Blacks Beach is Mostly About Nudity
If the guys were concerned that Thads had no guarantees and feel it is hit or miss, Blacks Beach is very hit or miss. You might see things but that doesn't mean you will be invited to join.
Go if you want to get naked in the sun, I wouldn't go if you're expecting to get some sexual fun. Of course the more you go, the better your chances are, but it not a good gamble unless you're mostly a voyeur. Even then the scenery can be hit or miss.
[QUOTE=NudeBeachPerv;6955263]Here's a BB clip.
[URL]https://www.redgifs.com/watch/recklesssecretsanderling[/URL]
Sometimes you see fun stuff like that.[/QUOTE]
One Way to Battle Hoe-Flation
It's easy to see why the FS "cock-stars" at half-hour FS Spas are raising their rates. It is because they can, and guys pay. We show up for the half hour boom boom session, and off we go. It's also true that many mongers want to tear that pussy up, so they are charging you for damages in advance.
My efforts have gotten FS from providers at typically less than the going rate of the FS Spas. Definitely less than agency or independent rates mentioned in the forums.
Just go to the regular HJ spas. Always get an hour massage. When you have attraction and chemistry with a provider, visit often, and move her up to FS. Some might give in right away, most are very slow and careful about it, some don't move up, and if they don't, move on. Some you'll have to undress, some will bare it for you. I can't tell you how many I've gotten to know well, and after a good connection was established, I simply gently pull their pants and panties down, even removed them completely, and they let me. It is a very interesting passive, I won't stop you, response. Yes, I do enjoy submissive women. I will then show them a condom, and ask for sex, and they'll either indicate it is okay, or not.
It usually takes a little time and money of course, but in the long run can be cost effective. And it all depend if you're willing to explore boundaries for sex, or just want to show up and fuck.
But once you get one to cross that line for you, they generally don't expect gigantic tips, or even the going FS rates at a half hour Spa. Its is good to improve their tip once they cross the line, but unless you're over tipping you have room to up it and still not break the bank.
Bear in mind. That getting a Massage girl / woman in a non FS Spa to give FS may not be a GFE, or PSE experience but the sex is still fun. I'm into connecting and I like fucking the same woman many times. And since I always get an hour session with a massage, if I only get a good massage I can be content. Of course I'm striving to get more and if I get more all the better.
Once I find my FS favorites I visit them regularly, until they move, or I just get bored and move on myself, seeking my next FS favorite.
I think they do the FS for less for several reasons. They usually seem to feel you're there for a massage, and that makes the massage what they provide where sex is just an extra effort on their part. They see the massage as their product first, not the sex. FS women know you're there for sex and sex is what they provide, any massage is there as an extra effort we all know most suck at it. Besides a half hour is just enough for a good fuck, not a good massage, and definitely not a good massage and good fuck. Once you move your regular up, its usually a 40 minute good massage, 20 minutes play, and if you don't use the full 20 minutes, they will get dressed and massage you more until your hour is up.
FS fuck girls get you to pop and often enough want you to leave, no matter how much time is left on the clock. This is because a lot of guys get off and want to go anyway. It's also because they can get to the next customer faster.
The one hour massage girls wants you to come back, and are willing to give the extra to keep you happy so you will come back. FS girls know you came to fuck and usually know they will never see you again, so they need to get all the money they can in one session.
The Massage providers may also know they're not 20 something, and have to compete with 20's somethings and the 20 somethings who provide FS.
And since the process of getting a Massage girl to move up to FS, is in part of your charm, the connection, repeat business, and even your tips, they may actually like you, and be attracted to you to some degree. I've felt many of them orgasm. You know the twitching, quivering, sweating orgasms, so I know they enjoyed the sex, not the noisy, fuck me fuck me orgasms FS provider offer, . Maybe it's my imagination, or ego, but I think some want a cock to fuck, and I'm eager to offer one they can feel safe with. Even in non-FS spas where you have to be quiet and careful. A lot do the "shhhhhh" thing, with their fingers over their lips like quiet, or don't tell, as the action starts. I respect that.
Some will get naked, some just will move clothes out of the way. And I'll say, they may not be 20 something spinners, or give a GFE or PSE, or even be a Cock-star, but they can be attractive and the sex and be satisfying.
Just one way I found to enjoy this hobby, but of course YMMV, and it all depends on what you're looking for.
Fake is Unattractive To Me
Guy456, I agree with all you say about the enhancements women are doing these days. I basically don't like anything fake or over the top. Botox injections are the most bizarre as it is a toxin women inject in themselves, usually in their face. And to what? Remove wrinkles, or worse to puff up their lips to look like they have been punched in a fight?
Many guys like man made bolt on tits and if that is your thing good for you, but I like natural breasts. All sizes welcome. Interesting though, I've been with providers with very nice size b-c natural tits who say they are small, and seem to apologize. I'm like what? They are perfect. A nice natural hand full, is a good thing. I've also been with providers with less than A size and the sex was amazing. But again, this is my thing.
Lastly about fake. The "performance" some provider give during the sex can be a turn off. I like it when she is enjoying the sex, but the fake over the top, you are the best fuck ever, oh god your dick is amazing performances don't work for me. I've even stopped them and said, you don't need to do that for me. If they are not genuinely enjoying the sex, and maybe have an orgasm, I'd prefer they remain quiet and let me enjoy myself. This is one of the reasons I like to seduce a provider at a HJ only spa up to full service, than go to a FS spa where the girls are in fuck factories.
We all monger in our own way and like the women we like, but on this topic of enhancements, I agree with Guy456. Good luck, Bonn Appetite, and be safe.
[QUOTE=Guy456;7071121]I'm really unattracted to a lot of the things women are doing to themselves recently. I can't stand the big, ugly, eyelashes, fake color contacts, ugly tattoos, lip injections, and especially the enhanced ass cheeks. You can tell if women have butt implants by the little incisions under their cheeks. Those fake cheeks may look good in pants and sometimes naked, but I prefer natural, even it's shaped like a pancake.[/QUOTE]
Rolling the Dice With the New Girls
Had a disappointing experience the other day, and since there had been posts about providers not fulfilling our expectations I though I'd post about it, but I know it won't be much help because this will simply be my impression. And upon reflection, I had to re-evaluate my opinion of my experience.
I don't do FS spas much, but a few have proven worth my time and treasure, and I visit them when in the mood.
One of my regular spots has consistently provided significantly fun talent, so I never fear rolling the dice when I go there. They do have a steady rotation but I had not been surprised until the other day. Called, heard a familiar voice, said I'm coming in, and got the okay "I'm waiting for you" answer. Greeted by a pretty face. A new girl on the tall side, thin, pretty enough, dressed in her keep warm outfit.
She leads me to room. Gets one hour house fee. I see on the cameras another mongers comes, gets escorted to a room. She returns in her cute Fuck me skirt and school girl blouse.
We hear another monger walk in. She leaves, greets him and he leaves. This happed one more time during my short massage. I amazed how busy it is on a weekday mooring. Ah the holidays. Like me reduced work schedule allows for more mongering.
Her massage is just light touching, some rubbing, some squeezing. I try to get her her name, but even with her saying it three times, I still don't have it. She speaks very little English. The rubbing ends at about 10 minutes. No teasing at all. She beckons me to flip without wiping off the oil, but I go with it. She's right in to the boom boom gesture and pushes for the money now.
As I mentioned I come here enough to know I have to be careful about tips and being consistent to avoid any drama. I give her the standard and she goes 180! I'm say no. She leaves comes back with the fuck kit.
The massage was short and weak. She further reduces my pleasure factor by being reluctant to take off her top and bra. And she wants to pull up the skirt like a tutu. I don't about you, but in a FS place I want them naked. Not a sneaky access fuck like in a Non-FS spa, a SW, or a QV from on Escort. I insist on her being naked, she complies but does so reluctantly even shyly.
No BJ what so ever, no kissing (which is good in this case), she get down puts on condom. She pretty enough, skin is soft enough, so I go in first with her bent over first standing doggie. She a limp fuck doll. Just a soft wet, tight available hole. Nothing to make her stand out other than feeling good on the Bishop.
Put her on back, and did the usual standing mish. She's just enough, so there is still has some fun factor going on. While on her back she starts to cough and hack like she's got a cold. She coughs up an oyster or two and spits onto a tissue she was holding. Great, she's sick. How fucking nice. Thank god I'm not a kisser. During the fucking she's basically a pillow princess. She was enough to get and keep me hard, so I fuck her till I'm ready and cum. Nice looking trimmed pussy.
I pull out, she jumps up, hands me tissues to take care of the condom my self, while she rushes to dress. She leaves and comes back with a hot towel, wipes down the Bishop and the Cardinals, and goes back out. I lie down seeing there is still time on the clock and expecting the end of fuck frontal massage completely forgetting her weak back massage. A few minutes later she comes in, "finish" she says.
Time to go, I dress, see her at front. No offer of water. Try to get her name again but fail.
The reason I'm not being more helpful with the her name, which as I said, I'm not sure of, or the Spa's name is that I think I got a real new girl. Not just a new girl to his Spa, but a new girl to the whole business and she at the new girl point where she lacks experience.
The more I thought about it, it wasn't deliberate poor service, it was inexperience.
She had zero massage training. No teasing, no kissing, no gestures of connection. She was shy, even reluctant to be fully naked. And during the sex she was a fuck doll, and when on her back made no eye contact as I pumped her, always keeping her head to the side, usually at the monitors. (hey guys, I'm not THAT old and ugly yet) And then when done, dressed quickly and didn't know what should come next.
I think she is just new and inexperienced. In a way I think I like the idea of breaking in the "new girls".
On the good side, she was pretty IMO, her pussy was wet and tight, and she allowed me to put her in any position I wanted and fuck her as long as I wanted, never trying to stop or rush my fun. She made her body available to my wishes. I really think I got to help break in the new talent. I don't know her background or how long she's been in the States, or in the business, but I sill think her less that stellar performance was in part her newness. The other part may have been the cold she seemed to have. Don't know about you, but not many people want to fuck when feeing sick.
But if she was "sick" she should have removed herself from rotation, but there is no telling what pressure she is under to perform and make money.
Even though I have expectations I still try to understand what these women may be going through. Maybe that makes me a Softie, but I've had a great deal of rewards for my efforts to understand them and being compassionate about what they may be going through.
I'm guessing she's fresh off the boat, and new to the whole business of servicing men sexually for a living. With that in mind, I'm going to cut her a whole lot of slack at this point. It will be interesting what she will be like, in six months. I may go find out. Roll the Dice again.
