General Reports

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5212938]It's only been a week but it seems promising. A couple of good leads including some really close by. I'm supposed to meet one tonight and another tomorrow and possibly a 3rd over the weekend. The 2nd one just looks like it's straight sex, I. E. We're meeting at a hotel. That said, big difference between a lead and getting laid and an even bigger difference between getting laid and getting a reasonable (price, not crazy) regular.[/QUOTE]Wow sounds very promising. Do you have any tips on what to say. As I heard of some guys complaining of being banned because they might have said something that refers to paid sex. Also what kind of funds are these girls asking. I'm sure its different from each girl but they maybe some tips on how this is all approached. My luck I would pay for the sites service to communicate and then get banned. LOL.

[QUOTE=JDRedBull;5214463]Wow sounds very promising. Do you have any tips on what to say. As I heard of some guys complaining of being banned because they might have said something that refers to paid sex. Also what kind of funds are these girls asking. I'm sure its different from each girl but they maybe some tips on how this is all approached. My luck I would pay for the sites service to communicate and then get banned. LOL.[/QUOTE]This is my approach this time. Keep in mind it has yielded ZERO actual results (me getting my wick wet) yet so YMMV:

1) focus search on nearby and recently active or new.

2) like a ton of women, mostly close by but also in Philly.

3) for like 10-15 a day follow up with a message "hey, how's town x".

4) if I get a response move quickly to "let's switch to texting" and when texting to "let's meet for a drink or dinner" and set something up ASAP. My theory here is a good bot can banter for weeks but it likely doesn't have a cell and can't show up at a bar. And if she doesn't want to meet, she's not interested in me personally or she's not actually into being a SB.

So I was supposed to meet someone 2 nights ago. Begged off (not feeling well) then disappeared. No responses to texts. The second was supposed to be tonight but we got 8-10" of snow. Have a bar meet for Sat and maybe another.

So again, zero actual results. Happy to get any advice, I've gotten at least one DM that was negative about SA.

[QUOTE=JDRedBull;5214463]Wow sounds very promising. Do you have any tips on what to say. As I heard of some guys complaining of being banned because they might have said something that refers to paid sex. Also what kind of funds are these girls asking. I'm sure its different from each girl but they maybe some tips on how this is all approached. My luck I would pay for the sites service to communicate and then get banned. LOL.[/QUOTE]There is a thread on the Philly boards on Sugar Dating, scroll down the list of threads to the user 'blog section', below the blue horizontal line.

There is a whole 'How To" section on what was the original SB board in Richmond, VA.

[B]Sugarbaby Thread Highlights, Index, and FAQ[/B]

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ[/URL]

Start at Post #1 There is a PhD level of info there on every imaginable aspect of Sugar Dating. Take it piece by piece. Also the guys in VA are open to outsiders posting there and asking technique questions. Guys from around the country add their expertise there.

[QUOTE=JDRedBull;5214463]Wow sounds very promising. Do you have any tips on what to say. As I heard of some guys complaining of being banned because they might have said something that refers to paid sex. Also what kind of funds are these girls asking. I'm sure its different from each girl but they maybe some tips on how this is all approached. My luck I would pay for the sites service to communicate and then get banned. LOL.[/QUOTE]Just wanted to put my 2 in here.

I've been a member of WYP, SA, and SB for sometime now. Haven't paid for SA, did a couple rounds of credits on SB, with "a little" success.

First, there's all kinds on there. Pros, girls who have never met up (beginners), girls NOT looking to meet up (want to sell pics), bots, and real high end SB'S. The bots are generally (with an experienced eye) simple to weed out. If you're getting a message from a beauty in Brazil or California or Texas and you haven't looked at that profile (they get a message when you do), many times a bot.

I think the best approach, if you're concerned about being banned for saying the wrong thing is to make simple chat and quickly take it off site,(email, phone, text, kik, or other messenger) as with JT's technique. Most times, a couple simple messages and you can accomplish this quickly. From THERE, it's up to you to weed them out further and determine who or what it is you are chatting / talking to and what they are looking for and what they are willing to do.

As luck would have it, the first girl I decided to message back, we REALLY hit it off and 2-3 years later I have YET to find any better! With that being said, I managed a couple of meets with others with a SO-SO percentage of "happy endings". A few hook ups, and a few successes, but nothing really significant, with the exception of my current baby, who was, like I said, the first one I messaged.

Sugar dating IS similar to p4 p, however it involves much more work, and the girls do not wish to feel like they are having sex for money, but rather (the term they always use) "being spoiled". It's more about a serious connection and chemistry between the two of you and once you have THAT, MUCH can be accomplished. Like I said, MUCH more work involved vs "provider dating" but for those seeking more of a GFE and more serious connection, I would think it to be the way to go.

I haven't seen any of the high end girls or ones that won't negotiate to a reasonable price, so I can't speak on them, but, many will start with very high prices (esp girls who have never met) but after a bit of banter and chat, will generally come to their senses.

Sorry for the really long winded post, but as I started, more and more info kept coming to mind, and now we have a war and peace novel, but hopefully it can prove helpful to some.

Good luck to all, have fun, and be careful!

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5215110]There is a thread on the Philly boards on Sugar Dating, scroll down the list of threads to the user 'blog section', below the blue horizontal line.

There is a whole 'How To" section on what was the original SB board in Richmond, VA.

[B]Sugarbaby Thread Highlights, Index, and FAQ[/B]

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ[/URL]

Start at Post #1 There is a PhD level of info there on every imaginable aspect of Sugar Dating. Take it piece by piece. Also the guys in VA are open to outsiders posting there and asking technique questions. Guys from around the country add their expertise there.[/QUOTE]See, there is ALWAYS more to be learned. As I type my huge post, shampoo adds another spot to get further edgeumicated. Thanks! Will certainly check out that link!

Good luck, have fun, and be careful.

[QUOTE=PPJones;5215159]See, there is ALWAYS more to be learned. As I type my huge post, shampoo adds another spot to get further edgeumicated. Thanks! Will certainly check out that link!

Good luck, have fun, and be careful.[/QUOTE]Big thanks to all you guys for the info. Seriously much appreciated. Save time and money. I'm looking forward to hearing from your adventures good or bad.

[QUOTE=WookieWonka;5207543]I think I'm going to go hit up BNA in NJ to see if any couples or single females show up then after 4 or 5 pm go hit up the Playhouse or maybe an AMP but I get the feeling AMPs might be extra busy today.[/QUOTE]Didn't realize BNA had reopened.

After having to reschedule I saw my first woman from SA tonight. Met for drinks. 20-something, turns out she's living back at home so I got a hotel. Real great GFE experience. Really took her time, BBBJ w dt, daty, like 5 different positions. All great. Couldn't cum. She goes back to BBBJ. Not happening. Probably like 30 minutes in at this point.

So we just lounge, talk, snuggle etc. I get back on her after like 20 minutes (she's laying flat) and I cum (cip) in like 10 strokes. Go figure. Heh. So we met at 6, were at the hotel by like 7:30 and left around 9:20.

Anyway, great experience. Hotel was an unanticipated expense but she said she'd come to my place next time. Worth it.

[QUOTE=PPJones;5215149]Just wanted to put my 2 in here.

I've been a member of WYP, SA, and SB for sometime now. Haven't paid for SA, did a couple rounds of credits on SB, with "a little" success.

First, there's all kinds on there. Pros, girls who have never met up (beginners), girls NOT looking to meet up (want to sell pics), bots, and real high end SB'S. The bots are generally (with an experienced eye) simple to weed out. If you're getting a message from a beauty in Brazil or California or Texas and you haven't looked at that profile (they get a message when you do), many times a bot.

I think the best approach, if you're concerned about being banned for saying the wrong thing is to make simple chat and quickly take it off site,(email, phone, text, kik, or other messenger) as with JT's technique. Most times, a couple simple messages and you can accomplish this quickly. From THERE, it's up to you to weed them out further and determine who or what it is you are chatting / talking to and what they are looking for and what they are willing to do.

As luck would have it, the first girl I decided to message back, we REALLY hit it off and 2-3 years later I have YET to find any better! With that being said, I managed a couple of meets with others with a SO-SO percentage of "happy endings". A few hook ups, and a few successes, but nothing really significant, with the exception of my current baby, who was, like I said, the first one I messaged.

Sugar dating IS similar to p4 p, however it involves much more work, and the girls do not wish to feel like they are having sex for money, but rather (the term they always use) "being spoiled". It's more about a serious connection and chemistry between the two of you and once you have THAT, MUCH can be accomplished. Like I said, MUCH more work involved vs "provider dating" but for those seeking more of a GFE and more serious connection, I would think it to be the way to go.

I haven't seen any of the high end girls or ones that won't negotiate to a reasonable price, so I can't speak on them, but, many will start with very high prices (esp girls who have never met) but after a bit of banter and chat, will generally come to their senses.

Sorry for the really long winded post, but as I started, more and more info kept coming to mind, and now we have a war and peace novel, but hopefully it can prove helpful to some.

Good luck to all, have fun, and be careful![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JTerry26;5219578]After having to reschedule I saw my first woman from SA tonight. Met for drinks. 20-something, turns out she's living back at home so I got a hotel. Real great GFE experience. Really took her time, BBBJ w dt, daty, like 5 different positions. All great. Couldn't cum. She goes back to BBBJ. Not happening. Probably like 30 minutes in at this point.

So we just lounge, talk, snuggle etc. I get back on her after like 20 minutes (she's laying flat) and I cum (cip) in like 10 strokes. Go figure. Heh. So we met at 6, were at the hotel by like 7:30 and left around 9:20.

Anyway, great experience. Hotel was an unanticipated expense but she said she'd come to my place next time. Worth it.[/QUOTE]Very glad to hear a success story. See so many negative stories, it's refreshing. Glad you had a good time!

I've had success several times with Tinder. I live in a small college town, and the girls aren't great with managing their money. They eventually start looking for a daddy to help out. Also, frustrated mommies are on there that just want to feel pretty again.

[QUOTE=PPJones;5219580]Very glad to hear a success story. See so many negative stories, it's refreshing. Glad you had a good time![/QUOTE]I also got some feedback from her about how I made the cut:

1) I was polite in my intro, bantered back and forth. Treated her with respect.

2) I didn't ask for her hidden photo right away and after getting that didn't badger her for more.

3) I had good spelling and punctuation (Didn't expect that one. I think she saw it as a sign of maturity and respect (take the time to write correctly).

4) Moved quickly to text and then to meeting. Guess the women have the same incentives to cut through the bs and bots to men who are serious.

5) Didn't get all explicit or whatnot, was comfortable with ambiguity.

She said after that the pre-meet doesn't always go well and if it doesn't she just leaves so there was some screening by her over drinks as well. Lastly, and I hope I'm not wrong here, but she legit appears to be a UTR provider that's in it because of the economy and job prospects, not b / c of drugs. I really hope that's true.

So we'll see, going to try to make it a regular thing.

I have been using Text Now app on an android cell. It let you use a different number, which is good. I don't need anyone sending me messages at the wrong time. Or when kids or family decide to root through the cell phone. It has worked OK. Sometimes the texts are delayed.

Now it's not been working right. I sent a text and I see I received a notice for a text back. When I open the app it's gone. It screwed up two meetings today. So I may just get a cheap throw away cell. Any suggestions for better app that hides your number or a low usage cell phone plan?

[QUOTE=JDRedBull;5229005]I have been using Text Now app on an android cell. It let you use a different number, which is good. I don't need anyone sending me messages at the wrong time. Or when kids or family decide to root through the cell phone. It has worked OK. Sometimes the texts are delayed.

Now it's not been working right. I sent a text and I see I received a notice for a text back. When I open the app it's gone. It screwed up two meetings today. So I may just get a cheap throw away cell. Any suggestions for better app that hides your number or a low usage cell phone plan?[/QUOTE]I got a burner phone for $20, bought minutes for $20 for 3 months so my total annual outlay to maintain a burner phone is $100. The problem is that it takes all day to text with it because its a flip phone, not a smart phone. So I keep it for those providers I strictly call.

Then I got a Text now app for texting purposes. The downfall is that you don't the responses in real time so you don't know if the provider is responding or not. Then I switched to Google # and that works the best. But it does require a hot spot since it is strictly WIFI based. Since I have that for business, it works well.

Bottom line, I don't like to spend more than I have to but for safety and prying eyes, don't be afraid to invest in your hobby. It goes without saying, its cheaper than a divorce lawyer.

[QUOTE=JDRedBull;5229005]I have been using Text Now app on an android cell. It let you use a different number, which is good. I don't need anyone sending me messages at the wrong time. Or when kids or family decide to root through the cell phone. It has worked OK. Sometimes the texts are delayed.

Now it's not been working right. I sent a text and I see I received a notice for a text back. When I open the app it's gone. It screwed up two meetings today. So I may just get a cheap throw away cell. Any suggestions for better app that hides your number or a low usage cell phone plan?[/QUOTE]Depends on the level of"security" you need, but I had a cheap burner from text now, that was actually pretty decent. Using a cheap lg with straight talk for the past yr or so, with no issues. My level of discretion may be lower than some OR most of the other fellas, though.

[QUOTE=JDRedBull;5229005]I have been using Text Now app on an android cell. It let you use a different number, which is good. I don't need anyone sending me messages at the wrong time. Or when kids or family decide to root through the cell phone. It has worked OK. Sometimes the texts are delayed.

Now it's not been working right. I sent a text and I see I received a notice for a text back. When I open the app it's gone. It screwed up two meetings today. So I may just get a cheap throw away cell. Any suggestions for better app that hides your number or a low usage cell phone plan?[/QUOTE]Youse dudes with text apps on your regular phone to use for hobbying are just plain crazy, IMHO. Dude I met through here had an app like that layered on his phone and one day he got busted by the SO because of it.

Not everything works like you think it should. Dude would call me, but when he switched cells (towers) and the connection dropped, phone would reconnect using the real number and not the app number! Go figure. So you want a SW or STG girl to find your real name, etc. ? Then one day SO wanted to borrow his phone. You gunna say no to that when 'she who must be obeyed' asks? Denying such will get suspicion up right away. Anyway, one of his honeys called and SO answered. You can guess the rest.

So best bet is a burner phone with an app layered on top of that! You can always toss a burner in the Delaware when things get too hot, but you ain't doing that with your regular phone.

OP has it right you gots to invest in the hobby! It certainly IS cheaper than an attorney or black mail.