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Motivation?
[QUOTE=Walker333;3329482]IMO (and based on my experience) they all change and finally make us happy, after certain number of visits, and, if we demonstrate some friendliness and a little attention. It's just matter of time, because at the end they want repeated business. If they consider you as a good, valuable client-asset, they wouldn't want to loose you (or steady income) over a simple HE.
Sometimes we loose our interest sooner than they loose their mental virginity, but if a client is persistent and patient, eventually he will be happy.
Anyone disagree?[/QUOTE]Are you in it for a possible relationship, or are you simply looking for some service? If you visit a barber shop, and get a bad haircut, do you return in anticipation something will change? How much are money are you ready to invest for the opportunity to get off?
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[QUOTE=Walker333;3329482]IMO (and based on my experience) they all change and finally make us happy, after certain number of visits, and, if we demonstrate some friendliness and a little attention. It's just matter of time, because at the end they want repeated business. If they consider you as a good, valuable client-asset, they wouldn't want to loose you (or steady income) over a simple HE.
Sometimes we loose our interest sooner than they loose their mental virginity, but if a client is persistent and patient, eventually he will be happy.
Anyone disagree?[/QUOTE]I paid her several vists years ago and she wasn't budging for me so I took my money elsewhere.
There are too many providers that provide HE for me to waste my time and money trying to get a HE out of one who isn't willing to play.
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[QUOTE=ReadyForRub;3329564]Are you in it for a possible relationship, or are you simply looking for some service? If you visit a barber shop, and get a bad haircut, do you return in anticipation something will change? How much are money are you ready to invest for the opportunity to get off?[/QUOTE]I'm not willing to give a second chance if the first chance isn't even close but that's just me. There's too many options to reward bad behavior IMHO.
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Motivation
[QUOTE=ReadyForRub;3329564]Are you in it for a possible relationship, or are you simply looking for some service? If you visit a barber shop, and get a bad haircut, do you return in anticipation something will change? How much are money are you ready to invest for the opportunity to get off?[/QUOTE]I didn't anticipat or wanted any emotional connection, just pure business. I would not compare it to a barber shop because in massage (as long as it not therapeutic) there is always presence of some level of sensuality. As we both know, men are aroused during the process even without any testing, and all mts know that.
So, basically, the mt just adds some little touch of pleasure at the end, to preserve her cash flow.
It might not happen on the first couple of sessions, and, the issue cost / benefits is always present.
I know hobbyists that completely disregard the financial aspects, because their satisfaction just is to get "it" from the mt that is known for not giving it.
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[QUOTE=Walker333;3329833]
I know hobbyists that completely disregard the financial aspects, because their satisfaction just is to get "it" from the mt that is known for not giving it.[/QUOTE]I'm one of those guys. A while back I was going to an mt at her house. It was a nice setup downstairs that even had a shower. I could tell I wasn't her first client. Her ad didn't have any of the keywords we look for but still I made an appt.
Show up to find a very attractive 35 ish Asian MILF. Down into the room where I get under the sheet. She gave me a very legit massage with no teasing or even a hint.
Okay. No problem. Now that I know what the deal is it's up to me if I want to make another appt.
A week later I do and it's the same routine. I'm still attracted to her and the fact that her hubby was working in his home office right outside the room made me both nervous and excited. I made more appts. Gambling on the fact that she was Asian and married, and I was laying naked on her table, hoping for a hint of fun.
Nothing ever happened so eventually I stopped going.
Worst case was I still got a very relaxing massage so it wasn't hard earned down the drain.
Point is it wasn't about the HE, it was about turning good girl into bad girl. Especially with the hubby there right outside the room every time.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you learn.
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[QUOTE=Captain1954;3329217]Funny a review for her was posted on MPr a couple of days ago giving an address in Streamwood could be fake I have not checked.[/QUOTE]Definitely Fake. She used to reply to my emails but hasn't in a couple years. I can't confirm she passed away. If so RIP. She was a great lady.
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[QUOTE=Walker333;3329482]IMO (and based on my experience) they all change and finally make us happy, after certain number of visits, and, if we demonstrate some friendliness and a little attention. It's just matter of time, because at the end they want repeated business. If they consider you as a good, valuable client-asset, they wouldn't want to loose you (or steady income) over a simple HE.
Sometimes we loose our interest sooner than they loose their mental virginity, but if a client is persistent and patient, eventually he will be happy.
Anyone disagree?[/QUOTE]I am sure this is the case.
Sometimes, they do it at first time when it's too obvious he is not a police or anything.
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[QUOTE=ReadyForRub;3329564]Are you in it for a possible relationship, or are you simply looking for some service? If you visit a barber shop, and get a bad haircut, do you return in anticipation something will change? How much are money are you ready to invest for the opportunity to get off?[/QUOTE]Personally, I have hypertension.
Young guys may not understand, but I started enjoying massage after I became 40.
(Especially rainy day or so.)
And, I would not mind something extra, but not looking for it desperately like before.
(I used to in 20s and 30s).
Since I have more savings, I plan to have massage once in a while.
It is possible to repeat a lady.
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[QUOTE=ChgoJJ;3329638]I paid her several vists years ago and she wasn't budging for me so I took my money elsewhere.
There are too many providers that provide HE for me to waste my time and money trying to get a HE out of one who isn't willing to play.[/QUOTE]Are you sure it was several visit?
Then, she must be legit.
Still, I want to try since it's cheaper and I prefer private residence.
By the way, I learned that it's kind of important to visit them in the evening.
Women change by mood a lot.
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[QUOTE=HeadFirst;3330050]I'm one of those guys. A while back I was going to an mt at her house. It was a nice setup downstairs that even had a shower. I could tell I wasn't her first client. Her ad didn't have any of the keywords we look for but still I made an appt.
Show up to find a very attractive 35 ish Asian MILF. Down into the room where I get under the sheet. She gave me a very legit massage with no teasing or even a hint.
Okay. No problem. Now that I know what the deal is it's up to me if I want to make another appt.
A week later I do and it's the same routine. I'm still attracted to her and the fact that her hubby was working in his home office right outside the room made me both nervous and excited. I made more appts. Gambling on the fact that she was Asian and married, and I was laying naked on her table, hoping for a hint of fun.
Nothing ever happened so eventually I stopped going.
Worst case was I still got a very relaxing massage so it wasn't hard earned down the drain.
Point is it wasn't about the HE, it was about turning good girl into bad girl. Especially with the hubby there right outside the room every time.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you learn.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for sharing.
Personally, I do prefer private residence, bit I would not go if there is a hubby.
I went to a Chinese girl's town house before.
Strangely, no one answered my doorbell.
A while later, I saw a man (brother or hubby) in the house picking up mails and never been there again.
And, in your case, what if the hubby installed a camera?
That guarantees nothing will ever happen.
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Rip
[QUOTE=RicoForty;3330060]Definitely Fake. She used to reply to my emails but hasn't in a couple years. I can't confirm she passed away. If so RIP. She was a great lady.[/QUOTE]I remember seeing a post she made a few years ago telling us that she was retiring for health reasons. She was battling the big C and was not doing well. You are right, she was a great lady.
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Grace
[QUOTE=BradId24;3330165]Are you sure it was several visit?
Then, she must be legit.
Still, I want to try since it's cheaper and I prefer private residence.
By the way, I learned that it's kind of important to visit them in the evening.
Women change by mood a lot.[/QUOTE]I saw here several times and different times of the day, but I still left without HE.
If you have any luck with her be sure to let us know.
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Fake review on Denise
[QUOTE=Captain1954;3329217]Funny a review for her was posted on MPr a couple of days ago giving an address in Streamwood could be fake I have not checked.[/QUOTE]I would say the review posted a couple of days ago on MPr is a fake review.
She did work out of her home in Streamwood when she was active in the business.
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[QUOTE=ChgoJJ;3330693]I saw here several times and different times of the day, but I still left without HE.
If you have any luck with her be sure to let us know.[/QUOTE]I am curious, but how was massage itself?
When I think about it, I have never repeat MT.
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https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/thp/6062238651.html
Has anyone tired this lady?