General Reports

[QUOTE=Akinbacon;2920499]That site is a joke. Don't waste your time trying to join.[/QUOTE]If I had to jump through all the initial hoops to become a member right now, I don't think I would. The board is not a wealth of information. You aren't really missing much because the west side section of the board has just a handful of providers. I personally don't mind the reference system because I have them and it is no big deal. I'm a descendent of the old boards and in their heyday they had much more to offer. Some of my old hobby friends moved to that board either just before or just after those boards were shut down. I still keep in touch but I could also do that without the board. It is another option out there and quite a few guys seem to be curious about it. All in all, it has little to offer but some may like it. There are a lot of lurkers here.

Here are the few things I like about it. As I said before, sometimes service providers from the east side will visit here on the west side. They don't post anywhere else. I have been known to support that practice at times. Some of them are established friends. It has given me an option that I wouldn't have otherwise. It doesn't happen all that much though. It also is a bit safer, in some ways, and that can be important. Some mongers just might be on papers themselves, have wives or significant others, or are just concerned for whatever reason. The reference system ads another level of protection for providers and mongers alike. If you are established and like that extra layer of protection it may be of value to you. It cuts out the bait and switch problem for the most part but there are some outdated photos I'm sure. The incall locations are usually safe and clean, usually upper level chains, not no tells, The providers, on the whole, s are usually a few cuts above BP standards and independent. There is a pm System and you can contact others same as here. That is good because reviews there are useless. The pm System is the only real way of getting information.

I don't post on that board, never have. I rarely use it because options are limited. I'm an occasional lurker. I'm not a supporter, just sharing my experience. Depending on what you are looking for, it is a lot of initial effort and there is also the cost of seeing an established provider getting a referral to become a member yourself. The board owner also asks you a shitload of questions in his screening process.

Unless you are interested in what I talk about above, I wouldn't bother.

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2921586]TomZ is a cock-blocking douche. For the life of me, I can't figure out why any Monger would want to be associated with that guy or his so called forum. You like jumping thru flamming hoops to see overpriced GPS providers or have your posts edited w / o your knowledge?

Check out this blog from Sid, a long time Monger with inside info on people that ruin the Hobby.

[URL]https://micomplainers.wordpress.com/category/midwesttimez-com/[/URL]

NJ.[/QUOTE]I agree. I used to be on all of the now defunct boards. Scorp's, EV, AES, etc. I was active since 2001, but TomZ has doomed his board to failure. When EV got closed down, some of us were without references, other than other hobbyists that we might have a beer with. This is the place to be.

[QUOTE=ChipCharger;2921856]If I had to jump through all the initial hoops to become a member right now, I don't think I would. The board is not a wealth of information. You aren't really missing much because the west side section of the board has just a handful of providers. I personally don't mind the reference system because I have them and it is no big deal. I'm a descendent of the old boards and in their heyday they had much more to offer. Some of my old hobby friends moved to that board either just before or just after those boards were shut down. I still keep in touch but I could also do that without the board. It is another option out there and quite a few guys seem to be curious about it. All in all, it has little to offer but some may like it. There are a lot of lurkers here.

Here are the few things I like about it. As I said before, sometimes service providers from the east side will visit here on the west side. They don't post anywhere else. I have been known to support that practice at times. Some of them are established friends. It has given me an option that I wouldn't have otherwise. It doesn't happen all that much though. It also is a bit safer, in some ways, and that can be important. Some mongers just might be on papers themselves, have wives or significant others, or are just concerned for whatever reason. The reference system ads another level of protection for providers and mongers alike. If you are established and like that extra layer of protection it may be of value to you. It cuts out the bait and switch problem for the most part but there are some outdated photos I'm sure. The incall locations are usually safe and clean, usually upper level chains, not no tells, The providers, on the whole, s are usually a few cuts above BP standards and independent. There is a pm System and you can contact others same as here. That is good because reviews there are useless. The pm System is the only real way of getting information.

I don't post on that board, never have. I rarely use it because options are limited. I'm an occasional lurker. I'm not a supporter, just sharing my experience. Depending on what you are looking for, it is a lot of initial effort and there is also the cost of seeing an established provider getting a referral to become a member yourself. The board owner also asks you a shitload of questions in his screening process.

Unless you are interested in what I talk about above, I wouldn't bother.[/QUOTE]You said what I was trying to say in my post. Only you said it with much more eloquence. I'm impressed! Anyway, all of the above and I god pruned! Go figure.

Do you consider the Knights Inn on Plainfield a "safe" location?

Not that there is anyone there, I just drove by ... Started thinking...

[QUOTE=TeeMich;2945127]Do you consider the Knights Inn on Plainfield a "safe" location?

Not that there is anyone there, I just drove by ... Started thinking...[/QUOTE]Knights Inn on 28th No I won't go.

Knights Inn on Plainfield, yes I've been there a few times and will repeat.

I feel the same about the one on 28th. Just don't get up to Plainfield much.

Thanks for the input.

[QUOTE=Benz1;2945142]Knights Inn on 28th No I won't go.

Knights Inn on Plainfield, yes I've been there a few times and will repeat.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TeeMich;2945127]Do you consider the Knights Inn on Plainfield a "safe" location?

Not that there is anyone there, I just drove by ... Started thinking...[/QUOTE]Saw a provider there today and it was OK, not fancy but I've seen worse.

[QUOTE=BigDNick;2622228]Her window has closed on the super model gig. Those jobs start coming when you're 17, not 30.[/QUOTE]With air brushing and soft ware you can turn just about any plain jane into a super model.

The modeling she does now is more for her self as opposed to say trying to land any kind of work.

Anyways if you have the right connections you can get all the work you want.

She remarried.

OK Guys, Not sure what section to put this in but has anyone actually tried GR Mens Clinic? They advertise everywhere but it almost sounds like a compounding bootleg pharmacy. I have yet to find and reviews that seem legit. What is the true cost and can you do better there than you can at any of the reputable on-line sites? Do they do anything besides push pills?

Read the online reviews. No pills. Injection of med directly into penis.

[QUOTE=Bronco6566;2972553]OK Guys, Not sure what section to put this in but has anyone actually tried GR Mens Clinic? They advertise everywhere but it almost sounds like a compounding bootleg pharmacy. I have yet to find and reviews that seem legit. What is the true cost and can you do better there than you can at any of the reputable on-line sites? Do they do anything besides push pills?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MikeYepthatsm;2972664]Read the online reviews. No pills. Injection of med directly into penis.[/QUOTE]I believe they are facing several lawsuits in Florida and Georgia I would be cautious with these guys. A regular doctor is most likely better.

[QUOTE=Bronco6566;2972553]OK Guys, Not sure what section to put this in but has anyone actually tried GR Mens Clinic? They advertise everywhere but it almost sounds like a compounding bootleg pharmacy. I have yet to find and reviews that seem legit. What is the true cost and can you do better there than you can at any of the reputable on-line sites? Do they do anything besides push pills?[/QUOTE]Yeah, I went there in May when they were running a $99 special. I would have to say that it was a complete waste of time and I felt insulted by the entire experience. First they had a guy come in and ask me a bunch of questions. Then the phlebotomist comes in to take blood. Then the Dr. Comes in to ask you even more questions. Finally, some douchey sales guy comes in and tries to get you to drop between $1400 and $4000 without even knowing if you have low T. I told the guy that it felt like a gimmick and I was there for help, not to be sold on dick pills and test. He was offended and I told him tough shit, I wasn't there to have a used car salesman blame me and try to guilt me (which he did) into dropping that kind of money on the spot. They either want you to do the test, or pills on a scale, meaning they want to sell you generics for $25 a pill and you have to buy 100,200, or 300 at a time. I did some of my own research and started doing testosterone cypionate injections myself. Cost $100 for three months supply of that and about $5 for ancillaries, so if you get your testing and you are low t, try to do it yourself, but make sure you do some research and you will be fine. Also, if you do end up going, they guarantee you will get a hard on before you leave from administered meds, or the visit is free, so make sure if you do decide to go, you nail them on that one.

[QUOTE=BaseHit;2972675]I believe they are facing several lawsuits in Florida and Georgia I would be cautious with these guys. A regular doctor is most likely better.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Florida-Mens-Clinic-Dr-Kevin-Hornsby-Florida-Mens-Medical-Clinic-/Dania-Florida-33004/Florida-Mens-Medical-Clinic-Dr-Kevin-Hornsby-Unethical-and-Deceptive-Dania-Florida-952834[/URL]

This is a chain of clinics. A google search on "men's clinic lawsuits" turned up many complaints by customers who have paid high prices for ineffective treatment. A class action lawsuit has been filed in Florida. I would avoid this place.

[URL]https://appsmqa.doh.state.fl.us/DocServiceMngr/displayDocument.aspx[/URL]

The clinics are apparently owned by a Dr. Kevin Hornsby. The link will take you to an order by the State of Florida prohibiting Dr. Hornsby from prescribing testosterone. I would avoid this place. Too many red flags are coming up.

[URL]http://www.startribune.com/doctor-at-bloomington-impotency-clinic-is-suspended/283558231/[/URL]

The Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported that a doctor at one Dr. Hornsby's clinics in Minnesota has had his license suspended. Avoid this place.

[QUOTE=HeadShot;2972686]Yeah, I went there in May when they were running a $99 special. I would have to say that it was a complete waste of time and I felt insulted by the entire experience. First they had a guy come in and ask me a bunch of questions. Then the phlebotomist comes in to take blood. Then the Dr. Comes in to ask you even more questions. Finally, some douchey sales guy comes in and tries to get you to drop between $1400 and $4000 without even knowing if you have low T. I told the guy that it felt like a gimmick and I was there for help, not to be sold on dick pills and test. He was offended and I told him tough shit, I wasn't there to have a used car salesman blame me and try to guilt me (which he did) into dropping that kind of money on the spot. They either want you to do the test, or pills on a scale, meaning they want to sell you generics for $25 a pill and you have to buy 100,200, or 300 at a time. I did some of my own research and started doing testosterone cypionate injections myself. Cost $100 for three months supply of that and about $5 for ancillaries, so if you get your testing and you are low t, try to do it yourself, but make sure you do some research and you will be fine. Also, if you do end up going, they guarantee you will get a hard on before you leave from administered meds, or the visit is free, so make sure if you do decide to go, you nail them on that one.[/QUOTE]HeadShot. That is exactly the answer I was looking for and thank you for taking the time to respond! I had a feeling about them. I'm about to drop another $300 with an online pharm that I have actually been very happy with for about 5 years but I have been thinking about checking out GRMC instead. I spend about $600/ year with my online pharm and I am very happy with the results. I think I will stick to what I know works for me. Sorry about your bad experience (and loss of $99) but you saved a few of your brothers from dealing with that shit. The ultimate "TOFTT". LOL!

If you want to find out if you have low T, there's a relatively inexpensive blood test for that. When you go for your annual checkup and blood work ask to have them check your testosterone level. The test wasn't covered by my health insurance but it still only cost $70.00. Thing is, as we age testosterone naturally decreases. While ED is a real issue my doctor told me that in most cases it's a mental thing (you're just not into it) or a diet and exercise thing (losing weight and increasing your metabolism).