Casino girls

[QUOTE=JohnnyBoy14;2275809]It will be my first time in LV and decided to stay at riveria since is reasonable price. Is that right choices for CG? Just have thought the Wynn just next door maybe visit there and bring the girl back?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]It's really not "just next door" but more like a 15 minute walk. And they are wildly different places so the types and prices of CG's at each will vary. If you RTFF you will find that you may find CG's at Riviera and you may also (even more likely perhaps) find them at Wynn. Where the girls are changes by day and by hour. But, they are each going to want very different amounts most likely. And a Wynn CG may / may not want to cab over to the Riv (which she may see as slumming) when she could just stay there and catch a high roller. Better bet is to not stay at the remote Riv but at a more central place like Flamingo or Ballys which are also cheap but have access to far more places and girls.

same as always; LARGE black women all over. WHO PAYS THEM?!?!?! seriously, just go to club and get one for free.

anyone, nothing worth a crap at NYNY last night.

[QUOTE=Stevew;2277222]same as always; LARGE black women all over. WHO PAYS THEM?!?!?! seriously, just go to club and get one for free.

anyone, nothing worth a crap at NYNY last night.[/QUOTE]You should have went over to the MGM, they had a big event and the place was crazy. I sat and watched the providers do their thing. Always interesting to see who makes the first move and how. Lots of guys were worked up from all the pretty women at the event. Its kind of like the super pools during the summer, after a guy has been looking at flesh for 8 hours, he's primed.

I never could understand how these guys would go with the bbw's, but they do, to each their own. I like spinners, asian women spoiled me with that. I guess all the big black women went to NYNY, because they didn't stand a chance with the women walking around the MGM.

I parked over at the liquor store next to the Motel 6, its closed in the early AM. Lots of chicas going to the CoCo restaurant. I saw a lot of girls walking around, probably had headquarters at the Motel 6 and the travel lodge at the corner. I wasn't in the courting mood because I had been taken care of earlier, so I was enjoying the scenery, only in vegas!

Hey fellas, Last week I was back in your town. On business again. Tuesday night around 10 or 11, I went for a walk to see what might be out on the strip. It was still pretty early. There were a lot of tourist and I only saw one or two possible walking in the crowd. I couldn't seem to catch up to them. I made my way to New York New York. I spotted two very pretty gals sitting at the center bar, about 6 chairs from each other. One of the ladies made eye contact, smiled, and looked at the empty chair next to her. Inviting me with her eyes. She was just sitting there, sipping a glass of wine, and she had a very classy appearance. We made some small talk, then she introduced herself as Sasha.

This chick was smoking hot. Porn star hot. So we made conversation for about 15 minutes, never once did she lead the conversation to what I wanted. I almost thought maybe she was not a working gal. Then she began making suggestive comments and the conversation changed. Long story short, we finally had the conversation to the point where we were going to get a cab back to the Flamingo part of town. I hinted that I already have a regular gal that takes awesome care of things for 100, and would she be willing to be comparable. She smiled. You know that smile. The smile that says, negotiations are over. She fired back with, she doesn't do anything for less than 500. After a short amount of wasted energy, I finally got her down to 350. As fine as she was, I just couldn't come off of 350 for her. I just knew I would regret spending that much, once it was done. Buyers remorse. So we parted ways. And by now, the other gal that was at the same bar, was gone also. I played a bit at a table and then left as well.

On the way back, about 12:30 am or so, the scene had changed a bit. The crowd was thinning out. I saw several walking and a few that stopped me asking if I needed company. At around PH, I ran into the gal in the pics below. She introduced herself as Nina. Says she is 23. She insisted on me grabbing her ass to make sure I was not LEO, and she grabbed mu junk as well. As soon as she was comfortable, and we were walking, the negotiations began. I stared at my usual 100. She countered with 150, and she would do extras. I inquired about the extras. DFK, DATY, and pics.

So, back at the room, she got right out of the clothes. And sure enough, she made good on her promise of extras. DFK and DATY. Then it was her turn. She put the cover on and proceeded with CBJ. She had good skills. Could only take me about half way when I tried to get her to deep throat. But still good head. Once I was good and ready, I spun her around and hit it from the back side. She made some good noises. Grabbed her ass cheeks for me like I asked. In fact, she did everything I asked, except let me play with her back door. Back door is off limits. But either way, I took my time and finally got mine. I intensionally took my time and made it last as long as I could. It isn't everyday that I get to nail a cute little 23 year old, ya know. We got ourselves cleaned up, I got a few pics that she promised me, and then she was gone. She was nice and tight, cute little gal, great laid back personality, and in my price range. I called her up and had her again Thursday night with the same great service.

Hey guys. So they say that money can't buy happiness. Well, it sure can rent some fine tail. On Friday night I was out, walking back from MGM towards PH, about 2:30 am. I had done fairly well on the craps table. Which translates into, I didn't loose my ass and still had enough left over to get laid. Anyways, this cute little gal was walking my way. As soon as we made eye contact I smiled, she spun around and hooked her arm in with mine, and started walking with me. Said she was cold and needed someone to warm her up. Well, who am I not to offer a cute gal an arm of warmth. Monger Chivalry to the rescue. She introduced herself as Jasmin. Says she is 20, soon to be 21. She's cute, and probably only 5 foot tall and 100 pounds. After a few minutes of walking in the direction of my hotel, I got the negotiations started. I started with my usual line of, I have a regular gal who does an amazing job of taking care of me for 100, but she is not available tonight, and that's why I'm out by myself tonight. So anyways, she thought about my 100 offer and countered with "would you please be able to do 150", and I was feeling good from a few drinks (ok several drinks) and some fun at he tables, so I agreed.

I have found that if you create an environment where they might loose a deal to some other opportunity that you already have, they are more accepting to the idea of taking the offer. It's kinda like going to a car dealer and before he started, telling him that you already saw a better car, at the competitors lot, for less money. And that you have no problem leaving to go back there. It sets the stage where, they know that they have a ceiling on how much they can ask for, because you have a better offer. And gives you the ability to negotiate down from there. Anyone can do this, just give it a try. And besides, if she doesn't take the offer, there are plenty of others that will.

Back at the room, she was eager to get started. She said she could only stay for a half hour and that if I gave her more, she could stay longer. Nope, a half hour is all I need. So the clothes came off. She let me DATY. Damn she has a tiny little kitty. Smooth, flat, small, and easily excited. Next, she put the cover on me and then started with CBJ. When I asked to see how far she could take it, she took it pretty far. Obviously no gag reflex. In no time at all, I was good and ready. Misc. Style first, so I could see her face when I got in there. DAMN! Is all I can say. This chick is super tight. I had to work at it a bit, even all wet, to get all the way in. After a bit of that, and because I was getting close and needed an excuse to pull out for a second, I spun her around to hit it K-9. Again, tight as hell. She was making some pretty believable moans and noises. I reached around and played with those small tits and then the clit. It wasn't long and I popped. She looked at the clock and mentioned, you're good, we only had seven minutes left. We got cleaned up, I got a few pics, and then she left. I would definitely repeat next time I'm in town. Sweet gal, super tight. A bit of a clock watcher, though. Anyways, it was fun.

Great reports as always Sir Lancelot, I need to try your tactics for negotiation.

Two fantastic reports, with pics and with two very sexy looking women. I'm going to have to make it to Vegas soon!

[QUOTE=SirLancelot;2279321]Hey guys. So they say that money can't buy happiness. Well, it sure can rent some fine tail. On Friday night I was out, walking back from MGM towards PH, about 2:30 am. I had done fairly well on the craps table. Which translates into, I didn't loose my ass and still had enough left over to get laid. Anyways, this cute little gal was walking my way. As soon as we made eye contact I smiled, she spun around and hooked her arm in with mine, and started walking with me. Said she was cold and needed someone to warm her up. Well, who am I not to offer a cute gal an arm of warmth. Monger Chivalry to the rescue. She introduced herself as Jasmin. Says she is 20, soon to be 21. She's cute, and probably only 5 foot tall and 100 pounds. After a few minutes of walking in the direction of my hotel, I got the negotiations started. I started with my usual line of, I have a regular gal who does an amazing job of taking care of me for 100, but she is not available tonight, and that's why I'm out by myself tonight. So anyways, she thought about my 100 offer and countered with "would you please be able to do 150", and I was feeling good from a few drinks (ok several drinks) and some fun at he tables, so I agreed.

I have found that if you create an environment where they might loose a deal to some other opportunity that you already have, they are more accepting to the idea of taking the offer. It's kinda like going to a car dealer and before he started, telling him that you already saw a better car, at the competitors lot, for less money. And that you have no problem leaving to go back there. It sets the stage where, they know that they have a ceiling on how much they can ask for, because you have a better offer. And gives you the ability to negotiate down from there. Anyone can do this, just give it a try. And besides, if she doesn't take the offer, there are plenty of others that will.

Back at the room, she was eager to get started. She said she could only stay for a half hour and that if I gave her more, she could stay longer. Nope, a half hour is all I need. So the clothes came off. She let me DATY. Damn she has a tiny little kitty. Smooth, flat, small, and easily excited. Next, she put the cover on me and then started with CBJ. When I asked to see how far she could take it, she took it pretty far. Obviously no gag reflex. In no time at all, I was good and ready. Misc. Style first, so I could see her face when I got in there. DAMN! Is all I can say. This chick is super tight. I had to work at it a bit, even all wet, to get all the way in. After a bit of that, and because I was getting close and needed an excuse to pull out for a second, I spun her around to hit it K-9. Again, tight as hell. She was making some pretty believable moans and noises. I reached around and played with those small tits and then the clit. It wasn't long and I popped. She looked at the clock and mentioned, you're good, we only had seven minutes left. We got cleaned up, I got a few pics, and then she left. I would definitely repeat next time I'm in town. Sweet gal, super tight. A bit of a clock watcher, though. Anyways, it was fun.[/QUOTE]

Sir Lancelot just put on a clinic, and what prices! Just like buying a house. You have to be willing to walk away to get the market price. Good pics too.

[QUOTE=Stevew;2277222]same as always; LARGE black women all over. WHO PAYS THEM?!?!?! seriously, just go to club and get one for free.

anyone, nothing worth a crap at NYNY last night.[/QUOTE]I have been saying for years that they quality of CG's is following what we are willing to pay.

I am so disgusted with the quality of girls in Vegas, they are either heavy, ugly or their performance is terrible. Based off my reading of this board, I believe to many of us aren't willing to pay decently ($400), consequently the quality girls have gone elsewhere!

[QUOTE=Scott8691;2284030]I have been saying for years that they quality of CG's is following what we are willing to pay.

I am so disgusted with the quality of girls in Vegas, they are either heavy, ugly or their performance is terrible. Based off my reading of this board, I believe to many of us aren't willing to pay decently ($400), consequently the quality girls have gone elsewhere![/QUOTE]OR mongers like you continually overpay, inflating the egos of the really hot girls who would be within the $200 to $300 range anywhere else. Then the uggos see an opening and raise their prices to reflect such bumbling, self-important ignorance about pricing pussy. If you call $400 a "decent" price for a piece of ass, you're out of touch not only with contemporary mongering economics (especially since the recession is still being felt by most of us here in beautiful Las Vegas), but the valuation of the profession since its inception. Hell, do you think hookers in Victorian England were bringing in as much as wealthy merchants and aristocrats? Because I could tell you right now, paying a broad $400 an hour is sending her the message that her skills are as valuable to society as a neurosurgeon or a CEO of a large, tax-generating corporation.

Sorry for the late report. Was out a week ago during the latin grammys at the mgm. Aside from the bcg, hard to tell who else was working because of all the civilian talent dressed like hoes. LOL. Made my way over to ceasars around 11. Found a hot wcg sitting at the slots. Quoted me a price starting. Starting! At 500. After I stopped laughing she said she doesn't negotiate. Walked over to cosmo and found 3-4 bcg / lcg in the slots with their pimps a few games away. Over to ph and the shops by ph. White cg coming out of the parking garage. Get her a coffee at starbucks and discuss terms. 300 for BJ and 400 for sex. WTF! Unwilling to negotiate again. By this point I've been hunting for 3 hours total. Go into ph and find a 21 yo bcg, dsl, thin, former dancer at ld. Tell her I'm in for $$, no upsell, full menu, or I can go to my room alone. She agreed and took out all my frustrations on her. Some complaining when I bent her over and put her head in the cushions but otherwise took it like a champ. First good exp with a bcg in yrs.

I have lots of experience in the strip clubs and AMPs in Michigan but I'm anticipating a trip to Vegas after the first of the year so I've been reading the Casino Girl threads.

This forum is a fantastic resource and I have a pretty good idea of location, price point and some negotiation strategies. One thing that is notably absent in the CG thread is any discussion of risk of LEO stings. Is the risk so low that it does not merit discussion? Any suggestions on LEO warning signs and how to avoid stings?

[QUOTE=YoungHardJack;2284535]OR mongers like you continually overpay, inflating the egos of the really hot girls who would be within the $200 to $300 range anywhere else. Then the uggos see an opening and raise their prices to reflect such bumbling, self-important ignorance about pricing pussy. If you call $400 a "decent" price for a piece of ass, [b]you're out of touch not only with contemporary mongering economics (especially since the recession is still being felt by most of us here in beautiful Las Vegas), but the valuation of the profession since its inception. Hell, do you think hookers in Victorian England were bringing in as much as wealthy merchants and aristocrats? Because I could tell you right now, paying a broad $400 an hour is sending her the message that her skills are as valuable to society as a neurosurgeon or a CEO of a large, tax-generating corporation.[/b][/QUOTE]Let's stop meta-theorizing and return back to reality. People will pay what they pay.

[QUOTE=Electronman;2285082]I have lots of experience in the strip clubs and AMPs in Michigan but I'm anticipating a trip to Vegas after the first of the year so I've been reading the Casino Girl threads.

This forum is a fantastic resource and I have a pretty good idea of location, price point and some negotiation strategies. One thing that is notably absent in the CG thread is any discussion of risk of LEO stings. Is the risk so low that it does not merit discussion? Any suggestions on LEO warning signs and how to avoid stings?[/QUOTE]To me it's not much of a risk. I've always been a big believer in the idea that the Casino's do NOT want police inside arresting their patrons for solicitation. If they don't want that happening in the building they simply have security crack down and run off the CG's. Outside the Casino's is a different story.

That said there's still a chance something could happen. There have been a few stings including one recently where an off duty California cop got arrested.

The simplest solution is to do nothing illegal till you get to your room. A cop probably isn't going to get on an elevator with you, let alone go into your room. Many guys on here practice that and just don't negotiate till they're inside.

For me the risk is pretty low and not something I worry about much. That said.

I have good instincts and I trust them if something sounds off or I get a bad vibe. Never be afraid to walk away, no pussy is worth an arrest. Be mindful of who is watching and / or listening to your conversation. A cop will have other cops there to monitor her. An LE check never hurt anyone. If you're at a bar you might be able to ask for some info from the bartender especially if you tip generously.

Lastly, if you're really worried about it explore another avenue. Won't be fun if you're paranoid.

[QUOTE=YoungHardJack;2284535]OR mongers like you continually overpay, inflating the egos of the really hot girls who would be within the $200 to $300 range anywhere else. Because I could tell you right now, paying a broad $400 an hour is sending her the message that her skills are as valuable to society as a neurosurgeon or a CEO of a large, tax-generating corporation.[/QUOTE]These women will ask for what they think they can get and there's enough guys and enough cash out on the Strip that they can get away with it. You have to remember that most of the guys picking up CG's are not serious hobbyists, often they are drunk guys away from wife / girlfriend and have a pocket full of cash.

$200-300 is acceptable but $400 sends the wrong message?

Can the prices be a tad high for what you get in looks and quality? Yes, of course. That's part of the CG game.

Before you go do your research on an escort review site including this one. The oThER site is better for searching exactly what you are looking for. It's always fun to go out on the hunt for casino girls but don't get your expectations up based on the better reviews you can find on this thread. I'd bet most of the good reports on this thread are mostly fictitious. You can have an okay time and go through the motions of busting a nut. I think we can all agree casino girls are mostly about the thrill of the hunt but if you want a good sex experience, you're better off with a well reviewed escort. It's safer and a better value considering you are paying for sex.

[QUOTE=Electronman;2285082]I have lots of experience in the strip clubs and AMPs in Michigan but I'm anticipating a trip to Vegas after the first of the year so I've been reading the Casino Girl threads.

This forum is a fantastic resource and I have a pretty good idea of location, price point and some negotiation strategies. One thing that is notably absent in the CG thread is any discussion of risk of LEO stings. Is the risk so low that it does not merit discussion? Any suggestions on LEO warning signs and how to avoid stings?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GentleJester;2285184]To me it's not much of a risk. I've always been a big believer in the idea that the Casino's do NOT want police inside arresting their patrons for solicitation. If they don't want that happening in the building they simply have security crack down and run off the CG's. Outside the Casino's is a different story.

That said there's still a chance something could happen. There have been a few stings including one recently where an off duty California cop got arrested.

The simplest solution is to do nothing illegal till you get to your room. A cop probably isn't going to get on an elevator with you, let alone go into your room. Many guys on here practice that and just don't negotiate till they're inside.

For me the risk is pretty low and not something I worry about much. That said.

I have good instincts and I trust them if something sounds off or I get a bad vibe. Never be afraid to walk away, no pussy is worth an arrest. Be mindful of who is watching and / or listening to your conversation. A cop will have other cops there to monitor her. An LE check never hurt anyone. If you're at a bar you might be able to ask for some info from the bartender especially if you tip generously.

Lastly, if you're really worried about it explore another avenue. Won't be fun if you're paranoid.[/QUOTE]Good analysis and excellent advice. Thanks!!

[QUOTE=GentleJester;2285190]These women will ask for what they think they can get and there's enough guys and enough cash out on the Strip that they can get away with it. You have to remember that most of the guys picking up CG's are not serious hobbyists, often they are drunk guys away from wife / girlfriend and have a pocket full of cash.

$200-300 is acceptable but $400 sends the wrong message?

Can the prices be a tad high for what you get in looks and quality? Yes, of course. That's part of the CG game.[/QUOTE]I have learned that there is always some working girl out there that has a cheaper price.

Negotiating skills 101 include.

- Determining your "willing to pay" amount before you start. Do not go above that.

-Walk away. It works when I barter at the market in Jamaica and it works on the casino floor.

And if you get the "Who do you think I am" line then tell them. " we already know who you are, now we are just negotiating the price. ".

[QUOTE=Zappa3;2285405]Before you go do your research on an escort review site including this one. The oThER site is better for searching exactly what you are looking for. It's always fun to go out on the hunt for casino girls but don't get your expectations up based on the better reviews you can find on this thread. I'd bet most of the good reports on this thread are mostly fictitious. You can have an okay time and go through the motions of busting a nut. I think we can all agree casino girls are mostly about the thrill of the hunt but if you want a good sex experience, you're better off with a well reviewed escort. It's safer and a better value considering you are paying for sex.[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree. Forgot to mention that the upsell girl got offended with me on my last trip when she started high and I told her for the amount she was quoting I would just call an esc and leave nothing to chance. Get the menu upfront. This twit had the nerve to ask why does the esc deserve that amount and not her! Proves my point. The cg's working are divided into 2 classes, irrespective of age, ethnicity and looks (usually). First, you have the ones that are realistic, don't want trouble, and will service you fairly. Sometimes going above and beyond. They can be milfs or hotties. Second, you have the ones that are trouble, think theyre better looking than they are, unrealistic about how good they are, and I truly believe will upsell you no matter what amount you agree to. The best way I've found to deal with them is give them as little as possible thay theyll agree to and pound them into next week. As hard and as long as you can. So when they stagger out of the room all sweaty and used they'll be sore on the floor the rest of the night. With them this is definitely an adversarial sport.

[QUOTE=Electronman;2285082]I have lots of experience in the strip clubs and AMPs in Michigan but I'm anticipating a trip to Vegas after the first of the year so I've been reading the Casino Girl threads.

This forum is a fantastic resource and I have a pretty good idea of location, price point and some negotiation strategies. One thing that is notably absent in the CG thread is any discussion of risk of LEO stings. Is the risk so low that it does not merit discussion? Any suggestions on LEO warning signs and how to avoid stings?[/QUOTE]Electronman,

I have never had worries with LEO stings. Since most of us use our room (or a dedicated room) it would be difficult to get caught in a sting, usually the connection takes place on a casino floor where the casinos don't want the police making an arrest there. The money changes hands in your room where LEO doesn't know where that is until you bring it up.

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Met "Leeann" around 1 am Tuesday at Cleopatra's barge in Ceasar's. 4 for 60, daty, mis, dog, COT. Well worth the time and effort. Will repeat.

Supposed to work during the week. If you see her and like married MILF's she's great.

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Met "Leeann" around 1 am Tuesday at Cleopatra's barge in Ceasar's. 4 for 60, daty, mis, dog, COT. Well worth the time and effort. Will repeat.

Supposed to work during the week. If you see her and like married MILF's she's great.[/QUOTE]Nice photo! But she might be difficult to recognize in Ceasar's from that photo.

I'm fine with the acronyms but could "4 for 60" actually mean $400 for 60 minutes? Is that typical in Vegas? I realize that there will be geographic differences but that price point is well above the rates in other states-- of course Vegas is not know for value.

[QUOTE=Electronman;2289527]Nice photo! But she might be difficult to recognize in Ceasar's from that photo.

I'm fine with the acronyms but could "4 for 60" actually mean $400 for 60 minutes? Is that typical in Vegas? I realize that there will be geographic differences but that price point is well above the rates in other states-- of course Vegas is not know for value.[/QUOTE]Yes, I realize it's a little high, but she was very clean, and put together. It was full GFE, I was tired and couldn't neg to much. I typically pay around 3. 5, but I'm pretty picky.

[QUOTE=Robert710;2290326]Yes, I realize it's a little high, but she was very clean, and put together. It was full GFE, I was tired and couldn't neg to much. I typically pay around 3. 5, but I'm pretty picky.[/QUOTE]Looks to me like she would be very easy to identify just from the wedding ring on her finger.

Dammit you guys need to quit making reservations at hotels that are off the map and then post here wondering if some flea bitten hoe might wander in. Sheesh.

1. If you want to stay someplace cheap, stay at Excalibur.

2. If your boss or wife wants you to stay somewhere else, get yourself a room at Excalibur anyway.

Jesus how many fucking times.

[QUOTE=GatorsDen;2291419]Dammit you guys need to quit making reservations at hotels that are off the map and then post here wondering if some flea bitten hoe might wander in. Sheesh.

1. If you want to stay someplace cheap, stay at Excalibur.

2. If your boss or wife wants you to stay somewhere else, get yourself a room at Excalibur anyway.

Jesus how many fucking times.[/QUOTE]How much for a night there?

[QUOTE=Steve4100;2290376]Looks to me like she would be very easy to identify just from the wedding ring on her finger.[/QUOTE]Robert: Thanks for clarifying the price point. Sounds like you got a good return on your investment but its a bit higher than I'm typically willing to pay.

Steve: Good hint. I also notice that she has 10 fingers and a shaved pussy in the photo -- that should make it easy to spot her in Vegas (smile).

[QUOTE=CaptinCrunch;2291578]How much for a night there?[/QUOTE]I've seen rates at $18/ night during the week at flamingo. Plus it's close to the main action. Tons of SW all around.

Flamingo was $39 tonight, Excalibur Tower Queen Room $27.00

And to the posters commenting on my post, the ring was the thing!! Should be easy enough to find a MILF, put together professionally sexy, not hookerie, with a giant rock on!

[QUOTE=CaptinCrunch;2291578]How much for a night there?[/QUOTE]It's theoretically possible for it to go over $100 if every room on the strip is booked, but I am usually in for $35 or so. Got to book your room on the Internet because the price goes up at the desk.

For those who haven't been to vegas. MB, Luxor, Excal, MGM and NYNY are all connected via walkways. It's kind of hard not to find a chick somewhere in there, if you know how to spot them and go at the right time (RTF). Many girls circulate (so keep your eyes open when you're on the move) and even the ones who have their "spot" will come back to Excal with you. Reliably. I think that's part of the ho code of conduct down there. Prices are a tad lower on south strip; I've noticed prices tend to correlate with the room rent, so you will pay more at Wynn than at Excal, often for the same quality.

If you're in Vegas with family or co-workers and looking to get some snatch on the side, getting a cheap room at Excal is clearly the way to go. "I can't sleep. Going to go play some poker. See you guys in the morning. " That's all you got to say. (Which, incidentally, MGM does have a nice soft poker room, right across the street.). Even if you're on a business trip and you have your own room, it's still not a bad idea. These girls are nuts, it's kind of hard to sneak them into your room. They can be kind of loud. I've had them walk out in the hallway topless. Easy to get busted. Excal provides a truly valuable service to humankind, no doubt.

Mid strip is set up kind of the same way, it's easy to make the circuit between Flamingo, Planet Ho, Cosmo, Bellagio and Caesars'. My personal feeling is that the girls aren't quite as willing to schlep from one property to another. Good to post here before you go to get the lay of the land. Even Caesars' can be dry at times, although Bellagio is extremely consistent.

When I go by myself, and have some coin to drop, my three favorites are Bellagio, Wynn, and Hard Rock. I love Hard Rock but it can be dry during the week and it's off the beaten path, not the best place for your first Vegas trip. I have never been skunked at Bellagio or Wynn regardless of the economic or legal climate. The girls do get heat but if they dress conservatively and aren't too obnoxious they get to stay. That makes the hunt a bit more subtle, you will often find yourself questioning whether the girl is working or not. (But she is, otherwise why would she be talking to you? No offense of course.). (I like them this way. These are the oxy girls. Cocaine and meth girls are just too perky, too insane, too sociopathic. Ecstasy girls are fun. They will be young and dressed like clubbers. Extremely friendly. Perky but socially appropriate. Lots of fun. Watch out for the heroin addicts. They are dark, quiet. Full of death. They can be extremely sexy but dangerous. If something just doesn't seem quite right, it usually isn't)

I don't know about downtown, ask somebody else about that. Also I haven't stayed on the other side of the hghway (Palms, Rio) in years. As far as the strip is concerned, if you don't see the name of your hotel in this post, your luck will be hit-or-miss at best.

Here's the formula for a 100% guaranteed good time:
1. Book room at Wynn. Ask for the poker rate (yes, they welcome poker players. See how it's all starting to make sense?)
2. Shower. Dress in golf shirt and khaki's. No sport coat! Lock valuables in safe. Put some money in your pocket. Head down to the casino.
3. Buy in short at the 2/5 game and see if you can spike a set. Don't spend all your ho money.
4. About 11pm, go sit at the lobby bar up near the front entrance. Have a drink, chat up the bartender. If a girl sits next to you, talk to her.
5. After about an hour or so, if no action, walk across the casino floor to other lobby bar, I forget the name. Its over near La Reve. If you see a single girl sitting by herself, plop right down, put 20 in the video poker machine, and see what happens. You might have to make the first move. "Hi. Ya rich yet?" Something like that. If it turns out to be a civilian, no sweat. Just stay there until you get laid, basically. Easy peasy.

When I go by myself, and have some coin to drop, my three favorites are Bellagio, Wynn, and Hard Rock.

If you don't see the name of your hotel in this post, your luck will be hit-or-miss at best.

Hi GatorsDen or anybody that can advise.

Its 6 years since I was last in LV & am heading out there in the new year.

I normaly stay in the Venetian / Palazzo & my last expierance was when I was there for 2 nights & that I took home the HO money.

Now after reading GatorsDen report it explains why, but please can you explain why the Wynn is nextdoor & has CG activaty & not the V or P?

For those who haven't been to vegas. MB, Luxor, Excal, MGM and NYNY are all connected via walkways.

If you don't see the name of your hotel in this post, your luck will be hit-or-miss at best.

Hi GatorsDen or anybody that can advise.

Its 6 years since I was last in LV & am heading out there in the new year.

I normaly stay in the Venetian / Palazzo & my last expierance was when I was there for 2 nights & that I took home the HO money.

Now after reading GatorsDen report it explains why, but please can you explain why the Wynn is nextdoor & has CG activaty & not the V or P?

[QUOTE=BoneyM1970;2294173]For those who haven't been to vegas. MB, Luxor, Excal, MGM and NYNY are all connected via walkways.

If you don't see the name of your hotel in this post, your luck will be hit-or-miss at best.

Hi GatorsDen or anybody that can advise.

Its 6 years since I was last in LV & am heading out there in the new year.

I normaly stay in the Venetian / Palazzo & my last expierance was when I was there for 2 nights & that I took home the HO money.

Now after reading GatorsDen report it explains why, but please can you explain why the Wynn is nextdoor & has CG activaty & not the V or P?[/QUOTE]Depends on the management. They get tired of all the skanks and run them out. Especially if they are trying to promote a family atmosphere. Some places seem to have zero tolerance. Others like Bellagio or wynn are ok if the girls keep a low profile. I don't think hard rock gives a rats ass, they are trying to promote a wild atmosphere. The only problem is its a younger crowd there and the hoes prefer conventioneer types.

The venetian really does have a nice family atmosphere and its where I stay if I don't want to hear "hey baby, hey baby" all night.

I mean, you an find a hoe at Venetian. But you can theoretically find a hoe anywhere. I met one at a resort hotel across the street from Disney World once. But that's not where you go to find them, right?

I don't know how it is now, back when I used to stay at the Mirage they would go through cycles where they would kick all the hoes out. Then a few months later they would be back. Flamingo cycles like that also. There was a dry spell couple of years ago when only the Hard Rock and the Hilton (of all places) were hoe-friendly. I've seen Caesars' dry and I've seen it crawling with women. A lot also depends on the overall marketplace. Palms was sex central for a long time, with both civilians and pro's up for grabs. But it seems to me Palms has evolved into more of a locals casino and I gave up on it. (Maybe things are different now.).

The thing about south strip is, it's kind of unlikely that all of those properties will simultaneously go through some kind of Calvinist spasm. I hate south strip but it's a good bet.

But yeah Boney, on your budget Wynn / Encore is clearly the answer. Us old-timers think of the Wynn as a small room out in the middle of nowhere, but that's just not true anymore. With the Palazzo and that mall across the street, nowadays it feels like it's in the middle of everything. The rooms are fantastic for sex. Smoosh her up against that floor-to-ceiling windown and let 'er have it in the moonlight. Romance. Ain't it grand?

At any rate, aside from a few sure things, people need to read before they go, and post sightings while they are out there, even if you're not partaking. This forum isn't as active as it used to be, which is sad. People spend good money to go out to Vegas and they need good intel. So get your butt out there Boney, get yourself laid, and post your experience. We are counting on you son.

[QUOTE=Robert710;2291991]I've seen rates at $18/ night during the week at flamingo. Plus it's close to the main action. Tons of SW all around.

Flamingo was $39 tonight, Excalibur Tower Queen Room $27.00

And to the posters commenting on my post, the ring was the thing!! Should be easy enough to find a MILF, put together professionally sexy, not hookerie, with a giant rock on![/QUOTE]Anyone who visits Vegas regularly should get a casino card and get rated for all of your play. Focus on gambling at the place you want to stay. It doesn't take much to get room comps, especially if you win. Then rooms are not a problem. It works. I'll be staying at Golden Gate and Ballys next week and will report.

One of my favorite places to stay is Bellagio. My game is blackjack. I got the M life card for there and the other MGM Properties. I am not a big roller so I usually look for the $15 dollar tables. I give them my card and the pit boss comes over to look at the card and that's about it. One of the dealers there told me that they don't even care to tally your gambling unless you're at a $25 dollar per hand table or more. I can't afford to lose my money that fast. I am not sure if that's how it works everywhere. What really gets me is that you can hardly ever get a seat at a $15 dollar table at Bellagio but most of the times the higher dollar tables are mostly empty. I know the total rewards card (Flamingo) tallies all your expenditures and you get a discount for future trips. I just got it for early check in and perks like that.

[QUOTE=DarthPunter;2297763]Anyone who visits Vegas regularly should get a casino card and get rated for all of your play. Focus on gambling at the place you want to stay. It doesn't take much to get room comps, especially if you win. Then rooms are not a problem. It works. I'll be staying at Golden Gate and Ballys next week and will report.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zappa3;2299817] I give them my card and the pit boss comes over to look at the card and that's about it. One of the dealers there told me that they don't even care to tally your gambling unless you're at a $25 dollar per hand table or more.[/QUOTE]Yeah in general they won't rate you unless you're betting $25 a hand average. Treasure Island is an exception at $15 as are some downtown properties. Partly depends on the pit boss too. Never hurts to hand the card over, you might get on a lucky streak and up your bets.

[QUOTE=DarthPunter;2297763]Anyone who visits Vegas regularly should get a casino card and get rated for all of your play. Focus on gambling at the place you want to stay. It doesn't take much to get room comps, especially if you win. Then rooms are not a problem. It works. I'll be staying at Golden Gate and Ballys next week and will report.[/QUOTE]But then we aren't talking about going to Vegas cheaply. We are talking about having fun. You can have fun on the cheap in Vegas, but once pussy gets involved, nothing is cheap anymore.

Vegas is running on a different business model. The properties on "the list" get a ton of revenue from room rents and they aren't going to let that go as a loss leader. Sure, Riviera will comp you a room. But then you get to hang around a bunch of little old blue-haired ladies. (Not knocking it, if that's your thing.) If you play a "people game" like craps or poker, Bellagio will comp you into the buffet. Which, to be clear, is a great deal. I love the Buffet. But they aren't going to comp your room, unless you're rich enough to not need it.

Here's how it works. Average bet x EV x hours /2 = comp. So if you're betting $100/ hour with an EV of -2% and you play 20 hours, they will comp you 20 bucks. You get some wiggle room on the buffet because their marginal cost is something like two bucks. These guys are MBA's not mobsters.

Beyond that, who's griping about paying $240 for a plush property like Bellagio or Wynn? Try finding a place that nice, that fun, for that price in Chicago or New York.

I think the only "angle" here is the Flamingo, for some reason they will sometimes let their rooms go for nothing. It's a really nice property (a real carpet joint!) in a great location and there are usually (not always, but usually) some wacky girls hanging around. Otherwise there is no angle. If you're on a budget, Excal. If not, Wynn or Bellagio. This is not complicated.

And, don't stay at the Golden Gate. Have some pride, man.

All I can say is if your going to stay at the Golden Gate you better bring your gas mask!

[QUOTE=GatorsDen;2300226]But then we aren't talking about going to Vegas cheaply. We are talking about having fun. You can have fun on the cheap in Vegas, but once pussy gets involved, nothing is cheap anymore.

Vegas is running on a different business model. The properties on "the list" get a ton of revenue from room rents and they aren't going to let that go as a loss leader. Sure, Riviera will comp you a room. But then you get to hang around a bunch of little old blue-haired ladies. (Not knocking it, if that's your thing.) If you play a "people game" like craps or poker, Bellagio will comp you into the buffet. Which, to be clear, is a great deal. I love the Buffet. But they aren't going to comp your room, unless you're rich enough to not need it.

Here's how it works. Average bet x EV x hours /2 = comp. So if you're betting $100/ hour with an EV of -2% and you play 20 hours, they will comp you 20 bucks. You get some wiggle room on the buffet because their marginal cost is something like two bucks. These guys are MBA's not mobsters.

Beyond that, who's griping about paying $240 for a plush property like Bellagio or Wynn? Try finding a place that nice, that fun, for that price in Chicago or New York.

I think the only "angle" here is the Flamingo, for some reason they will sometimes let their rooms go for nothing. It's a really nice property (a real carpet joint!) in a great location and there are usually (not always, but usually) some wacky girls hanging around. Otherwise there is no angle. If you're on a budget, Excal. If not, Wynn or Bellagio. This is not complicated.

And, don't stay at the Golden Gate. Have some pride, man.[/QUOTE]I have the Caesar's rewards card which covers Caesar's, Harrahs, Linq, Flamingo, Bally's, Paris, and PH. I don't play allot by LV standards. Just video poker and slots. Over 3 days about $300 out of my pocket equals about $4000 played through. Don't get much in casino credits (food / drink) BUT I always get 2-3 days free room at Flamingo, Harrahs, Linq or Bally's and good discount if I want Caesars, Paris or PH. Mid week, no weekends. I only go for that 3 days once a year. Was there this past November at the Flamingo and got 3 nights, $50 game play, $25 food / drinks, all for $0 (except tax and the stupid resort fee.) I get theses offers all the time and could book almost every month all year if I wanted.

[QUOTE=GatorsDen;2300226]
And, don't stay at the Golden Gate. Have some pride, man.[/QUOTE]I can understand that reaction. It ain't for everyone. I like the atmosphere, dancing girls, and the $5, 10 x craps odds. I'll be attending a Naughty Santa contest on there Saturday. They initially lured me in with a free suite. They still give me a nice room. I've stayed at the Nugget and Main Street (another great crap game). I have some interest in the Grand. I like variety when I go to Vegas. I like to turn over rocks. Gritty downtown. Middle of the road Bally's, Caesars. I try to stay at Wynn once a year and get a decent deal. Red Rocks is awesome. Different hunting opportunities. Pool dates with established girls. I'm tentatively planning on a casino girl downtown and a regular escort on the strip.