Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Tractorman;1932252]I forget her name. She has large "wing tats" on her back and she is petite with nice be's. So lets call her Winged Spinner (I recall her saying she would turn 21 in late Nov).

Summary: Great time. Hope to repeat.

Details: She will ask for 1.2/1.5 for CBJ / CFS. In the end, she agreed to both for $1. Well worth it (though she does somewhat rush). Great oral skills while on her knees. And then she got on top and rode me hard (I think she was expecting a qucik session, but she did stay with it until I got done).

She is tall, thin, brunette - Saw her on a Sunday afternoon[/QUOTE]Tman, I do love spinners but I have never had a winged spinner. This might be a good reason to try a new club.

I love the idea of winged spinner, I have actually never had any girls with wings.

It could be fun.

[QUOTE=Samperkins420;1934965] I don't really have anything to add other than I'm looking forward to stopping in and getting some with a random girl.[/QUOTE]Sk420,

I know that thought, I am from out of state also and I look forward to that every time I head to Michigan.

Here's to random girls who put out.

[QUOTE=JulesJordan;1935723]I arrived at 10:15 there were 20 dancers (five 8's, mostly 7's, and a few 6's, a 40/60 colored to non-colored ratio) with about 40 customers. My friend and I ended up talking a long time with Chloe (18 years old, white, brunette, taller height with a very tight body with Bcup tits and a nice ass, very few body tats) and Allie (19 years old, white, brunette, tight body with Bcup tits and a nice ass), turns out that they are half sisters and they just started working at BT's 2 or 3 weeks ago. Chloe started dancing at BT's when she turned 18 a few weeks ago. They were both fun to talk with, tonight must have been my lucky night because out of all the dancers there I was most interested in Chloe. We ended up agreeing on $.3 total for FS, she pushed hard for $.5.

In the VIP Chloe gave me a decent warm up dance and I sucked on her tits some then we made out. Next she stripped down and I did DATY to her nicely kept giner. I pulled my rod out and she gave me a good BBBJ which included lots of DT then I did FIV to get her warmed up and she covered me up. I pounded her hard in K9 and she felt great / tight. We switched to CG and she rode it well then back to K9 then RCG with a HJ finish. The only bummers were that Chloe asked me not to finish inside her and she didn't want to give me a BBBJ finish because she doesn't like residual cover taste. Afterwards we kissed some more and she gave me her phone # for takeout. Chloe mentioned that she usually works Thurs, Fri, and Sat nights with an occasional day shift.

My friend did BBBJ / FS with Allie for $.3, he said that it was solid GFE action but Allie is alittle inexperienced.

Overall, Chloe is an attractive young dancer that provides solid unrushed GFE action, however she's alittle inexperienced and I may have overwhelmed her some but I would still repeat with her. My total time at the club was two hours.[/QUOTE]JJ, another awesome report. This would be my fantasy. I would even be tempted to do a double, and have two teenagers at the same time 18 and 19, half sisters pleasuring me. I don't see it getting much better.

I am in awe of your adventures.

As for the residual cover taste, I often get fruit flavor condoms. The girls seem to really like them, I guess they are an unusual novelty.

I have no problem with inexperience peelers, I have enough experience for both of us.

Keep up the good work.

[QUOTE=HeywoodJablomi;1936643]Recently stopped into BTs on a weekend night. There were a lot of new faces in the joint, some eights, some sevens, and some sixes. I had my eyes on a little Lolita thing that looked new. Pretty little mouth. Tight clean body with perky little a-cups. But before I could set anything up along came one of my faves, Nessa, a sexy 5'7" ebony babe with perky be-cups, nice ass, and a real down-to-earth personality. She has been mentioned here before, not only by me, but it's worth repeating that she is totally awesome. I took her back for the usual, BBBJ and CFS in CG and K9, followed by BBBJCIM. Pretty close to GFE as usual. 120 plus tip. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Heywood, Great report. It makes me want to go to BTs. I did a session with Nessa also, I am not as into her as you are but it was still good.

I am glad to see you having fun.

[QUOTE=FaucherFan;1936993]I know everyone has their own type that they like but when I go to the SC I want a girl that I can't / shouldn't have in the real world. Like a 19 yr old spinner who wasn't even born yet when I was finishing college. IMO their might have been one girl out of the 12 working that was a "7". Most were late 30's looking and heavy set or very curvy. So one drink and hit the door.

When I go to Bts Sat night the girls should look like super models compared to the 50 girls I seen on dayshift today.[/QUOTE]FF, I am with you. I look for those school boy fantasy type girls, the ones I chased when I was in college. If I wanted 30 or 40 year old girls who are overweight with droopy tits I can go to any Bennigans or Chiles and pull those ladies for free. I am just too darn old to get a hot college girl in a bar anymore.

Have fun with your super model, I usually find something in BTs that makes me hard and give me a fantasy experience.

[QUOTE=Electronman;1939224]I ran across this report on a different discussion board:

Hamilton's Bogart v. Michigan, 501 F .3rd 644 (CA6, 2007).

Impact.[URL]mlive.com[/URL]/ lansing-news / print. Html? Entry=/2013/11/ spiral_notes. Html.

It reports that a 2007 court ruling found that full nudity and sex acts are "expressive conduct" protected by the First Amendment." The interpretation is that full nudity is allowed in Michigan clubs that serve alcohol.

I've heard reports that some of the dancers at Flight Club were going fully nude. Can anyone confirm? Does anyone know which clubs, other than the no alcohol Deja Vu chain, are featuring fully nude dancers?

Also, what is your interpretation of "sex acts" in the ruling? Does this mean that we can expect to see more explicit stage shows?[/QUOTE]Eman, this is a bit of surprising good news.

I am think more nudity and sex acts would be an improvement. I hope to see them soon.

[QUOTE=MoeMonger;1939511]Might include nude lap dances, them is good, they do them in some clubs in Maryland.[/QUOTE]Moe, I thought all lap dances are supposed to be nude.

I might spend a song sucking on her tits but as soon as we get to the grinding the first thing I do is take my dick out.

I thought that is what everyone did in Detroit.

[QUOTE=JDirt;1941020]There is a "Strip Club Advice" section on Peeler Review, feel free to use anything I have posted over there, or anyone can PM me there anytime (I'm not on this site too often).

1) Always table negotiate. This means negotiate your deal out on the floor; not in the VIP. It's impossible to negotiate a good deal when a Peeler is rubbing on your cock. Negotiating is not just how much, but what services you want and how long you want them for. And ask BEFORE you go into the VIP, she's not going to fuck you for 150 if you just got 75 worth of clean dances.

2) Never pay before service, always pay after. If the dancer tries to pull some bullshit half way through the first song you can just pay her for that one song and try another stripper. If you give her the money up front; you are SOL if she pulls any BS. Any dancer that wants her money up front is a major red flag! Don't even give her half up front.

3) Don't let them know you're new at the strip club scene.

4) Wearing expensive clothing or Jewelry doesn't get you laid, it just jacks up her price.

5) Try going during the slow times of the days or week. Going during peak hours will make it much harder to score a deal. You may not meet the hottest dancer during off peak time, but it will make it easier to learn the ropes.

6) Bring a condom, unless you plan on paying top dollar for one at the bar.

7) No song count, tell her you want 20 to 30 minutes in the VIP.

8) Don't over pay, there are a lot of escorts you can see for $150 or less, for 30 minutes of FS on a king sized bed. So there is no reason to pay $200 or more for 3 or 4 songs.

9) If your looking for FS don't settle for a HJ or BJ. If she tells you she only does HJ or BJ (bullshit) she does FS, you just have to stand your ground and tell her you will pass because you're looking for more. She will come around.

10) A little hygiene and manscaping goes a long way. I like to let them know that I'm fresh out the shower, no girl wants to suck on sweaty hairy balls.

I'm a single guy, so I don't worry about getting busted by my SO. Stuff like perfume, stripper glitter, or long hairs stuck to my balls from the BJ can be trouble. It would be nice if some of the married mongers posted a few tips on how not to get busted by your SO, or how to get out of the house. I know guys that keep a change of clothes in their car or tell their SO that their going to playing poker.

I hope this helps, feel free to use or not use (edit) anything from my list.

Joe Dirt.[/QUOTE]JD, Thanks for the refresher course. I sometimes think I know what I am doing and then I read a list like this and think, I still have a lot to learn.

I appreciate the education.

[QUOTE=HeywoodJablomi;1941197]Recently hit BTs on dayshift. Some new hot talent. Should have gone for the new spunky afro caramel cutie whose name I can't remember (any help? But I was hoping for Chloe's company. Chloe is 18, lovely, tall, snow white, brunette with perky natural Bees. An 8.5 or 9. See Jules' report. Sadly she was already booked and kept company at a table without ever heading to the VIP in the two hours I was there.

I was first approached by Paradise, a slender young white girl with mixed blond / brown hair, new tats, A-cup titties, a nice tight azz, and slightly crooked teeth. She seemed familiar, but I couldn't remember. Excused myself, went to the restroom, and checked reviews from this site and PR on my phone. I was saved by my own review on PR (which I didn't repeat here). In a previous encounter, once we got to the VIP she "forgot" the deal we prenegotiated two minutes earlier. I ended up standing my ground on that occasion and getting my way, but I know better than to repeat with a ROB. Sent her packing.

Was next approached aggressively with immediate handshake by Shawnee (Shawna? A slightly older slender trailerpark mom with cigarette breath and at least one missing molar (there I go again). She gets bad reviews from other peelers for sketchy behavior.

I ended up going back with Neveah, a brunette with natural Dees and a soft tummy, for half and half for 100 plus 20 tip if I like the service. She's been reported on here before. Although her manner of speech was ghetto, her attitude was very good, and she treated me right. YMMV. Case in point, see Plumber2's report. She didn't give me any ROB BS, but I concur that she needs to spend more time with her razor. In the VIP she stripped down, declared her no-FIV rule (see Jules' report), and started with a warm-up lap-dance introduction to her big cans. Nice big suckable nipples. After the first song, she started CBJ, which doesn't usually do it for me. But her skill was good, and she was persistent. I had to ask her to stop in order to avoid busting too early. I had a full chamber and a hair trigger that day. She climbed on for CG and was pretty tight. She seemed to get into it and didn't rush me. Although I usually like to switch to K9, I let her ride me to completion while I played with the girls. I paid the full 120 for a job well done. I would repeat in a pinch, but probably won't because I've got a long "to do" list.[/QUOTE]Heywood, another good report.

It really helps us out of towners.

Your new spunky afro caramel cutie, her name is Egypt.

I agree with you about Chloe, I got hard reading JJ report on her. I likely would have waited for her, but I too much of a sucker young spinner peelers.

Don't know Paradise.

Between you and JJ, you have convinced me that Neveah is on my skip list.

[QUOTE=HeywoodJablomi;1941233] LOL. If I actually worked out as much as I pretend to, I'd be Mr. Universe. So, this system of deception requires that I find other occasions for exercise. For example, doing push ups, crunches, squats, etc. In the office.[/QUOTE]Heywood,

I have seen guys doing push ups at work. I even commented to a co-worker about why don't they just go to a gym.

You finally explained it to me. I now understand what they do when they say they are at the gym.

I suddenly find myself with a new respect for the push up guy.

[QUOTE=FunSeeker0000;1941319]
Went to FC on Monday night. It was overall pretty dead, but I find most of the dancers to be pretty attractive.- there were probably 6 girls working, and only 10 guys in there. Maybe that's a good thing. I went there with a girl I met on AFF, who's into other girls. We spent most of the evening drinking and discussing which girls we liked. She asked me to to pick whoever I liked best for a private dance. We found one girl who said she'd do four songs for $, but we also hinted that we'd want more. The stripper said her BF has been pushing her to try being with a girl, and it was clear that she was interested in walking that path with the girl I was with. (That girl, by the way, is half Thai, 5'4", slim, shaved, 1 tat). We went into the room, and she pushed my girl on the loveseat. She started stripping over her, my girl sucking on her nipples. The stripper than started making out with my girl, on top of her, and really getting into it. My face was inches away. I then pulled her face up and had her kiss me deep before pushing her head down toward my girl's crotch. She obliged; my girl pulled up her own dress and I pulled my girls panties to one side. The stripper and I talked about how pretty she was, and where I like to lick. The stripper went to town for a while, burying her face into my girl. She then Sat. Me down and used her hand on both of us, one hand on her and one on me. She then wanted to watch my girl and I get into it, and we did. She.- the stripper.- then wanted a long, tongue-filled 3-way kiss. The songs had ended, and I left feeling both satisfied but also disappointed I hadn't milked it for more.- she would have been willing.
[/QUOTE]FS0, this make me want to check out AFF. I have dated many girls and I don't know any that would be up for this.

I actually used this approach as my break up line for a while. When I was done with a girl, I would tell her that I didn't think 1 girl was enough for me. I would like to take her to a strip club and watch her get it on with a stripper. Most girls broke up with me the very next day. I think the longest it took one was 9 days.

It worked really well. There was no drama. None of this crap about its not you but the problem is me. None of this can we still be friends. She would say, I never want to date you or see you again. I was like that perfect, I am moving on to something new and something better.

I was drooling when I read your report and would love to do what you did with a girl.

Great job.

[QUOTE=SecretMe;1941332]
I'm a multi-popper. I don't monger super often...but, when I do, I've historically gone the escort route for longer dates so that I can indulge multiple times in the session. I'm usually not satiated until after at least two or three pops. From the various recent reports and guides, tips, advice provided here...it doesn't seem all that common for a multi-pop sesh to happen in the club. Seems like gents hit up 2 or 3, etc. I'd like the idea of hitting up a club and scoring with 2-3 ladies during the visit.

Have any of you tried this? What experience have you had? Pros / cons of one-club vs many-club approach? Do you run into issues with ladies feeling like you're holding out on them if you try to 'dance' with too many ladies?
[/QUOTE]SM,

Multi pop is really important for guys who can't go frequently. Since I live in Chicago, I get to Detroit between 1 and 4 times a year. I try to pop as many times as I can. The first brothel I went to was the all star harmony theater in New York City. It closed a long time ago. When the guy who brought me there said you could have sex with all of the girls I decided to try. I was 22 years old and of the 20 girls in the club I found 7 of them attractive and over the next 8 hours I popped with each one. In my 30's I almost always was a 3 pop guy. Today, I can stills sometimes do 3 pops, but I am reliably a 2 pop guy, and sometimes I only get 1 done.

I have never had a problem in the club. The basic reason most guys are there is to shoot out at least one load. The basic reasons the girls are there is to help or facilitate you shooting out your load. The good ones want to make it a good experience so you come back. Most guys leave the club shortly after shooting their load. If any guys stays more than 60 minutes, all the peelers know you want to pop again. Since most of the time there are limited to the numbers of guys and limited VIPs they can do in a night they are more than happy to be the second or the third girl. I often have girls say too bad I already went to the VIP as they would like to take me. I usually say your in luck I like to go more than once.

I understand if I lived in the Detroit I would be trying to maximize my experience and likely only go for 1 pop because I could go back the next day and pop again. But since I live in a city with out this wonderful option. I don't have money limiting me so I try to get off as many orgasms as I can while I am in Detroit.

Another tip is if I am in town for 1 or 2 weeks my first few nights after my second pop I still buy 1 dance or at least a drink for each spinner in the club. I find it makes them much more friendly when you return the later in the week.

The good peeler will suggest who else you should get dances from. I only had one peeler who said I should only dance with her. I told don't even start that BS with me. My fantasy is to try multiple girls and if she isn't ok with that, then we don't need to do anymore dances. She quickly became ok with it.

[QUOTE=LuvThePus;1941604]Just left Henry's South an hr ago around 5:30 on a Friday. Before I had even touched my beer The first girl stopped to give me a Henry Hand Shake. She was AA large tits not bad just not my thing. Then a 52 year old white woman stopped me on way to tip rail she offered extras right off the bat. I considered but told her I wanted to look around she was not bad for 52 honestly. Next another white girl maybe mid 30's stopped by to shake my hand also not to bad looking still offering extras want $ for BJ $.5. $$ for FS but said she could work with me on that based on how long it took. Well a pretty large breasted one was on stage that I liked. She came to see me after I got 1 to leave she did wait patiently for the girl to leave. We talked for a bit settled on .8 for BJ she wanted $ but said to make an offer she did not hesitate to accept my offer. It was covered but not really rushed when it was time I buried it all the way inside her throat with no problem at all not that I am hung but she took it all several times and let me control her head with out a problem. She lives close to me down in Toledo and offered up digits without my asking she said just call any time that we could work something out next time would have to be bare. Overall it was a good experience totally no bullshit everyone of the dancers that approached shook my hand and offered up extras. 1 1/2 hrs spent $.3 for drinks tips and drained and out the door heading home. I may call her some day if I need a good release. Hope I could work a good deal for FS maybe. Personally I have read a lot of negative about this club but I was impressed for the money and I am sure I could have saved some if I tried.[/QUOTE]LTP,

Thanks for the report. No disrespect meant.

I appreciated reading it, and this helps me understand that this in not a club that I would likely to be happy in.

[QUOTE=JulesJordan;1941787]I arrived at 9:30 there were 15 dancers (one 9, seven 8's, and the rest were 7's with a 30/70 colored to non colored ratio) with about 40 customers. Chapel (good looking curvy white brunette) was on stage when I arrived and she was flirting with me when I grabbed a seat by the stage. After I received my beer Britney (27 years old, white, blonde, Bcup tits, 5'7" and 110 lbs, gorgeous eyes, some body tats) approached me and we did some small talk. Britney (not the same dancer that worked at Bogarts) mentioned that she just started working at BT's two weeks ago and she is new to the extras scene, fresh talent can be appealing. After her stage set Chapel grabbed a seat at the bar and continued to flirt with me while I was talking with Britney. It was a tough decision but I decided to stick with Britney, I've seen Chapel at BT's before (I haven't been to the VIP with her yet) and I figured that she isn't going anywhere but new talent such as Britney come and go at BT's. We ended up agreeing on $.2 for half and half.

In the VIP Britney gave me a decent warm up dance, I sucked on her tits and fingered her. Next I picked her up and we made out then she geared me up and provided an average CBJ with some sacking licking. It was a tight fit in K9, she had me start off slow and after I started pounding her hard she asked me to slow down due to loud Clap Clap Clap noise. Her giner got soaking wet fast. We switched to CG and she took it in deep and rode it well until completion. Afterwards we chatted some more at the bar and she mentioned take out but I wasn't interested, Chapel appeared to have lost her interest in me.

Overall, Britney is a nice (a tad goofy) cute girl that provides solid action however it could have been alittle better but this may have been due to her inexperience. Chapel will have to stay on my to do list for now. My total time at the club was 90 minutes.[/QUOTE]JJ, thanks for the excellent report.

Britney sounds awesome. You are a lucky guy. I wish I would get a chance with her.

I like to read your reports so I know what is possible and that I can have my fantasies.

Although there is a slightly cruel side to reading them as I see all the fun I could be having but am not. All told I can take the bit of depression for the chance to read your report and be ready with knowledge when I finally get to Detroit.

Keep up the good work.

[QUOTE=FaucherFan;1942363]One good trip to Bts with the boys and you might never go trolling again.[/QUOTE]FF, I completely agree with you. I know we all like different things. We all have to consider different price points.

But if I was JW, one trip to BTs would get me away from the trolls.

[QUOTE=HornDogToo;1942425]They had a finale as I was leaving and another surprise of the evening is a new GILF named Bianca I think, on the side stage. [/QUOTE]HTD, I agree it is all about the looks.

And I guess technically a GILF could only be in her 30's.

I have no issue with MILF, especially teen MILFs. But I don't know if I am ready to consider the world of GILFs.

[QUOTE=Herodotus;1942661]You guys are very lucky, but in pray you don't go to another state for their clubs because it sounds like the experience is very different than yours. I'll be there visiting soon, I've got all of Michigan at my disposal, are there any clubs that are can't miss? I'm looking for a place I know to get extras and not for a ton of dough. Also, is every club on the same level regarding extras? It's incredible you do as well as you all do. Would mind describing the layout and scene at bogarts? Sounds like there is a VIP room, how much does that run? Is it just the tax? What's the room like inside? Thanks a ton for your patience, I'm hoping to "see" you all soon.[/QUOTE]Herod,

There are many clubs you can't miss.

Looking forward to reading your report.

[QUOTE=WillyWonka082;1942731]Me and a couple buddy's hit toy chest Saturday night about 11:00. Somewhere around 11:30 pm 20+ Cops rushed in. They hit the VIP areas first and hard and fast. One manager tried to give a warning but to slow. 100% of patrons / dancers in VIP area got ticketed for minimal of illegal contact. Any guys who had girls sitting on laps in main seating area were ticketed. My buddy had a girl with her leg draped over his knee and got an illegal contact ticket with pending court date. It appeared they checked dancers for I'd and dance cards. At least 2 girls were arrested, not sure if it was for prior warrants or something they got caught doing or had on them. It was a pretty crazy night and not enjoyable at all. Looks like new chief could really mean business.[/QUOTE]WW, thanks for reporting.

I don't get why they do this. Yes the police can come in and bust the club multiple times but I don't understand the objective.

If they bust the club enough times, it will go out of business. Just what Detroit needs is another vacant building.

Then the peelers are not all of a sudden going to become school teachers and nurse's because of this. They are not qualified for those jobs, and those jobs don't exist anyway.

Those who can will go to other clubs. Those who can't will go to back page and street walking. Now if you are trying to clean up a city would you rather have more street walkers and more back page girls or strip clubs.

Remember Strip clubs actually pay taxes, while BP and Street walkers don't. And if you drive more people into BP and street walkers you are making more work for the police. Don't you think Detroit police have enough to do.

In the strip club I am sure many of these girls have a drug habit but, they also buy clothes and food, and pay rent, and some of them have children or other people that they take care of. Even if there was another job in Detroit they could do which there isn't, they won't make enough to support their expenses. They are essentially taking workers and putting them on welfare.

Those who decide not to go to BP or street walking will likely turn to other forms or crime like stealing, shop lifting or robbing people. Remember we are not just talking about peelers, but bouncers, DJs, Food chefs, waitresses, car parking attendants. All these people have expenses that are covered by their jobs in the strip club. Again just what Detroit needs is more crime you take people who are not harming anyone and turn them into significant or possibly violent criminals.

Then why harass a local business that pays taxes. Detroit has a serious revenue problem. I travel a lot of places, in most cities I go out to dinner maybe a see a movie or go to a bar and have a few drinks. The strip clubs in Detroit are so good I almost never go to strip clubs elsewhere. I recently had a poor experience by Detroit standards in Washington Park Illinois. Anyway point being I usually spend between 20-50 dollars a night. When I hit the strip clubs in Detroit I spend 300-400 a night. This is money that gets cycled back into the local economy. Why make that go away.

If the real goal is to make the strip clubs go away the best way to do that is make Detroit a viable place to live and work again. It starts with getting rid of the crime. Focus on the robberies, murders, and drug dealing. If those elements went away the city has great land and people would come back and open businesses. The best way to get rid of a strip club is to have a Jimmie Johns or Scholztsky deli decide they need the real estate and buy out the club. Make the land so valuable that the owner wants to sell. And that there are job alternative for the workers beside running strip clubs.

What they are doing now seem to increase the work load on the police, increase the vacant land, reduce the money flowing into Detroit, taking working peelers and make them unemployed, and take paying customers and send them away. There is only 1 word for this. Stupid.

[QUOTE=TomTomMan;1942865]Got to love a Lovely Lady who knows her way around Junior, but WTF was up with, The Hair thing?

Most Lovely Ladies love having their Hair Tangled with.

Well, I guess we all have our Do Not's. ... LOL.[/QUOTE]TTM,

Part of my fantasy is taking my hands and running it thoroughly through her hair while she is sucking on my dick. The visual is becoming a serious element of a good BJ for me.

I have started down grading girls looks for wigs, and weaves. Even girls who hair spray there hair. It is hard and brittle and they don't like you touching it. Sometimes even a bad dye job is enough for me to knock her down a point or two in looks.

It should be soft supple luxurious hair. This is kind of a new development but I really like being able to touch and massage her head during the BJ. It seems many peeler like that as well.

[QUOTE=HeywoodJablomi;1943400]Thanks, Jd.

I respect a man who appreciates good fiction. I was initially drawn to this forum for its entertainment value and always hope to add some of that with my stories. I hope no one minds that they're just stories, that I like spinning yarns and have never written an honest word in these pages.[/QUOTE]Heywood, I am with you on this one. This is one of the most entertaining fiction sites on the whole internet. Like you mine are all carefully contrived fish stories. And believe it or not my Moby dick get larger with each telling.

[QUOTE=MisterSlate;1943475]Seems a bit like the situation before Stonewall when cops could raid gay bars with impunity and gay guys never pushed back about that nonsense united as a group. You never know when straight guys might stop acting ashamed and put a stop to this sort of thing too.[/QUOTE]MS,

It is a great idea, but it isn't ever going to happen.

Most of the guys in the club have far too much to loose and looking for a discreeter way to get some sex. Because like Chris Rock tells us there is no sex in the champagne room.

[QUOTE=Cash1315;1943913]I visited this club and was in a rare mood. So I sit down and ordered a beer for 8 with tip, door fee was 5. Looked around at the dancers and bar staff looking for familiar faces and only saw a few. It didn't look good for what I was after but here is the run down on the dancers. 6 white girls, one I'd rate a 7, the rest were 5's and 6's. 4 black girls, 2 were 8's or 9's, the other 2 were 5's. Only knew 1 of the dancers, Lisa, about 5'6" D cup bolt on's, very slender. She does not move well on stage but she is fun. Then I saw white dancer I rate a 7 was on stage and she caught my eye because she moved well and smiled like she was having fun. She also had a great set of 38 DD boobs, and she knew how to work them. After her set she disappeared for a while, then she came right to my table and introduced herself. Her name was Alina. She is attractive and friendly so we relaxed andtold stories, llaughing our asses off until she had to go up again. I was thinking that I could achieve my goal for today, which was an old fashioned fun strip club experience without the score keeping and what can I get for what. When she came back, we talked some more then without her asking, I asked if she would dance for me. She seemed suprised that I would ask her and not the other way around. I told her that it would be all about her. I don't think she understood what I meant, but she soon found out. I touched every part of her leaving out all the important parts until later. I was slow and soft and she was loving it. Then I moved onto her happy parts, I was just dying to get at her boobs. As soon as I touched her box she started going nuts and holy shit was she wet. I mean really wet. After a few minuets of this she was happy as hell and she moved to take care of my needs. I stopped her and gave her a nice massage and told her how much fun our dance was. Now I'm just weird or a genius because she gave my a look of pure lust and said I was in soooo much trouble next time we meet.

This type of encounter was exactly what I wanted so don't judge. Just understand that I left very happy today, but I pity the next girl I pick up.[/QUOTE]Cash13,

I think it is very cool that you did this. I have have a couple of buddies who have done similar things.

I have often thought about doing this myself. However each time I attempt it and I put my hands on girl that excites me the little head takes over and says suck me off. It repeats that phrase until she is down on her knees doing the head bob prayer.

I admire your self control and strive to be more like you in that way.

[QUOTE=TenderMan;1944581]
However, I carry a small LED with me (those suckers throw a lot of light in a dark VIP). Plus, its a good tool to have to check the floor and couch for items that may have fallen out of your pocket.[/QUOTE]TM,

This is great advise, I never thought to do that.

Where should I go to pick one of those up?

I think that is an essential piece of equipment for maximum peeler enjoyment.

[QUOTE=Samperkins420;1944677]I went to Bogart's about 11 pm the night after Thanksgiving & met the stunning Racquel. She's a gorgeous blonde with a perfect body that frankly doesn't fit in there at all, at least appearance wise.


made sure to tip Racquel $5. I'd say half the guys in there were tipping her, I've never seen someone get so many tips at that place. I made sure she noticed I gave her a five instead of a single and told her to come to my table.

While I was at my table I was approached by two different fat girls but told them I was waiting for Racquel, they both sighed & basically made me realize that when a super hottie is in there it's even harder for the cows to make money.

she is fucking beautiful. She didn't give me the H8 Handshake but didn't mind me rubbing her puss through the panties. After a few minutes she asked me for a dance & we went back.

She kept insisting that she doesn't do anything but eventually we both ended up naked & fucking. It was fantastic. She claims to be the EA to an exec at a local company and only works once every month or two to get extra cash, and usually makes it a holiday weekend like last one bc those are the best times to make $ IDK if that's true or if she's a regular girl there but I don't care, I had an amazing time & hopefully will see her again next time I'm in town. If she isn't there ever again, oh well, I had an amazing time with her for a buck fifty.[/QUOTE]SK420,

Truly excellent report, and you found the needle in the Haystack or the purple squirrel. I know it is this possibility of finding gems that makes it enticing to me to try this place. I know many guys can be happy with far less, but I think every guy wants what you just had.

You said yourself she has a perfect body and doesn't fit in here. You said yourself you never saw someone get so many tips. Well if more pefect girls worked there they would get tips. You confirmed there are many fat girls and cows in there. It makes me shudder and go soft thinking about them. Racquel is so beautiful she didn't need to do the handshake.

I think the EA Story is completely believable. I think you do know. She is not a regular girl, otherwise she would be talked about frequently.

I would have loved to had your experience but I don't think I ever will. Although your report got me hard, It also confirmed that I wouldn't be likely to be happy in that club. I need a place that has a higher chance of finding fantasy material, even though you clearly found a fantasy this time.

[QUOTE=HeywoodJablomi;1945426]Recently on dayshift I went to a club that'll be nameless for reasons soon revealed. I self-parked but paid the valet as usual, 7 plus tip. There were a couple of dudes at the bar, couple more at a table. Saw only a few girls. Maybe some were hiding in back? Busy in the VIP? I couldn't tell. I occupied a booth, which is free at this club.

A busty brunette shot girl, whose name I didn't catch, joined me in the booth, and we chit-chatted about the holidays while amazon blondie shook her nice ass and dee-cups on the main stage. Blondie came over after her set. We talked about physical regimen, recounted our past, and ended up going back for what was previously an off-menu item with her (BBBJCIM). Although a bit rushed, the technique was very good, and it really hit the spot. I might repeat, though she's not the best in this club in my experience so far (though I'm open to mind-changing experiences with this one). Damage was 80 plus a cheap bastard tip of 5. I'd have handed over a 10 gladly if one had presented itself in my pocket, but I only had the 5 and a 20, and I didn't want to get carried away. Plus, there's no guarantee of a tip. A peeler is not like a waitress. She's not delivering someone else's product primarily for a gratuity. She's a direct provider of a service for an agreed upon fee. Tipping is optional.

Does anyone give less than the agreed amount if the performance seems less than advertised? I'd like to hear some stories about that.

Rewind. As I was heading back I saw a recent favorite ebony dream girl take the stage. Damn. She was the best (in my totally made up experience). Wished I'd seen her earlier. Don't know where she'd been hiding. But at that point I'd made the deal with blondie and wasn't inclined to go through with the assholery of reneging.

Fast forward. On my way out the door, ebony dream girl says Hello,, and let's me know she's mad at me for telling tall tales about her online. It's probably a good thing I ran into blondie first. Ebony dream girl might not have been in the mood today. But I'm hoping she might be next time, once I've expunged the record of my foul lies about her.[/QUOTE]Heywood, another great post.

I think I know who you are talking about.

And nice job getting a previously off menu service. There is something very satisfying about a peeler telling you she won't do something and then having her do it in the future.

There is no guarantee of a tip. You are negotiating for a service. Many of the peelers work hard an provide outstanding service and earn a tip. I will often tip generously. However for average service there should be no tip. There should certainly be no tip if she requests a tip. That is when, the line we negotiated at the table comes in. Sometimes if I agree to high price I say the tip is already included, but if she is at reasonable price and her service exceeds my expectations I do tip.

As of underpaying it depends. If you negotiate for BJ and you get back there and after a few warm up she says she only wants to do HJ, then yes you pay less. But if she does the BJ and it is a bad BJ, or she rushes you, or tells you to cum fast or scrapes you with her teeth, then I pay the negotiated price.

I think being a peeler you end up dealing with a lot of assholes. Most guys myself included can be pretty big assholes, and peelers kind of develop a spider sense about assholes. So I try to be as small of an asshole as I am capable. As you know they frequently talk amongst themselves and if you are an asshole to one of them the others know and sometimes remember. Normally I think I am fair, but who knows what a peeler thinks.

[QUOTE=FaucherFan;1945589]I feel your pain!

Although I'm fairly new here I was a major player on several other boards (AE & Mi Elite)). I would post strip club experiences with lots of detail and numbers. Needless to say I was burned more than once and so were a couple buddies. Most guys on the boards are in "the band of brothers" but theres a few douche bags who don't know the guy code. There is nothing worse than having one of your ATF approach you and scold you for talking about her on line.

About 3-4 years ago someone sold me out with a stripper at Bts. When AE was a thriving board there was about 10-15 guys from the SC section that would hang out quite often and most nights there would always be 4-5 guys at a table at Bts. When I got sold out one of the Queen bee dancers (Noel) basically formed a union with the strippers and created what we called the "Faucher Block". They avoided my table like the Bubonic plague. So of course no one wanted to sit with me. It was a big joke for weeks. Things got back to normal soon enough but I wanted to kill the douchebag who sold me out.

My advise to you is limit what you say about girls who are your favorites and spend a lot of time with. If you put to much detail in the post the dancer can possibly connect the dots back to you. If its some random girl feel free to tell all. Chances are she will never remember you and if she does who cares you're never going to bang her again anyway.

It just sucks that some off these guys show these girls threads on their smart phones sometimes even in the bar. Ill never understand it. I'm just on the board because I LOVE the stories of fellow mongers and their experiences (good or bad). Just nice to know I'm not the only one with a new pussy addiction out there.
[/QUOTE]FF, good post and I appreciate you posts although I have a different view on some of it.

First I don't think there is a band of brothers or a guy code and believing in that can get you in trouble as you mention. I agree it is just dumb to show a girl her review on your cell phone. Guys are basically genetically programmed that when they are around an attractive girl they loose the ability to think, and all their blood goes into their penis. A guy with a hard on will do the dumbest things and do anything to impress a hot girl. Even if she is a sure thing peeler you are paying to pleasure you. Peelers know this and take advantage of it all the time to get guys to over pay and loan them money. We always preach about negotiate at the table because once you are in the VIP and she is rubbing your dick, your brain doesn't work. Just being in he strip club many guys brains are off already, and those of use whose brains are still on, we have to work and struggle to keep our brains on.

I laughed when I read about the Faucher block.

Good advise you gave to you is limit what you say about girls who are your favorites and spend a lot of time with. For me it doesn't make that much difference because I am lucky to go twice a year and when I go it seems there is almost always 100% turnover. I would love to repeat with some of my good ones but they are never working there anymore.

I only had one person recognize my posts and that was Luna from BTs. She did mention it as soon as she saw me. In her case, my post was largely complimentary. She did say that I didn't say enough good things about her and I quoted the price as too low. However I posted about that also. I did ask her if she wanted to still do a VIP with me and she said she did. I rewarded her with a facial.

I love what I have learned from RTFF and the advise others have given me. It made my experiences so much better, and I post because I appreciate the others who have posted and I would to pay it forward. I think if I lived in Detroit, I would be hesitant to post about the good ones in case other guys would start to monopolized them and I might even be tempted to post incorrectly about the a good one and say she is bad so other guys stay away. I have thought about that when I read one guy saying she is great and another says she sucks.

I suppose there are so many good ones that is doesn't matter although I am sure if I lived in Detroit I would post less information.

[QUOTE=TenderMan;1945802]This ad was on Craigslist today.

First time I've ever seen this kind of ad from a "peeler".

White men who love chocolate!!. W4 m (Bogarts.

Hey gentlemen.. Want to see something sexy and attractive all wrapped in 1? Cum see me tomorrow as I show off and wiggle my sexy ass for you... Cum support me as I audition.. Let me know what you think ... Want to see me wiggle my ass.. White me completely turn me on.. It's unexplainable..black female 36...26...44.. I get turned on from you watching me.. .

Location: Bogarts..[/QUOTE]TM,

This is an evolution in the industry. I like it using social media to increase her earnings. I expect we will see more of this and think it is a positive trend.

[QUOTE=TomTomMan;1951057]Some of those best deals happen close to closing.

Especially when the girls have not made their quota for the evening.

Got to Love a good deal, for sure.[/QUOTE]TTM,

Good advise here but, it sucks to stay up to closing time and then get up and go to work the next day.

For me, I would rather have a little less of good deal, and get two pops done and be sound asleep in my bed before Midnight.

I suppose If I didn't have to work, I would be right with you maximizing the deal in the golden hour before closing.

I am also reasonably selective so any peeler won't do for me, I need one that excites me and those girls might have made there money already and not be looking to cut a deal to make tip out.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;1951235]FF, good post and I appreciate you posts although I have a different view on some of it.

First I don't think there is a band of brothers or a guy code and believing in that can get you in trouble as you mention. I agree it is just dumb to show a girl her review on your cell phone. Guys are basically genetically programmed that when they are around an attractive girl they loose the ability to think, and all their blood goes into their penis. A guy with a hard on will do the dumbest things and do anything to impress a hot girl. Even if she is a sure thing peeler you are paying to pleasure you. Peelers know this and take advantage of it all the time to get guys to over pay and loan them money. We always preach about negotiate at the table because once you are in the VIP and she is rubbing your dick, your brain doesn't work. Just being in he strip club many guys brains are off already, and those of use whose brains are still on, we have to work and struggle to keep our brains on.

I laughed when I read about the Faucher block.

Good advise you gave to you is limit what you say about girls who are your favorites and spend a lot of time with. For me it doesn't make that much difference because I am lucky to go twice a year and when I go it seems there is almost always 100% turnover. I would love to repeat with some of my good ones but they are never working there anymore.

I only had one person recognize my posts and that was Luna from BTs. She did mention it as soon as she saw me. In her case, my post was largely complimentary. She did say that I didn't say enough good things about her and I quoted the price as too low. However I posted about that also. I did ask her if she wanted to still do a VIP with me and she said she did. I rewarded her with a facial.

I love what I have learned from RTFF and the advise others have given me. It made my experiences so much better, and I post because I appreciate the others who have posted and I would to pay it forward. I think if I lived in Detroit, I would be hesitant to post about the good ones in case other guys would start to monopolized them and I might even be tempted to post incorrectly about the a good one and say she is bad so other guys stay away. I have thought about that when I read one guy saying she is great and another says she sucks.

I suppose there are so many good ones that is doesn't matter although I am sure if I lived in Detroit I would post less information.[/QUOTE]Mex, You make a lot of good points how some guys brains are turned off soon as they enter the bar. Let me clarify a little more when I refer to having favorites. A few years ago there was a group of us that were at Bts several times a week so you can imagine how well you can get to know some of these girls. It would be very uncomfortable if they knew you talked about them on the internet in a negative way.

Drew93 a member here was part of that group. He would go on Strip Club benders sometimes and be there 7 days a week (true story). Actually I think his mail goes there and the manager set him up a little bed in the basement. Point being he made a lot of friends with some of those girls even though he still looked at them as strippers. So he has to be very careful about what he says since he drives a handful of them to work sometimes. His nickname of the group was "Driving Mrs Daisy".

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;1951159]TT, That is a reason to go to Coliseum. I have never seen a girl squirt except in videos. I would love to watch her gush. She sounds excellent to me, just the kind of body I like.

This if a fantasy of mine.[/QUOTE]I had a super squirter girlfriend back in the day. I'll never forget the first time I went down on her, in the back of my dad's station wagon. All of a sudden, without warning, her girl come starts spraying down my throat. At the time I didn't even know that was humanly possible. I liked that she was basically a nympho. But the squirting got old real fast.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;1951181]

Your new spunky afro caramel cutie, her name is Egypt.[/QUOTE]Nope, I know Egypt. This one is newer, shorter, less slender, lighter skinned, and more spunky / friendly than Egypt.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;1951183]Heywood,

I have seen guys doing push ups at work. I even commented to a co-worker about why don't they just go to a gym.

You finally explained it to me. I now understand what they do when they say they are at the gym.

I suddenly find myself with a new respect for the push up guy.[/QUOTE]That is so funny. You should call them out on it. Ask them whether they're having an affair, mongering, or both. If none of the above, then it's probably just douchebaggery.

[QUOTE=FaucherFan;1951521]Mex, You make a lot of good points how some guys brains are turned off soon as they enter the bar. Let me clarify a little more when I refer to having favorites. A few years ago there was a group of us that were at Bts several times a week so you can imagine how well you can get to know some of these girls. It would be very uncomfortable if they knew you talked about them on the internet in a negative way.

Drew93 a member here was part of that group. He would go on Strip Club benders sometimes and be there 7 days a week (true story). Actually I think his mail goes there and the manager set him up a little bed in the basement. Point being he made a lot of friends with some of those girls even though he still looked at them as strippers. So he has to be very careful about what he says since he drives a handful of them to work sometimes. His nickname of the group was "Driving Mrs Daisy".[/QUOTE]FF, Fair point you make.

[QUOTE=JohnWise;1951542]MM, FF said "trolling," as in driving around looking for pussy. Not "trolls," as in a nasty chick. One date with a real Gem and you won't step foot in a strip club for months. Not all SW are nasty zombies, just like all strippers aren't perfect 10's.[/QUOTE]JW, Good point. Sorry I was just have some fun. You are correct.

[QUOTE=HeywoodJablomi;1951774]I had a super squirter girlfriend back in the day. I'll never forget the first time I went down on her, in the back of my dad's station wagon. All of a sudden, without warning, her girl come starts spraying down my throat. At the time I didn't even know that was humanly possible. I liked that she was basically a nympho. But the squirting got old real fast.[/QUOTE]Heywood, I didn't think about it that way. The first time would be awesome fun, but I guess for the 100th time I might not be so fascinated with it.

[QUOTE=JohnWise;1951542]MM, FF said "trolling," as in driving around looking for pussy. Not "trolls," as in a nasty chick. One date with a real Gem and you won't step foot in a strip club for months. Not all SW are nasty zombies, just like all strippers aren't perfect 10's.[/QUOTE]Yeah I meant driving around looking for pussy. I know you don't like skanks.

[QUOTE=Plumber2;1951927]Has anyone heard when this place will open? It was going to be a Spearmint Rhino, but I guess things change. When they open I'll be spending a goodgood part of the day shift there if anyone wants to join a brother.[/QUOTE]I stopped in a couple of weeks ago and they said that they hope to be open by the end of the year. They were taking applications for all positions including dancers.