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Got a text from Stormi at the FC and I don't ever remember meeting her. Anyone else get a text from her? Anyone have any information on her performance at the FC?
Update: a few more texts and it's someone I've met before but not at FC so that threw me off
[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;6449491]Bouncers are people, too.
Chicago club views.
[/QUOTE]Chicago is not a great stripclub city. For the amount of money you would need to burn to have a decent time, those clubs should treat you well.
[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;6449491]Bouncers are people, too.
Maybe, just maybe, people who are kind, easy-going and not fighting over every dollar and little thing have fewer issues with staff, valets, them holding onto your keys, etc. , because staff has fewer issues with them and they're less of a PITA for everyone surrounding them. Just a thought.[/QUOTE]Of course it's always good to be respectful and friendly with everyone, including bouncers. I always tip servers and bartenders. I tip my server more if she lets me fondle her tits. Being a regular helps most IMHO. If you come in regularly and become familiar you can get benefits. I've had my cover waived because the guy liked my shirt.
I don't know, but it seems to me that clubs fall into 2 general categories. One business model is get the hottest girls and do everything possible to keep them. If a customer gets abused, no problem, it's easy to get more please if you have the hottest girls.
The other business model is be like a regular neighborhood bar, keep the customers happy. If they don't have the hottest girls it isn't so easy to get new custies.
My point is, if it's the first business model, the bouncers may not have the authority to disagree with the dancers. Even if you tip them and talk about the lions, if a hot dancer tries to rip you off and we go talk to the bouncer, if the end result is it the hot dancer gets mad and quits on the spot it may not bode well for the bouncer.
But yes, there can be a benefit to tipping everyone. What I hate is when I'm asked for a tip. Hey, I'm not arguing, there's more than one way to look at things. Thanks for your viewpoint.
I was at BTs a month or two back and met a dancer who just started there but I haven't seen her since. She's late 20's or early 30's and had dark hair. Don't remember her name but she said she's from Port Huron. Not a lot to go on I know but does anyone know who she is and where she's working now?
[QUOTE=Wleakr;6449745]Chicago is not a great stripclub city. For the amount of money you would need to burn to have a decent time, those clubs should treat you well.[/QUOTE]I'll take Detroit clubs over Chicago's any day.
Problem is, relative to my home base, Chicago is a 90-120 minute one-way drive, while Detroit is six hours away.
I get to Chicago once every few weeks. I'm lucky to get to Detroit once a year, though I read up on the scene and save up to have a bunch of fun when I do get there. If it was the other way around distance-wise, I'd never bother with Chicago, but it's not. No, you don't get the services you get in Detroit, but for about 1/3rd the price, you can still get a hot dancer grinding in your lap for a few songs. Better than nothin'.
That said, they can't treat every customer perfectly down there, especially when I go, weekend nights when it's busiest. I feel like I get treated better than most, though, even though there are nights where I go, don't see anything I like and leave.
It helps that one of the clubs I frequent there is an airport club, which means they also probably don't see a ton of regular business like me.
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;6449749]Being a regular helps most IMHO. If you come in regularly and become familiar you can get benefits.
I don't know, but it seems to me that clubs fall into 2 general categories. One business model is get the hottest girls and do everything possible to keep them. If a customer gets abused, no problem, it's easy to get more please if you have the hottest girls.
The other business model is be like a regular neighborhood bar, keep the customers happy. If they don't have the hottest girls it isn't so easy to get new custies.
My point is, if it's the first business model, the bouncers may not have the authority to disagree with the dancers. Even if you tip them and talk about the lions, if a hot dancer tries to rip you off and we go talk to the bouncer, if the end result is it the hot dancer gets mad and quits on the spot it may not bode well for the bouncer.
But yes, there can be a benefit to tipping everyone. What I hate is when I'm asked for a tip. Hey, I'm not arguing, there's more than one way to look at things. Thanks for your viewpoint.[/QUOTE]I also club in Milwaukee, where something about the local ordinances or whatever requires the dancers to take a "tip walk" after their stage show, going around to every customer seated near the stage and at the bar and asking for a dollar "for their show". The dancers only kinda-sorta like it for the little bit of cash they get and the chance to maybe sell dances, but don't like having to approach [I]everyone[/I]. The customers generally don't like it, but know its a thing and fork over the dollar anyway because the other alternative is being rude over something as small as a dollar. Some complain more than others. Clearly you'd hate it, LOL.
I can't really speak to the whole two types of clubs thing because I think that might be unique to Detroit. Other places I go, there are upscale clubs and dives, but they both seem to take whatever talent they can get.
I don't think the staffers I know at my usual Chicago haunts would put a new dancer's claims ahead of my regular business just because she's hot. The high-end clubs there have enough hot dancers that one more or less won't break them, while I'm a face they've seen for at least a decade. If she was a longtime dancer, yes, but I visit the same clubs on the same nights consistently, so I would be stunned if those clubs had a dancer I didn't know who didn't already have a reputation one way or another. Plus, there's not as many club choices in terms of where to work. Get fired by one club operator (who may run a few clubs in the area), you're far more at risk of having your drive to work elsewhere get a lot longer or the quality of club you work at go way down.
But Chicago also has stricter rules such that there's fewer shenanigans, both from dancers and customers. Unlike Detroit, a staffer actually counts the songs, tracks the minutes and watches the cameras. If there's a dispute either way, they've got receipts. If a dancer makes some sort of crazy claim she did nine dances and the dance-counter only has her down for three, the club's probably going to tell her to take a hike.
I can see how Detroit's elimination of the middle man for negotiated services through, ahem, (purposeful) lack of oversight, makes it much more of a risk / reward scenario for the club in terms of which side of a dancer / customer dispute to take. Maybe that's part of what creates more issues. I don't get there often enough to know.
[QUOTE=Escentia;6448892]Hi everyone, sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong place. But I'm a guy in the Metro Detroit area looking for some extras. Just how do you go about getting them? I was thinking maybe getting a few dances from a girl and asking about the VIP during then. I've also head that LS, FC, Silver Criket, are good places to go for that sorta thing. Any suggestions as what clubs to go to? Asking for a friend.[/QUOTE]First off, you need to be in the right club. Super quick overview on the area:
Low-end clubs. Henry VIII and Bogarts, both in Inkster, MI. These are dive bars which are essentially brothels. Literally every girl will do extras. Door will be $5, VIP wristband will be $10, drinks will be $8-10. Cost for extras will be $80-140 for BJs or full service. I don't like anal so I've never asked but you'll find girls at both these places which do. Day shift women tend to be older, fatter, less attractive. Sometimes you can find a diamond in the rough. For BBBJ, Nicole at Henry VIII is amazing. By and large, you're getting what you pay for. These are cheaper for a reason. Sometimes you'll find a hotter girl at one of these clubs but stick to a budget. Please don't be bidding up prices for us locals.
Mid-range clubs: BT's, Silver Cricket. Both in Dearborn, MI. These are your typical strip clubs. Tend to be average to above average looking women. African American and Arabic girls are pretty common here (and generally more attractive than the non-Arabic white chicks). I've been ripped off at BT's before (agreed to $120 for full service with a super hot chick, all inclusive then she demanded song rates on top of it) but if you search the forum, you'll find a lot of people with good experience at both. Always negotiate at the table before you go back. I'd expect to pay $150-200 for full service. Don't recall the cover and VIP charges but search the forum and you'll see a LOT of reviews.
High-end clubs: Flight Club (Inkster) and Landing Strip (Romulus). These are the Vegas-style clubs. Very hot chicks, expensive cover, expensive drinks. Lots of GPS. Be prepared to spend $200-$400 for women here. Honestly, at those prices I'd just check out Eros or Tryst and hit up the high end escorts. Why spend $300 on 5 minutes in a club with a gorgeous women when you could spend $300 for an hour in her upscale apartment?
Detroit clubs: No extras. None. They don't even have private rooms for lap dances anymore.
When you go into one of these, you find a spot with a good view. Women will come around and ask to sit. It's okay to say "no, thank you" if you don't find them attractive. Alternately, you can approach a woman on stage, tip her a few dollars and tell her you want to chat about private dances when she's off stage.
When they come over, feel free to chit chat a little bit, get a feel for her. If she is really inebriated, pass. I don't care how hot she is, super drunk is cause for concern.
After a bit, she will probably ask if you want to go in back, have fun, or whatever. Depending on the club, she'll probably grab your dick through your pants at some point. This is your time to negotiate. You need to establish: what you want, how much it will cost, and make sure it is an "all-inclusive price, no song counts" and that you'll pay after.
As far as "slang" - don't bother. Be specific. "I want to go in back, lick your nipples and play with your pussy then have you suck my dick and let me cum in your mouth. I have $120. " When she agrees, you repeat it out "$120, bare blowjob, cum in your mouth, all included, no song count, right?
You don't want there to be Any confusion.
Then you go in back, pay your cover fee to get into VIP and you stick to Exactly what her rules are and have fun.
[QUOTE=SomeDetroitGuy;6450549]
For BBBJ, Nicole at Henry VIII is amazing.
[/QUOTE]For years, everyone thought that Deanna at Henry's South was the greatest blowjob queen ever. Personally, I found her to be very good but have had better from a couple of others. IMO, Nicole gives a better BBBJ than Deanna did.
[QUOTE=Incognito1234;6450839]For years, everyone thought that Deanna at Henry's South was the greatest blowjob queen ever. Personally, I found her to be very good but have had better from a couple of others. IMO, Nicole gives a better BBBJ than Deanna did.[/QUOTE]Speaking of, does anyone know if Nicole offers takeout?
Had a day off, so decided to venture to FC early afternoon. As expected, fairly slow for customers. Dancers, I counted about 8. 1 definitely middle-aged, thicker, didn't catch name, definitely wouldn't be there at night. Another younger thicker blonde girl, and an athletic redhead. 2 others that were what I would call average, attractive, but not drop dead gorgeous. There was a group of 3 young spinners that were definitely the hottest girls there. The only one who's name I got was Valentina. She is young, new to the business. We discussed upstairs activities. She claims that "this is only the second time I will have done this", that she was a no extras girl until this week when she "gave in" Yeah, sure. Anyway, She says, everything covered, CBJ, CFS, no BBBJ, no DATY. She started at $5. I told her that was too high for CBJ and CFS. She was not negotiable on covers, but did come down on price. I would / should have just said fuck it and gone home, but little head was thinking st this point, and the girl is really attractive, so. Got upstairs for what turned into a really disappointing tine. No warm-up conversation, or dancing, just on her knees in from of me rubbing my crotch through my jeans. Then tells me to take them off. Gets me to put the cover on my half-flaccid d**k myself, and starts with a really lackluster CBJ. As soon as I started to get hard, she jumps up, pulls her panties to the side and tries to get on me still not fully erect. At this point she tells me that she has to be up on stage in 4 songs. She does an OK job of riding, and her grip is enough to get me fully erect. The best thing is that she is tiny, so you can basically grab her any use her like a fleshlight, but everything else is pretty unremarkable. She definitely doesn't seem to be enjoying what she is doing. I was able to finish, and left her to go onstage.
I noticed this strategy, and really didn't pay much attention to it until today. I believe that the clique of spinners were all employing it, rather than come to sit with you and inquire about upstairs dances after they finish their set, they disappear for a while, then come talk to you when they only have a short time before they're back onstage. Kind of a way to rush you without it seeming like they are.
Overall, attractive girl, lackluster experience, will not repeat.
[QUOTE=StaticAjm;6451002]Speaking of, does anyone know if Nicole offers takeout?[/QUOTE]If she gets to know you, she probably will. I've had her over before but I've been going to the club for years and I've seen her a lot.
My guess is that if you're not crazy looking and don't have missing persons newspaper clippings hung up all over your bedroom, she'll probably do it.
[QUOTE=MacStuffin;6451048]
Overall, attractive girl, lackluster experience, will not repeat.[/QUOTE]Sorry that happened to you. How disappointing.
Henry's is across the street and Bogart's is just down the road, so you should try those out. In general, I'm sure they're not going to be FC quality looking but you can occasionally find a diamond in the rough that will get the job done very well, for far, far less.
Sorry for babbling so much on the board today but I'm thinking of venturing out to Henry's and Bogart's tonight. I haven't been in a couple of weeks, so I was wondering if anyone has noticed any new talent on nights, however unlikely?
I've been seeing Sunflower but she's hit and miss. Sometimes, she'll be there and sometimes she won't. Sometimes, she'll come see me and sometimes, she won't. So, it's pretty much a coin flip with her.
While I was in town last week I checked out both Legends and Bouzoukis. Legends was incredibly pricey, had amazingly gorgeous girls like solid 8+ everywhere and was incredibly crowded. Definitely wasn't finding a lot of options for extras there. Amazing looking girls if you want a look but if you're trying for something else I'd look elsewhere.
Bouzoukis was entirely different. The place was really sad looking and all the girls looked busted. The drinks and dances were far cheaper. Very first girl that came up to me gave me a whole menu of extras. She looked like she was tweaking on something and must've been late 40's. Menu was basically wide open. I could've brought her back to my room with an open menu for less than two bills. Don't remember her name. Wasn't interested.
Had two other girls offer extras for stupid prices one wanted a grand for an hour with a really narrow menu and she was not that good looking.
Had another one I ended up talking down that I took back to my hotel after closing. Spent a little more than 2 bills and got a little over an hour, MSOG covered FS.
If you're just looking for dances I had some good experiences overall, the VIP area if you can call it that is just an open area in the back with chairs and couches, anyone else getting a dance can see everything. Despite that they were very physical and included a lot of touching, had a few playing with me under my pants.
Be careful though. First two girls I had back there tried to keep going when the song ended without saying anything. I bet they would've tried to rack up a hell of a tab if I woulda let them. Not on my watch. Hell no.
[QUOTE=SomeDetroitGuy;6450549]High-end clubs: Flight Club (Inkster) and Landing Strip (Romulus). These are the Vegas-style clubs. Very hot chicks, expensive cover, expensive drinks. Lots of GPS. Be prepared to spend $200-$400 for women here.[/QUOTE]As a guy who mostly goes to Silver Criket, is it truly feasible to get FS at Landing Strip or Flight Club for $200-$400? I assumed it would be more. Also any recommendations for day shift on a Saturday?
[QUOTE=Darwin2000;6452372]As a guy who mostly goes to Silver Criket, is it truly feasible to get FS at Landing Strip or Flight Club for $200-$400? I assumed it would be more. Also any recommendations for day shift on a Saturday?[/QUOTE]The most I ever played for FS was 300 at landing strip and 400 flight club. Really wasn't worth it for a quick bang and go. Depending on your patience and willingness to haggle, you can do better than that. Expect opening offers of 500 or more at fc and some at landing might open with 400.