General Reports

[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;7476706]That's a bunch of BS.

When the the and BPD took down the The League they ruined many average Joe clients lives and lost everything.[/QUOTE]33 guys were arrested and they got arrested because they got involved in the business. They "rescued" (big fucking eye roll) 12 victims of human trafficking that were somehow being forced to work against their will from apartments they could freely come and go from.

If there were 12 chicks working the number of johns would have been in the hundreds.

[QUOTE=Admin2;7477026]33 guys were arrested and they got arrested because they got involved in the business. They "rescued" (big fucking eye roll) 12 victims of human trafficking that were somehow being forced to work against their will from apartments they could freely come and go from.

If there were 12 chicks working the number of johns would have been in the hundreds.[/QUOTE]The guys running the show got the headlines. What probably went unreported are the hobbyists who got marched to court, copped to the charges and took plea deals — pay a fine, community service, probation, immunity or reduced charges for testimony, etc. Not exactly the most riveting stuff besides maybe a passing sentence in a news story.

[QUOTE=Markro3000;7476803]
And more importantly, I doubt they get you to a trial without you confessing to crimes. Saying nothing if asked is still currently protected in the US.[/QUOTE]For now at least. But this is really the most important point. Never, ever, for any reason or under any circumstances answer ANY question from a LEO or the outside the presence of your lawyer. They can and will say all sorts of shit to convince you that it's in your best interest but they are lying and are legally allowed to do so. They have one goal, to fuck your life up. Never forget that. Exercise your rights to the fullest extent possible.

You are not obligated to answer questions without an attorney even if you aren't being detained. You are not obligated to assist the investigation in any way unless there's a warrant, subpoena, or other form of court order. You cannot be compelled by police to give out your phone or computer password (and never use face or touch I'd, popo can just hold it up to your face or put your finger on the screen).

Anyway, as has already been said, I think the only way they could get you on this is if you were fairly explicit in text. The WA statues says that 'agreeing' to pay for it is the crime. Even so. It seems like that's still a much harder case to prove from a text than, say, handing cash over to an undercover.

Now, here's a moment of true paranoia. If AP was taking video inside the rooms for some sort of blackmail scheme and that's been seized by popo that's a bad day for anyone who partook. They got video of the act, the transaction, and that little wee-wee that will be shown in court. Likely? Let's hope not. Possible? Unfortunately.

This is a good lesson to remember to mind what we say over text to anyone. After a few times it's probably easy to get comfortable with the bookers and providers. Keep it vague.

It's interesting to go back and read the limited media reports on "The League".

First of all, it seems they went after the high volume guys -- in addition to the purported organizer. Presumably the theory there is "we have evidence you did this many times, we don't have to prove all of them in court, just one or two of them. If you plead out here, we'll go easy on you". And they did apparently go easy on the rest of them, but certainly there is lingering life damage to those whose names appear on criminal records, etc.

Second of all, it seems they made a big show of claiming this was a "trafficking" bust, but the ring leader (who did get convicted) wasn't even charged with trafficking. Why? Presumably because there was no trafficking. They got him on counts of "promoting prostitution" and he clearly chose to fight in court (or maybe wasn't given a plea option because they needed to salvage some courtroom win from this fiasco?

Likely, if something happened at Asian Pink, there was excitement at Bellevue PD that they "again saved a bunch of women". Of course they didn't. Also, this isn't "The League 2. 0". There's not a large group of sites and women here. There was a rotating group of, what, 2-4 people? They travel around the country then go back to Korea? Honestly, I don't know how this works, but it seems to fall quite a bit short of coercion, let alone trafficking. I imagine there's "a name" that they have identified as the "ring leader". But is there any evidence anyone was arrested? It seems with "The League" they chose to make a splash with the arrests. Here, what's the plan? Arrest people after Christmas?

I'm seeing scant evidence that they've "uncovered anything". I'm seeing the typical evidence that the police decided to put an end to a bunch of people doing a bunch of consensual things that are technically illegal and maybe really quite annoying to neighbors. As a person that has lived in apartment buildings, I wouldn't want a prostitution operation in my building either.

Maybe it's time for a real progressive somewhere to start licensing brothels. And maybe it's time for the police to re-dedicate resources to property crime or actual trafficking, instead of this nonsense.

That's my take. Stay safe and be smart.

BPD and King County go after incalls in that area (Bellevue / Newcastle / Redmond) pretty aggressively and have for decades. Particular AAMPs and things that act like them. There are lots of other options out there in areas that don't have local LE with a woody about going after the hookers and johns.