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Searching your car and phone is the same as searching your person no warrant needed.
[QUOTE=MagnumTC;2114586]No way can they search your car or phone w / o probable cause. Which is why they ask you if you mind if they search your car. You reply that yes, you do mind. You do not waive your 4th amendment rights.[/QUOTE]
Had a dream, or almost nightmare, that I went out for a cruise on the east side last night. My spidey sense was off last night for sure!
I dreamt I saw this very hot girl flagging cars with a tall thin black guy (I assumed pimp) behind her, at Franklin and Montana: she had tight jeans, she was thick, and relatively good looking (although her eyebrows were weird / too thin). She looked very clean cut. In fact, a little too clean cut (that should have been my first clue). I rolled by her on Franklin, and went to drive around the block a few streets to the north. Hidden on the street I drove down was a fully marked Uncle LEO in a SUV from the City of Flint, backed in to a driveway (that should have been my second clue, but alas it wasn't).
When I drove back threw the neighborhood to Franklin and Montana, the girl was gone. Then the Uncle in the SUV flew by me and pulled over a car on Leith (that should have been my third clue). So I got the heck out of dodge for awhile and tried Fenton. But the story doesn't end there.
About 30 minutes later I returned, and the girl with the "pimp" was back at Franklin and Montana, as well as the LEO in the SUV a few streets to the north (Ok, 4th clue, but I was clearly being stupid now). I rolled up to the girl with her on the passenger side of my car and rolled down the passenger window of my truck. The girl walked TO MY DRIVER'S SIDE! (5th clue, and I was FINALLY starting to catch on). While on my driver's side she said in a clear, non-cigarette / non-street / non-doper voice, "Whatcha looking for?" and in the background from the lowered passenger window I could hear the pimp saying, "white Ford F-150, license. " and I WAS IN A WHITE F-150!
I fucking FLEW out of the neighborhood FAST without saying a word to the girl. Yikes! Be careful out there. That's the first time I've seen Flint City doing that. Usually it's Genesee Co boys.
[QUOTE=Waxon1;2115520]Searching your car and phone is the same as searching your person no warrant needed.[/QUOTE]Yea, they need probable cause or a warrant. You should firmly say that you don't consent to the search. Take a picture with your cell, if you can. If they take away your phone you do not have to cooperate and provide the access code for your cell phone; you should always have the phone locked. If they had a warrant, then you could be held in contempt for not cooperating. If they take your keys when they search you and search your car without consent, then whatever they find is "fruit of the poison tree:" it is inadmissable. Of course, if you have some girl's head in your trunk or a meth lab, the judge may look the other way.
The last I was arrested they quickly took my phone and searched my car without permission; the charges were dropped after an appearance in court. I didn't know I could refuse. If you refuse, they will make noise about breaking your window and letting you wait for hours for a warrant. Just ignore it. Don't egg them on by being defiant. Be firm and don't answer any questions. In my case, these cops wanted my expensive car. They had plans to buy it cheap at auction. I lied and told them I couldn't remember where the registration was because I figured them out. When confronted by an immoral force your compliance with an ethical standard opens you up for exploitation: lie, cheat. That's what they do.
When you get pulled over your degree of cooperation depends on how you read it. If you are caught with the girl in the front seat you have to pick a strategy and stick to it. Keep your story straight and simple. If you get pulled over for harassment, play it cool, don't admit to anything, don't allow a search, don't get bullied and don't think this is a good guy. It's a guy doing his job. If he can bust you he gets to spend the day in the office not out in a smelly police cruiser. You are his prize: remember that. Chances are cops will follow you. They want you to make a false move: turn from the wrong lane, speed through a stop sign, fail to use your turn signal. Play it cool. Remember, be firm, but courteous, cooperate as little as possible, don't let me, or yourself talk you into jail.
[QUOTE=Waxon1;2115520]Searching your car and phone is the same as searching your person no warrant needed.[/QUOTE]No its not that way its good to lock your glove box they can only search what they can see an if the glove box locked they need warrant for that an the same goes for your phone that can't seach it without a warrant if they can't see it an if you have a lock on it to they for sure need a warrant.
It was in California, far from PH. I was seen very briefly parked in a small lot next to a motel locally known by LE for drug sales and activities. So they pulled me over and I rolled into a larger strip center next to a fast food restaurant. I think there were 2 cars, 2 dressed cops and a UC guy. They asked where I was going, what I was doing, blah, blah blah. Then they asked to search the car after they examined my license and rental registration etc. I consented to the car search. They went thru the car very thoroughly looking in all the pockets, checking the trunk, glove box, etc. , while one of the guys continued to converse with me.
Then the snoop cop asked if he could view my phone which was in the door pocket. I said I would prefer he did not. He repeated may he examine my phone, and I repeated I'd prefer he did not. With that he handed me the phone, they said leave the area, and don't cruise around this section of town, known for drugs, SW's, and ner-do-wells! Of course I was looking for a date, but vehemently denied that and since I was out of town, I insisted I knew nothing about their high crime and undesirable areas.
The point here is LE at least in some states (maybe all) must be given consent to search. My phone had some potentially incriminating evidence and that's why I didn't want it examined. Be safe and good hunting. MW.
After weeks of seeing nothing on the south side, took a cruise down the stroll last night. Rolled up on a little too thick but decent looking girl to my right, a possibility but with a dude following closely behind it was worth a second pass. Then to my left a girl jogging, cute thin blonde, being suspicious of girls with a little too much energy, however her gate had a bit of special olympics stride to it, figured she was worth a second pass also, never seen either of these girls, I miss the old days when you could recognize just about everyone out there. Second pass made it a wash, because now both were standing together talking, with the dude that was trailing the one standing 10 feet away, a little too stingish to me. A short distance down the road, a petite girl all alone with a long black ponytail, scooped her, guess who, Ronnie, guess the guy living there at her nice safe incall for the price of a few groceries has driven her back to fenton road. She is older, 40's, but as always provides one of the best bbjs in flint. If you guys see her, you will see what I mean, she was looking good in that low cut blouse that could barely keep those big girls inside. Be Safe DF.
[QUOTE=Duuz200;2115632]Had a dream, or almost nightmare, that I went out for a cruise on the east side last night. My spidey sense was off last night for sure!
I dreamt I saw this very hot girl flagging cars with a tall thin black guy (I assumed pimp) behind her, at Franklin and Montana: she had tight jeans, she was thick, and relatively good looking (although her eyebrows were weird / too thin). She looked very clean cut. In fact, a little too clean cut (that should have been my first clue). I rolled by her on Franklin, and went to drive around the block a few streets to the north. Hidden on the street I drove down was a fully marked Uncle LEO in a SUV from the City of Flint, backed in to a driveway (that should have been my second clue, but alas it wasn't).
When I drove back threw the neighborhood to Franklin and Montana, the girl was gone. Then the Uncle in the SUV flew by me and pulled over a car on Leith (that should have been my third clue). So I got the heck out of dodge for awhile and tried Fenton. But the story doesn't end there.
About 30 minutes later I returned, and the girl with the "pimp" was back at Franklin and Montana, as well as the LEO in the SUV a few streets to the north (Ok, 4th clue, but I was clearly being stupid now). I rolled up to the girl with her on the passenger side of my car and rolled down the passenger window of my truck. The girl walked TO MY DRIVER'S SIDE! (5th clue, and I was FINALLY starting to catch on). While on my driver's side she said in a clear, non-cigarette / non-street / non-doper voice, "Whatcha looking for?" and in the background from the lowered passenger window I could hear the pimp saying, "white Ford F-150, license. " and I WAS IN A WHITE F-150!
I fucking FLEW out of the neighborhood FAST without saying a word to the girl. Yikes! Be careful out there. That's the first time I've seen Flint City doing that. Usually it's Genesee Co boys.[/QUOTE]The feds are giving out grants to fight crime to places like Flint. To be honest, it can work. The pick-up locations can't shift much because the girls and the johns won't know where to go. They follow a simple plan, that works: get rid of the familiar girls, then plant some decoys, thin out the johns then repeat. After six months of intense work, hoes are a dim memory. I've seen this happen in Pittsburgh, Cleveland, cities in California, Oregon, and especially in Chicago.
[quote=backrub;2118837]the feds are giving out grants to fight crime to places like flint. to be honest, it can work. the pick-up locations can't shift much because the girls and the johns won't know where to go. they follow a simple plan, that works: get rid of the familiar girls, then plant some decoys, thin out the johns then repeat. after six months of intense work, hoes are a dim memory. i've seen this happen in pittsburgh, cleveland, cities in california, oregon, and especially in chicago.[/quote]only 3 or 4 years ago, this quiet little town in south central michigan had twice as many sw's as ph ever had. i could drive down 2 small areas, similar to fenton, about 2 miles apart and see 15-20 sw's day or night time, and many of them were 19 & 20 yo's, near dimes. none were **** that i ever saw or spoke to.
i enjoyed the plethora od activity for a good 2 years. but as br predicts, good things often end. a jnet was formed, with a lot of outside help, and in 6 months the awesome activity disappeared. and it has not returned.
today, jackson has some drugs as all towns do, and very light sw activity, but it is managed by local le, and a shell of what it once was. i can roll for 3 hours in the 2 areas and may see 2 or 3 worn workers. most of the decent gals have long ago left for d or ph or god knows where. be safe and good hunting. mw.
[quote=mwjrp;2118962]only 3 or 4 years ago, this quiet little town in south central michigan had twice as many sw's as ph ever had. i could drive down 2 small areas, similar to fenton, about 2 miles apart and see 15-20 sw's day or night time, and many of them were 19 & 20 yo's, near dimes. none were **** that i ever saw or spoke to.
i enjoyed the plethora od activity for a good 2 years. but as br predicts, good things often end. a jnet was formed, with a lot of outside help, and in 6 months the awesome activity disappeared. and it has not returned.
today, jackson has some drugs as all towns do, and very light sw activity, but it is managed by local le, and a shell of what it once was. i can roll for 3 hours in the 2 areas and may see 2 or 3 worn workers. most of the decent gals have long ago left for d or ph or god knows where. be safe and good hunting. mw.[/quote]this hobby has been around for thousands of years. it will never go away. although they can change the sw activity in a city, they cannot stop this hobby. we opportunistic mongers have access to bars, clubs, malls, internet, and the powerful network connections we have with our knowledgeable seniors like mw. they need to just legalize this like vegas and tax it. it will never go away. johns will always find ways to see their friends in their dreams. continue to be patient and safe and thanks to all of the members that provide useful info to keep us safe.
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[QUOTE=DoubleDribble;2119737]This hobby has been around for thousands of years. It will never go away. Although they can change the SW activity in a city, they cannot stop this hobby. We opportunistic mongers have access to bars, clubs, malls, internet, and the powerful network connections we have with our knowledgeable seniors like mw. They need to just legalize this like vegas and tax it. It will never go away. Johns will always find ways to see their friends in their dreams. Continue to be patient and safe and thanks to all of the members that provide useful info to keep us safe.
Dd.[/QUOTE]While I agree with your comments, should correct your statement that prostitution is legal in Vegas. It is not. Only legal brothels are some distance outside Las Vegas. While common in Vegas, soliciting can get you busted in Sin City. Be careful out there, fellow mongers.
Stopped in Flint yesterday to visit some friends, and had some time to kill before we met up. Ended up on Fenton to take a break and have a drink after being on the bike all afternoon. I'm sitting next to my bike when a girl walks up to me. She starts asking me questions about my bike and asking if I'll take her for a quick ride. Had to tell her no because she had flip flops on, and she then says she'll make it worth my while if I give her a ride on the bike. Next she's tries to get me to do a check right in broad daylight. I Said you must be crazy if you think that I'm going to do a check where everyone can see, and I absolutely wasn't going to give a known ho a ride on my bike with all of the uncles around. Next she says she has red pussy hairs, and pulls her pants down to show me. I said, ok, that's different. Let's go to your place. She takes me to a house / possibly candy house, and we go to her room to start the fun. This girl was 5'4" and maybe 10 lbs overweight, strawberry blonde hair, and a nice body. Only downside was her face. I'd say she was a 5 in the face. Her skills more than name up for the face. Excellent wet, dirty talking BBBJ. The box was as tight as O. J. Simpsons glove, and she took a good pounding. Wish I got her name, would definitely repeat!
Was on E side today. Ran across Tina and talked for a few. Nice gal. Prolly 30 ish, darker shade blond, weight and height proportional. Got digits for later hookup (next week). Was looking for Natalya but no luck. Anyone have any experiences (good or bad) w / Tina? PM if prefer. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Fundboy;2124088]Was on E side today. Ran across Tina and talked for a few. Nice gal. Prolly 30 ish, darker shade blond, weight and height proportional. Got digits for later hookup (next week). Was looking for Natalya but no luck. Anyone have any experiences (good or bad) w / Tina? PM if prefer. Thanks.[/QUOTE]By all means call her. You will like the date I'm sure. RTFF, I have dated her 2 or 3 times. Most recent report is SW# 1735, not long ago. She is very, very good, IMO.
So I took a stroll after work to see what was going on, on the east side. Not much out, after driving for a bit I had a bit of luck and found Tina. It was my first time meeting her and glad I'm glad I got to. We got to the room, and I got a good but a little short BBBJ, some fooling around, DATY, and then began the main course. She is a very friendly attractive girl I definitely hope to see again. After I dropped her off I saw Jessica (I learned my lesson with her So I won't play that game again), and Faith on my way out.
Cruised the East today around 5 PM looked like a ghost town. Hit some side streets and saw a HSW have seen her before so I decided to scoop her. Told me her name was Lisa, we agreed on TOS and found a quiet place. Short girl thick build nice saggies if you're into that. Very friendly and cooperative, gave good BBBJCIM w / spit, some FIV and then she finished herself for my viewing pleasure. Said she appreciated the AC on this hot day. All in all a pleasurable experience. Better than expected.