A few tips I've learned over the years.
So I've gotten a few PMs asking about different dancers or recommendations for Bogies and Henry's. A couple of said requests have included some complaints about services offered or prices quoted. I've been reading these boards for a while and tried a couple of recommendations given over the years but haven't contributed much only because until recently, most of the dancers I have fun with are pretty well known. I thought I might share some things I've learned over the years that have helped me win some of these dancers over.
1. Don't be an asshole. I know this sounds stupid but I constantly hear these girls complain about guys that come in, act like an asshole, treat them like shit, and then get mad when they don't get what they want. Don't get me wrong, there are some dancers that I honestly don't talk to because they are shitty human beings, but I'm pretty nice with all of them. Hell I'm friends with a handful of them (I know, I know, strippers aren't your friends, they just want your money. But I honestly am friends with a handful of them). Basically the way it works with me, I treat them like human beings and not * / crack heads / pieces of shit. I never tell a dancer she can't sit down, I'll always have at least a little conversation, I'll even buy a drink here and there. And I always tip bartenders and waitresses. I know some of you are probably saying "why would you spend that much time and / or money on these chicks?" Well it helps because now nobody will say "oh he's cheap, don't waste your time with him" or "he's an asshole, I won't talk to him again. " This also comes in handy when it comes to price negotiations.
2. Negotiating. Some people like negotiating on the floor before going back to the VIP. I prefer to negotiate in the VIP. The reason being, if we can't come to an agreement, it only costs $20-40. But when we're already back there, a girl is more likely to come down on her price then when we're on the floor. If we are on the floor and she isn't thrilled about my offer, she can get up and try the next guy. But if we're already upstairs and half of her outfit is already off, it's easier to accept the lower price. Especially when she probably thinks it'll only take a couple songs. The way I usually try to handle it is when she inevitably asks if I want any kind of extras, I ask it depends on what costs what. When she gives me her prices, if I think they are too high I'll tell her that I don't have it to spend. She'll usually counter with "well how much do you have" and I'll pick a number that isn't too low, but is at least more comfortable for me. Keep in mind, my limit for everything (BJ + FS) is $$. I've paid less, and on a couple occasions over the years I've paid a little bit more but never more that $$5. I've had girls try and quote me as high as $$ and when it's that high I don't even counter. Why not counter you ask. Because I feel that when you low-ball them too much, they won't put in the effort to keep you coming back. They don't care if you come back for more when they can get what they want from the next guy. Also, when you low-ball some of these girls too hard you're labeled as too cheap. All of these girls talk and they will warn the other girls to stay away from the guys that don't want to spend any money. Same with the staff. When the dancers hear the waitresses and bartenders complain "that guy has been here for over an hour and has only bought one drink" or "those guys have bought like 3 rounds and only tipped me two dollars" they assume they are cheap and won't spend any money.
3. Spending. I touched on this a little bit earlier but, stop trying to make it out of the bar without spending any money. Buy drinks (I know, they're overpriced), tip the girls on stage (at least if you're interested), tip the staff more than a dollar. You have to remember, these dancers are interested in money. If you act like you don't have any, they won't be interested in you. Tipping girls on stage shows interest and these days, the girls don't hustle like they used to. Also, when you tip on stage, you're signaling that you want some attention. If not from the girl on stage, from someone. Tipping the staff can actually help out if you're trying to get a dancers attention. Now any waitress will flag down a dancer for you, especially with a little tip. But if you've been tipping the entire time you've been there, the waitress will let the dancer know you're not cheap and she'll actually be interested in taking you to the VIP.
After reading this over, I know it sounds a little preachy. Hell it almost sounds like I work for one of the clubs and I'm trying to get you guys to spend more money. But honestly this has been what's worked for me over the years. I pretty much always have options when I walk in the bar. I'm not always interested in the options that are presented to me, but they're always there.
