[QUOTE=Joelouky;1844993]What type of women are you visiting Muff Diver?[/QUOTE]Low rent rendezvous
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[QUOTE=Joelouky;1844993]What type of women are you visiting Muff Diver?[/QUOTE]Low rent rendezvous
Prostitution Common Myths.
Myth: A police officer cannot expose himself, drink alcohol, or use drugs while on duty.
Fact: Police officers have been known to do all of these things in order to catch suspected prostitutes, so do not assume that a client who is willing to show his penis cannot be a cop. When hotel rooms are used for stings, police will sometimes set out illegal drugs, hoping that providers will assume that law enforcement officers would never have drugs around. In State v. Morris, a Minnesota appeals court ruled that a police officer exposing himself to a provider wasn't outrageous enough to overturn a prostitution conviction. Cops will do whatever it takes to make arrests, and even experienced providers have been tricked into incriminating themselves.
Myth: If an undercover officer actually has sex with a provider, the provider can't get in trouble.
Fact: While it is unlikely that a law enforcement officer would go through with actually having sex with a provider, there have been cases wherein the police have hired a civilian to participate in a sting operation, in which case they could go through with sex.
Myth: Providers only have to worry about new clients potentially being undercover cops.
Fact: Law enforcement officials often leverage hobbyists who have been busted for other crimes to infiltrate the world of escorts and escort agencies. Sometimes the hobbyist won't even know he is being used as an informant until after the date. There have been cases where the police catch a hobbyist who is leaving a hotel and threaten to arrest him unless he incriminates the provider. Unfortunately people are often willing to turn on even their close friends in order to get themselves out of legal trouble and avoid public exposure.
Myth: There's nothing you can do to defend yourself if you get busted.
Fact: Everyone has the right to remain silent and not cooperate with authorities. Everyone has the right to consult with an attorney before deciding to talk to the police, and the police do not have to be honest when providing legal advice or promising that you will avoid prosecution if you cooperate. You should never say anything to authorities before consulting with an experienced prostitution attorney. You do not have to plead guilty or turn in your clients or fellow providers, though law enforcement will likely try to scare you into doing both.
Myth: Police only target providers who work on the streets in stings.
Fact: In a lot of areas, more providers have been caught through postings on Craigslist or other internet sites than have been arrested on the streets.
Common Myths about Prostitution Convictions.
Myth: It's only prostitution if you make it clear that you are trading money for sex.
Fact: Juries are allowed to consider the 'totality of the circumstances' and draw whatever conclusions seem reasonable to them, so it doesn't matter whether or not money is ever mentioned. If you post sexually suggestive photos and hourly rates on your website, then meet with a client who contacted you through your site, the jury will probably assume that you were charging for sex as well as companionship.
Myth: You are not guilty of prostitution if the client doesn't actually hand you the money, or if he tells you it is only a gift.
Fact: Juries often conclude that an offer or agreement to have sex for money was implied by your words or actions. So if the prosecution can prove that the client contacted you looking for sex, that you agreed to meet with him, and that he brought money to the meeting, you will probably be convicted even if there's no evidence that he actually gave you the money.
Myth: If you get suspicious that a client may be an undercover officer, you can avoid a prostitution conviction by telling him you changed your mind and don't want to have sex anymore (or that he doesn't have to pay for it).
Fact: As long as the prosecution can convince a jury that you agreed to trade sex for money, you are guilty of prostitution even if you later withdraw your offer. Providers in Minnesota who have tried to appeal prostitution convictions on this basis have not succeeded.
Common Myths about Prostitution Penalties.
Myth: You will face the same charges no matter where the 'act' occurs.
Fact: Prostitution that takes place in private homes is usually punished less harshly than prostitution that occurs in public places. Prostitution near a school or park is punished even more severely. Remember, courts consider prostitution to take place when you agree to have sex for money, not when the sexual encounter occurs. For instance, if you meet a client at a bar where you agree on a price, then return to your house to have sex—that is considered a public act of prostitution.
Myth: Prostitution is a petty crime which results in only minor punishments.
Fact: The least serious prostitution charge is a misdemeanor, punishable by up to a $1, 000 fine and no more than 90 days in jail. First offenses that occur in private homes are usually classified as misdemeanors.
Prostitution offenses can also be classified as gross misdemeanors, which carry a maximum fine of $3, 000 and a maximum sentence of one year in jail. Providers who commit public acts of prostitution, solicitation of prostitution, or who have past convictions for prostitution are generally charged with gross misdemeanors.
The most serious prostitution offenses are felonies, which can result in prison sentences of more than a year, or fines of more than $3, 000. Typical prostitution felonies involve minors, promoting the prostitution of another person, or prostitution-related racketeering charges.
Myth: A provider who brings a friend to a date isn't a pimp.
Fact: Police try to implicate as many people as they can in the most serious possible crimes when they conduct stings. Bringing a friend for purposes of prostitution will implicate you in the promotion of prostitution, a felony for which you can be sentenced to 15 years in prison and fined $30, 000 (or even more if your friend is under 18 years of age). Police will often threaten to charge providers with promotion of prostitution in order to convince them to snitch on their associates.
Any of the following activities can be considered promotion of prostitution:
A client pays you for both your services and you take a cut before giving your friend her share.
You help find clients for your friend (even if you don't participate in her dates)
You let your friend use your residence or hotel room to entertain her clients.
You drive your friend to an appointment with a client.
You give a client another provider's phone number, or give another provider a client's number (even if you don't make money from doing so)
Myth: Prostitution convictions can only lead to fines or jail time.
Fact: Minnesota police may seize any property used to commit or help commit a crime. So if you use your computer to book appointments, or drive your car to meet clients, the police can take these away from you, and they can also confiscate any money you earned through prostitution.
Myth: If you get arrested, no one will know.
Fact: Providers are charged under their real names, and arrest records are public knowledge, so it is actually quite likely that people will find out. In addition, the St. Paul and Minneapolis police departments often post the names and photos of people arrested for prostitution on their websites. Prostitution convictions stay on a person's record forever and will pop up whenever background checks of any kind are conducted.
[QUOTE=Ralphisit;1845292]Prostitution Common Myths[/QUOTE]Fact is, I really don't know what level of risk I'm assuming when I go out to play. Well, I'm pretty clear on what risks come from bad providers (rip-off, upsell, robbed by pimp, stalked by crazy-ass pro, attempted blackmail, etc.). But I actually have no idea what either the likelihood or magnitude of legal exposure are.
How many mongers get popped in this town, per annum?
How often does LE 'turn' providers to catch customers?
What level of penalty does a monger face, if nabbed?
What kinds of aggravating circumstances should be avoided (beyond the obvious don't-bring-drugs, etc.)?
One piece of advice from what you posted that applies to all of us: if confronted by Leo, just shut up until you've talked to an attorney. Just. Shut. Up.
[QUOTE=EightInDrill; 1845548]Fact is, I really don't know what level of risk I'm assuming when I go out to play. Well, I'm pretty clear on what risks come from bad providers (rip-off, upsell, robbed by pimp, stalked by crazy-ass pro, attempted blackmail, etc.). But I actually have no idea what either the likelihood or magnitude of legal exposure are.
How many mongers get popped in this town, per annum?
How often does LE 'turn' providers to catch customers?
What level of penalty does a monger face, if nabbed?
What kinds of aggravating circumstances should be avoided (beyond the obvious don't-bring-drugs, etc.)?
One piece of advice from what you posted that applies to all of us: if confronted by Leo, just shut up until you've talked to an attorney. Just. Shut. Up.[/QUOTE]If you take out the mongers that see SWs, I think our bigger risk is from getting robed or beat by a pimp. I also never rush to see a new girl, hey sorry but while I may see a girl with out any reviews, I will give her a least a week or so and try to have at least one converstion before seeing her.
Your last bit of advise is the best tho, if busted, heed Walter's comand and and "Shut the F* up Donny!" LOL
[QUOTE=EightInDrill; 1845548]Fact is, I really don't know what level of risk I'm assuming when I go out to play. Well, I'm pretty clear on what risks come from bad providers (rip-off, upsell, robbed by pimp, stalked by crazy-ass pro, attempted blackmail, etc.). But I actually have no idea what either the likelihood or magnitude of legal exposure are.
How many mongers get popped in this town, per annum?
How often does LE 'turn' providers to catch customers?
What level of penalty does a monger face, if nabbed?
What kinds of aggravating circumstances should be avoided (beyond the obvious don't-bring-drugs, etc.)?
One piece of advice from what you posted that applies to all of us: if confronted by Leo, just shut up until you've talked to an attorney. Just. Shut. Up.[/QUOTE]Hey sugar, it all is the same. Didn't you watch to catch a predator?
[QUOTE=Nobodies Fool;1845791]Hey sugar, it all is the same. Didn't you watch to catch a predator?[/QUOTE]Really? Nbf your right on.
Boy, I wonder how well we mongers would take it if the ladies regularly posted reviews of us? I can just imagine.
"Tips reasonably well, but dude, seriously, take a fkin shower!"
"Nice guy, but takes forever to finish. It helps him get there if you compliment the size of his dick, even if that's a lie."
I don't think most of us would react very well to honest commentary, even if it were a hundred times less harsh than some of the crap we throw around about our providers here.
Now that is funny and so so true.
[QUOTE=EightInDrill; 1846190]Boy, I wonder how well we mongers would take it if the ladies regularly posted reviews of us? I can just imagine.
"Tips reasonably well, but dude, seriously, take a fkin shower!"
"Nice guy, but takes forever to finish. It helps him get there if you compliment the size of his dick, even if that's a lie."
I don't think most of us would react very well to honest commentary, even if it were a hundred times less harsh than some of the crap we throw around about our providers here.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EightInDrill; 1846190]Boy, I wonder how well we mongers would take it if the ladies regularly posted reviews of us? I can just imagine.
"Tips reasonably well, but dude, seriously, take a fkin shower!"
"Nice guy, but takes forever to finish. It helps him get there if you compliment the size of his dick, even if that's a lie."
I don't think most of us would react very well to honest commentary, even if it were a hundred times less harsh than some of the crap we throw around about our providers here.[/QUOTE]You can't lose sight of who is paying and who is selling. The provider represents herself as being the best you've ever had, The monger shows up with a fistful of money. The monger virtually always delivers what is promised and demanded despite maybe not taking a shower. Providers use 10yr old pictures, upsell, bait and switch and so on. The whole reason review sites developed in the first place is to aid in the commerce of sorting good providers from bad or dishonest. We're like the Angie's list of beaver. No serious business gets the ability to rate their customers.
[QUOTE=ClitSpanker;1846215]No serious business gets the ability to rate their customers.[/QUOTE]In general, I agree that ours is a consumer's market, so that providers can't afford to be picky.
That said, almost every serious business *does* participate in a system that "rates" one particular aspect of their customers' lives: the credit-score racket is exactly that.
[QUOTE=EightInDrill; 1846234]In general, I agree that ours is a consumer's market, so that providers can't afford to be picky.
That said, almost every serious business *does* participate in a system that "rates" one particular aspect of their customers' lives: the credit-score racket is exactly that.[/QUOTE]A semi screening process, I suppose. Some we for sure won't see. (blackinsidue) and then iffys. Again per provider YMMV.
[QUOTE=EightInDrill; 1846190]Boy, I wonder how well we mongers would take it if the ladies regularly posted reviews of us? I can just imagine.
"Tips reasonably well, but dude, seriously, take a fkin shower!"
"Nice guy, but takes forever to finish. It helps him get there if you compliment the size of his dick, even if that's a lie."
I don't think most of us would react very well to honest commentary, even if it were a hundred times less harsh than some of the crap we throw around about our providers here.[/QUOTE]F* that, we are the ones with the cash. I really could care less how these girls view me, if one doesn't want to sell me her pussy the next one will. I am not there to be her prince, I'm there to f* her and leave. If they don't like getting negative reviews here or on other sites, then cut out what ever bs they are doing. Look, at any other type of review site, angies, trip advisor, etc. If the SP is giving crappy service and get bad reviews they either fix the problems or go out of business. Oh, they can and do finght back publicly on the revew, but if they think this is helping their business they are bigger idiots.
Now, after all that big talk, I do come clean, and try to be nice and respectful, but seriously, remember the phrase "he who has the gold make the rules.
[QUOTE=ClitSpanker;1846215]You can't lose sight of who is paying and who is selling. The provider represents herself as being the best you've ever had, The monger shows up with a fistful of money. The monger virtually always delivers what is promised and demanded despite maybe not taking a shower. Providers use 10yr old pictures, upsell, bait and switch and so on. The whole reason review sites developed in the first place is to aid in the commerce of sorting good providers from bad or dishonest. We're like the Angie's list of beaver. No serious business gets the ability to rate their customers.[/QUOTE]Preach on brother.
[QUOTE=Bigtlvr; 1846498]F* that, we are the ones with the cash. I really could care less how these girls view me, if one doesn't want to sell me her pussy the next one will. I am not there to be her prince, I'm there to f* her and leave. If they don't like getting negative reviews here or on other sites, then cut out what ever bs they are doing. Look, at any other type of review site, angies, trip advisor, etc. If the SP is giving crappy service and get bad reviews they either fix the problems or go out of business. Oh, they can and do finght back publicly on the revew, but if they think this is helping their business they are bigger idiots.
Now, after all that big talk, I do come clean, and try to be nice and respectful, but seriously, remember the phrase "he who has the gold make the rules.[/QUOTE]Oh my. There is other sites?
[QUOTE=Admin2;1846907]Preach on brother.[/QUOTE]The GOOD ONES. And I'm one of those.
[url]http://louisville.backpage.com/BodyRubs/2-sexy-country-girls-4-u-28/6009700[/url]
Try at your own risk, be warned. NO he or extras, barely a rub. Fast to accept your cash though!
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OPEN YOUR HYMNALS AND TURN TO THAT OLD CHURCH STANDARD that is loved in and certainly by members who are ardent and enamored of the hobby, THERE WILL BE PIECE IN THE VALLEY Kisses and hugs to the ladies. CHill out and enjoy the weekend.
[QUOTE=Puntang Man;1847458]OPEN YOUR HYMNALS AND TURN TO THAT OLD CHURCH STANDARD that is loved in and certainly by members who are ardent and enamored of the hobby, THERE WILL BE PIECE IN THE VALLEY Kisses and hugs to the ladies. CHill out and enjoy the weekend.[/QUOTE]Ah-yay-uh!
Looking for info. ANyone have any experience with her? PM me with info. Thank you.
Some escorts have asked me to join this P411. It asked alot of real identity info about the monger and it cost a lot. Read this below and tell me who would be crazy enough to do this. It is probably operated by the FBI to mine info from us.
"In order to set up your Preferred411 account we will most likely need personal information such as your name, phone number, and work information. The fee is $169.
Your personal information is destroyed once we are able to verify you.
Please understand that we are going to confirm that you're a legitimate client somehow. We will usually check your employment info and / or provider references. If we can verify that you're a long time member (in good standing) of a community that may be another way we can verify you.
All applicants must be verified to our satisfaction, and we can be pretty tough! If you are not prepared to provide this info or we cannot verify your info to our satisfaction, you will not be given Preferred411 membership.
Remember, we do not keep any identifying information on file, this ensures the safety and comfort of us all!"
Crazy to me I will stick to USSexGuide for my verification.
[QUOTE=Ralphisit; 1850268]Some escorts have asked me to join this P411. It asked alot of real identity info about the monger and it cost a lot. Read this below and tell me who would be crazy enough to do this. It is probably operated by the FBI to mine info from us.
"In order to set up your Preferred411 account we will most likely need personal information such as your name, phone number, and work information. The fee is $169.
Your personal information is destroyed once we are able to verify you.
Please understand that we are going to confirm that you're a legitimate client somehow. We will usually check your employment info and / or provider references. If we can verify that you're a long time member (in good standing) of a community that may be another way we can verify you.
All applicants must be verified to our satisfaction, and we can be pretty tough! If you are not prepared to provide this info or we cannot verify your info to our satisfaction, you will not be given Preferred411 membership.
Remember, we do not keep any identifying information on file, this ensures the safety and comfort of us all!"
Crazy to me I will stick to USSexGuide for my verification.[/QUOTE]Date check did the same thing to me several years back. It was legit and has allowed me to avoid giving references on several providers. However, it can be frustrating as not all providers will accept that as verification.
[QUOTE=Ralphisit; 1850268]Some escorts have asked me to join this P411. It asked alot of real identity info about the monger and it cost a lot. Read this below and tell me who would be crazy enough to do this. It is probably operated by the FBI to mine info from us.
"In order to set up your Preferred411 account we will most likely need personal information such as your name, phone number, and work information. The fee is $169.
Your personal information is destroyed once we are able to verify you.
Please understand that we are going to confirm that you're a legitimate client somehow. We will usually check your employment info and / or provider references. If we can verify that you're a long time member (in good standing) of a community that may be another way we can verify you.
All applicants must be verified to our satisfaction, and we can be pretty tough! If you are not prepared to provide this info or we cannot verify your info to our satisfaction, you will not be given Preferred411 membership.
Remember, we do not keep any identifying information on file, this ensures the safety and comfort of us all!"
Crazy to me I will stick to USSexGuide for my verification.[/QUOTE]I am a member and it has worked out well for me. Especially traveling. The fee is new. I think I paid $80+- per year including the last re-subscribe which was February. In addition to giving you some comfort that the provider is legit (and her some comfort that you are) , you can search for providers based on their menu, their price, incall vs. Outcall, etc. But, that is contingent on providers placing that info in their profiles.
[QUOTE=Ralphisit; 1850268]Some escorts have asked me to join this P411. It asked alot of real identity info about the monger and it cost a lot. Read this below and tell me who would be crazy enough to do this. It is probably operated by the FBI to mine info from us.
"In order to set up your Preferred411 account we will most likely need personal information such as your name, phone number, and work information. The fee is $169.
Your personal information is destroyed once we are able to verify you.
Please understand that we are going to confirm that you're a legitimate client somehow. We will usually check your employment info and / or provider references. If we can verify that you're a long time member (in good standing) of a community that may be another way we can verify you.
All applicants must be verified to our satisfaction, and we can be pretty tough! If you are not prepared to provide this info or we cannot verify your info to our satisfaction, you will not be given Preferred411 membership.
Remember, we do not keep any identifying information on file, this ensures the safety and comfort of us all!"
Crazy to me I will stick to USSexGuide for my verification.[/QUOTE]I'm with you Ralphisit, if a provider wants me to be a member before they see me, I'll just move on.
I'm a member of p411 and date-check. Sometimes one works for ladies better than the other. It is best for traveling or for traveling ladies. If you hobby in one area it probably isn't necessary.
Date check had a low price for lifetime membership. P411 has gone up a lot in the last couple of years.
[QUOTE=Ralphisit; 1850268]Some escorts have asked me to join this P411. It asked alot of real identity info about the monger and it cost a lot. Read this below and tell me who would be crazy enough to do this. It is probably operated by the FBI to mine info from us.
"In order to set up your Preferred411 account we will most likely need personal information such as your name, phone number, and work information. The fee is $169.
Your personal information is destroyed once we are able to verify you.
Please understand that we are going to confirm that you're a legitimate client somehow. We will usually check your employment info and / or provider references. If we can verify that you're a long time member (in good standing) of a community that may be another way we can verify you.
All applicants must be verified to our satisfaction, and we can be pretty tough! If you are not prepared to provide this info or we cannot verify your info to our satisfaction, you will not be given Preferred411 membership.
Remember, we do not keep any identifying information on file, this ensures the safety and comfort of us all!"
Crazy to me I will stick to USSexGuide for my verification.[/QUOTE]I am p411 and I'm a big fan. I travel and it makes it very easy to see a provider.
Should the Feds ever bust those sites, and they are trying, they would have you hook line and sinker. Your information, comments, contacts and your phone number.
[QUOTE=Ralphisit;1851087]Should the Feds ever bust those sites, and they are trying, they would have you hook line and sinker. Your information, comments, contacts and your phone number.[/QUOTE]Not to start an argument, but so what? What if the feds get my info? What have I done wrong? There is nothing there. The "illegal" stuff is done between me and the provider, behind closed doors, in cash. What can they do, intimate me? Osama has already proved that he can get whatever he wants on us, we no longer live in a free country.
It'd be hard to demonstrate much of anything by these sites. It's not like they are an agency and had a direct hand in setting up appointments. Everything is fantasy as far as I am concerned!
[QUOTE=Golf9979;1851255]Not to start an argument, but so what? What if the feds get my info? What have I done wrong? There is nothing there. The "illegal" stuff is done between me and the provider, behind closed doors, in cash. What can they do, intimate me? Osama has already proved that he can get whatever he wants on us, we no longer live in a free country.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Golf9979;1851255]Not to start an argument, but so what? What if the feds get my info? What have I done wrong? There is nothing there. The "illegal" stuff is done between me and the provider, behind closed doors, in cash. What can they do, intimate me? Osama has already proved that he can get whatever he wants on us, we no longer live in a free country.[/QUOTE]Really, if you were to get busted, & you have no girlfriend or wife, & if your job isn't sensitive to stuff like that, go at it!
[QUOTE=Ralphisit;1851087]Should the Feds ever bust those sites, and they are trying, they would have you hook line and sinker. [b]Your information, [u]comment[/u]s, [u]contact[/u]s and your phone number.[/b][/QUOTE]Even IF they could get all the info' from servers that are located in a foreign nation where the Fed's have no jurisdiction it would not be admissible in any Court unless it was obtained with a valid Warrant! & you would have to have been pretty foolish to detail how much you paid to whom for what illegal criminal activities! Because specifically detailed "comments" & "reviews" about fees & sexual activities are not mandatory parts of the process for using these verification services! Even if they could get any of your descriptions of what specific sexual activities you did with some provider + how much you paid for them (which would, I repeat, have been pretty foolish for you to write down) admitted as evidence: they would then have to prove that any alleged criminal activities actually did take place in reality & were not simply delusions or fantasies that you wrote down! Since only you & the provider would know what you paid + what you did: they would either (1) have to then get the provider to verify that what you admitted to in your "comment" or "review" of your time with her was, in fact, exactly what actually happened in reality, or (2) have recorded surveillance proving that payment was made by you for sexual activities with her; & in the end they would only have a simple misdemeanor indictment of you anyway. For the Fed's to engage in that would be like using a thermonuclear bomb to kill a single mosquito!
[QUOTE=Golf9979;1851255]Not to start an argument, but so what? What if the feds get my info? What have I done wrong? There is nothing there. The "illegal" stuff is done between me and the provider, behind closed doors, in cash. What can they do, [b][u]intimate[/u][/b][[i]sic[/i]]{"[b][u]intimIDate[/u][/b]"} me? [b][u]Osama[/u][/b]{?} has already proved that he can get whatever he wants on us, we no longer live in a free country.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Ol Muff Diver;1851622]Really, if you were to get busted, & you have no girlfriend or wife, & if your job isn't sensitive to stuff like that, go at it![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ol Muff Diver;1851622]Really, if you were to get busted, & you have no girlfriend or wife, & if your job isn't sensitive to stuff like that, go at it![/QUOTE]Again, how are they going to "bust" me for being a member of a verification site? What have I done that is illegal?
[QUOTE=Golf9979;1851847]Again, how are they going to "bust" me for being a member of a verification site? What have I done that is illegal?[/QUOTE]About this ID sight crap as it could be argued for days to no avail, if you want to join one then do it or if not don't. Let's get to a real conversation about why LMCD doesn't release some of our talents that they have in the hole for minor offenses in order to relieve the overcrowding that's making the news. Surely having your own little stash and providing a little pleasure for cash doesn't merit 30 to 60 days. Bust the dealers not the victims.
[QUOTE=Kyowa;1851720]For the Fed's to engage in that would be like using a thermonuclear bomb to kill a single mosquito![/QUOTE]Agree with you Kyowa. The only time this might come into play is when there is a significant impact with the public like for a public figure, I. E. Spitzer type case. And then only if they could get the provider to cooperate.
I don't use these verification sites. Haven't found them all that necessary in my dreaming.
JZ
[QUOTE=Kyowa;1851720]Even IF they could get all the info' from servers that are located in a foreign nation where the Fed's have no jurisdiction it would not be admissible in any Court unless it was obtained with a valid Warrant! & you would have to have been pretty foolish to detail how much you paid to whom for what illegal criminal activities! Because specifically detailed "comments" & "reviews" about fees & sexual activities are not mandatory parts of the process for using these verification services! Even if they could get any of your descriptions of what specific sexual activities you did with some provider + how much you paid for them (which would, I repeat, have been pretty foolish for you to write down) admitted as evidence: they would then have to prove that any alleged criminal activities actually did take place in reality & were not simply delusions or fantasies that you wrote down! Since only you & the provider would know what you paid + what you did: they would either (1) have to then get the provider to verify that what you admitted to in your "comment" or "review" of your time with her was, in fact, exactly what actually happened in reality, or (2) have recorded surveillance proving that payment was made by you for sexual activities with her; & in the end they would only have a simple misdemeanor indictment of you anyway. For the Fed's to engage in that would be like using a thermonuclear bomb to kill a single mosquito![/QUOTE]When did prostitution become a federal offense? Did I miss something?
Any lawyers interested in taking on a hotel chain, I got nailed with bed bug bites. PM PLEASE
[blue]Based on a reported post I have identified a provider in Louisville that has created a few monger profiles. Two of them are some pretty long time members. I'm not going to call them out, but I've placed them on moderation. I think she has a few more. If you recognize any posters, they could be regular members or senior members, with the following qualities please drop me a line.
[list]Never, ever posts any in depth reviews, no cocks going into any pussies EVER[/list][list]Likes to correct peoples grammar[/list][list]Has a history of hating Mercedes Renee[/list][list]Likes to quote the forum rules a lot[/list][list]Lots of negative comments about other providers[/list]You can let me know by reporting a post and making your thoughts known in the comments, or just send me a PM. I'll investigate and figure it out, her writing style is very distinctive.
To the chick in question, I will find them all, I will put them all on moderation, I know which is your provider account, if you don't knock it off I will deny you the use of this forum. If you don't believe me ask Deanna Diamond in Jacksonville. Oh wait, you can't. Want to know why? Because I have denied her the use of the forum and I banned all her alts. I will go so far as to disallow any reviews of you, positive or negative for as long as I have anything to do with this forum. This is your one and only get out of jail card. Stop now and there can be peace.
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[QUOTE=Jeffredee;1852130]When did prostitution become a federal offense? Did I miss something?[/QUOTE]Prostitution per se is not a Federal matter, but as soon as a provider crosses state lines, it can become one.
The notoriously ambiguous Mann Act, passed in 1910, made it a Federal offense to transport 'women or girls' across State lines "for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose."
Then, as now, the justification for the law was prostitution-related human trafficking, although in 1910 that went by the super-scary name "white slavery."
The relevant section of the law has been modified several times since 1910, but it appears to me that it is still true that if someone drives a provider across the bridge to meet up with a client, the driver could conceivably face Federal flak. Same if you purchased a plane ticket for a provider to come meet you. If I recall correctly, part of the justification for going after Eliot Spitzer was that one of his girls flew in to meet him in DC.
How likely is any of this? Who the hell knows. But "human trafficking" is as hot-button a term in 2013 as "white slavery" was in 1910. So, let's be careful out there, OK?
[QUOTE=Admin2; 1856533][blue]Based on a reported post I have identified a provider in Louisville that has created a few monger profiles. Two of them are some pretty long time members. I'm not going to call them out, but I've placed them on moderation. I think she has a few more. If you recognize any posters, they could be regular members or senior members, with the following qualities please drop me a line.
[list]Never, ever posts any in depth reviews, no cocks going into any pussies EVER[/list][list]Likes to correct peoples grammar[/list][list]Has a history of hating Mercedes Renee[/list][list]Likes to quote the forum rules a lot[/list][list]Lots of negative comments about other providers[/list]You can let me know by reporting a post and making your thoughts known in the comments, or just send me a PM. I'll investigate and figure it out, her writing style is very distinctive.
To the chick in question, I will find them all, I will put them all on moderation, I know which is your provider account, if you don't knock it off I will deny you the use of this forum. If you don't believe me ask Deanna Diamond in Jacksonville. Oh wait, you can't. Want to know why? Because I have denied her the use of the forum and I banned all her alts. I will go so far as to disallow any reviews of you, positive or negative for as long as I have anything to do with this forum. This is your one and only get out of jail card. Stop now and there can be peace.
A2[/blue][/QUOTE]A thought, can you out the screen names without outing the provider? I ask because I know a lot of information is shared via PM and I think I can speak for many board members that we all would just prefer to not share detailed experiences with this supposed member.
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[QUOTE=Sunycide; 1856951]A thought, can you out the screen names without outing the provider? I ask because I know a lot of information is shared via PM and I think I can speak for many board members that we all would just prefer to not share detailed experiences with this supposed member.
Thanks[/QUOTE][blue]I don't want to do that at this time, I appreciate your conundrum, but I don't want to drive them all underground yet. Just review some posts from the person you're PMing. If they ever said they fucked somebody, and provided any level of detail, it's not one of these.
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