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[QUOTE=CleveLoser;6041648]Our society is violent and exploitative. You want to end prostitution? As trite as it is, then find a way to end capitalism.

Otherwise there are a million things worse. At least these women are getting paid for their services rather than getting outright raped by cops and even inmates.
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/28/us/indiana-jail-rape-lawsuit.html[/URL]

[URL]https://nypost.com/2017/09/28/woman-claims-nypd-detectives-forced-her-to-perform-sex-acts/[/URL]

Again, your analysis of the situation is shallow and reductive. And in reality, prostitution on these boards is no more harmful and violent than fast food work, or farm work, where people are exploited and constantly threatened with homelessness or food insecurity if they don't adhere to the wims of their boss. These women actually have far more control of their situation and are compensated far better. And BTW, how many low level workers are exploited for sexual favors? Hell, how many more established women are?. Ask the women who work for Elon or Deshaun Watson.[/QUOTE]Can prostitution be dangerous? Sure. I will be the first to admit though I haven't seen much of that as a solely online monger, never been to an AMP in my life, never picked up a streetwalker. And at least in our small community here, most of us are solid dudes who would go out of our way to get any of the women we encounter out of a bad situation. At least I know I would. Some of us such as myself are nerdy guys, and in my case, while high functioning, I am legally retarded, which leads to me being misunderstood a lot of the time due to my at times poor communication skills, i can get often get points across a lot better in writing then talking. As a result, it took a while for me to come into my own and be more social, the hobby has helped me eke out an above average existence and a career through social skills I have learned through it. And I still have a way to go, I have cut back drastically on mongering because I do want to have a long term relationship again some day. But I will get there in time! Doesn't change the fact that I owe a lot to this game, and I wouldn't change anything that got me to this point in my life! The awesome women I've met, the banter on here, the dodging traps. Its all so awesome and kind of like a giant video game like the Oasis in the movie "Ready Player One. ". And when i do meet that woman that is perfect for me i will never forget all the good times on here and of course drop in every now and again. You have all helped me maintain my sanity, and I love all of you.

Just because a man is a monger, doesn't automatically make them a bad guy. Just like because a man is a minister, doesn't automatically make them a good guy! Its what you do with it that counts!

C92.

[QUOTE=CleveLoser;6041648]Our society is violent and exploitative. You want to end prostitution? As trite as it is, then find a way to end capitalism[/QUOTE]Casting the problem on "capitalism" is a ruse to avoid responsibility for engaging in sex for hire.

Without demand, the operation dries up.

That's where it starts and ends.

(Snip the rest).

In my opinion the only harm of prostitution we inflict on the hoochies is that we support their bad habits with cash.

So they might go buy some drugs or whatever with it.

However, I think it's just viewed so negatively because we give them a lot of money in that regard. Two hundred for a good looking skank is nothing to us to bust a nut but might mean the world to her so she wants more and more johns to support a lifestyle she can't afford in her financial circle.

So is it really us the customer being the issue or simply them living above their means from all the fuck money they bring in?

[QUOTE=Chunks92;6041670]Just because a man is a monger, doesn't automatically make them a bad guy[/QUOTE]It makes him someone who violates the law's prohibition of sex for hire.

[QUOTE=Chunks92;6041670]Its what you do with it that counts![/QUOTE]What counts is refraining from sex for hire.

Nothing exonerates violating the law.

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[QUOTE=Asmoth;6042089]So is it really us the customer being the issue or simply them living above their means from all the fuck money they bring in?[/QUOTE]The sex buyer is always the starting point.

The law is an ass. People want what people want, pussy or drugs or whatever. As long as they don't violate the personal property rights of others they should be able to get those things. Sustar, you are apparently one of those apologists for the government who say, "Well, its for your own good," or "Our elected representatives made that law so we should follow it. " Bullshit.

The issue here is liberty. The bottom line as far as I am concerned is that a person owns their own body and has the innate, inborn right to do with it what they please as long as they are not violating the personal property rights of other people. Regardless of whether or not its breaking the law. People have rights that the government doesn't recognize and that needs to change.

Cheech.

[QUOTE=SuStar;6042087]Casting the problem on "capitalism" is a ruse to avoid responsibility for engaging in sex for hire.

Without demand, the operation dries up.

That's where it starts and ends.

(Snip the rest).[/QUOTE]At an individual level, the person is responsible. Just like with poverty, obesity, drug use, drunk driving. Any single person can avoid or overcome those things. But when they become pervasive at a societal level, then it becomes clear that every person cannot and solutions other than "personal responsibility" and "law and order" would be more effective at reducing them. But here's a hint, people in charge have no desire to reduce them, and even people like yourself don't either.

[QUOTE=CleveLoser;6042177]At an individual level, the person is responsible. Just like with poverty, obesity, drug use, drunk driving. Any single person can avoid or overcome those things. But when they become pervasive at a societal level, then it becomes clear that every person cannot and solutions other than "personal responsibility" and "law and order" would be more effective at reducing them[/QUOTE]

Focus on interdicting the sex buyer goes a long way towards the larger amelioration, farther than you care to acknowledge.

Casting aspersions on others neither excuses your own culpability, nor mitigates the larger problem.

(Snip the rest).

[QUOTE=Cheech1;6042172]People want what people want, pussy or drugs or whatever. As long as they don't violate the personal property rights of others, they should be able to get those things[/QUOTE]Prostitution harms everyone.

[QUOTE=Cheech1;6042172]you are apparently one of those apologists for the government[/QUOTE]If you violate the law, you do so at your own peril.

[QUOTE=Cheech1;6042172]The issue here is liberty[/QUOTE]False.

[QUOTE=Cheech1;6042172]The bottom line is that a person owns their own body and has the innate, inborn right to do with it what they please as long as they are not violating the personal property rights of other people[/QUOTE]False.

[QUOTE=Cheech1;6042172]People have rights that the government doesn't recognize and that needs to change.[/QUOTE]False.

Get help.

[QUOTE=SuStar;6042108]The sex buyer is always the starting point.[/QUOTE]The sex buyer is not always the starting point. It's amazing how much you have gotten wrong, so far. Many opinions have been expressed by others and for you to claim they are false is simply absurd. They just don't share your opinion.

[QUOTE=SuStar;6042368]Focus on interdicting the sex buyer goes a long way towards the larger amelioration, farther than you care to acknowledge.

Casting aspersions on others neither excuses your own culpability, nor mitigates the larger problem.

(Snip the rest).[/QUOTE]The only person "mitigating" the larger problem is you. Your reductive argument only focusing on the demand is ignorant of the broader societal issues that motivate women to engage in such activities. By design there is a massive underclass that can only aspire to 10-15 $ per hour without any guarantees for health care, housing, or labor safety. Of course large numbers will prefer 200-300 per hour in the sex trade.

Further your assertion about "ameliorating" by focusing on the buyer does not actually go a long way. For years this focus has existed and yet there has been little reduction. Ofc this is nothing new as we have seen time and time again that prohibition does not work be it gambling, alcohol, weed, crack, fent, or pussy.

Focus on the root causes by providing for a minimum standard of living with access to addiction resources including alternate opioids and prostitution would be largely eradicated. Focus on criminalizing and you will only create more criminals.

Buying sex is exploitive behavior.

Buyers are sensitive to the risk of arrest, cite it as a barrier to sex buying, and stop buying sex in communities where they perceive a higher likelihood of arrest.

Arresting prostituted persons does nothing to deter buyers.

The very presence of prostituted persons is a direct response to demand, not the other way around.

Creating increasingly severe penalty structures for repeat buyers is recommended.

[URL]https://www.demandabolition.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Demand-Buyer-Report-July-2019.pdf[/URL]

The idea that legalizing or decriminalizing commercial sex would reduce its harms is a persistent myth.

Many claim if the sex trade were legal, regulated, and treated like any other profession, it would be safer.

But research suggests otherwise.

Countries that have legalized or decriminalized commercial sex often experience a surge in human trafficking, pimping, and other related crimes.

[URL]https://www.demandabolition.org/research/evidence-against-legalizing-prostitution/[/URL]

Can someone please get arrested so that we can talk about that and put an end to this utterly boring back and forth debate about prostitution in general?

[quote=tontomonger;6044862]can someone please get arrested so that we can talk about that and put an end to this utterly boring back and forth debate about prostitution in general?[/quote]thank you!

The act of selling sex is often not consensual.

Buyers should understand that many factors and vulnerabilities a pimp or trafficker, drug addiction, homelessness and past trauma, to name a few make consent from the seller unlikely.

Instead of rationalizing that the victim is voluntarily participating in this sexual exchange, a buyer should consider what likely led the seller to where she is today.

[URL]https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-244X-6-24[/URL]

[QUOTE=TontoMonger;6044862]. . . put an end to this utterly boring back and forth debate about prostitution in general?[/QUOTE]If it's boring you, then why do you read it?

Are you reading it to relieve guilt?

[URL]https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/signs-guilt[/URL]

[URL]https://medium.com/humanist-way/own-your-guilt-c5f30da94793[/URL]

[URL]https://www.healthline.com/health/boredom[/URL]#fa-qs.

[QUOTE=CleveLoser;6043396]The only person "mitigating" the larger problem is you[/QUOTE]False.

[QUOTE=CleveLoser;6043396]Only focusing on the demand is ignorant of the broader societal issues that motivate women to engage in such activities[/QUOTE]False.

[QUOTE=CleveLoser;6043396]There is a massive underclass. Large numbers will prefer 200-300 per hour in the sex trade[/QUOTE]False.

[QUOTE=CleveLoser;6043396]Focusing on the buyer does not actually go a long way[/QUOTE]False.

[QUOTE=CleveLoser;6043396]Focus on providing for a minimum standard of living and prostitution would be largely eradicated[/QUOTE]False.

[QUOTE=SuStar;6045278]The act of selling sex is often not consensual.

Buyers should understand that many factors and vulnerabilities a pimp or trafficker, drug addiction, homelessness and past trauma, to name a few make consent from the seller unlikely.

Instead of rationalizing that the victim is voluntarily participating in this sexual exchange, a buyer should consider what likely led the seller to where she is today.

[URL]https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-244X-6-24[/URL][/QUOTE]Are people disagreeing with that? Certainly it is a coercive and exploitative act. So is working at McDonalds and the vast majority of jobs.

[QUOTE=SuStar;6045278]The act of selling sex is often not consensual.

Buyers should understand that many factors and vulnerabilities a pimp or trafficker, drug addiction, homelessness and past trauma, to name a few make consent from the seller unlikely.

Instead of rationalizing that the victim is voluntarily participating in this sexual exchange, a buyer should consider what likely led the seller to where she is today.

[URL]https://bmcpsychiatry.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-244X-6-24[/URL][/QUOTE]In some of situations this may be true. But again, case by case basis. There several stories on here of being led back to a room by a possible "handler / pimp etc," and I would never partake in a situation like that, reminds me of the "Apartment 407" movie which what happened in that movie is abhorrent. A lot of the ladies have guys that look out for them without forcing them or even charging them. Hell, I personally would look out for completely free of charge if they were in a bad situation. There is a fine line between good and evil, and a lot of people do cross that line, but some of us do not. Unfortunately the legal system does not differentiate from that, once things move to "judge / administrative, pre trial, and trial," nothing matters besides "was a law broken, or not?" When it should be case by case basis, and they should throw out the cases where the guy was cautious enough to make sure he wasnt dealing with a victim and the lady wasnt forced.

I will say this, yeah, a lot of women in this game are damaged. But you know what? So are some of us, been fucked up by bad relationships and stuff. I've found long term relationships through this hobby because the type of women I connect with that actually take the time to understand me are those who have been in bad places themselves. Someone has to be either high or intelligent to see the good in someone intelligent, the average pleb mouth breathing idiot isn't smart enough to recognize brilliance when its staring them in the face, or is intimidated by it so they try to sabotage you. So, that is why me and some of the hookers mesh well, sure alot of them do drugs here and there, but contrary to popular opinion, alot of them have brilliant minds. So yeah, maybe its "looking for love in all the wrong places," but I've really known nothing else better other then wandering around mongering, hoping to find love. I actually find escorts to be a lot less drama then ladies not in the hobby, but most of the white collar ladies I've banged who work 100 k jobs are either married and hook up with me for side dick, or prefer abusive prison thugs anyway, and only want an average nice guy like me AFTER their thugs are in jail and have maxed out their credit cards and left them in debt LMFAO, and why would I want anything to do with that? So yeah, please enlighten me, where is a better place to find a decent woman who doesn't want to run you through the wringer?

C92.

[QUOTE=Chunks92;6045416]In some of situations this may be true. But again, case by case basis. There several stories on here of being led back to a room by a possible "handler / pimp etc," and I would never partake in a situation like that, reminds me of the "Apartment 407" movie which what happened in that movie is abhorrent. A lot of the ladies have guys that look out for them without forcing them or even charging them. Hell, I personally would look out for completely free of charge if they were in a bad situation. There is a fine line between good and evil, and a lot of people do cross that line, but some of us do not. Unfortunately the legal system does not differentiate from that, once things move to "judge / administrative, pre trial, and trial," nothing matters besides "was a law broken, or not?" When it should be case by case basis, and they should throw out the cases where the guy was cautious enough to make sure he wasnt dealing with a victim and the lady wasnt forced.

I will say this, yeah, a lot of women in this game are damaged. But you know what? So are some of us, been fucked up by bad relationships and stuff. I've found long term relationships through this hobby because the type of women I connect with that actually take the time to understand me are those who have been in bad places themselves. Someone has to be either high or intelligent to see the good in someone intelligent, the average pleb mouth breathing idiot isn't smart enough to recognize brilliance when its staring them in the face, or is intimidated by it so they try to sabotage you. So, that is why me and some of the hookers mesh well, sure alot of them do drugs here and there, but contrary to popular opinion, alot of them have brilliant minds. So yeah, maybe its "looking for love in all the wrong places," but I've really known nothing else better other then wandering around mongering, hoping to find love. I actually find escorts to be a lot less drama then ladies not in the hobby, but most of the white collar ladies I've banged who work 100 k jobs are either married and hook up with me for side dick, or prefer abusive prison thugs anyway, and only want an average nice guy like me AFTER their thugs are in jail and have maxed out their credit cards and left them in debt LMFAO, and why would I want anything to do with that? So yeah, please enlighten me, where is a better place to find a decent woman who doesn't want to run you through the wringer?

C92.[/QUOTE]Until Prostitution is legalized, it is against the law, period. We all know the game we play.

[QUOTE=SuStar;6044802]The idea that legalizing or decriminalizing commercial sex would reduce its harms is a persistent myth.

Many claim if the sex trade were legal, regulated, and treated like any other profession, it would be safer.

But research suggests otherwise.

Countries that have legalized or decriminalized commercial sex often experience a surge in human trafficking, pimping, and other related crimes.

[URL]https://www.demandabolition.org/research/evidence-against-legalizing-prostitution/[/URL][/QUOTE]Having lived in a country were prostitution was legal I can tell you that they do not have our problems. They do not have prisons overflowing or hyper militarized police. A big part of that is not legalized or decriminalized prostitution or drugs but how different our cultures are. The failed Nordic Model can only be implemented through police surveillance, which harms society as a whole. People will say that in countries were prostitution is legal you have a surge in trafficking and that has been shown to be a lie. When studies are done it always comes back to a bad boy friend who lets his S / O do sex works and lives off the proceeds. All parties arrested in the Robert Kraft massage parlor joke were consenting adults and should not have been subject to any police action. Many of the Nordic Model lovers are feminist who want to harm men, and will sacrifice women to do so, and people who think they can control other people's behavior. It will never work and it will just cause harm.

[QUOTE=CleveLoser;6045372] So is working at McDonalds and the vast majority of jobs.[/QUOTE]As a former low ranking employee and low ranking manager of various fast food joints and greasy spoons who slaved away for sometimes 65-75 hours a week, I can say for a fact this is 100 percent accurate. The legal system makes these hookers unemployable, when I can say for absolute fact that they would have been better employees then half of the mouth breathers that worked underneath my position and above my position. But as you said, why would they want to slave away for chump change when they can lay on their back for 100-200 an hour? Especially when, and I can speak from experience, if an idiot, that makes Beavis and Butthead look smart, but flukes into a high position sees you are intelligent, they will do everything they can to hold you back. Why would they want to deal with that shit when they can be self employed? I don't have a pussy, I have to work those type of jobs, they don't. But when I'm off work, I'd much rather spend my money and time on things I enjoy rather then being part an exploitative legal system in divorce court at this point in my life. Or married to some woman that fucks around on you while you're paying all the bills LOL. Got plenty of time for that when im old. At least hookers are honest about who they are, half of these broads even in high ranking positions marry dudes for money and divorce, that's prostitution when you boil it down, its just not as direct!

"Skipthegames" is a very fitting website name isn't it? Skip the games, of divorce court, strife, and being married to the wrong woman. The risk in return all depends on how you play your cards. Some end up in prison using the site, others, such as government officials and high ranking officers use it because they are either bored or have a sexless marriage and use it responsibly, and some just love the game in general and know how to play, and end up legends like myself and many of us in our community here in the bowels of the internet. Despite being a couple decades old and our country falling apart, this song still rings true today.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7raKBrwBvc[/URL]

C92.

[QUOTE=SuStar;6045288]If it's boring you, then why do you read it?

Are you reading it to relieve guilt?

[URL]https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/signs-guilt[/URL]

[URL]https://medium.com/humanist-way/own-your-guilt-c5f30da94793[/URL]

[URL]https://www.healthline.com/health/boredom[/URL]#fa-qs.[/QUOTE]I gave up reading this whole back and forth philosophical debate a long time ago. Congratulations on hijacking the News and Media thread where we used to share info on stings and news impacting the hobby. Chunks92 be the better man and stop feeding the trolls. Thanks.

Tonto.

[QUOTE=TontoMonger;6046304]I gave up reading this whole back and forth philosophical debate a long time ago. Congratulations on hijacking the News and Media thread where we used to share info on stings and news impacting the hobby. Chunks92 be the better man and stop feeding the trolls. Thanks.

Tonto.[/QUOTE]I'm done commenting on it, but it wasnt just me man, everyone was chipping in. At least its on this thread rather then escort reviews. Seems I shouldn't be singled out just because I write paragraphs.

Far as your other topic, there haven't been any local stings really recently. I suspect they are gearing up for a huge operation within the next few months. Last statewide was Sept. 21, before that it was Oct. Of 2020, before that Sept. Of 19. History has a tendency of repeating itself. Also dug up this gem. Inside video footage of the 02/17/22 sting.

[URL]https://www.cleveland19.com/2022/03/24/19-news-gets-firsthand-look-undercover-human-trafficking-sting-northeast-ohio/[/URL]

C92.

[QUOTE=TontoMonger;6046304]Congratulations on hijacking the News and Media thread where we used to share info on stings and news impacting the hobby. Tonto.[/QUOTE]There is no hijack.

You are free to post info on stings.

You have not posted any.

That is entirely your doing, not anyone else's.

The debate on demand reduction versus legal sex work is an ongoing part of news.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

[URL]https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/modern-day-slavery/202207/criminalize-vs-decriminalize-sex-work-the-debate-continues[/URL]

[QUOTE=Rebrobate218;6045520]Having lived in a country were prostitution was legal I can tell you that they do not have our problems[/QUOTE]False.

[URL]https://www.businessinsider.com/prostitution-is-legal-in-countries-across-europe-photos-2019-3[/URL]

[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-12-05/across-europe-a-growing-sense-that-legalized-prostitution-isn-t-working[/URL]

[URL]https://humanityinaction.org/knowledge_detail/the-audacity-of-tolerance-a-critical-analysis-of-legalized-prostitution-in-amsterdams-red-light-district/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Rebrobate218;6045520]They do not have prisons overflowing or hyper militarized police[/QUOTE]They also did not suffer a series of four coordinated suicide terrorist attacks carried out by the militant Islamic extremist network al-Qaeda, also known as 9/11.

[QUOTE=Rebrobate218;6045520]The failed Nordic Model . . . will never work and it will just cause harm[/QUOTE]False.

[URL]https://nordicmodelnow.org/2019/12/22/has-the-nordic-model-worked-what-does-the-research-say/[/URL]

[QUOTE=CleveLoser;6045372]Certainly it (selling sex) is a coercive and exploitative act. So is working at McDonalds and the vast majority of jobs.[/QUOTE]False.

[URL]https://www.bls.gov/cps/lfcharacteristics.htm[/URL]

[URL]http://mh.bmj.com/content/41/1/40.full[/URL]

Does your mommy know you are on here.

[QUOTE=SuStar;6046656]False.

[URL]https://www.bls.gov/cps/lfcharacteristics.htm[/URL]

[URL]http://mh.bmj.com/content/41/1/40.full[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chunks92;6046520]I'm done commenting on it, but it wasnt just me man, everyone was chipping in. At least its on this thread rather then escort reviews. Seems I shouldn't be singled out just because I write paragraphs.

C92.[/QUOTE]No disrespect whatsoever to you Chunks, and if I did offend it was unintentional. Please accept my apologies, you are a valuable member of the forum who contributes lots of useful info.

Tonto.

[QUOTE=TontoMonger;6048191]No disrespect whatsoever to you Chunks, and if I did offend it was unintentional. Please accept my apologies, you are a valuable member of the forum who contributes lots of useful info.

Tonto.[/QUOTE]Oh no you're good bro.

Back to the sting topics, what's up with Texas guys getting arrested in Ohio lately? Several arrested over the past several months including a guy from this past weekend, his arraignment is set for Friday. Like theres no Cali, no Wyoming, no Florida. Theyre all Texas. Like I know they made it a felony in Texas, id never live there because of that alone LOL. but that makes them get in their car and drive 20 hours to a low populated republican county with no escorts ever and hardly any crime, did they really think anything was going to happen but getting arrested? Like Nevada would have been closer for him at 1220 miles instead of 1250 miles, and he could have gotten his rocks off. Pretty stunning, pretty stunning.

C92.

[QUOTE=HungryEye;6047264]Does your mommy know you are on here.[/QUOTE]I never knew my mother.

She died during my birth.

I was found by a farmer and wife, who raised me as their own.

They both passed away long ago.


Did you complete high school?

Maybe you can comment intelligently on a link posted earlier?

[URL]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9698636/[/URL]


Do you beat prostitutes regularly as part of your self-gratification?

SuStar and others he or she has sucked in: Please take your nonsense out to the "News and Media Reports Forum. This back and forth is neither news or a result of news or media. Please take note that there is a User Blog titled "Legal issues and strategies" which appears to be a more appropriate venue for whatever you call this banter. If you don't like that selection feel free to start your own. Just please don't force your BS on those of us that come to this forum for it's stated purpose.

[QUOTE=SuStar;6050155]I never knew my mother.

She died during my birth.

I was found by a farmer and wife, who raised me as their own.

They both passed away long ago.


Did you complete high school?

Maybe you can comment intelligently on a link posted earlier?

[URL]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9698636/[/URL]


Do you beat prostitutes regularly as part of your self-gratification?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mavrick62;6050639]SuStar and others he or she has sucked in: Please take your nonsense out to the "News and Media Reports Forum. This back and forth is neither news or a result of news or media. Please take note that there is a User Blog titled "Legal issues and strategies" which appears to be a more appropriate venue for whatever you call this banter. If you don't like that selection feel free to start your own. Just please don't force your BS on those of us that come to this forum for it's stated purpose.[/QUOTE]Got to love tone police.

[QUOTE=Mavrick62;6050639]Please take your nonsense out to the "News and Media Reports Forum[/QUOTE]It's nonsense only for types who won't dare face the music about buying sex.

The debate on legalized sex work, abolishing the demand for prostitution, and the social effects of both is part of news.

If it sticks in your craw, then don't read it.

Limit your reading to posts that cover up your role in exploiting women.

[QUOTE=Mavrick62;6050639]Please take your nonsense out to the "News and Media Reports Forum . . . Just please don't force your BS on those of us that come to this forum for it's stated purpose.[/QUOTE]So the problem for you is not that some posts here keep you from reading what you want.

Nor is the problem that you are not able to ignore posts that you don't like.

The problem is that some of what's posted is annoying you.

Perhaps you should ask what about the content of those posts is so unsettling.

Perhaps you are loath to examine the possibility that buying sex may be harmful.

For the record, the purpose of this forum, per the FAQ, is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.

"Looking for sex" is not an endorsement of "buying sex".

"Buying sex" is prohibited by Ohio law.

[QUOTE=SuStar;6051743]So the problem for you is not that some posts here keep you from reading what you want.

Nor is the problem that you are not able to ignore posts that you don't like.

The problem is that some of what's posted is annoying you.

Perhaps you should ask what about the content of those posts is so unsettling.

Perhaps you are loath to examine the possibility that buying sex may be harmful.

For the record, the purpose of this forum, per the FAQ, is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.

"Looking for sex" is not an endorsement of "buying sex".

"Buying sex" is prohibited by Ohio law.[/QUOTE]So in that case, every law enforcement agency should start knocking on doors and cite every single unmarried and married couple for "buying sex" when they buy the other dinner and have sex afterwards. If the government is going to try to be our boss, might as well go all out and treat us all like slaves who should answer to their every demand and get on our knees for them and worship Yost, right? Meets requirements for a charge under the ORC, doesn't it now? "implicit or explicit. " Only logical and fair, right? That way everyone in the country can carry around an engaging in prostitution charge. Because when you boil it down to the bones, its all prostitution bro. Some of what you say is insightful and I appreciate it, and I agree that we should get to know the situations of the women we are dealing with, in and out of the hobby, to make sure they arent in bad situations. I already do that, and maybe it will teach some irresponsible johns to do that as well. But in general your views are archaic and not what we need in our society going forward. Its 2022, cities are crumbling, there are bigger issues then what consenting adults are doing behind closed doors, which is none of anyones business. Especially when for some of us like myself, we end up dating these women because they are our type and we find long term relationships. Not to mention for some of us, its our way of meeting women because we work long hours and dont have time to go out to bars and shit! Its not exploiting if its our way of finding lasting relationships or even just lifelong friendships!

While were at it , im sure in your eyes we should be forced to hand a copy of the keys to our homes to Yost as well so he can check our bedrooms to make sure that we didnt make our wife/significant other dinner and are fucking afterwards, and it could be "implicitly" viewed as "paying for sex".

Cmon man!

C92.

[QUOTE=Chunks92;6052786]So in that case, every law enforcement agency should start knocking on doors and cite every single unmarried and married couple for "buying sex" when they buy the other dinner and have sex afterwards. If the government is going to try to be our boss, might as well go all out and treat us all like slaves who should answer to their every demand and get on our knees for them and worship Yost, right? Meets requirements for a charge under the ORC, doesn't it now? "implicit or explicit. " Only logical and fair, right? That way everyone in the country can carry around an engaging in prostitution charge. Because when you boil it down to the bones, its all prostitution bro. Some of what you say is insightful and I appreciate it, and I agree that we should get to know the situations of the women we are dealing with, in and out of the hobby, to make sure they arent in bad situations. I already do that, and maybe it will teach some irresponsible johns to do that as well. But in general your views are archaic and not what we need in our society going forward. Its 2022, cities are crumbling, there are bigger issues then what consenting adults are doing behind closed doors, which is none of anyones business. Especially when for some of us like myself, we end up dating these women because they are our type and we find long term relationships. Not to mention for some of us, its our way of meeting women because we work long hours and dont have time to go out to bars and shit! Its not exploiting if its our way of finding lasting relationships or even just lifelong friendships!.[/QUOTE]No disrespect. But I thought this forum had moved on from this subject. Now expect a long boring reply from you know who with all kinds of links attached to his or her reply.

[QUOTE=Rickety666;6052996]How about those Guardians? 😁.[/QUOTE]That name change was just the beginning. Pretty soon they will be exerting so much control saying "hi" will trigger people like in the "triggered feminist" meme. The year is 2045. I am in my 50's. Nolan Sorrento is preparing to try to take over the Oasis, just like in Ready player one. and Yost is president with SuStar as his VP. Every morning we must turn on our TV to hear the new pledge like they had to in the soviet union back in the day. Yosts pledge begins with this: "I pledge submission, to Dave Yost, the supreme ruler and controller of every woman's vagina in America. " If our TV is working and we flagrantly don't listen to it, we must pay penalties as stiff as the Jan 2021 insurrectionists. They will monitor our TVs to make sure it is on, and even if our TV is broken we must pay a 1500 dollar fine , the same amount as the maximum penalty for an engaging in prostitution arrest.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs[/URL]

A lot of you guys might not be around to see that day because you're older, I MIGHT be alive for it. Please vote against Yost in November so I don't have to see it.

C92.