Heard traffic light reopened. Probably no fun like before, but interesting none the less.
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Heard traffic light reopened. Probably no fun like before, but interesting none the less.
[QUOTE=Nick6789;6707381]Heard traffic light reopened. Probably no fun like before, but interesting none the less.[/QUOTE]A lot of us broke our titty bar cherries at the Light. The deal there was you parked your car in a far remote corner of the lot and got a girl to go out and smoke a J in your car. Good times and free pizza! Meanwhile the ebb and flow of 8 mile clubs continues. I heard that Subi (owner of Coli / Trumpps) is already closing Penthouse / Elysium. He sunk a ton of money in that place since the inside was gutted. Undeterred by that, a new club called "Lust" is set to open at 8 & John are. Also an investor bought Tycoons and is remodeling it. Both Lust and Tycoons to be upscale urban clubs. Hope they make it but 8 mile has been a ghost town lately.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;6702453]PHL,
I have never heard of this rule.
I live out of town and come to Detroit to work. I will frequently go out the same club 3 or 4 nights in a row, I can't imagine why this is problem. Also if you have a good time with a girl, word gets around that you are decent guy and spending money. If after your session you tip a few girls you like, and say I am done for tonight but I would like to go to the VIP with you later this week, what nights do you work. Most girls are thrilled to have this conversation.
MM.[/QUOTE]This has been my experience as well. All of them hear a bunch of things from customers, but when you actually follow through on a "I'll come see you tomorrow if you're in" they are absolutely thrilled, and this has led to some very memorable experiences.
[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;6703613]It's certainly not a [I]rule[/I]. I'm 100 percent certain club owners and bartenders would love you coming in, paying cover and buying drinks every day. But I can see situations where it might be to your detriment.
I will definitely check out a decent club multiple times when traveling. If I know the club's culture leads to good experiences, there's no sense in not trying some different flavors between days or shifts or whatever. If I know I won't be back anytime soon, who cares what they think of me? I won't be remembered.
The problem comes when it's a place you'll visit more regularly. Start showing up multiple days in a row and I think you start to polarize the ladies.
The ones you procure services from regularly like the fact you're a regular source of income, while the ones you don't get services from probably start taking the attitude of, "Ugh, [I]that[/I] guy again. ".
As much as we like to believe dancers like us, they like our money far more. Otherwise, many have a general disdain for customers, and the disdain probably grows more the more they see you if you're not spending on them. That may start to hurt you if you tire of your favorites or they leave that club. Assuming you don't get dances with every girl in the club, it's more likely there'll be more dancers that dislike you than like you, so they're more likely to talk to newer dancers and tell them they know you and don't care for you.
Granted, it also depends on the club, you and a number of other things. I have one club where I'm seen enough that the bartender and door lady like me and will make a point to talk to me now. They know I'm not squirrely, am good conversation and won't do anything with the girls they don't want to do. If I had a preference for a dancer, they'd hook it up for me..[/QUOTE]Might I ask why you even care about the opinion of dancers you don't get services from? At most, if you're that much a regular those particular dancers just stop approaching you eventually so I don't see what the problem is.
Yeah, heard 50 cent bought Tycoons. He shoulda done more research.
[QUOTE=DuckDuckInFin;6708282]Might I ask why you even care about the opinion of dancers you don't get services from? At most, if you're that much a regular those particular dancers just stop approaching you eventually so I don't see what the problem is.[/QUOTE]All of this. I cannot think of someone whose opinion means less to me than a stripper I have no interest in. Who GAF if Torri at Bogie's doesn't like you?
[QUOTE=DuckDuckInFin;6708270]This has been my experience as well. All of them hear a bunch of things from customers, but when you actually follow through on a "I'll come see you tomorrow if you're in" they are absolutely thrilled, and this has led to some very memorable experiences.[/QUOTE]+1.
I have received excellent service when I alert a peeler via text that I plan to be at the club at a certain time. I arrive punctually, take a seat, and I have company before my drink is served.
Going to have some free time this afternoon and was looking to run into some busty dancers. Something similar to Annabella at Boggies. I've heard about Chelsea who works there as well, does anyone know if she works Saturdays (I've only been there 2-3 times)? Or of any other busty dancers that are laid back who work Saturday day shift, idc about a menu just looking to tip and feel on some big cans. Thanks in advance.
I have been meaning to try Subi's but did not get their during the suggested daytime / weekday shifts. I usually do a round of FC, SC and BT's Saturday night.
Is Subi's worth the extra drive south on the weekend or should I just wait until next week? I assume it is on par with Silvery Criket.
[QUOTE=DuckDuckInFin;6708282]Might I ask why you even care about the opinion of dancers you don't get services from? At most, if you're that much a regular those particular dancers just stop approaching you eventually so I don't see what the problem is.[/QUOTE]Completely agree.
I am used to most of the dancers not liking me anyway. I am very selective and will see the same girl multiple times if I like her. On any given night there are usually only 10% of the girls I would pay money to spend time with them. The other 90% don't like me.
MM.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;6710023]Completely agree.
I am used to most of the dancers not liking me anyway. I am very selective and will see the same girl multiple times if I like her. On any given night there are usually only 10% of the girls I would pay money to spend time with them. The other 90% don't like me.
MM.[/QUOTE]I feel the same way MM. I am not mean but I politely dismiss 90% of those new dancers who approach me, unless they are one of the few with wisdom who start a conversation and initially make it about me instead of themselves, after a bit of that type of conversation they can seal the deal by being direct, and if they are wise enough to do that they can become a regular, most of the dancers and 90% of the real young dancers can only carry a conversation about themselves.
I was at Bogarts today around 5 pm. There were about a dozen dancers with only 4 worth getting extras from. There were two MILF blondes with big tits, but they were with other customers. A brunette spinner named Kelly. We chatted for a while and she was cute but I was not feeling it. Enter Deva, petite mixed spinner with a perfect ass and small tits with great nipples. She danced on the main stage and then meet up with me after I tipped her. She was an absolute sweetheart. She quoted me $250 for FS but I told her I only had $180 on me. (like a casino, only take in what you can afford to spend). She agreed and we headed up. I paid the fee and went back. Started with a great blow job. I had to do everything in my power to not nut. She stood up and I bent her over the chair and went to pound town. She was moaning and talking dirty. I could feel her dripping down my leg. I want med to have her ride me CG but decided to finish. She said she did not expect that and had a good time. Definitely worth a visit.
[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;6710043]I feel the same way MM. I am not mean but I politely dismiss 90% of those new dancers who approach me[/QUOTE]I'd wager that most of us are like that, just that all our 90%'s and 10%'s aren't the same and that's what keeps the ecosystem going.
[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;6710043] unless they are one of the few with wisdom who start a conversation and initially make it about me instead of themselves, after a bit of that type of conversation they can seal the deal by being direct, and if they are wise enough to do that they can become a regular, most of the dancers and 90% of the real young dancers can only carry a conversation about themselves [/QUOTE]They tend to show how experienced they are at this point, which can be utilized at the club. The fresh ones are looking for an instant payday, experienced ones know how it works for the long game.
[QUOTE=DuckDuckInFin;6710641]I'd wager that most of us are like that, just that all our 90%'s and 10%'s aren't the same and that's what keeps the ecosystem going.
They tend to show how experienced they are at this point, which can be utilized at the club. The fresh ones are looking for an instant payday, experienced ones know how it works for the long game.[/QUOTE]First I agree different guys like all different things. I like cute spinner types with small tits. Peace to anyone who prefers cuvry girls or double Ds.
I don't need her to talk about me. I already know about me, I am much more interested to talk about her, as it fuels my fantasy. Did she used to work a Qdoba, was she a receptionist in a dentist office, did she play softball, was she in the band etc. Many fun fantasies here.
There are multiple elements to success. Looks, most girls can't change their looks enough to make me want to take them. Those who alter their looks usually make themselves look less attractive in my opinion. But I am only going to the back with girls I find to be hot. That eliminates about 80% of the girl right away.
Assuming I find her hot, then I assess our chemistry at the table during the conversation. Roughly half the girls I have good chemistry and half I have bad chemistry.
Assuming I find her hot and we have good chemistry, then I am desiring to go to the VIP, assuming we can reach agreement on a reasonable price point. I have had a number of hot fun girls I did not go to the back with because the were asking for more than $300. While I was disappointed not to sample them, they got zero from me. The much smarter girls where willing to go for $200 in which case I would see her multiple times (unless there was some problem with her dances), putting hundreds of dollars in her purse, and if she was one of my favorite girls for the year she would earn thousands of dollars over many repeat sessions.
I guess the girls I didn't find to be hot, didn't like the chemistry, or couldn't agree on a reasonable price don't like me. But I don't think I care.
MM.
[QUOTE=DuckDuckInFin;6708282]Might I ask why you even care about the opinion of dancers you don't get services from? At most, if you're that much a regular those particular dancers just stop approaching you eventually so I don't see what the problem is.[/QUOTE]Simple answer: Dancers talk and sometimes work together. You don't know who's friends with who.
Example: There's a club I frequent in Chicago I'm at often enough where I kind of know their tendencies. I can't say for certain, but I notice they have almost a team approach there.
One pair of hot blonde, busty friends tends to focus on luring prospective big fish into rooms. I've gotten dances with both individually and, to be honest, they're not great dancers. Super hot, yes; great dancers, no. Classic case of hot enough to lure guys in without having to work very hard. Keep in mind, Chicago is nowhere near as lenient about extras as Detroit, so level of grind is the biggest factor in determining good dancers there. These two practically give air dances such that I've only gotten dances with them once; it may have been on purpose as I think they figured out I wasn't headed to a room and just wanted to be done with me to get back to shooting for bigger prizes. I've even noticed, on nights when one of the two or both are missing, other girls will take on a similar role. It's clear enough that I wonder -- don't know, wonder -- if it's almost a role the club has for two dancers on any given weekend night.
They're not as important to my point, though, as another girl, a toothy brunette with kinda crazy eyes. Her role, when I see her there, is basically to be a trainer. She'll tag team with new dancers to show them how to work customers and try and convince those customers to get dances with either the new girl or the both of them. What I've noticed with her is that she will be more hands-on or hands-off, depending on how timid or aggressive the newbie is, or maybe based on how comfortably the newbie taking to their new trade. When I saw her on her own the first few times, I noticed she seemed over-aggressive and pushy, which is probably part of why the club picked her to be the trainer.
What I've also noticed is, when she lets newbies start to pick their targets on their own, if they pick me, she'll subtly steer them away: She knows I've never been a fan of her, have a kind of particular taste, and have my few regular girls I like. So I think she influences the other dancers to not go to me, too.
Now that's generally fine unless she's mentoring a girl I actually do think I might have an interest in. It's a problem, though, if she decides to explain to that dancer that I'm not worth approaching when, in reality, I may actually want her to approach.
Furthermore, dancers talk with the bouncers. Bouncers recommend customers to the dancers. The door staff gets to know you. All of that. They're there three, four nights a week. They know each other. They talk. They start picking up on who the regulars are. They track their tendencies. And if they make a decision about you, one bad seed can influence the whole group.
Honestly, I'm thinking that club might lose my business for a while once my favorite retires, and I think part of the reason might be that my favorite was awesome, but I didn't diversify. I might need to go away for a while, maybe a few years, to be forgotten some before I can start fresh. There's a couple other clubs I frequent as well where I'm starting to wonder if I've played out my welcome with all but my favorites. In Detroit, which I only get to a few times a year, that might not be as big of a problem with so many clubs. But in other places, with more limited options, it can be an issue.
Being a regular is sometimes about playing the long game. You have to see the ebbs and flows. It can truly be a game of chess sometimes. Got to think about it a few different ways.