Don't misunderstand my intentions
[QUOTE=Harveyspec1069;7610581]On 5/7, you questioned LanceCave when he was posting multiple reviews across several states.[/QUOTE]Oh don't get me wrong, he is indeed 100% a shill as is another one that you recently called out with the wrong phone number.
What I am saying is at least half of the Melody reviews are also complete shill reviews that read like an advertising banner or billboard. Whether they were given a discount for leaving the review or is just a straight out owner review doesn't matter, they are very obvious. And then the facts that you point out are completely 1 sided, taking only the parts that make your so called point. For instance, $200 all in and done whereas Orchid offers upgrades such as BBFS and Anal for an extra charge. In a review you posted not so long ago you speak of a girl with an extras menu at Melody. Now if you are going to say that Melody offers BBFS and anal for no extra fee then say that but don't hide behind your words.
I just really dislike when members here have opinions and comments on a girl or place that they have never been or seen. What's to say the negative reviews there aren't someone from Melody or another spa trying to hurt their business? Instead, you and most other reviews will leave comments about how bad the place is when you have not even stepped foot inside. I am not defending Orchid or Sakura, I am just pointing out the bias that you unfairly spread based on nothing experienced is all.
I am sure that Melody is great, we have a few Melody type spas here in OC. It just really bothers me when there is clear attacks and bias with no experience.
I don't want to start a big fight with you, after May I will probably never check this board again. I thought our OC boards were bad with shills and fake reviews but your boards make us look good.
That Is Not a Verdict. It Is an Observation.
Fair enough, and I think we actually agree on more than we disagree.
I have never said Orchid or Sakura are definitively bad. My point has been much narrower than that.
When a new shop launches and the earliest praise comes primarily from out-of-town accounts, with similar patterns and nearly identical pricing (160+60) from every single "independent" out-of-town posters, that is worth noting. Especially when the first local Tucson reports describe a different experience.
That is not a verdict. It is an observation.
If consistent local reviews start showing clean sessions, transparent pricing, and no surprise charges, then the market will adjust accordingly. Good shops tend to establish themselves over time.
As for Melody, I have no issue applying the same standard there or anywhere else. Every board has shills, every shop has promotional posts, and experienced readers should remain skeptical across the board.
Where we differ is that I believe posting observable patterns is useful, even if I have not personally visited. Readers can decide for themselves what weight to assign those signals.
At the end of the day, repeated local outcomes carry more weight for me than early out-of-town promotional noise and hype, regardless of which shop is being discussed.
Not going to argue with you
I am not on a mission as you are and will not comment on this anymore.
You clearly are trying to steer people away, you even tell how one road leads to glory and riches while the other road leads to more money and disappointment. This from someone that has never been there. So they didn't hide their shills as well as Melody did is not my point. Speak about what you know. I probably wouldn't have ever even commented until I saw Sakura's name being dragged down. She is an amazing provider that is beloved here in OC. Yes she has upcharges if you want BBFS or Anal but show me a provider that doesn't.
You understand as well as I do that a new shop needs a shill or 2 to start and I have always been more or less OK with them as long as there was some honesty in the descriptions. From there, yes let the locals start to fill in. What I saw here were brazen attacks from new local accounts and then all of the "senior" accounts hat have never been there piling on.
I am in no way trying to say that Orchid is good or bad or Melody is good or bad because I have never been to either, but neither should you is my point. I already know your response will say that you are not saying they are bad but I think you should re-read the way you clearly steer and bias your report.
Good Shops Establish Themselves Over Time.
That is a fair point, and I think we have both stated our positions clearly.
I am not claiming Orchid or Sakura are definitively good or bad, and I agree that local reviews over time are what ultimately matter most.
My only point was that when a new shop launches and the earliest praise comes from accounts that even other members have questioned, while the first local reports describe a different experience, that pattern is worth noting.
Readers can decide for themselves what weight to assign those signals.
If future Tucson reviews show consistently positive, transparent experiences, then the market will reflect that. Good shops tend to establish themselves over time.
Either way, I appreciate the civil discussion.
I think we have both made our points, so I am content to leave it there and agree to disagree.
Local Signals Carry More Weight.
The fact that the Melody number was reportedly out of service is something most locals would have recognized immediately, which brings me back to my original point: local signals and patterns tend to carry more weight than out-of-town noise.
Either way, I do not want to create any unnecessary issues for the thread or cause any potential troubles for the admin, so I am happy to agree to disagree and leave it there.
I will not be commenting further on this matter.
Wrong copy paste and here comes the troll from home
[QUOTE=CactusJacker;7610002]Did someone answer the Melody number ending in 9697? That hasn't been their number for about a year. I'll message you the correct one.[/QUOTE]Thank you for Dm me with the number, I copied pasted the wrong number from rubmaps like most travelers do, sorry for stirring up drama at this side of the forum. Never a dull moment from the infamous troll from the OC side to follow people around like a plague. Not trying to defend my visit, but am actually came to down because my dad moved to the area because Cali got too expensive for him, and it is mothers day, so just came down to pay my visit. Certainly not trying to punch down any one or step on anyone's toe.
New in town due to family
[QUOTE=Harveyspec1069;7610062]Been watching the early reports on this new spot and something doesn't quite line up..[/QUOTE]Fam just finally move to 2nd street last week, not knowing the biosphere in Tucson, I just use the small brain to decide where to look for, and Orchid is just the nearest place to be while google and rubmap the closest. I mean aside from that is Pink spa down the road, stopped by there before, didn't like what I saw and left. I am very much new to your town, certainly not trying to stir up unnecessary drama to this side of the forum, the troll from our OC side had followed due to I left a review at my local place before headed up here for mothers day, I will be going to other places in Tucson just give me some time at least. Can't say for the others, but I am just want to put my 2 cents into the matter if that even counts. Again sorry for drag up any drama that may had upset a few locals, not my intention.
LOL. You flatter yourself
[QUOTE=JerrySmi123;7610736]Thank you for Dm me with the number, I copied pasted the wrong number from rubmaps like most travelers do, sorry for stirring up drama at this side of the forum. Never a dull moment from the infamous troll from the OC side to follow people around like a plague. Not trying to defend my visit, but am actually came to down because my dad moved to the area because Cali got too expensive for him, and it is mothers day, so just came down to pay my visit. Certainly not trying to punch down any one or step on anyone's toe.[/QUOTE]Troll, pretty funny. You should have named this account Clueless1. I was browsing the forums for my upcoming trip and laughed when I saw the king posting here as well. It's funny how every time anyone catches his slip ups, wrong name, wrong description, wrong phone number, he has a great excuse and then attacks. "I copied and pasted the number that I called incorrectly. LOL" Coincidentally one of his other accounts posted an attack in the OC forums minutes apart. Feel free to embarrass yourself all you want at my expense, that is what the ignore list is for.