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[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5230006]Youse dudes with text apps on your regular phone to use for hobbying are just plain crazy, IMHO. Dude I met through here had an app like that layered on his phone and one day he got busted by the SO because of it.

Not everything works like you think it should. Dude would call me, but when he switched cells (towers) and the connection dropped, phone would reconnect using the real number and not the app number! Go figure. So you want a SW or STG girl to find your real name, etc. ? Then one day SO wanted to borrow his phone. You gunna say no to that when 'she who must be obeyed' asks? Denying such will get suspicion up right away. Anyway, one of his honeys called and SO answered. You can guess the rest.

So best bet is a burner phone with an app layered on top of that! You can always toss a burner in the Delaware when things get too hot, but you ain't doing that with your regular phone.

OP has it right you gots to invest in the hobby! It certainly IS cheaper than an attorney or black mail.[/QUOTE]All just depends on your situation. My SO never touches my phone and vice versa. We are really strict about it, just as a matter of respect. But we switch cars based on who is driving where and who isn't, and she's a cleaning fanatic who loves to rearrange furniture and shit. So there's actually a bigger risk of her finding a second phone than finding the app that I have on my phone with all notifications turned off (I turn them on when actively hunting only), buried in a folder, and with most of the names saved as the same names as my friends.

A buddy of mine found out his wife was meeting up with her old high school boyfriend and getting plowed in various motels simply by picking up her phone one day and looking through her messages.

As far as cellphones, if your SO is capable, just having physical access to your phone you can do a lot depending on what you want.

If your phone isn't password protected they can install a hidden app that will send all text and other information to their personal phone in real time so they can see who you're talking to. If you have a password on your phone they can use a device that LE uses that will plug into your phone that will just download / copy everything and they can go through the files / text messages to find anything incriminating just like LE. I believe it was made just for that purpose for border security when people refused to unlock their phones.

I doubt any SO is going through all this though and buying some device for one time use. Much easier to:

1. Hire a private investor.

2. Install some type of GPS tracking device on your car.

3 Discretely put a voice activated microphone in your vehicle.

[QUOTE=Lance547;5231528]A buddy of mine found out his wife was meeting up with her old high school boyfriend and getting plowed in various motels simply by picking up her phone one day and looking through her messages.

As far as cellphones, if your SO is capable, just having physical access to your phone you can do a lot depending on what you want.

If your phone isn't password protected they can install a hidden app that will send all text and other information to their personal phone in real time so they can see who you're talking to. If you have a password on your phone they can use a device that LE uses that will plug into your phone that will just download / copy everything and they can go through the files / text messages to find anything incriminating just like LE. I believe it was made just for that purpose for border security when people refused to unlock their phones.

I doubt any SO is going through all this though and buying some device for one time use. Much easier to:

1. Hire a private investor.

2. Install some type of GPS tracking device on your car.

3 Discretely put a voice activated microphone in your vehicle.[/QUOTE]Very true. If SO wants to dig hard enough they will probably find out.

My problem is I would probably have the extra cell found before the app. As said earlier it's deep in other folders with bloat ware. It must be something already in the cell. "wink wink". Also I erase everything after business is done.

So my issue is my Samsung Verizon just updated its security. Great right. But now TextNow doesn't work. I redown loaded TextNow. Which is now working somewhat. Its only wifi now. App says it need me to copy IICID. And it will work with out wifi. Which is probably the Sim card info. The other issues is the app itself is very invasive with wanting permission to almost everything. I always shut it down and turn it all off after using app. But Now the Sim card info. So now the extra Cell maybe a better option or a better text app that hides cell number. I was just wondering anyone using an app that works great even if it's a couple dollars a month. Though. The new bill maybe another thing that I would have to explain if found. Thanks, guys for your inputs.

So I'm like 2+ weeks into this 3rd try with a sugar baby site. This time Seeking Arrangements. I've hooked up with 2 women so far. One is definitely an escort and per DMs I got "high volume" for a UTR. Good though, great in the sack. Seen her 2 x, 2nd time at my place for MSOG. Just saw a second. Legit civilian (pretty sure? Went to her place. Hung out, got invited upstairs. All bare, no CIP. Got some stuff in common so promising. Negotiated the money AFTER. Seriously.

A couple of thoughts:

1) my goal was to get 2-3 woman reasonably close that I can see regularly. 2-3 to hedge for the instability. 2 weeks in and that looks like mission accomplished. Got another lined up in a few days.

2) it's fucking work. Honestly. Really time consuming to have enough lines in the water to get the nibbles to land the fish. Hard to sustain. For me personally partly b / c I'm more of an introvert so chatting up strangers is stressful. Anyway, if you pay the money commit to put in the time.

3) you can definitely get laid. Two weeks and trying to work it and I've found 2 that I've actually seen, probably 2 more that were legit possibilities (ppm escorts, I just couldn't make it happen logistically).

4) the skills you learn sniffing out fakes and scams on StG or similar sites are transferable. That chick that looks like Barbie with a boob job is just as fake on SA as StG.

(Cross posted in Philly Sugar blog below as well).

So I'm at the end of my month. I have to say it was a success although like many things in life you get out of it what you put into it. Takes work and persistence. I've seen 3 woman (2 2 x each and 1 just for lunch) and another I'm texting with and am told by others in the Philly Sugar blog that she's available. So assuming my upcoming 'date' with the lunch woman goes well and assuming I can get with the 4th, I hit my goal of meeting 3-4 woman, all relatively local (suburbs). A couple of notes:

1) Moving to texts and then asking to meet does shake out the bullshit.

2) I don't think any are hard drug users. A couple of years into this, and watching someone slowly die last year, this is big for me.

3) 1 of the 4 (at least) is just a UTR but legit escort.

4) Prices are higher (200-300) but the 4 times we got together (2 different women) it was in my place or hers (hotel once) for 2-3 hours with longer session. 2 were MSOG. I've heard of women asking $500-$700/ meet but I didn't see that. I also didn't click on the chicks that look like Barbie.

5) One, I think, is really a legit civilian. Has her own place, FT job etc. I think she might just be in it for the dick. The first time I went over we went upstairs before we even set a price.

6) I think there's definitely bots and scammers out there and you get a lot of interest from Venezuela, Russia, England etc. Those are all easy to avoid. I think the bigger issue is some women aren't serious about ass for cash and are just on there hoping someone just gives them money. The skills you learn sniffing out the scams on StG or the other escort sites are transferable.

All in all, worth it for the $90 especially if I can keep these 4 in the mix. My plan is to have one be a weekly regular and the rest will be semi-regular, like a time or two a month. I'm cancelling my membership before it renews.

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5234939]So I'm like 2+ weeks into this 3rd try with a sugar baby site. This time Seeking Arrangements. I've hooked up with 2 women so far. One is definitely an escort and per DMs I got "high volume" for a UTR. Good though, great in the sack. Seen her 2 x, 2nd time at my place for MSOG. Just saw a second. Legit civilian (pretty sure? Went to her place. Hung out, got invited upstairs. All bare, no CIP. Got some stuff in common so promising. Negotiated the money AFTER. Seriously.

A couple of thoughts:

1) my goal was to get 2-3 woman reasonably close that I can see regularly. 2-3 to hedge for the instability. 2 weeks in and that looks like mission accomplished. Got another lined up in a few days.

2) it's fucking work. Honestly. Really time consuming to have enough lines in the water to get the nibbles to land the fish. Hard to sustain. For me personally partly b / c I'm more of an introvert so chatting up strangers is stressful. Anyway, if you pay the money commit to put in the time.

3) you can definitely get laid. Two weeks and trying to work it and I've found 2 that I've actually seen, probably 2 more that were legit possibilities (ppm escorts, I just couldn't make it happen logistically).

4) the skills you learn sniffing out fakes and scams on StG or similar sites are transferable. That chick that looks like Barbie with a boob job is just as fake on SA as StG.[/QUOTE]

Many thanks JTerry26 for taking the time to relate your experiences in an area I and probably many others have no clue of what to expect.

Have been tempted to try this route and with what you have shown, it looks good.

If I go there I will follow your example and post my adventures. TT.

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5247803](Cross posted in Philly Sugar blog below as well).

So I'm at the end of my month. I have to say it was a success although like many things in life you get out of it what you put into it. Takes work and persistence. I've seen 3 woman (2 2 x each and 1 just for lunch) and another I'm texting with and am told by others in the Philly Sugar blog that she's available. So assuming my upcoming 'date' with the lunch woman goes well and assuming I can get with the 4th, I hit my goal of meeting 3-4 woman, all relatively local (suburbs). A couple of notes.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I am on WYP and SA at this time and was in the past also with possible ladies but didn't pay and eventually deleted both. This time I decided to try this route instead of my years with escorts. Things are dead with escorts now. Guess cause they getting stimulus checks and extra money for unemployment. That shit stops and I think we will all get busy again. Anyways, I had more luck this time with WYP On messages so paid fee for credits and crossed my fingers. I agree about using skills to catch fakes like on STG. I am talking with one now and another soon I believe. I will push for text and meet as you say to help eliminate BS. Stay safe.

[QUOTE=Dave1414;5247907]Thanks for the info. I am on WYP and SA at this time and was in the past also with possible ladies but didn't pay and eventually deleted both. This time I decided to try this route instead of my years with escorts. Things are dead with escorts now. Guess cause they getting stimulus checks and extra money for unemployment. That shit stops and I think we will all get busy again. Anyways, I had more luck this time with WYP On messages so paid fee for credits and crossed my fingers. I agree about using skills to catch fakes like on STG. I am talking with one now and another soon I believe. I will push for text and meet as you say to help eliminate BS. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]What's WYP?

[QUOTE=Merge1;5252896]What's WYP?[/QUOTE]What's Your Price.

[QUOTE=Merge1;5252896]What's WYP?[/QUOTE]Whatsyourpricedotcom.

[QUOTE=Merge1;5252896]What's WYP?[/QUOTE]What's Your Price? WYP. Me, I'm just an 'OL Gator.

Many thanks to JTerry26 for taking the time to share his stroll down the Sugar Highway. I pretty much agree 100% with his findings and experiences. It does take some digging, skills and finesse to sort out the pros, scammers. Users, BS. I have found it helpful to do your due diligence and above all trust your gut. The times I have ignored the red or even yellow flags have been drama filled. I have been on WYP, SA and even AM. I have found SA to be not the best but at least better chances of a legit connection. Occasionally also had some luck on Tinder too, but that slow going there. These tough COVID times definitely require some extra creativity and resourcefulness.

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5247803](Cross posted in Philly Sugar blog below as well).

So I'm at the end of my month. I have to say it was a success although like many things in life you get out of it what you put into it. Takes work and persistence. I've seen 3 woman (2 2 x each and 1 just for lunch) and another I'm texting with and am told by others in the Philly Sugar blog that she's available. So assuming my upcoming 'date' with the lunch woman goes well and assuming I can get with the 4th, I hit my goal of meeting 3-4 woman, all relatively local (suburbs). A couple of notes:

1) Moving to texts and then asking to meet does shake out the bullshit.

2) I don't think any are hard drug users. A couple of years into this, and watching someone slowly die last year, this is big for me.

3) 1 of the 4 (at least) is just a UTR but legit escort.

4) Prices are higher (200-300) but the 4 times we got together (2 different women) it was in my place or hers (hotel once) for 2-3 hours with longer session. 2 were MSOG. I've heard of women asking $500-$700/ meet but I didn't see that. I also didn't click on the chicks that look like Barbie.

5) One, I think, is really a legit civilian. Has her own place, FT job etc. I think she might just be in it for the dick. The first time I went over we went upstairs before we even set a price.

6) I think there's definitely bots and scammers out there and you get a lot of interest from Venezuela, Russia, England etc. Those are all easy to avoid. I think the bigger issue is some women aren't serious about ass for cash and are just on there hoping someone just gives them money. The skills you learn sniffing out the scams on StG or the other escort sites are transferable.

All in all, worth it for the $90 especially if I can keep these 4 in the mix. My plan is to have one be a weekly regular and the rest will be semi-regular, like a time or two a month. I'm cancelling my membership before it renews.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Merge1;5252896]What's WYP?[/QUOTE]I dd that years ago, what a scam. You have to pay for credits and cannot see a girl's details until you spend credits to make her and offer. Oh and girls will send offers or something, all to get you to burn through your credits and buy more. After all, all the site has to sell are credits, so.

The worst part is that there are all kinds of WARNINGS all over the site about P2 P being prohibited, sex should not be expected, you are paying for her time only. So it is VERY popular with girls who think they can eat your food and get free drinks at a fancy place and get paid to do it! I mean, you know the number of lakes you get with SA, so the same there, but you credits are gone, buy more. Then when you do get a girl to reply, she wants $300 to have drinks or she demands dinner at a 5-star restaurant.

So no idea why anyone plays that game. But I guess there must be a bunch of dweebs who can't get a girl and are willing to pay hundred to pay for her dinner, or it wouldn't work.

[QUOTE=Runner8;5253775]Many thanks to JTerry26 for taking the time to share his stroll down the Sugar Highway. I pretty much agree 100% with his findings and experiences. It does take some digging, skills and finesse to sort out the pros, scammers. Users, BS. I have found it helpful to do your due diligence and above all trust your gut. The times I have ignored the red or even yellow flags have been drama filled. I have been on WYP, SA and even AM. I have found SA to be not the best but at least better chances of a legit connection. Occasionally also had some luck on Tinder too, but that slow going there. These tough COVID times definitely require some extra creativity and resourcefulness.[/QUOTE]I had Tinder going at the same time. I didn't pay as much attention to it, so effort in / results out matters, but I found it frustrating and pointless. One, I kept trying to limit the ages to under 40 but it kept recommending women 50+. It also did a poor job with keeping the recommendations close by*. As things picked up with SA I barely looked at it and then I deleted it a week early. Maybe there's some Tinder how-to that would make it more useful. I suspect you have to do the upgrades and whatnot to get real action.

*Same goes for SA. You get interest from all over the country and the world. You should be able to not only set your search parameters by miles away, but also block interest outside of your specified radius. I really DGAF if 3 women in Venezuela want to meet me.

Big Thanks to JTerry26 for sharing his experiences.

It would be great to hear how it works out for you Texaco Tim.

I signed up for both WYP and SA. I'm leaning towards SA. I am kind of waiting for my Covid vaccine first, also to have the time to put into this.

The escort business has been frustrating. With some with bad drug habits. Sometimes changing times to meet or the ghosting. Up selling. The lack of quality. The shady side of the business.

So any Info from these other ways to connect with women who enjoy sexual encounters will be very helpful.