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[QUOTE=WhiskeyPete;7131062]Is Stone Spa closed for good?[/QUOTE]Stone is closed for good. Fortunately, Louisville has a great AMP scene compared to other cities. I'm going to focus on stress away and empire. Hoping to find an UTR asian provider that's into showering together and a regular connection.
[QUOTE=TopGunFun;7132565]Stone is closed for good. Fortunately, Louisville has a great AMP scene compared to other cities. I'm going to focus on stress away and empire. Hoping to find an UTR asian provider that's into showering together and a regular connection.[/QUOTE]Darn, Stone was my favorite. Someone a few posts down said Empire is closed, do you know anything about that?
Sounds like Sun is out of commission for renovation. Our options are dwindling for now. I don't know much about the place on Preston near the Watterson Expressway or the one on Poplar Level across from St. X. Still seems odd to put a spa across the street from one of the wealthiest, most politically connected high schools in the city.
[QUOTE=WhiskeyPete;7132574]Darn, Stone was my favorite. Someone a few posts down said Empire is closed, do you know anything about that?
Sounds like Sun is out of commission for renovation. Our options are dwindling for now. I don't know much about the place on Preston near the Watterson Expressway or the one on Poplar Level across from St. X. Still seems odd to put a spa across the street from one of the wealthiest, most politically connected high schools in the city.[/QUOTE]Empire has been closed since Labor Day.
An undercover police officer accompanied by a female officer in uniform with the police car have been closing shops down as part of a sweep for about a month. No arrests but have been told they are not legally able to operate due to issues with massage therapy licensing. They are now not allowing body rubs or relaxation sessions as terminology either. They have gotten Stone, Empire, Stress Away, Far East, and Suns amongst others. Stone closed. Empire closed. Stress Away closed and reopened so they will probably be hit again. And Far East is now illegally operating with the open sign off. Other closures will be coming. If they want to stay open they need to find services they can offer that doesn't have an ordinance to follow. Things like cuddle sessions, guided meditation, Reiki, and reflexology are still legal without a license. The officer or detective is young, medium height, slender, blonde hair, blue eyes, and has a messed up tooth in front. The female is going with long brown hair and brown eyes. And yes they are asking clients questions about the services. So far no arrests have been made and no IDs have been checked. They are just demanding closure for offering massage without a license. Even though they stopped using the word massage years ago. There will be more closures and open places that have been shut down once already will be revisited. They will only be able to stay open if they offer something they don't need a license for. Don't be surprised or alarmed if you see different services being offered instead of massage. And don't be surprised if you are turned away for asking for a massage or body rub. AMPs aren't exactly full of legal citizens and nobody wants to get arrested and possibly deported. The industry is changing again just like it did 15 years ago. Roll with the changes.
[QUOTE=MisterFishy;7132705]An undercover police officer accompanied by a female officer in uniform with the police car have been closing shops down as part of a sweep for about a month. No arrests but have been told they are not legally able to operate due to issues with massage therapy licensing. They are now not allowing body rubs or relaxation sessions as terminology either. They have gotten Stone, Empire, Stress Away, Far East, and Suns amongst others. Stone closed. Empire closed. Stress Away closed and reopened so they will probably be hit again. And Far East is now illegally operating with the open sign off. Other closures will be coming. If they want to stay open they need to find services they can offer that doesn't have an ordinance to follow. Things like cuddle sessions, guided meditation, Reiki, and reflexology are still legal without a license. The officer or detective is young, medium height, slender, blonde hair, blue eyes, and has a messed up tooth in front. The female is going with long brown hair and brown eyes. And yes they are asking clients questions about the services. So far no arrests have been made and no IDs have been checked. They are just demanding closure for offering massage without a license. Even though they stopped using the word massage years ago. There will be more closures and open places that have been shut down once already will be revisited. They will only be able to stay open if they offer something they don't need a license for. Don't be surprised or alarmed if you see different services being offered instead of massage..[/QUOTE]Sun Spa wasn't closed by LEO. Closed for construction. I was told they should be open by the end of the week. Just FYI.
[QUOTE=TopGunFun;7132565]Stone is closed for good. Fortunately, Louisville has a great AMP scene compared to other cities. I'm going to focus on stress away and empire. Hoping to find an UTR asian provider that's into showering together and a regular connection.[/QUOTE]Don't count them out just yet. Unlike the others approached by LEO, they're being cautious and staying closed of their own volition while they get their ducks in a row. And, I was told several of the places asked LEO for a court order, which he didn't have, and they told him they wouldn't close and to get off the property, and he left. Supposedly, one of these places was Relaxation Station. Maybe LEO needs a court order to really force closures and maybe they don't, but it seems a bit much that a detective could have the authority to randomly go to these businesses and demand them to close with nothing more in hand than a packet of information about the KY state massage licensing laws. This dragnet seems like more of a warning and an intimation tactic, seems to be based on advertisement, and it's only coming from the LMPD 6th district (at least at this time.). I happened to see the packet they've been giving and I didn't see anything about Relaxation in it, so it would seem LEO doesn't have the authority to say Relaxation requires a license if it doesn't say it in the statues; but, I'm not an expert and just speculating about that. Maybe they are assuming Relaxation includes some form of touching or massage, so it's being included. Like it was said in another review, there's more to come on this issue. I assume, if LEO has to get court orders he will need evidence of wrong doing, which could mean lengthy and costly investigations, so he wants to take the easy way out if possible.
You would think that LEO would have more to do with their time that target places that do not harm anyone. How realistic would it be for these ladies to actually get licensed so they don't have to skirt around these stupid laws? (The American places).
[QUOTE=MisterFishy;7132705]An undercover police officer accompanied by a female officer in uniform with the police car have been closing shops down as part of a sweep for about a month. No arrests but have been told they are not legally able to operate due to issues with massage therapy licensing. They are now not allowing body rubs or relaxation sessions as terminology either. They have gotten Stone, Empire, Stress Away, Far East, and Suns amongst others. Stone closed. Empire closed. Stress Away closed and reopened so they will probably be hit again. And Far East is now illegally operating with the open sign off. Other closures will be coming. If they want to stay open they need to find services they can offer that doesn't have an ordinance to follow. Things like cuddle sessions, guided meditation, Reiki, and reflexology are still legal without a license. The officer or detective is young, medium height, slender, blonde hair, blue eyes, and has a messed up tooth in front. The female is going with long brown hair and brown eyes. And yes they are asking clients questions about the services. So far no arrests have been made and no IDs have been checked. They are just demanding closure for offering massage without a license. Even though they stopped using the word massage years ago. There will be more closures and open places that have been shut down once already will be revisited. They will only be able to stay open if they offer something they don't need a license for. Don't be surprised or alarmed if you see different services being offered instead of massage. And don't be surprised if you are turned away for asking for a massage or body rub. AMPs aren't exactly full of legal citizens and nobody wants to get arrested and possibly deported. The industry is changing again just like it did 15 years ago. Roll with the changes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GoodOne6969;7133248]Don't count them out just yet. Unlike the others approached by LEO, they're being cautious and staying closed of their own volition while they get their ducks in a row. And, I was told several of the places asked LEO for a court order, which he didn't have, and they told him they wouldn't close and to get off the property, and he left. Supposedly, one of these places was Relaxation Station. Maybe LEO needs a court order to really force closures and maybe they don't, but it seems a bit much that a detective could have the authority to randomly go to these businesses and demand them to close with nothing more in hand than a packet of information about the KY state massage licensing laws. This dragnet seems like more of a warning and an intimation tactic, seems to be based on advertisement, and it's only coming from the LMPD 6th district (at least at this time.). I happened to see the packet they've been giving and I didn't see anything about Relaxation in it, so it would seem LEO doesn't have the authority to say Relaxation requires a license if it doesn't say it in the statues; but, I'm not an expert and just speculating about that. Maybe they are assuming Relaxation includes some form of touching or massage, so it's being included. Like it was said in another review, there's more to come on this issue. I assume, if LEO has to get court orders he will need evidence of wrong doing, which could mean lengthy and costly investigations, so he wants to take the easy way out if possible.[/QUOTE][URL]https://bmt.ky.gov/Documents/Laws%20and%20Regulations%20Booklet.pdf[/URL]
Looks like Indiana AMPs about to get busy.
[QUOTE=C6DM2;7133390]You would think that LEO would have more to do with their time that target places that do not harm anyone. How realistic would it be for these ladies to actually get licensed so they don't have to skirt around these stupid laws? (The American places).[/QUOTE]There are three spots in St. Matthews which may have licensed ladies. All three keep on the down low due to the neighborhood and may escape LEO scrutiny.
[QUOTE=C6DM2;7133390]You would think that LEO would have more to do with their time that target places that do not harm anyone. How realistic would it be for these ladies to actually get licensed so they don't have to skirt around these stupid laws? (The American places).[/QUOTE]This seems like it all started with Empire shutting down. Something happened there, then led to these other places being targeted. I was told by a lady at Far East, right after they opened. She made the comment about how women / wives / girlfriends, don't like the men going to these places. Made me think a husband got caught, and it may involved LEO. Just a hunch, I really don't know.
No matter the reason, it does seem like they are all in a certain area of town. There's many, many more AMPs that aren't messed with. So the whole thing doesn't make sense.
I would be willing to bet that some law maker's husband was caught going to those places, and now she is out to shut them all down. LOL.
If Danielle (Relaxation Station) and some of the other body rub establishments were smart, they would start doing outcall for other services like she mentioned (cuddle sessions, scratching sessions, etc). Then while they are in the private home of the client, they could work something out. I think that would be harder for LEO to shut down, than a brick-and-mortar building.
Many years ago, one of the places on Preston would give a Password of the month to their regular clients, so that when they came in and gave the trusted password, they got the extra services. I thought that was pretty smart. I have not seen that tactic used since then.
[QUOTE=AmpMan2023;7134339]This seems like it all started with Empire shutting down. Something happened there, then led to these other places being targeted. I was told by a lady at Far East, right after they opened. She made the comment about how women / wives / girlfriends, don't like the men going to these places. Made me think a husband got caught, and it may involved LEO. Just a hunch, I really don't know.
No matter the reason, it does seem like they are all in a certain area of town. There's many, many more AMPs that aren't messed with. So the whole thing doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=C6DM2;7133390]You would think that LEO would have more to do with their time that target places that do not harm anyone. How realistic would it be for these ladies to actually get licensed so they don't have to skirt around these stupid laws? (The American places).[/QUOTE]Licensure means legal I'd's and visa's. I'm not trying to imply that these ladies aren't in the states legally, but it would certainly add a level of scrutiny that I don't think these providers would welcome.
Yes, the Asian places would probably not be able to get them. That is why I said.
[QUOTE=C6DM2;7134447](The American places)[/QUOTE]If they were able to get licensed, that might make it more difficult to shut them down. Might be something they could look into (RS, Churchill, CeCe's place).
[QUOTE=Jabmb4;7134447]Licensure means legal I'd's and visa's. I'm not trying to imply that these ladies aren't in the states legally, but it would certainly add a level of scrutiny that I don't think these providers would welcome.[/QUOTE]
I went once when this place first opened, hottest young Asian I've ever met, nothing but a HJ then. I went day before yesterday. 2 older Asians reminded me of the old days, threw the mid 50's one, looks a tad younger red dress. Took me in decent massage. Then to the flip, dropped her dress ask me if I liked, nice body on her. Large b to c cup. , she got the clear wrap LOL, took a pounding for a min, good pussy on her. , as you know that shit don't hold up. Blew right thru it filled her little kitty up, she was full running out of her. She's gets her phone and asks me if I got her pregnant. I bust out laughing. , anyways cleaned up and left. Will go back and fill her up again.