Tried to get into Oxygen today, but was told by Sunny (I think), that they were busy and I would have to come back in 30 minutes. I wasnt able to make it back.
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Tried to get into Oxygen today, but was told by Sunny (I think), that they were busy and I would have to come back in 30 minutes. I wasnt able to make it back.
Went by tonight and they were closed. Sign on the door states what types of massages they do and another sign says help wanted Licensed massage therapists.
So, not sure if they opened and were quickly shut down due to no lmt's or what the deal is.
[QUOTE=Sawsy]This is one I mentioned a while back, but it wasn't open at the time. Then on Friday I passed by and it seemed to be open, but I didn't notice it immediately and decided to come back later. When I went by there yesterday around 7 pm they were closed again. There was some kind of sign in small print on the door, but a bunch of people milling around outside at an art shop a few doors down, so I didn't get out of my car to see what it said.[/QUOTE]
Saw Kaydie today, very nice girl, a few more tat's then I like, but all in all a good visit, will probably return.
[QUOTE=Quenton]Just wondering if anyone has visited this young lady or has heard anything about her. She's been posting on bp for a few months now.
[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/BodyRubs/working-all-week-specially-sweet-southern-girl-will-rock-your-world-29/3781014[/url][/QUOTE]
Stopped by today looking for Jasmine but was told she no longer worked there. Had a girl named Cherry nice looking but small chest. Tried a little play but she said she was nervous. No play means no tip.
Anyone know were Jasmine went?
Most mongers fib about barebacking or keep it to themselves. I've kept this to myself for quite a while, but here it is. Back in the days of Tina and Yumi at Osaka, I had BBFSCIP with both of them [i]every single time I saw them[/i] except for the very first time with Tina. In fact, I usually saw them together and left a deposit in each, until Yumi left.
So, how did it start? On my first visit with Yumi, she started sucking my cock bare, and it was excellent. She asked if I wanted to fuck, and I said no. I told her I don't like condoms and that a blowjob is good enough for me. Now, Yumi has an exceptional ass for an Asian girl, and I wanted to see it, so I had her stand up and turn around for a bit while I jerked off looking at it. She started playing with her pussy at the same time, which was really hot. My plan was to have her finish me off with a blowjob, but instead, without even asking, she just sat down right on my cock and jammed it into her pussy. (I thought she was just trying to get closer to me so I could touch her ass.) She rode me for a while, and then we ended up doing doggy on the floor. I didn't think she'd let me cum in her pussy, but after a while she started saying "cum my pussy" over and over again. Who am I to tell a girl no? When I left, I thought, "Shit, I probably shouldn't have done that." But the next time I came back I found that I couldn't stop myself. Then I did a double with her and Tina, and Tina did pretty much the same thing without a word (well, except for "cum my pussy"). It was like an addiction. I found myself going [i]twice a week[/i] to "make my deposit" (as I called it) in these girls.
Once Osaka was shut down, I came to my senses and went and got tested for the usual stuff. I wasn't worried about HIV of course and I had no symptoms of anything, but I just wanted to be sure. All tests were completely negative.
While BBFS is not something I make a habit of (to say the least), would I do it again if the old Osaka came back and those girls were there? I don't think I'd be able to stop myself.
I just wanted to get that off my chest. Before you leap to criticize me, don't forget that criticizing someone's (un)safe sex practices is [url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/announcement-forumrules.php]against forum rules[/url]. Truth is, I don't actually mind. Say what you want. I knew the risks I was taking and I took them. I gambled and won. But Jackson might have a problem with it, so I'm just warning you in advance.
[QUOTE=Tampa Monger]Most mongers fib about barebacking or keep it to themselves. ...[/QUOTE]Wow!!! I guess that explains why when I happened to see Yumi on the street the other day she had a baby that looked so much like you. :) Seriously, there are other things to worry about besides just diseases.
However, I think you're right about guys fibbing about such matters. Whether others care to admit it or not, I think you are FAR from being the only monger ever to let the little head do the thinking and go bare. I'll admit similar things have happened to me. It usually starts where a provider just hops on one time before you know it and you just figure WTF, the damage is done, might as well go for it. Or sometimes a condom breaks or slips off in the heat of the action and what are you going to do at that point? Its not so easy for a guy to stop at such moments.
OTOH, I try to draw the line at CIP unless the girl specifically requests it and assures me she can't get pregnant or is taking some other form of birth control. Of course, women have been known to lie about such matters just like some men can lie about being "fixed" themselves. If I were to make a regular practice of popping inside, I'd probably get myself snipped to remove any worry about getting slapped with a paternity suit down the road.
As for the disease concern, if you're going to go bareback, about the only other things you can do are try to be selective about which providers you do such things with (crackwhore streetwalkers especially bad, one session a day upscale escorts not quite as bad) AND get yourself tested regularly, which is something anyone participating in this hobby should be doing anyway (btw, I had mine last week and came out clean again, woohoo!!). I'm happy to hear TM did that and came out okay. Hopefully the girls are doing that too, although you never know.
I'll also add that any provider that so casually hops on the dick of guy she barely knows, and especially if she lets him pop inside, has probably done the same thing with many many others, so guys need to be especially careful about that and if they've gone bare with other providers at least get themselves checked like TM had done. Not all STD's have readily apparent symptoms (e.g. HIV) so testing is the only way to know for sure and not spread something you may not know you have on to someone else.
I hope this didn't come off as lecturing because it wasn't intended that way. I'm NOT making any judgments on TM or anyone else because I'll also admit I've done similar things at times in this hobby. But it certainly does heighten the risk (along with the enjoyment and worry) so if anyone has done this (or is still doing it) I hope they at least do like TM and I have done and get themselves checked on a regular basis as long as they're continuing to do it.
Can anybody explain to me what BBBJ is "safe" and BBFS is not? I think if you have one, you may as well have the other.
I have the same dislike for condoms as Tampa Monger, and because of that, I too shy away from FS. A good BBBJ CIM will do it for me too. I very rarely have BBFS but for the life of me, I can't see the difference. Enlighten me if you can. Bill Ho
[QUOTE=Tampa Monger]Most mongers fib about barebacking or keep it to themselves. I've kept this to myself for quite a while, but here it is. Back in the days of Tina and Yumi at Osaka, I had BBFSCIP with both of them [i]every single time I saw them[/i] except for the very first time with Tina. In fact, I usually saw them together and left a deposit in each, until Yumi left.
So, how did it start? On my first visit with Yumi, she started sucking my cock bare, and it was excellent. She asked if I wanted to fuck, and I said no. I told her I don't like condoms and that a blowjob is good enough for me. Now, Yumi has an exceptional ass for an Asian girl, and I wanted to see it, so I had her stand up and turn around for a bit while I jerked off looking at it. She started playing with her pussy at the same time, which was really hot. My plan was to have her finish me off with a blowjob, but instead, without even asking, she just sat down right on my cock and jammed it into her pussy. (I thought she was just trying to get closer to me so I could touch her ass.) She rode me for a while, and then we ended up doing doggy on the floor. I didn't think she'd let me cum in her pussy, but after a while she started saying "cum my pussy" over and over again. Who am I to tell a girl no? When I left, I thought, "Shit, I probably shouldn't have done that." But the next time I came back I found that I couldn't stop myself. Then I did a double with her and Tina, and Tina did pretty much the same thing without a word (well, except for "cum my pussy"). It was like an addiction. I found myself going [i]twice a week[/i] to "make my deposit" (as I called it) in these girls.
Once Osaka was shut down, I came to my senses and went and got tested for the usual stuff. I wasn't worried about HIV of course and I had no symptoms of anything, but I just wanted to be sure. All tests were completely negative.
While BBFS is not something I make a habit of (to say the least), would I do it again if the old Osaka came back and those girls were there? I don't think I'd be able to stop myself.
I just wanted to get that off my chest. Before you leap to criticize me, don't forget that criticizing someone's (un)safe sex practices is [url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/announcement-forumrules.php]against forum rules[/url]. Truth is, I don't actually mind. Say what you want. I knew the risks I was taking and I took them. I gambled and won. But Jackson might have a problem with it, so I'm just warning you in advance.[/QUOTE]
Because Bill Clinton knows it. That is why he only let Monica do BBBJ for him than BBFS. LOL, Just kidding.
Scientifically, the pathogens causing STD, virus, bacteria and fungus are live creatures, I. E. They need specific environment to live, such as certain pH, temperature, and moisture and nutrients. The environments between mouth and pussy are very different. The latter is very acidic compared with the former. If you ever tasted the juice from the latter, you would understand what I am talking about, LOL.
Plus, the germ-killing agents, lysozyme and other antibodies contents exist in different rate between mouth and pussy.
That is why, HIV can be transmitted through intercourse, but not from oral contact.
Suggest you to read some microbiology textbook because it is important to your life and your hobby.
Xx
[QUOTE=Bill Ho]Can anybody explain to me what BBBJ is "safe" and BBFS is not? I think if you have one, you may as well have the other.
I have the same dislike for condoms as Tampa Monger, and because of that, I too shy away from FS. A good BBBJ CIM will do it for me too. I very rarely have BBFS but for the life of me, I can't see the difference. Enlighten me if you can. Bill Ho[/QUOTE]
Went to Osaka last Thurday. Had Kendi, nice looking small girl. Worst experience ever. TS was as bad as it gets, no cleaning of the important parts. Massage was uninspired, never touched the right spots. Had to almost beg for HE; that too was uninspired. I alwsays say never again, but if I'm in the mood and nearby, I go anyhow. Maybe this time will end it for good.
[QUOTE=Bill Ho]Can anybody explain to me what BBBJ is "safe" and BBFS is not? I think if you have one, you may as well have the other.
I have the same dislike for condoms as Tampa Monger, and because of that, I too shy away from FS. A good BBBJ CIM will do it for me too. I very rarely have BBFS but for the life of me, I can't see the difference. Enlighten me if you can. Bill Ho[/QUOTE]
The likelihood of either a man or a woman becoming infected with HIV as a result of RECEIVING oral sex is extremely low, as saliva does not contain infectious quantities of HIV.
[QUOTE=Xiao Xing]
HIV can be transmitted through intercourse, but not from oral contact.[/QUOTE]
*******
The Center for Disease Control disagrees with your statement!!
Can I get HIV from oral sex?
Yes, it is possible for either partner to become infected with HIV through performing or receiving oral sex, though it is a less common mode of transmission than other sexual behaviors (anal and vaginal sex). There have been a few cases of HIV transmission from performing oral sex on a person infected with HIV. While no one knows exactly what the degree of risk is, evidence suggests that the risk is less than that of unprotected anal or vaginal sex.
If the person performing oral sex has HIV, blood from their mouth may enter the body of the person receiving oral sex through
* the lining of the urethra (the opening at the tip of the penis);
* the lining of the vagina or cervix;
* the lining of the anus; or
* directly into the body through small cuts or open sores.
If the person receiving oral sex has HIV, their blood, semen (cum), pre-seminal fluid (pre-cum), or vaginal fluid may contain the virus. Cells lining the mouth of the person performing oral sex may allow HIV to enter their body.
The risk of HIV transmission increases
* if the person performing oral sex has cuts or sores around or in their mouth or throat;
* if the person receiving oral sex ejaculates in the mouth of the person performing oral sex; or
* if the person receiving oral sex has another sexually transmitted disease (STD).
Not having (abstaining from) sex is the most effective way to avoid HIV.
If you choose to perform oral sex, and your partner is male,
* use a latex condom on the penis; or
* if you or your partner is allergic to latex, plastic (polyurethane) condoms can be used.
Studies have shown that latex condoms are very effective, though not perfect, in preventing HIV transmission when used correctly and consistently. If either partner is allergic to latex, plastic (polyurethane) condoms for either the male or female can be used. For more information about latex condoms, see "Male Latex Condoms and Sexually Transmitted Diseases."
If you choose to have oral sex, and your partner is female,
* use a latex barrier (such as a natural rubber latex sheet, a dental dam, or a cut-open condom that makes a square) between your mouth and the vagina. A latex barrier such as a dental dam reduces the risk of blood or vaginal fluids entering your mouth. Plastic food wrap also can be used as a barrier.
If you choose to perform oral sex with either a male or female partner and this sex includes oral contact with your partners anus (analingus or rimming),
* use a latex barrier (such as a natural rubber latex sheet, a dental dam, or a cut-open condom that makes a square) between your mouth and the anus. Plastic food wrap also can be used as a barrier.
If you would like more information or have personal concerns, call CDC-INFO 24 Hours/Day at 1-800-CDC-INFO (232-4636), 1-888-232-6348 (TTY), in English, en Espaņol.
[url]http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/transmission.htm[/url]
TOFTT. Asian employees. Thought that might be a good sign. Turned out to be an absolutely piss-poor massage and no happy ending. I HATE going home with blue balls.
[url]http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/thp/1886995607.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Xiao Xing]
Plus, the germ-killing agents, lysozyme and other antibodies contents exist in different rate between mouth and pussy.
That is why, HIV can be transmitted through intercourse, but not from oral contact.
Suggest you to read some microbiology textbook because it is important to your life and your hobby.
Xx[/QUOTE]I am not sure where you are getting your information from, but you are so wrong. In the approx. 30 years that AIDS has been with us, every medical expert has stated that that the AIDS virus can be transmitted thru ALL sexual contact. NEVER once has anyone with any medical background said that oral sex was safe. The risk may be lower, but there is still a risk.
Years ago I worked with a guy who believed he could not get AIDS if he did not cum inside his partner. His reasoning: he said that when he was shooting his cum, in between spurts his dick went into a vacuum mode and it was at this point that he believed he was "sucking out" the womens bodily fluids. The sad part is I am sure he was not the only one who had this idea.
I've never understood why some mongers get their panties all in a bunch about someone else's risk-taking (or even lack of risk-taking). This is a hobby of calculated risks. Besides STDs, there's the risk of poor (or no) service, bad hygiene, arrest, robbery, violence, and so on. If you're comfortable with your level of risk, [b]what's it to you[/b] if someone else decides to take on more (or less)? Why do you care? Does it affect you in any way? No, it doesn't. So don't worry about it and don't bother criticizing it.
I think part of the problem comes from mongers who have no problem with condoms. They just cannot understand that some mongers cannot use condoms, and it isn't a simple thing. If I even see a condom, even in the wrapper, I'll lose my erection. I'm not going to spend years of psychotherapy or whatever it will take to change that. Therefore, if I want to engage in this hobby, I have to go with BBBJ. End of fucking story. It's that, or leave the hobby. A calculated risk. And how many BBBJs can you have before you want some pussy? To tell you the truth, I want pussy a whole lot all the time, but I probably get BBFS 1 - 3 times a year because of the worry and hassle it causes afterwards. I'd like to have it every day, to be honest.
There is still one AMP provider in Tampa Bay who is hot as hell and provides me with BBFS (no CIP) with no questions asked, even though it's rare that I do it. She does charge quite a bit for this service. I won't say who she is, but I will say that she's really a ray of sunshine on a cloudy day. :)
If anybody tell you that you have chance to hit on a highway by a truck, you would ignore it with a laugh. Because the probability is so low that everything body consider it is a non-event.
I would consider the probability to get AIDS as the similar to have a plane crash and lose your life. Just not going to happen to most people!
CDC is crappy when they over-state the birds flue to scare people to death. That was biggest scam in medical history stated by a EU leader, because it was taken advantage by big pharmaceutical company.
News Media like sensational stories to scare people too. When AIDS was discovered, catholic church claimed that is the punishment from God to those gay people. The catholic father told people not to have sex while they manipulate their own church members children.
A mature man should have ability to read news objectively and fairly with enough knowledge he accumulated from his life. Otherwise, you might at risk sometimes because modern life become more and more complicated for average people to handle.
xx
[QUOTE=Bushluver]*******
The Center for Disease Control disagrees with your statement!!
Can I get HIV from oral sex?
Yes, it is possible for either partner to become infected with HIV through performing or receiving oral sex, though it is a less common mode of transmission than other sexual behaviors (anal and vaginal sex). There have been a few cases of HIV transmission from performing oral sex on a person infected with HIV. While no one knows exactly what the degree of risk is, evidence suggests that the risk is less than that of unprotected anal or vaginal sex.
If the person performing oral sex has HIV, blood from their mouth may enter the body of the person receiving oral sex through
* the lining of the urethra (the opening at the tip of the penis);
* the lining of the vagina or cervix;
* the lining of the anus; or
* directly into the body through small cuts or open sores.
If the person receiving oral sex has HIV, their blood, semen (cum), pre-seminal fluid (pre-cum), or vaginal fluid may contain the virus. Cells lining the mouth of the person performing oral sex may allow HIV to enter their body.
The risk of HIV transmission increases
* if the person performing oral sex has cuts or sores around or in their mouth or throat;
* if the person receiving oral sex ejaculates in the mouth of the person performing oral sex; or
* if the person receiving oral sex has another sexually transmitted disease (STD).
Not having (abstaining from) sex is the most effective way to avoid HIV.
If you choose to perform oral sex, and your partner is male,
* use a latex condom on the penis; or
* if you or your partner is allergic to latex, plastic (polyurethane) condoms can be used.
Studies have shown that latex condoms are very effective, though not perfect, in preventing HIV transmission when used correctly and consistently. If either partner is allergic to latex, plastic (polyurethane) condoms for either the male or female can be used. For more information about latex condoms, see "Male Latex Condoms and Sexually Transmitted Diseases."
If you choose to have oral sex, and your partner is female,
* use a latex barrier (such as a natural rubber latex sheet, a dental dam, or a cut-open condom that makes a square) between your mouth and the vagina. A latex barrier such as a dental dam reduces the risk of blood or vaginal fluids entering your mouth. Plastic food wrap also can be used as a barrier.
If you choose to perform oral sex with either a male or female partner and this sex includes oral contact with your partners anus (analingus or rimming),
* use a latex barrier (such as a natural rubber latex sheet, a dental dam, or a cut-open condom that makes a square) between your mouth and the anus. Plastic food wrap also can be used as a barrier.
If you would like more information or have personal concerns, call CDC-INFO 24 Hours/Day at 1-800-CDC-INFO (232-4636), 1-888-232-6348 (TTY), in English, en Espaņol.
[url]http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/transmission.htm[/url][/QUOTE]