sexual gratification although I've heard rumors.

I would like to spark a conversation on the topic of, and more importantly its origins.

I understand that these establishments, 'they employ primarily female staff and cater to males seeking drinks and attentive conversation. " So, if someone is less than satisfied because much kala was spend without getting more than drinks and conversation, who is to blame?

Again, I'm new and if this offends anyone, please delete.

Any advice from senior members on my ignorance is appreciated as well.[/QUOTE]Yes there are people who are purely pissed because they get no play after much money spent. However, other things such as girl gets a shot, takes the shot, all within 5 minutes or less then asks for another or just goes on to her next prey. Then you got those who pretend you mean more to them than just a customer. Many will even go out in public with customers if they spoil them at the mall and fine dining. It's one thing if the girl makes it straight it's just a business relationship, it's another when manipulating ones feelings and taking business outside the bar. Perhaps you are like me and just accept when conversing with these girls, it's just pure fun for the night. I believe the girls can see that in certain customers, and therefore won't push them like how they do with other fools. However, that still doesn't give them the right to take advantage with the weak and play with their emotions. I was like you when I first started. I thought it was more men being ignorant than the girls tactics. But as you experience more girls and get attached to a few, you will see the ugly side of them. I think it's worse now than it's ever been since you have to take care of the girl before you get any kind of customer service from them.

[QUOTE=WarriorForLife;3015744]I am fed up of the BS these BGs pull these days, thinking of quit going to bar for a while.

I spend $180 on a BG the other night, she said after work " you take me home" I waited for her and it turned out someone told me she caught a cab home. What a wasted of my time.

Now I know why bars are so slow. Pepole are fed up, girls are spoiled, too expansive of spending and most time you don't get anything except BS from these princesses.[/QUOTE]That's the name of the game. No one to blame but yourself LOL.

If you have a KBG as your GF, chances are "you might not the only one" she has.

Most girls will tell you anything just to make money, they will dry your wallet up and dump you.

Some brother here said recycled food such as peanuts and chips, uneaten leftover snack serving to next guy.

Ampty out Soju and beer and replace it with tea so they can drink all night without getting drunk.

Table hopping is comon practice these days, ask for drink every 5 minutes, if you don't buy then they will hop on to the next Joe.

The list goes on. One last thing, why do you think bars business are so poor right now? People begin to see the light.

[QUOTE=ChiChiMon;3018450]Please excuse me, I'm very new to the scene.

I've read a few threads and perceive a negative tone towards the services received.

When I indulge and patron these establishments, the experience is fairly positive. With that being said.

I have also never received any sexual gratification although I've heard rumors.

I would like to spark a conversation on the topic of, and more importantly its origins.

I understand that these establishments, 'they employ primarily female staff and cater to males seeking drinks and attentive conversation. " So, if someone is less than satisfied because much kala was spend without getting more than drinks and conversation, who is to blame?

Again, I'm new and if this offends anyone, please delete.

Any advice from senior members on my ignorance is appreciated as well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blade82;3018610]Yes there are people who are purely pissed because they get no play after much money spent. However, other things such as girl gets a shot, takes the shot, all within 5 minutes or less then asks for another or just goes on to her next prey. Then you got those who pretend you mean more to them than just a customer. Many will even go out in public with customers if they spoil them at the mall and fine dining. It's one thing if the girl makes it straight it's just a business relationship, it's another when manipulating ones feelings and taking business outside the bar. Perhaps you are like me and just accept when conversing with these girls, it's just pure fun for the night. I believe the girls can see that in certain customers, and therefore won't push them like how they do with other fools. However, that still doesn't give them the right to take advantage with the weak and play with their emotions. I was like you when I first started. I thought it was more men being ignorant than the girls tactics. But as you experience more girls and get attached to a few, you will see the ugly side of them. I think it's worse now than it's ever been since you have to take care of the girl before you get any kind of customer service from them.[/QUOTE]Hmmm, I surly can empathize with being 'hustled'. In which the best defense would be to spend on a personality that's pleasing than irritating.

Is it safe to say that if a generic standard was created by us, the clients, and when hostess' operate outside that with respect to service, by default, we stop entertaining them and eventually that will filter out the perceived negative behavior / hostess? Unless, one is attracted to the pain / game.

This forum is a great tool for any Mon.-ger to have. It directly facilitates an open communication channel which surly is an advantage. Would it be in the best interest to create or rename a thread to shady baR-maids and bar tricks?

[QUOTE=ChiChiMon;3018852]Hmmm, I surly can empathize with being 'hustled'. In which the best defense would be to spend on a personality that's pleasing than irritating.

Is it safe to say that if a generic standard was created by us, the clients, and when hostess' operate outside that with respect to service, by default, we stop entertaining them and eventually that will filter out the perceived negative behavior / hostess? Unless, one is attracted to the pain / game.

This forum is a great tool for any Mon.-ger to have. It directly facilitates an open communication channel which surly is an advantage. Would it be in the best interest to create or rename a thread to shady baR-maids and bar tricks?[/QUOTE]Short answer. Nope. Not going to happen. There was / is a thread (tactics & discussions) that went into the subject matter of tricks, tactics, etc. Some of us tried to pass on knowledge and were "dissed" to a frustration point that it became pointless. There is no group / brotherhood. You are on your own. Read the forum. Gleen what you can and never pay with plastic. That's it. Good luck.

Ss.

[QUOTE=Shipshape;3019324]Short answer. Nope. Not going to happen. There was / is a thread (tactics & discussions) that went into the subject matter of tricks, tactics, etc. Some of us tried to pass on knowledge and were "dissed" to a frustration point that it became pointless. There is no group / brotherhood. You are on your own. Read the forum. Gleen what you can and never pay with plastic. That's it. Good luck.

Ss.[/QUOTE]LOL, thank you for the wisdom. I got burned couple times and didn't realize it till later so now I'm a cash only kind of guy.

$ for me, $$ for you. So far it's the best insurance but only works if you apply rule 1.

NEVER play w / PLASTIC.

Equally applies to plastic personalities.

[QUOTE=ChiChiMon;3019373]LOL, thank you for the wisdom. I got burned couple times and didn't realize it till later so now I'm a cash only kind of guy.

$ for me, $$ for you. So far it's the best insurance but only works if you apply rule 1.

NEVER play w / PLASTIC.

Equally applies to plastic personalities.[/QUOTE]I myself have played with plastic a few times, but was very cautious. It wasn't for as much as some guys would charge but still I was very cautious. They tried to overcharge me but I confronted them right away. I know my rights and would have gone the extra mile had they not played ball with me. I know it can be hard for people to be confrontational in these situations, especially with a high bill and a good time. Perhaps the stereotype of Hawaii people being too nice and laid back isn't so off after all. But that is what you have to do after having a few drinks and putting your plastic on the line. I know some will say all the trouble on fighting isn't worth the time and money. But to me it's not always about the money, it's about principal. It's like recently my house got robbed, the robbers didn't have much time so not much was taken. It was a very odd and fast robbery so most of the things missing I won't miss it. But I was still super pissed because of the violated feeling on someone breaking into my own home. Difference is I had no control over that situation. If a bar or any business for that matter robs me, I got nobody else to blame but myself if I let that go because there are things I can do to stop it.

Please learn from my mistake. Treat it like you are going into a casino. Only bring what you want to spend.

I know not to pay with plastic but I've been there having a good time and the wallet just opens up and I spend more than I expected. I end up broke and feeling ill for spend $$$ talking to some bar girl! No happy ending or anything. I know it is the cost for talking to some hot girls (sometimes) but I've gone to Mai Tai and Waikis to buy girls drinks and talk to them. It would be a more interesting conversation and I did hook up once with this cute Chinese Canadian girl.

[QUOTE=ChiChiMon;3019373]LOL, thank you for the wisdom. I got burned couple times and didn't realize it till later so now I'm a cash only kind of guy.

$ for me, $$ for you. So far it's the best insurance but only works if you apply rule 1.

NEVER play w / PLASTIC.

Equally applies to plastic personalities.[/QUOTE]Of course rule #2 should be considered as well. No tab, pay as you go. Watch the girls at the end of the night figuring out a bar tab. They eye it, judge how drunk the client is and then add a few more (or a lot more) girls drinkees on. Of course if you prefer to end an otherwise fun evening arguing over a tab well then nevermind rules #1 and #2.

Ss.

Conclusion.

For the ultimate experience on your night out with minimum disappointments.

Follow rules 1,2,3 carefully.

1. Never play with Plastic.

2. Head to Rejuve, Happiness, Plus Spa for overall great experience without the Drama.

3. Enjoy drinks and attentive conversations. If a feeling of disrespect is present, apply 3 strike rule.

4. Asia Adult Tour, 10 days, pack icy hot for rub on your nutz after triathlon sessions.