Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;6711225]What I've also noticed is, when she lets newbies start to pick their targets on their own, if they pick me, she'll subtly steer them away: She knows I've never been a fan of her, have a kind of particular taste, and have my few regular girls I like. So I think she influences the other dancers to not go to me, too.[/QUOTE]You are overthinking things. Don't wait for dancers to come to you, ask the dancer you want to stop by. Maybe once or twice have I ever heard from a dancer that they didn't ask if I wanted a dance because they heard I don't get dances. Each time I answered, "I get plenty of dances, but only from dancers I like. ".

[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;6711225]Furthermore, dancers talk with the bouncers. Bouncers recommend customers to the dancers. The door staff gets to know you. All of that. They're there three, four nights a week. They know each other. They talk. They start picking up on who the regulars are. They track their tendencies. And if they make a decision about you, one bad seed can influence the whole group.[/QUOTE]Again, you are overthinking things. Bouncers ignore dancer drama. What you are thinking of are floor managers, which some clubs have. Floor managers make sure the dancers are moving around and direct the prettier ones to groups and parties. Personally, I prefer that these idiots to not direct them towards me. The few times a dancer was directed towards me, she has typically been new and lame, or expensive.

[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;6711225]Being a regular is sometimes about playing the long game. You have to see the ebbs and flows. It can truly be a game of chess sometimes. Got to think about it a few different ways.[/QUOTE]You might want to reconsider how you approach these clubs. I have been a regular at many clubs, in Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Detroit over the years. This includes the so called "upscale" clubs you seem to visit, and I have never had to play the long game. Dancers quickly learn who the regulars are who spends money and gravitate towards them.

Even when I visit an out of state club for the first time I rarely have problems finding a good dancer.

[QUOTE=TimeTwist;6711358]Don't wait for dancers to come to you, ask the dancer you want to stop by.[/QUOTE]A couple things:

First off, it's more than just whether they come to your or not. It's how receptive they are to you, no matter who starts the conversation. I've had dancers where I've tried to initiate the conversation and gotten a very cold shoulder. If I want that feeling of invalidation, I can just go fail trying to hit on non-dancers at a regular bar. I'll probably pay less for cover, too.

Receptiveness is particularly important in a place like Detroit with negotiation. When negotiation comes into play, the lady has more power. If she doesn't want to do anything with you, she can set her price high and basically shut you out.

Secondly, though, I know this sounds like a simplistic answer but — [I]I don't wanna[/I].

One of the reasons I like the club over just going out to try and pick up civvy chicks is because the girls come to you. I like that better. It takes away the awkwardness of having to come up with an opening line, deal with her potentially shooting you down, all of that.

Granted, I will go after what I want sometimes, but in a different way. Usually, my way of making it clear is by tipping the ladies I like when they're on stage, often with a message of, "Come find me when you're free. " Or, if I see a woman I want to get dances from sitting around alone, I'll approach.

But yeah, part of what I like about the club is the fact I can be passive for a change. And yes, that also means turning down dancers I don't want dances from. "I have to tell you, I'm waiting on someone. " That gets the message across quickly.

[QUOTE=TimeTwist;6711358]Bouncers ignore dancer drama. What you are thinking of are floor managers, which some clubs have. Floor managers make sure the dancers are moving around and direct the prettier ones to groups and parties. Personally, I prefer that these idiots to not direct them towards me. The few times a dancer was directed towards me, she has typically been new and lame, or expensive.[/QUOTE]The places I'm thinking of, floor hosts and bouncers are largely interchangeable. They have radios to drive business, but also are all able to step up if a situation happens. They spend a lot more time being hosts than bouncers, but I think of them as bouncers because I think of all big dudes as bouncers. Semantics.

At a different club I frequent regularly, one of the floor hosts, as you put it (but also a guy who wrestled in college and can kick ass if needed), knows my type and will send them my way if he senses a good match. But he also knows, unless there's something I want to find, I largely want to be left alone to talk to the lingerie-clad barmaid and nurse my beer. He also knows I'm a roamer, too. I'll walk the club to search for something I want.

[QUOTE=TimeTwist;6711358]You might want to reconsider how you approach these clubs. I have been a regular at many clubs, in Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Detroit over the years. This includes the so called "upscale" clubs you seem to visit, and I have never had to play the long game. Dancers quickly learn who the regulars are who spends money and gravitate towards them.[/QUOTE]You're spot on about the dancers, but you leave one piece of the equation out: Yes, dancers gravitate toward those who spend money. I don't want to spend money!

I'm not a super-rich guy who can just toss cash willy-nilly. I save up to do a few VIPs when I make my way to Detroit. In most other cities, I'm not doing rooms, just dances, and just a few a night. I have to pick and choose and try and get the best bang for my buck on my budget. So I have to strategize to work around that.

[QUOTE=TimeTwist;6711358]Even when I visit an out of state club for the first time I rarely have problems finding a good dancer.[/QUOTE]The other thing I am is picky.

I want my type — a type that's going out of style at clubs, as I want the girl with it all: Looks and a bust, but also sensuality, a good grind, good hair, a good face, a good smile, a brain and the ability to hold a conversation and flirt, and so on. A growing percentage of my club trips result in me saying, "Nope, none of the girls here tonight are worth spending my money on. " I don't like to settle.

When you have high standards and low funds, you've got to try and make up the gap. I try to do that with strategy.

You say I overthink. I say I have to, and that it serves me well because I think I get further, with better quality ladies and less cash, than most others. But it does mean there are times I have to use workarounds, focus on some clubs over others for a while, and so on.

[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;6711225]Being a regular is sometimes about playing the long game. You have to see the ebbs and flows. It can truly be a game of chess sometimes. Got to think about it a few different ways.[/QUOTE]This feels like it could be a little bit too galaxy-brained to be realistic, but for what it's worth, I enjoyed your whole post and it does make me think a little bit more deeply about experiences I've had at some of the Detroit clubs.

Not sure if anyone else here will agree, but I feel like at most of the clubs here, dancer turnover is far slower than any sort of established 'average'. Girls do tend to stick around a bit longer here, and from what I've gleaned from the dancers I've talked about this with, they tend to leave a club when they run into issues with the other dancers more so than any other reason. Or, at least, those are the sorts of stories that I'm told.

With that in mind, I've found that building relationships with 3-4 different girls in a club that I want to frequent has paid some pretty good dividends, even if I don't always patronize those girls in the VIP. I had a pretty fun thing going with a girl at Bogie's for a while, who I expressly told wasn't really my type, but was fun to talk to and I'd buy a beer for her sometimes when it was slow. She'd hang out and chat, and we'd just shoot the shit or evaluate the talent in there on those days. If I told her I liked the look of someone, she'd give me the scoop on them, and a few times went and grabbed them off the pole to come and talk to me. She probably snatched a few bucks from their donation afterwards, lmao. Savvy chick.

Strip club politics can be pretty interesting when you dig into it. I'm going to be attending the Criket a little bit more often over the next few months, and will try to build similar bridges with talent there that I enjoy.

I see these peelers go on facebook or instagram live while working and they can be possesive of regular customers. Saying things like, that girl better not steal my regular. Or he better spend all his money on me today. All while I'm over here looking for the hot new thing.

Hey all, I live a few hours south but I've been lurking here for a while. I'm going to be in the Detroit area next weekend for work and wanted to try hitting up FC / LS. Any advice for someone who's never been to either location before?

[QUOTE=SomeNobody;6711517]Hey all, I live a few hours south but I've been lurking here for a while. I'm going to be in the Detroit area next weekend for work and wanted to try hitting up FC / LS. Any advice for someone who's never been to either location before?[/QUOTE]Lots of people like these clubs. Both of them require you give them your car keys, you can't even park down the street and walk in. Expect to have stuff stolen from your vehicle. If you and a dancer have a disagreement about what you owe her the club will always side with the dancer (you're easier to replace than she is), you won't get your keys until you make her happy. Be sure to report back on your experience!

[QUOTE=Korlock;6711487]I've found that building relationships with 3-4 different girls in a club that I want to frequent has paid some pretty good dividends, even if I don't always patronize those girls in the VIP. I had a pretty fun thing going with a girl at Bogie's for a while, who I expressly told wasn't really my type, but was fun to talk to and I'd buy a beer for her sometimes when it was slow. She'd hang out and chat, and we'd just shoot the shit or evaluate the talent in there on those days. If I told her I liked the look of someone, she'd give me the scoop on them, and a few times went and grabbed them off the pole to come and talk to me. She probably snatched a few bucks from their donation afterwards, lmao. Savvy chick.[/QUOTE]Exactly.

I've had dancers in that same boat: Not my type for dances or more, but I've been willing to humor them if they're good conversation and tip them for their time. In return, they've been an asset in other ways.

I'm a believer we should all be more analytical generally. For me, the process starts before I even go to the club. Case in point with Chicago, there are four clubs I'll frequent: Two within a couple blocks of each other, one about a half an hour to the south of those, and another about 20 minutes to the south of that. Each has it's advantages and disadvantages:

- The first club knows me well enough that they comp my cover. A floor host / bouncer there also knew me well enough that he'd talk baseball with me and buy me a beer -- he just left there, unfortunately. That's the club with the twins and the toothy brunette. My favorite there is a Romanian MILF who gives a spectacular grind. Definitely a top-five all time for me. However, sometimes, I'm not in the mood for her if I feel like she's fallen into a routine and I won't be surprised by what she does. I have her E-mail and can find out if she's in if I E-mail her a few days ahead of time, but I'm not always that forward-thinking. If she's not there, most of the other talent doesn't do it for me.

- The second club is just down the street. Never comped cover. I'm not a huge fan of that club, but it's risk / reward scenario in terms of talent as they have a few hot girls, including a blonde spinner who sometimes flips my lid and sometimes doesn't. Probably my least favorite of the four choices. Worth it sometimes to see if there's new talent, but the way the girls are coached to not converse as much as get to the point quickly there bothers me.

- The third club is my favorite when it has good talent. Big place that knows me well enough to comp me cover and let me sit in the nicer upstairs section of the club whenever I go -- not exactly a VIP section, but a more-exclusive area with its own bar. Thing is, though, they have the most talent turnover. Plus they have more regular girls who I've either repeatedly passed on or tried out and was like, "Eh, not worth trying again. " They had a spectacular German / Brazilian mix blonde who only came in once in a while for a long time and was amazing conversation in multiple languages, including the language of dance and sensuality. But since she's seemed to give up the business, the place hasn't been as good to me as it was. It's not that the talent is overall bad or not plentiful. They're just not finding my type.

- The fourth club is the furthest away to the point where getting home after a visit is a chore. I'm more apt to go if I'm staying in that part of the city rather than coming from the north as I often am. Good news is, extras are sometimes available. Bad news is, it's a long drive, the extras are costly and there's one particular dancer there who will really glom onto me and not let me go until I've taken her back for said extras. Blonde, small MILF, new tits and talented but persistent and not cheap. Lays the charm on so think that it starts to feel a little too fake, and very difficult to make go away once she's spotted me. I can text her and see if she's in, but to be honest, I sometimes prefer to go when she says she's not. It's expensive enough that it's just not an option for me sometimes.

Before I decide to head to the club on the Friday or Saturday nights I work, I have to decide which place I'm in the mood for. Do I have the cash and time and am in the mood for the blonde who will drain it all along with something else? Do I want the spectacular Romanian with the grind? Am I in the mood to see if I can find some new & different talent? How far do I want to drive?

I think a lot of you Detroiters have to make similar decisions, too. Do I want to troll Bogies or H8 and see if I can get a deal but also come away smelling like an ashtray? Do I want to try FC or LS and get a super hot chick but possibly lose half my fortune or not be able to negotiate down and get nothing? Do I want to go in-between to someplace like Criket or BT's? You try to match the experience to what you want on that particular night.

[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;6711830]Exactly.

I've had dancers in that same boat: Not my type for dances or more, but I've been willing to humor them if they're good conversation and tip them for their time. In return, they've been an asset in other ways.

I'm a believer we should all be more analytical generally. For me, the process starts before I even go to the club. Case in point with Chicago, there are four clubs I'll frequent: Two within a couple blocks of each other, one about a half an hour to the south of those, and another about 20 minutes to the south of that. Each has it's advantages and disadvantages:

- The first club knows me well enough that they comp my cover. A floor host / bouncer there also knew me well enough that he'd talk baseball with me and buy me a beer -- he just left there, unfortunately. That's the club with the twins and the toothy brunette. My favorite there is a Romanian MILF who gives a spectacular grind. Definitely a top-five all time for me. However, sometimes, I'm not in the mood for her if I feel like she's fallen into a routine and I won't be surprised by what she does. I have her E-mail and can find out if she's in if I E-mail her a few days ahead of time, but I'm not always that forward-thinking. If she's not there, most of the other talent doesn't do it for me.

- The second club is just down the street. Never comped cover. I'm not a huge fan of that club, but it's risk / reward scenario in terms of talent as they have a few hot girls, including a blonde spinner who sometimes flips my lid and sometimes doesn't. Probably my least favorite of the four choices. Worth it sometimes to see if there's new talent, but the way the girls are coached to not converse as much as get to the point quickly there bothers me.

- The third club is my favorite when it has good talent. Big place that knows me well enough to comp me cover and let me sit in the nicer upstairs section of the club whenever I go -- not exactly a VIP section, but a more-exclusive area with its own bar. Thing is, though, they have the most talent turnover. Plus they have more regular girls who I've either repeatedly passed on or tried out and was like, "Eh, not worth trying again. " They had a spectacular German / Brazilian mix blonde who only came in once in a while for a long time and was amazing conversation in multiple languages, including the language of dance and sensuality. But since she's seemed to give up the business, the place hasn't been as good to me as it was. It's not that the talent is overall bad or not plentiful. They're just not finding my type.

- The fourth club is the furthest away to the point where getting home after a visit is a chore. I'm more apt to go if I'm staying in that part of the city rather than coming from the north as I often am. Good news is, extras are sometimes available. Bad news is, it's a long drive, the extras are costly and there's one particular dancer there who will really glom onto me and not let me go until I've taken her back for said extras. Blonde, small MILF, new tits and talented but persistent and not cheap. Lays the charm on so think that it starts to feel a little too fake, and very difficult to make go away once she's spotted me. I can text her and see if she's in, but to be honest, I sometimes prefer to go when she says she's not. It's expensive enough that it's just not an option for me sometimes.

Before I decide to head to the club on the Friday or Saturday nights I work, I have to decide which place I'm in the mood for. Do I have the cash and time and am in the mood for the blonde who will drain it all along with something else? Do I want the spectacular Romanian with the grind? Am I in the mood to see if I can find some new & different talent? How far do I want to drive?

I think a lot of you Detroiters have to make similar decisions, too. Do I want to troll Bogies or H8 and see if I can get a deal but also come away smelling like an ashtray? Do I want to try FC or LS and get a super hot chick but possibly lose half my fortune or not be able to negotiate down and get nothing? Do I want to go in-between to someplace like Criket or BT's? You try to match the experience to what you want on that particular night.[/QUOTE]As someone who lives in between the 2 cities I can tell you that you have it way in the Detroit area compared to Chicago clubs. Extras are pretty much non existent in Chicago area. It a shame but the truth. I will drive the extra distance to Detroit rather than waste my money in Chicago. Having traveled the country and sampled strip clubs all over. The 2 best cities I have found are Tampa and Detroit. For extras. Years ago Dallas was pretty good. Not sure how it is now. Would love to hear others experiences and recommendations for cities that are good for extras.

[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;6711830]Exactly.

I've had dancers in that same boat: Not my type for dances or more, but I've been willing to humor them if they're good conversation and tip them for their time. In return, they've been an asset in other ways.

I'm a believer we should all be more analytical generally. For me, the process starts before I even go to the club. Case in point with Chicago, there are four clubs I'll frequent: Two within a couple blocks of each other, one about a half an hour to the south of those, and another about 20 minutes to the south of that. Each has it's advantages and disadvantages:

- The first club knows me well enough that they comp my cover. A floor host / bouncer there also knew me well enough that he'd talk baseball with me and buy me a beer -- he just left there, unfortunately. That's the club with the twins and the toothy brunette. My favorite there is a Romanian MILF who gives a spectacular grind. Definitely a top-five all time for me. However, sometimes, I'm not in the mood for her if I feel like she's fallen into a routine and I won't be surprised by what she does. I have her E-mail and can find out if she's in if I E-mail her a few days ahead of time, but I'm not always that forward-thinking. If she's not there, most of the other talent doesn't do it for me.[/QUOTE]You're way over thinking how Detroit is, next time I'm on Chicago I won't be going to any clubs, unless it's part of a work trip. Most of the regular dancers things like you mentioned can work, but any John can say I want xyz, they give a price, John agrees, counters or walks, same with the dancer they may not want to do xyz or too far apart. Really no need to complicate things. If you want to really get to know a few dancers, after a session ask for contact info, it's readily available if they like you or had they fun. Sometimes it's just to see what day they're working, others you can snag OTC meetings. I haven't done the OTC thing in a decade or so, but have gotten contact info many times, just never followed up.

Oh, if you don't see a dancer you like, move to the next place. If you have very specific goals, 90 lb 5'0 spinner with a great ass and under 25 try a higher end club, you'll find it.

[QUOTE=MichiBob;6712094]As someone who lives in between the 2 cities I can tell you that you have it way in the Detroit area compared to Chicago clubs. Extras are pretty much non existent in Chicago area. It a shame but the truth. I will drive the extra distance to Detroit rather than waste my money in Chicago. Having traveled the country and sampled strip clubs all over. The 2 best cities I have found are Tampa and Detroit. For extras. Years ago Dallas was pretty good. Not sure how it is now. Would love to hear others experiences and recommendations for cities that are good for extras.[/QUOTE]Not sure about Dallas, but I will absolutely volunteer some information about Austin.

It's shit. Don't hobby there. Clubs are bad, escorts are bad, AMPs are mediocre at their absolute top end.

Detroit is Mecca. And I say this as a person who spent many years in Vegas. It's a totally unique scene and, despite our collective gripes and criticisms, deserves a certain level of respect simply due to the fact that it is so much better than most other cities.

[QUOTE=MichiBob;6712094]As someone who lives in between the 2 cities I can tell you that you have it way in the Detroit area compared to Chicago clubs. Extras are pretty much non existent in Chicago area. It a shame but the truth. I will drive the extra distance to Detroit rather than waste my money in Chicago. Having traveled the country and sampled strip clubs all over. The 2 best cities I have found are Tampa and Detroit. For extras. Years ago Dallas was pretty good. Not sure how it is now. Would love to hear others experiences and recommendations for cities that are good for extras.[/QUOTE]I still have many empty checkboxes on my "fun places to do stuff you don't discuss with your mom" bucket list, like Tampa, Miami, Dallas, COI, TJ, Frankfurt. I find it hard to imagine all but maybe TJ and Frankfurt can top some of my best nights in Detroit. Options, price, type of girl, Detroit has the right mix.

Why I do Chicago more than Detroit is simple: Chicago's clubs are a 75-120 minute drive from my home base. Detroit's are a six-hour drive (12 round trip) or a 90-minute flight both ways. And I have to work hard to make the money needed to make either fun, which means I don't have a ton of free time to escape for no good reason.

I basically have to box out two days to do any clubbing in Detroit. If I'm lucky, I'm working there sometimes, but I don't have a ton of work there. If I'm lucky, I get there once or twice a year.

Chicago, meanwhile, with a number of clubs open until 5 am, I can get a few hours of decent clubbing in with only two hours of driving and a 9 o'clock departure.

Detroit is way better than Chicago. But I don't live near Detroit. I live close enough to Chicago to hit the clubs there often enough. It is what it is.

Was thinking about hitting FC or LS with the significant other, I am sure that there are dancers who would particiapte with both. Which club has the best VIP for a couple to play with a dancer, size, couch, etc?

Let's talk about Chicago in the Chicago thread.

Some guys like girls who approach them. I don't see any issue in a girl asking me for company and politely declining.

While all of us find different things attractive in a girl, there is a pecking order in the club. The most desirable girls rarely go approaching guys, because they have many guys that want their time and attention. If they are smart they are also focused on taking care of their regulars as that maximizes their earnings. They only try to meet new guys when they are alone.

By contrast the less desirable girls know who they are and if they are not aggressive and approach guys they may not get a session and cover their tip out. They know who the regulars are and who they come in to see and if there is a customer for them or not. So when a new guy arrives they go over quickly because they want to get there before the guy selects for himself.

There is an unwritten rule that if a girl is sitting with a guy then other girls will not approach. So most girls understand guys come to the club to go to the VIP, and most guys have a limited amount of time. So if a girl can sit down with a guy shortly after he enters and remain with him during the 1 hour or 2 hours he is in the club she prevents him from speaking to other girls, and he may decide to take her to the VIP because she becomes the only option in the time period he has to be in the club.

As for Detroit the best strategy is to be the Alpha, approach the girls you are interested in and tell them you want some company. The majority of the time they will join you. I have had girls who where friends with girls I did not like or they did not like me, come and sit with me, and turns out I had good chemistry with the friend and enjoyable VIPs. Most girls in the club are interested in making money not enforcing some odd system that they won't spend time with you because you don't like their friend. To avoid arguments, I will acknowledge that there can be individual exceptions.

MM.

Heard the rumors that the legend Sandra was leaving for a few months starting Christmas Eve so I had to go see her before she left. So, last Friday at around 2 pm I get to SC. This was my 2nd time there and It was packed for 2 pm on a Friday imo. But I was seated and asked the waitress for Sandra. She came over and her body is as nice as everyone says. Big boobs and a nice BBL, she also has braces which is my kryptonite so I was all in.

Conversation was very nice she is well traveled and has some cool experiences. I had to cut the conversation short because I only had a 45 min window. So we go to VIP. The DFK starts which is a first for me since dancers typically don't do that in my experience. She starts to give me a very nice BBJ and while she is doing that I play with her clit and she squirts which was very hot. She gets on top and starts riding me. I was going to finish but I needed to hit It from the back before I did that. I flipped her around and went to town and finished. Total damage for everything was $200. Money well spent.

[QUOTE=DarkKnight23;6713376]Heard the rumors that the legend Sandra was leaving for a few months starting Christmas Eve so I had to go see her before she left. So, last Friday at around 2 pm I get to SC. This was my 2nd time there and It was packed for 2 pm on a Friday imo. But I was seated and asked the waitress for Sandra. She came over and her body is as nice as everyone says. Big boobs and a nice BBL, she also has braces which is my kryptonite so I was all in.

Conversation was very nice she is well traveled and has some cool experiences. I had to cut the conversation short because I only had a 45 min window. So we go to VIP. The DFK starts which is a first for me since dancers typically don't do that in my experience. She starts to give me a very nice BBJ and while she is doing that I play with her clit and she squirts which was very hot. She gets on top and starts riding me. I was going to finish but I needed to hit It from the back before I did that. I flipped her around and went to town and finished. Total damage for everything was $200. Money well spent.[/QUOTE]Anyone else have any recs for SC girls?