Printable View
Found WSW Marie again. Had not seen her since she was jailed last Fall. Old leather face but hot petite body. She says she is 45 but her face has her looking older but her firm body looks 30. Her hair is shorter, around the shoulders and brownish color. Would not allow pictures but now allows cim. Found her walking to the Oakwood section. Marie is one of the few who is not on drugs. No non-sense date. Will repeat
I really don't want to start a flame war, but from time to time you have to kick a little ass to remind people of the rules around here, especially noobs.
If you look at Danny Danny's posts, he has gained senior member status largely through padding the post count by asking questions. And while I don't know this for certain, the few posts where he is giving information, the posts are VERY general without specifics. Now he's asking again and Joe Looking was kind enough to give some guidance, but probably not the specifics he was looking for.
Typically, I just ignore noobs and don't let them bother me, but this instance has me riled up because Danny Danny apparently lacks reading comprehension. When I reviewed Charlene last week, my post specifically said "trusted seniors only" to PM me for the info, and I even nicely said, save us both the hassle if you aren't a senior member. So guess who PMs me asking for the info? Yup, Danny Danny.
That's fine, I gave a snarky reply, figuring to be done with him, but wait, there's more! Then THIS WEEK, he gets senior status with his post padding, and sends me ANOTHER PM, again asking about Charlene, like I'm going to say."Oh, well you're a senior now, here ya go!"
This obvious noob trolling is the example that needs to be called out of what NOT to do. I probably post this once a year or so, and now it's time again. Specific information about SWs is the coin of the realm on this board. And you have to GIVE a lot to get a little. You have to go out there and learn through trial and error just like those of us who are known posters did. We EARNED our credibility and you must do the same. Why should you gain from all of our hard work without doing it yourself?
The concept really doesn't seem that hard. All are welcome to this party and the more people who post the better our intel will be. But we can't have freeloaders. And as an example of what a noob SHOULD do, I would like to point out the PM I got from a nameless and postless noob who asked if he could ride with me on a cruise sometime.
While I of course said no, for a variety of reasons, his message was earnest, humble and detailed. He showed that while he's not a senior member, he really wants to learn. So you know what I did for that kid? I sent him the general instructions on where the tracks are and how to make the pickup, process related stuff. I didn't tell him where Charlene lives, or any other known providers, I just told him how to go hunting. I didn't mind one bit because he wanted to know HOW to do this, not "You can find Charlene on the corner of X and Y on Wednesday at 10."
If my rant offends anyone, that's too bad. Noobs let this sermon be a lesson to you. You're going to find nothing but goodwill on this board if you pursue the hobby and report back about your adventures. And the more you do that, the more information you'll get. If you're not going to do that, please save us all the trouble and annoyance of trolling.
[QUOTE=Robert1744; 1188159]I really don't want to start a flame war, but from time to time you have to kick a little ass to remind people of the rules around here, especially noobs.
If you look at Danny Danny's posts, he has gained senior member status largely through padding the post count by asking questions. And while I don't know this for certain, the few posts where he is giving information, the posts are VERY general without specifics. Now he's asking again and Joe Looking was kind enough to give some guidance, but probably not the specifics he was looking for.
Typically, I just ignore noobs and don't let them bother me, but this instance has me riled up because Danny Danny apparently lacks reading comprehension. When I reviewed Charlene last week, my post specifically said "trusted seniors only" to PM me for the info, and I even nicely said, save us both the hassle if you aren't a senior member. So guess who PMs me asking for the info? Yup, Danny Danny.
That's fine, I gave a snarky reply, figuring to be done with him, but wait, there's more! Then THIS WEEK, he gets senior status with his post padding, and sends me ANOTHER PM, again asking about Charlene, like I'm going to say."Oh, well you're a senior now, here ya go!"
This obvious noob trolling is the example that needs to be called out of what NOT to do. I probably post this once a year or so, and now it's time again. Specific information about SWs is the coin of the realm on this board. And you have to GIVE a lot to get a little. You have to go out there and learn through trial and error just like those of us who are known posters did. We EARNED our credibility and you must do the same. Why should you gain from all of our hard work without doing it yourself?
The concept really doesn't seem that hard. All are welcome to this party and the more people who post the better our intel will be. But we can't have freeloaders. And as an example of what a noob SHOULD do, I would like to point out the PM I got from a nameless and postless noob who asked if he could ride with me on a cruise sometime.
While I of course said no, for a variety of reasons, his message was earnest, humble and detailed. He showed that while he's not a senior member, he really wants to learn. So you know what I did for that kid? I sent him the general instructions on where the tracks are and how to make the pickup, process related stuff. I didn't tell him where Charlene lives, or any other known providers, I just told him how to go hunting. I didn't mind one bit because he wanted to know HOW to do this, not "You can find Charlene on the corner of X and Y on Wednesday at 10."
If my rant offends anyone, that's too bad. Noobs let this sermon be a lesson to you. You're going to find nothing but goodwill on this board if you pursue the hobby and report back about your adventures. And the more you do that, the more information you'll get. If you're not going to do that, please save us all the trouble and annoyance of trolling. [/QUOTE]Danny Danny had send me a private email wanting to know my route. I basically told him to drive around the block. Then he sends me another message about how to ask a girl out at the bus stop. At that point, I start thinking Danny Danny is a cop. I am in total agreement with Robert
Firstly, I am not a cop.
I guess it is always a difficulties to step into a new social circle when you are a newbie.
Newbie is new. And they of cox want to gain more experience to enjoy the new hobby. I understand I am a little greedy in asking too many question.
I also gave "real" comment and advice in the board.
Sorry to make you guys feel uncomfortable.
Then you're a moron."Firstly"?
After exchanging a few PMs with fellow veteran mongers, we're going to let the board mod Jackson in on this stuff and he can decide what action to take. Until then, if you choose to share info with Danny Danny, you do so at your own risk. Noobs take heed.
Hey, I am not heavy poster but I have just become the devil's advocate. I often look upon reports, find out intel, and sometimes put in my 2c. But the reason why I don't post more frequently is because I am afraid of being accused and shunned. But in reality if you don't know the person you are converse with are trading PMs with. They could be a cop, no if and's or buts about it. There is no way you can be 100% positive, even when meeting face to face, it could be a sting. There could even be some cops up here who partake in our hobby. The point is you never know. So to keep myself safe on here and on the street, I just try to keep a low profile.
We're all here looking to get information, but as with anything in life the information is not free. This board works because people post stories of their experiences along with asking questions. It has to be a two way street. You don't have to write a book in each post but we write something. Let us know that you are credible by sharing your experiences. Chance are that if you get out there you will find the same girls that we do.
Here's a little litmus test for users. If you want to get a phone number or details beyond what is posted about a particular girl, ask yourself what you can tell the person you are asking about another girl. If the answer is nothing then do not ask until you have something to trade.
For basic questions about a year ago we posted a monger rules post that should answer most questions. For other things, it is probably already on the board. It is tough when you first start out, trust me we all went through it.
Danny, no you are probably not a cop but you could stand to step up the quality of your posts. Even your posts about backpage girls and the massage parlors are a bit vague. For example, you had a post recommending that people looking for a backpage provider try Kalee, but you did not say why. I also don't see any posts about your experience with her.
Hello, fellow mongerers. I just moved to Raleigh and I've been following the posts on this site trying to figure out where was the best place to go "shopping". I drove down a street called "Bragg" and I quickly got the hell out of there. Didn't seem very safe. I spent the last few months in wilmington (posted several times there) and I figured the picking would be more abundent in a bigger city like Raleigh. But I'm not impressed.
I used to monger in the Philadelphia / Camden area and I got to tell ya. There was always good picking there.
I printed out a map that is posted with the photos on this link but when I drove it. Nothing. Could someone be so kind as to fill me in on any good places to find some SW's? I really enjoy living in this area and knowing where to do a little mongering would be nice. I would appreciate any info.
Take care and be safe.
Well I have been on here for a little while, and do not consider myself an expert by any means, but after reading some of the post lately I have to ask you all."It's not rocket science!". If you can read then you should be able to put 2 + 2 together and build off that. Yes it is not totally clear, but that is when it sometimes is trial and error, and also hit and miss. I think all of us could agree that you did not become good at something just overnight. For those who are new or just moved into the area my advise would be to just read, and take a chance. All the information you need is already there! If you just expect everyone to just say."yes, you can find (insert name) here at (insert time) , her number is (insert number)". Your gravely mistaken. I have not asked for any intel, or any special favors. I have had some success by just keep trying. Do I always find some every night I am out. No! I find some when I really am not looking for some just driving in the zones. It takes patience. This is a place to share resources, but myself or another person is not going to do the work for you! The work is for you to do. Just use the help, and don't expect miracles to happen!
In an effort to show that I'm really not that hard on noobs, I am going to paste in my PM to the noob monger who asked to ride along with me. You'll remember from my rant last week that I gladly filled this person in on HOW to monger in Raleigh. This posting will be as specific as it gets regarding where to find SWs and how to pick them up. Spare me any flames, if you think that RPD doesn't already know all of this, you're crazy.
Oh, and before I get into that, I did have a nice date with Sierra on Friday, who is now out of the joint. Without further adieu, here's Robert 1744's Raleigh Mongering Guide.
First off, you have to know that the Raleigh SW scene is virtually dead. The girl that I just reviewed, Sierra, is the first new girl we've had on the tracks in over a year. Of the few regular SWs we have, they are out at odd hours, not on a regular schedule. The point of saying that is to let you know that you could literally cruise multiple times over a few weeks and not see ANYTHING. Due to the lack of girls, it's luck of the draw. I've had some great dates at 8am on a Monday and then found nothing at 11pm on a Friday.
As far as WHERE to spot the girls. There's really only two tracks. One is by Bragg St. In SE Raleigh and the other is in the Oakwood neighborhood that adjoins Oakwood Cemetary. I'm going to assume that you have basic Google map skills.
The Bragg track is bounded by Hoke St to the South, MLK Jr. Drive to the North, State St. To the East and Blount St. To the West. Within that area, you are liable to find girls on Bragg, Branch and Hoke, particularly what we call "Lower Bragg" the block of Bragg just South of Garner Road.
Actually, there's kind of a separate track that I consider part of the Bragg track. When you're going out Blount St, you come to the intersection with Hoke. You'll see a gas station on your left. Past Hoke, Blount becomes Hammond Road, but actually if you take a right and then jog left over the RR tracks, that's the continuation of Blount running behind the industrial plant. I've seen girls walking on that strip and then if you take it down to your next right on City Farm, that runs back into S. Wilmington. Take a left on S Wilmington, and you can occassionally see girls going south on Wilmington between City Farm and lleagnes Road. Look especially at the bus stop on Pecan and S. Wilmington.
Next is the Oakwood track. That area is bounded by Oakwood Ave to the North, Edenton St. To the South, Tarboro Road to the East and Sewell St. To the West. Typically any girls you'll find are along Idlewild, but I've seen them all over this area. Percentage wise. 25% of my dates are from over here, with 75% being off of the Bragg track.
Next is HOW to find a girl. You'll develop a sixth sense for this quickly. Basically, if she's hanging out by herself in the areas listed above, with no belongings besides a purse, she's working. You will sometimes see women who are alone in these areas, but if they are walking somewhere with a purpose, have shopping bags, or are too old and fat to possibly be working, then obviously they're not. The way to make SURE she's working is to slow down, give her a long look and see if she stares back or waves, if so, you're good to go. The other thing to look for is just hanging out. A working girl will either be stationary or will walk back and forth over the same stretch of street.
Next is the pickup. Pull up beside her, roll down the window and asks if she wants a ride. ONLY ask that. She'll say yes and then get in. Make some small talk and then ask if you can feel or see her tits. She'll comply and then ask to feel you. Let her. This is how you both prove you're not law enforcement. Though technically, from the monger's standpoint, once she gets in the car that's 99% safe as an undercover officer would NEVER get in the car with you. If she DOESN'T get in the car, or especially if she asks you to pull around the corner. Just thank her and drive away. To be frank though, RPD rarely does undercover stings aimed at mongers. I think I've seen two in the last 5 years.
Last, you'll need a place to conduct your date. Drive at least a couple of miles from where you picked her up and use your own common sense to find a safe secluded area. DO NOT park anywhere near the zones you picked her up in. If you don't mind spending a little extra, you can either get a local notel for about $50. I pay $20 for blowjobs and $40 for a half and half (suck and fuck). Then I typically tip $5 for good service on a BJ. If she does indeed provide good service. I tell her this upfront as an incentive. Always be nice, respectful, but firm. Don't pay more than those rates and if she won't agree to it. Be willing to drop her back off. Just politely thank her and ask where she'd like to be dropped back.
I'll gladly take any suggestions from folks of important stuff I may have left out.
[QUOTE=Robert1744;1190553]I'll gladly take any suggestions from folks of important stuff I may have left out.[/QUOTE]I would also add that while you're looking at the different tracks try not to drive the same route each time; vary your driving pattern. People will notice whether or not you belong there and what you're doing; just don't make it too obvious for RPD.
Also, make sure you have already located your place to have your date before looking because you will waste a lot of time driving around if you don't.
And please be respectful towards the women; don't try to rip them off or cheat them.
[QUOTE=Robert1744;1190553]I'll gladly take any suggestions from folks of important stuff I may have left out.[/QUOTE]The only thing I would add is to respect the community. When you cruise you are a guest and you should always be aware of that. That means drive at a reasonable speed and even though you want your head on a swivel you should be very careful, because there are families and children. I rarely cruise during the light of day but when I do if I go down a street and kids are playing I usually avoid that street if I do another orbit.
I'll also add that when you pickup someone that you do not know use your gut if they offer a spot. I would also avoid parking in apartment parking lots or on residential streets.
Don't be afraid to not let someone in you car. Many women are pretty from a far but far from pretty. Also don't be afraid to tell someone no thank you after they get in. Sometimes they don't do what you want, want too much or smell literally like shit. Be polite, thank them for their time and if you are feeling generous give them 5 or a couple of cigarettes. In all my time doing this I have only had one chick give me a hard time and demand money when I asked her to leave. I told her that she could have the change in the ashtray, she took it and left (after that experience is when I started carrying a pack of cigarettes).
I generally carry listerine, napkins or wet wipes, condoms and only the money I plan to loose. My glovebox stays locked and I generally empty my center console (years ago I kept cds and napkins in the center console and when I gave a sw in charlotte napkins and she reached in for a few more she took most of my cds). Unless you are in a trusting mood don't leave a sw alone in you car. If you have to buy condoms, use the atm...ask her to step outside the car.
Lastly, don't be nervous. Until you pick someone up and solicit them you are not committing a crime. Even offering a girl a ride is not a crime.
Helen is a petite, light haired WSW who comes out a few times a year when she's short on money. She's got a clean, cute little body, but her face is a little streetworn. I'd peg her age for late 30's, but she looks a little older due to the life.
Her pipe cleaning was good but not great.
First real report.
As the title says, I TOFTT with Nina on lower Bragg. She's a short (probably 5'4" or so) WSW, short dark hair with a brown streak. A little hefty around the mid section and teeth are a bit jacked up, but neither as bad as Kim whom she hangs out with. Says she's just recently started working again but used to work the area often, although she didn't say when. .3 for an un-enthusiastic 50/50, all covered per her rules. Will not repeat. Maybe I'm just spoiled by 5G.
And had a somewhat different experience. It wasn't the best date I've ever had, but I would call it good. From a looks standpoint, I was going to say that she's actually a little more attractive close-up than on the drive-by, which is rare. Granted, she's no raving beauty either way, but something about her look turned me on. YMMV. I picked her up on the corner of McMakin and Garner.
As far as her service, she tried to give me the rules too. I'm a BJ guy and when she said she only did covered, I politely offered to drop her back off. Funny, her tune changed pretty quickly and she agreed to do it my way! . She agreed to the $20 easily, but tried to lament that the "other girls are driving the prices down from what they used to be." I nicely informed her that I had been out here for nearly 5 years and that's the price I've always paid. My guess is that was some passive-aggressive attempt to make me think she's worth more.
The service was good. She's definitely had some escort experience. I had to tell her to drop the fake moans, as that does nothing for me. But she paid attention to all areas and switched up the rythym enough to get where we needed to go in a pleasurable fashion. She did take my offering in her mouth and then spit it out.
Thinredline. I've got no clue as to how your manner was with Nina, but I would guess that the difference in our dates may be that I communicated clearly what my rules are, and was willing to drop her back off if she could not provide what I was seeking at the price I wanted to pay. No one should ever be a jerk with these girls, but you should be politely firm in knowing what services you want and don't be willing to compromise.