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[QUOTE=Flipper69;7624073]It used to be like that brother. Couple of years ago things started to change and also the Sugar Dating sites got flooded with escorts so difficult to tell them apart anymore. You might still find a traditional SB, but most of them operate pretty much like escorts where most of the arrangements are PPM based and lot of the guys (including myself) establish a rotation of girls, which gets updated periodically as well. So to be fair there is no exclusivity on either side. I used to have a traditional SB, which was supposed to be exclusive, but caught her breaking the rules of the arrangement and will never do it again as most of these girls can't be trusted at all to maintain exclusivity. For example, why just limit yourself to one or two dates per week when you can easily add more and make more money in the process (from their perspective). There are always exceptions obviously and you might be with SB that's extremely loyal.[/QUOTE]I should have clarified a smidge more. They are supposed to be loyal. As the one bringing the money to the situation, we can do whatever we want. I'm reading the thread and it appears (again, I can be wrong), just seems like 1 k escorts. I guess we are operating under the illusion they are civilians. To each their own I guess.

I can understand the argument that they do look better than most escorts but I also see a ton of GPS and a bunch of jumping hoops.

I love the feedback and actually appreciate the feedback. Everyone appears to have a somewhat clear head on the topic.

So basically in summary, we all know what a SD / SB relationship is supposed to look like but we are willing to pay 1 k-1. 2 k to bang a prostitute but we call them SB to make ourselves feel better.

Are they actually blowing your brains out? I feel like I go to MGM and bring home a casino girl for 3-500 and have an utter blast. Never a buyers remorse situation.

[QUOTE=AnonDemon69;7624315]There are a few differences between Escort / Prostitutes and SB's. I think you guys are being a bit dramatic.

* SB's don't just sit around a hotel room and make three to four appointments per day like High End escorts do. If you are not the first client of the day, you are basically tasting someone else's cum. Most of the High End escorts let you CIM and some swallow. BBFS is only done for an up-charge but you will spend around 800 to 1 k. Although the Asian Escort agencies are charging so cheap, that even with an up-charge you can get BBFS for under 600.[/QUOTE]I was thinking the exact same as the above, but didn't want to waste my time responding to all the chatter about SB's being prostitutes. If you know, you know! But again the above clearly defines the differences. They and we know its a gray line! But your not going to get an escort to spend 4/5 hours with you or spend the night, etc.

[QUOTE=StuckNmiddle;7624317]I should have clarified a smidge more. They are supposed to be loyal. As the one bringing the money to the situation, we can do whatever we want. I'm reading the thread and it appears (again, I can be wrong), just seems like 1 k escorts. I guess we are operating under the illusion they are civilians. To each their own I guess.

I can understand the argument that they do look better than most escorts but I also see a ton of GPS and a bunch of jumping hoops.[/QUOTE]Some for sure are loyal "ish"; some care about their body count and really are looking for just 1 to help pay for their bills or just to supplement their lifestyle. Others have a roster, just as many of us do. You have some naive ones, and you have some very experienced ones. Just like some of you on this board.

Some dudes on this board like to just go straight to the hotel / FC and have their fun and be done. Others like to go out on dates and then go back to the FC. Everyone's diff and same with the sb's. Decide the types that you are looking for and the type of SD you want to be.

[QUOTE=Mandane;7624057]Mr Number is an app on iPhone (probably on Android too). It's 2 or 3 bucks a month. It does a good job in looking up numbers and attaching name. It also has a report funtion. Escorts and some AMPs use the report funtion. They will look up your monger phone number to see of there are any dings on you. Pro SBs use it too now. If you have a thumbs up from a MP or Escort you are good.

It's worth a purchase for investigating SBs too. Many a SB I've been able to identify only via Mr Number. Not the facial recognition sites that I don't pay for. Some guys report on SB's and Escorts on the app too. It's definitely worth knowing what comes up on your number.

Not sure where the SB thread is. Maybe he means the sugarbabbiesonly forum on Reddit?[/QUOTE]Much appreciated.

[QUOTE=StuckNmiddle;7624317]I should have clarified a smidge more. They are supposed to be loyal. As the one bringing the money to the situation, we can do whatever we want. I'm reading the thread and it appears (again, I can be wrong), just seems like 1 k escorts. I guess we are operating under the illusion they are civilians. To each their own I guess.

I can understand the argument that they do look better than most escorts but I also see a ton of GPS and a bunch of jumping hoops.[/QUOTE]You nailed it. I see the opinions highlighting the differences by some of the brothers here. I might have used harsher words, that's my personality, but I agree and I'm not disputing those points, but if you look at the experiences that everyone's sharing here, today's SBs are much closer to escorts then they were several years ago, when exclusivity and loyalty in these relationships were non negotiable. Now we have each other girls in our rotations, and to a degree are passing them around.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/lizziegeorgee/[/URL]

Match with this one and she literally begging to meet asap. Didn't even care about $$.

Sending nudes like crazy. Jealous of the NYC dudes. She's one of many and all I see are people going crazy for cum buckets like bunny or whatever.

[QUOTE=StuckNmiddle;7624323]I love the feedback and actually appreciate the feedback. Everyone appears to have a somewhat clear head on the topic.

So basically in summary, we all know what a SD / SB relationship is supposed to look like but we are willing to pay 1 k-1. 2 k to bang a prostitute but we call them SB to make ourselves feel better.

Are they actually blowing your brains out? I feel like I go to MGM and bring home a casino girl for 3-500 and have an utter blast. Never a buyers remorse situation.[/QUOTE]No, we are not willing to pay 1 k. The game is getting them for 500 or around there and getting this experience. The guys that are overpaying are probably not very good looking, overweight, really old, or have just shit game. And yes, they need to blow your brains out or we aint repeating and the SB will just be passed around like a prostitute.

[QUOTE=StuckNmiddle;7624323]I love the feedback and actually appreciate the feedback. Everyone appears to have a somewhat clear head on the topic.

So basically in summary, we all know what a SD / SB relationship is supposed to look like but we are willing to pay 1 k-1. 2 k to bang a prostitute but we call them SB to make ourselves feel better.

Are they actually blowing your brains out? I feel like I go to MGM and bring home a casino girl for 3-500 and have an utter blast. Never a buyers remorse situation.[/QUOTE]I think you got it right bro and the key to the answer of this entire subject resides in the price tag. You mentioned 1 k - 1. 2 k to bang one of these SBs. While that seems to be their asking price for most at least, folks rarely pay that (I haven't paid more than 500 ppm in the last year or so, and based on the testimonials here, it's same with many others). Primary reason is that they are not being priced as SBs but rather as mid tier escorts. While we operate in somewhat of a gray market, at the end of the day it's still kind of a free market economy with strong supply / demand laws and price equilibrium. So if unsure what they are or what we are dealing with (SBs, low, mid or high end escorts) we can just get the answers looking at the market prices. Now that said, there are definitely additional perks (and some cons) with the SBs. Even though they get paid mid tier escorts rates, they do stick around longer and yes we can stay in touch outside of that particular date, as some of our bros here pointed it out. But at the same time, to get them into our rotations, at times we do need to jump through some hoops.

[QUOTE=AnonDemon69;7624388]No, we are not willing to pay 1 k. The game is getting them for 500 or around there and getting this experience. The guys that are overpaying are probably not very good looking, overweight, really old, or have just shit game. And yes, they need to blow your brains out or we aint repeating and the SB will just be passed around like a prostitute.[/QUOTE]This is spot on!

[QUOTE=Starwod1982;7624224]Well, this one might be heading in that direction too LOL. I think you are like third one for the week that we know of.[/QUOTE]Oh well, hopefully she won't be too stretched out bug the time it's my turn LOL.o

[QUOTE=PRMan12;7623759]Get all these girls in the 300-500 range, and of course timing is everything! Well done!

Another slump buster for the newbs; she's been reviewed before, but looks like she is active again. 300 or under.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f92972c7-ba0b-4dfb-a0da-2b7e821525e5[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks brother for sharing. I'll jump on this one as it's kinda my type. Will report back.

[QUOTE=YannisDoe80;7623141]Here's a 1 k beauty that I think is worth 1 k. Verified 22 yo and stunning. Anyone been with her yet? Will see if I can bring it down to 800 and I'll take the plunge here.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e1b20899-b716-418e-9db4-ad260c128754[/URL][/QUOTE]Bumping this one up to see if there is any additional input. She's ok with 800 but I haven't pulled the trigger yet. Still think it's kind of high, but she's stunning 22 yo!

The type of girl I'm interested in 20-25 with a pretty girl-next-door face would cost 1000-1500 for ONE hour as escorts. And even the high-end escorts don't have that GND look. These SB only want 600 ish and are fine with hanging out for 5 hours (not all sex, for me it's dinner, hotel, watch a TV show together, talk and share interests), so it's way more cost effective than escorts.

High-end escorts want 10000 for a weekend trip, SB will be fine with 2-3 PPM.

[QUOTE=PRMan12;7624325]I was thinking the exact same as the above, but didn't want to waste my time responding to all the chatter about SB's being prostitutes. If you know, you know! But again the above clearly defines the differences. They and we know its a gray line! But your not going to get an escort to spend 4/5 hours with you or spend the night, etc.[/QUOTE]If you're getting them to spend the night and you can bang them multiple times then that's something well worth it. If that's the standard or expectation then I stand corrected.