Funny master hinode.....me too .lol when they ask i say sorry politely and tell them when times are better i will spend again...they ask money is tight? I answer no service has to improve like it used to be.......hahahaha
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Funny master hinode.....me too .lol when they ask i say sorry politely and tell them when times are better i will spend again...they ask money is tight? I answer no service has to improve like it used to be.......hahahaha
[QUOTE=Col Chuck]Funny master hinode. Me too. LOL when they ask I say sorry politely and tell them when times are better I will spend again. They ask money is tight? I answer no service has to improve like it used to B. Hahahaha[/QUOTE]Messrs.: I believe the KBGs are quite curious of my current spending habits due to their blatant recon missions; they even try to start a conversation to get my attention. I'm tipping well, but not wasting money buying nekos.
Anyway, I'm sticking with the boycott because I feel detached from the KBGs and still getting some attention.
Spending money wastefully is not their cup of tea (they used to save an astounding 30% of their net income in K land vs. 10-12% in the USA). IMO, they look for weaknesses; if no more, they try to create it anyway they can.
Tried Maya's on Sheridan but it was just too packed. Many girls and a few old ladies. Of the girls I saw, 3 or 4 of them belong in an AMP; IMO hostessing is a waste of material with looks like that.
Moonflower had a hot local or mainland 20-something tanned oriental girl with a tight figure and bleached hair. She was very busy and getting drinks quite frequently. Eye candy was alright, better than Butterfly or New Casino at present. I met a slim comparatively tall girl with a tight curvy swimmer's body and a so-so face, somewhat tanned; sorry usually my memory is good but I can't remember her name. She was the only one with that kind of figure.
Checked Splash but it was a "sausage fest". I didn't see anything hot.
Crystal Palace SUCKED. Man they blew so much money trying to pimp that place; hostesses were few and average at best.
I then went to Evergreen and you can guess what that was like. Lisa's dad is in town so she is off for awhile. Linda is on vacation, too. Aside from Miho, I didn't see Yuko or the other j-girls.
H M
[QUOTE=H Mobius]Tried Maya's on Sheridan; Moonflower had a hot local. Better than Butterfly or New Casino at present; Checked Splash;
Crystal Palace SUCKED; I then went to Evergreen. H M[/QUOTE]That's quite an evening, like a LRP (long-range patrol). Have never done that much bar-hopping; tend to park the okole in one or two places at the most, unless the place was that crappy.
IMO, Maya has an appealing KBG business reputation and is savvy, if you know what I mean. You know you doing something right when others try to bury you, but can't. Good recon and boycott.
Anybody have any luck with "take out" from evergreen?
I'd appreciate a PM for info.
[QUOTE=Aflack]That's quite an evening, like a LRP (long-range patrol). Have never done that much bar-hopping; tend to park the okole in one or two places at the most, unless the place was that crappy.
IMO, Maya has an appealing KBG business reputation and is savvy, if you know what I mean. You know you doing something right when others try to bury you, but can't. Good recon and boycott.[/QUOTE]I normally hit the kb's at least once a week, but usually only a few bars, like hitting the bars along kap (new c, butterfly, d'amour, evergreen and eve's) or sheridan (maya's moonf, camelot, secret and maybe splash). Most of the other bars have been slow lately, but maya's seems to be busy. They have new girls also, I noticed some girls from crystal palace working there now. Even camelot looks slow lately. But I think it's because of tax time, every year it's usually slow about this time of the year.
Funny, a number of girls normally wouldn't give me the time of day but with it being so slow they are coming up to me for business. I usually tell them that they never wanted my company before so why would I want their company now?
Sorry, I'm not really part of your boycott but my rule is that I will only spend money on girls that will allow play and I usually tell the girls that first, a few leave but there are a number of girls that do play. This isn't a recent thing so many of the girls that I sit with aren't doing it because of the boycott or slow bar.
[QUOTE=Un Holy]Anybody have any luck with "take out" from evergreen?
I'd appreciate a PM for info.[/QUOTE]
On a side note after Maya's closed I saw a guy get "take-out" with one of their juiciest hostesses.
[QUOTE=H Mobius]On a side note after Maya's closed I saw a guy get "take-out" with one of their juiciest hostesses.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure it was take out and not just a ride home? Was there action in the parking lot?
[QUOTE=John Ross]Are you sure it was take out and not just a ride home? Was there action in the parking lot?[/QUOTE]
This was down the street. I have no way of knowing what happened after she got in the car, but there's always hope. In my mind I was kinda rooting for him. Right now there aren't many girls like that even working as hostesses; at least he got that far and hopefully more. She did seem a little wasted though.
[QUOTE=H Mobius]This was down the street. I have no way of knowing what happened after she got in the car, but there's always hope. In my mind I was kinda rooting for him. Right now there aren't many girls like that even working as hostesses; at least he got that far and hopefully more. She did seem a little wasted though.[/QUOTE]
He was probably dropping her off. Nothing worse than taking a drunk bar girl home as she could always puke in/on your car, then you still have to carry/drag her into her place. Been there and done that too many times. The sex wasn't worth it.
Went to Blue Sea last week early evening. Saw a few milf kbs. Met Kimi and she asked me if I knew anyone there and I said Sophia if she still works there. She asked me if I sit with her upstairs. I told her no, but I assume there is action to be had there. Nothing changed from a few years ago I guess. But who plays and what is the damage there?
[QUOTE=H Mobius]This was down the street. I have no way of knowing what happened after she got in the car, but there's always hope. In my mind I was kinda rooting for him. Right now there aren't many girls like that even working as hostesses; at least he got that far and hopefully more. She did seem a little wasted though.[/QUOTE]Good luck for him, but imo, I think the mama should neva have let her walk home if she was that drunk. The good mamas will make theiur girls take cabs.
Boycott continues. Went to Crystal Palace (too big and no girls). The waiter claimed that all the "hot girls" are already in the rooms. But this was at 9 pm, so I doubt that. They should make the girls come out every half hour and do a walk around so we can at least see whos around. Had one drink and went to Banzai for a drink (dead, dead, dead) and then to Napa Valley for some overpriced food. Had one cute local girl, I think she was mentioned in the Viet thread at Moonflower. Old guy was molesting her but left blue balled. Definitely no play from her at Napa except a lot of gropping, but dunno about at Moonflower. I think her name was Lisa or some american name like that.
Boycott continues.
Peace out.
[QUOTE=Mogo Master]Went to Blue Sea last week early evening. Saw a few milf kbs. Met Kimi and she asked me if I knew anyone there and I said Sophia if she still works there. She asked me if I sit with her upstairs. I told her no, but I assume there is action to be had there. Nothing changed from a few years ago I guess. But who plays and what is the damage there?[/QUOTE]
Play is still available there. Kim, Sophia and Jay all play upstairs and everything is offered. Standard damage as you tip at an AMP and you get rushed. Just go to the AMP.
Watch out guys one guy posted in the escort forum that he just got herpes from a girl even while wearing a condom. You can also catch it from kissing! Had a good friend that got it from a guy she was checking out many decades ago and it does stay with you for life! I felt sorry for her. Be safe!
Got to think twice about those BBBJ!
[QUOTE=Haole Hulk]Watch out guys one guy posted in the escort forum that he just got herpes from a girl even while wearing a condom. You can also catch it from kissing! Had a good friend that got it from a guy she was checking out many decades ago and it does stay with you for life! I felt sorry for her. Be safe!
Got to think twice about those BBBJ![/QUOTE]Did you kiss her? good friends do kiss alot.
The MS is the only hot chick in there. some people might know the kitchen mama that use to work at T Time.
I think it is highly unlikely that the guy got "take-out". Probably just a ride home. As someone stated earlier in this forum Maya Mama is pretty keen and I doubt would knowingly allow one of her girls to get into a bad situation. I have been hitting the bars longer than some of you have been alive and know these girls even when drunk stay sharp enough to only go with guys they and/or mama trust. All of that being said, remember guys, if a girl is drunk and you do have sex. You can still be charged with rape even if she seemingly wanted it. A drunk girl can not give consent, case law shows that to be so.
Have fun but be safe!
I hear you Alack, my rule of thumb on tip is about $1 per drink. Unless they come around and ask you if you want another round before you finish your drink or sit by you and talk story and don't ask for a drink at all then I tip a bit more just out of courtesy. Table tip is for service and if there's none, I'm ok with leaving nothing especially if I know I'm not coming back to that bar for a long while or at all.
So this past Sunday was purely dead all over town. I can say that the busiest place was Maya's. Everygreen and Napa was slow too, but hey, it's a Sunday.
[QUOTE=Aflack]I used to leave one dollar per drink (no pupus) but now I scrutinize the service. The issue is not the food; it's the courtesy and attitude. Now, I don't give a rat's ass; get plenty places to eat besides the bar. F them.
To be fair, got at least two guys I have witnessed who 'eat up' and no leave tip all the time. You F'ers not helping, either. If you no like spend money, stay home.
BTW, excluding the 'welcoming' issue, bar assessments were right on, IMO.[/QUOTE]
Can anyone please PM me or something about the boycott? If there is a boycott, I want to know where not to go cause I think I might be screwing the boycott up and I do believe in the boycott since there are so much ROBs.
[QUOTE=H Mobius]On a side note after Maya's closed I saw a guy get "take-out" with one of their juiciest hostesses.[/QUOTE]Good for him! Was it a local or a haole looking guy?
[QUOTE=Ripcurl09]Good for him! Was it a local or a haole looking guy?[/QUOTE]
Looked like a younger local oriental unassuming guy. He unlocked the door of his very modest car, stood aside and let her get in.
Maybe it Was just a ride home; I have pleasant memories of such. Like you say, "Good for him". I was just happy the time a girl let me watch TV with her for awhile. Anyway he looked like he treats her well, as opposed to being an aggressive demanding type.
[QUOTE=You Me]Did you kiss her? good friends do kiss alot.[/QUOTE]Nope I didn't but would have her whole body if I could. She was a super hot Japanese Filipino girl! After I found out what happened to her I was glad nothing happened.
Some a couple of young chicks smoking outside. Know nothing about bars so just wondering if I go in this place what will happen? Will I just sit by myself and have a margarita (if they even have these) and be left alone? Also what is the cost of a drink? I know this sounds stupid but I don't want to look like a total idiot if I walk in and check it out.
[QUOTE=Tsunami69]I think it is highly unlikely that the guy got "take-out". Probably just a ride home. As someone stated earlier in this forum Maya Mama is pretty keen and I doubt would knowingly allow one of her girls to get into a bad situation. I have been hitting the bars longer than some of you have been alive and know these girls even when drunk stay sharp enough to only go with guys they and/or mama trust. All of that being said, remember guys, if a girl is drunk and you do have sex. You can still be charged with rape even if she seemingly wanted it. A drunk girl can not give consent, case law shows that to be so.
Have fun but be safe![/QUOTE]Not necesarily, unless you used some sort of force then yes you can be charged. And yes a drunk 21 year old can still give consent. As far as if the guy got takeout? Who knows? She wouldn't be the first that went home with a guy. These things happen all the time whether he was a customer, sugar daddy, boyfriend, etc. Its just that not everyone shares info on these boards.
[QUOTE=Hilo Boy]Some a couple of young chicks smoking outside. Know nothing about bars so just wondering if I go in this place what will happen? Will I just sit by myself and have a margarita (if they even have these) and be left alone? Also what is the cost of a drink? I know this sounds stupid but I don't want to look like a total idiot if I walk in and check it out.[/QUOTE]
Personally, I stick with something simple, like beer, until I know I can trust the bartender. A shot is not so evident as to brand; I trust the local guys at Evergreen, for example, to fill my order honestly, but with kgirls chances are they'll use something cheaper than what you called for especially if you are at a table and thus not looking. I order that sort of drink at the bar and watch to see that they don't pull any stunts. They may or may not know how to make a margarita so you might want to be at the bar for that.
They should have a menu board; usually domestic beers, for example, are around $3 after happy hour. Hostess drinks would be $20. Do not pay with an amount that would require change (such as paying with a 50) to avoid any "misunderstandings", advances on subsequent drinks, or B-S upsells.
Also some places are just too pilau so I would never drink from their glassware.
If you are unfamiliar with this place, I would sit at the bar and scope things out rather than go straight to a table (I still do this even at bars I've been going to for years, just because staff moves around and girls come and go). You can then see girls who were not visible when you first entered (the better ones are oftentimes taken) and observe who comes up for drinks every 2 seconds (the ROBs) and who is more reasonable about it, among other things.
Whether they approach you is YMMV. Girls are different now; I seldom get approached, usually get treated like LE even by the ms sometimes.
You are right - you don't want to look green or they'll take advantage of you even harder. Like Rap Reiplinger said, walk in there like you own the place.
Went there on Tuesday night which happened to be anniversary party night. As with these partys all over town, "new" girls tend to show up, make a fast buck, and move again. Today is the last day, so if you want to see for yourself, go and have a beer. You might even get a free (depending on what you consider free) T shirt. I passed on getting one. [QUOTE=Hilo Boy]Some a couple of young chicks smoking outside. Know nothing about bars so just wondering if I go in this place what will happen? Will I just sit by myself and have a margarita (if they even have these) and be left alone? Also what is the cost of a drink? I know this sounds stupid but I don't want to look like a total idiot if I walk in and check it out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mogo Master]Went there on Tuesday night which happened to be anniversary party night. As with these partys all over town, "new" girls tend to show up, make a fast buck, and move again. Today is the last day, so if you want to see for yourself, go and have a beer. You might even get a free (depending on what you consider free) T shirt. I passed on getting one.[/QUOTE]Who is the black guy behind the bar? I'll drop by tonight.
To: H. Mobius regarding Take Out
Not sure if it is the boycott or the economy but there is definitely a change in the girls willingness to do take out. I was at Evergreen several weeks ago after 2 and brought CC a couple drinks. She asked if I had a car and we walked out to the parking lot I felt like I was raped. I was actually nervous someone would walk by but she didn't care. Afterwards didn't ask for much and the next morning I found her panties on the floor. Next door at Butterfly there are two girls one I used to like that have figured out that if they go in the car with their customers they don't have to split with the m-s. I think the m-s has gotten wise and fired her. Like cockroaches these girls know how to survive and in a down market will find a way to keep most of the money by doing take out.
That's David the karaoke man and helps behind the bar. Very nice guy. [QUOTE=You Me]Who is the black guy behind the bar? I'll drop by tonight.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CruzControl]To: H. Mobius regarding Take Out
Not sure if it is the boycott or the economy but there is definitely a change in the girls willingness to do take out. I was at Evergreen several weeks ago after 2 and brought CC a couple drinks. She asked if I had a car and we walked out to the parking lot I felt like I was raped. I was actually nervous someone would walk by but she didn't care. Afterwards didn't ask for much and the next morning I found her panties on the floor. Next door at Butterfly there are two girls one I used to like that have figured out that if they go in the car with their customers they don't have to split with the m-s. I think the m-s has gotten wise and fired her. Like cockroaches these girls know how to survive and in a down market will find a way to keep most of the money by doing take out.[/QUOTE]
Well it's certainly nothing new. Hostesses have been f-ing customers since before many of us were born, and will continue to long after we're old and retired from bars. I'm glad for guys who are able to get private time with the girl. At any rate, I was only responding to Un Holy's post, who in retrospect doesn't need such a post to know where to go to get action.
You're right; that girl should not have played right there in the lot as that might have drawn the wrong kind of attention to her bar.
Went to Club Hollywood on Monday night, bought couple drinks for this Korean girl in her 30's skinny hair up, name Jia or Gia. Anybody sat with her before? Does she play or does she have a bf or is she a rob, anybody got any 411.
Please respond back or PM me. Thanks Doh Dah
[QUOTE=Mogo Master] I passed on getting one.[/QUOTE]Never got one but got two for 20.
So now that we are discussing this lets take it a step further and start a list of take out and from where.
Anyone care to start?
[QUOTE=Hilo Boy]Some a couple of young chicks smoking outside. Know nothing about bars so just wondering if I go in this place what will happen? Will I just sit by myself and have a margarita (if they even have these) and be left alone? Also what is the cost of a drink? I know this sounds stupid but I don't want to look like a total idiot if I walk in and check it out.[/QUOTE]I know one of the girls you talking about is Channel. she use to work at Splash four weeks ago. If I knew she was working there I would have not gone there.
[QUOTE=You Me]I know one of the girls you talking about is Channel. she use to work at Splash four weeks ago. If I knew she was working there I would have not gone there.[/QUOTE]Channel called me a couple of days ago. Stated she had moved to new bar. Red Carnation. She did work at Eagles in Waipahu for awhile.
Speaks English very well. And likes your money. That's about it with her.
Its bad enough I gotta wait until next week for my ban to end. Reading Flimflamman's report was pure torture! Man your report was awesome! Thought you was goin say then I woke up and had to change my underwear at the end. Nah just kidding,but again awesome post!
[QUOTE=Flimflamman]As I was driving away, with VIP in my rear view, I said to myself, in over 35 years mongering, I never had a bar experience like that! Damn that was exciting![/QUOTE]Yeah buddy, great story!! Great experience. Too bad pretty rare though, huh?
I'd like that too, but oh, what the hell..cannot handle the bar scene, too expensive 4 me
Thanks for the post
[QUOTE=Flimflamman]Went back to Pearl City hoping Sophia(name altered) was still there.[/QUOTE]
Great report. But if you aren't going to share her name, you might as well not report.
Went to Hello Eve. Tomoko is back from Japan, if anyone's interested. Still whiney as hell.
The rest of the Makaloa strip sucked. D'Amour smelled like saliva and had almost no hostesses. Bought Gina at Evergreen a couple since she was looking FINE and gave a little bit of nice massage.
Maya's was slow but there were 3 or 4 decent pieces of eye candy. One was real skinny and tight, you'll know when you see her if that's how she dresses. About 5' 7" with heels. They had the best-looking girls of all the places I saw.
I didn't recognize anyone at Moonflower. Ari (the ROB who kept changing her name whenever she moved bars, Not the taller leggy big-titted one from the 90's) from Hello Eve/Evergreen/Camelot from about 2007 was there but lost her legginess.
Maybe all the girls had a good weekend because Camelot and Splash were dead. Splash had some older Kalihi-types trying to sing and dance and I didn't see any hot skirts like I usually do.
[QUOTE=Flimflamman]Shared her name the last time and one of you mongers told her about the website. This Board has no FCR.
As I told the guys who pm'd me the same thing.
You have the name of the place.
This whole trip on having sex with these women is all YMMV. Apparently if a monger "no can" then all FCR's go out the window.
If you caught this post when it first came out you would have gotton her name. A couple of hours later I decided to alter the name because of above reason.
VIP is there in Pearl City![/QUOTE]
Exactly! (about the FCR). All these newbs. You would think common sense would tell them, "Make some sh*t up!" Now that I think about it, you were protecting yourself and not the girl.