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[QUOTE=MarkLipper;2917012]I find it hard to believe that this spa will start offering the "Geneva" treatment. The build out is one of a top notch, high end spa. Very expensive rent and first class facilities. I don't know why you would save your money for years, open a first rate spa only to eventually get busted. Again. Good luck to her. Hope it works out.[/QUOTE][URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-shangri-la-massage-spa-and-sauna-best-massage-in-st-charles/37420401[/URL] This whole thing is a bit strange. You would think if they were 100% legit, that they wouldn't be placing ad's on BP. SaintChuck.

They are also advertising on yelp. Go figure.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2922775][URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-shangri-la-massage-spa-and-sauna-best-massage-in-st-charles/37420401[/URL] This whole thing is a bit strange. You would think if they were 100% legit, that they wouldn't be placing ad's on BP. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2922775][URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-shangri-la-massage-spa-and-sauna-best-massage-in-st-charles/37420401[/URL] This whole thing is a bit strange. You would think if they were 100% legit, that they wouldn't be placing ad's on BP. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]More than a few legit spas advertise on BP, it's a cheap and widely accessed advertising platform. You should check out their web site, looks like a professionally done set-up.

[QUOTE=Castlerae;2923761]More than a few legit spas advertise on BP, it's a cheap and widely accessed advertising platform. You should check out their web site, looks like a professionally done set-up.[/QUOTE]Yes there are legit spas on BP, but I am fairly confident that the vast majority of people trolling through the ad's on BP aren't looking for a legit massage. If there is some woman who is upper middle class or upper class, I think it is safe to say that she won't be trolling BP looking for a place to book her next massage. My point was that when an AMP advertises on BP it gives them a certain label whether they are legit or not. I just thought that the owner would try and distance herself from the type of advertising that could get her thrown into a pool that she no longer want's to swim in. SaintChuck.

They also advertise on yelp that they accept insurance. This would be the first AMP I heard of that does that.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2924065]Yes there are legit spas on BP, but I am fairly confident that the vast majority of people trolling through the ad's on BP aren't looking for a legit massage. If there is some woman who is upper middle class or upper class, I think it is safe to say that she won't be trolling BP looking for a place to book her next massage. My point was that when an AMP advertises on BP it gives them a certain label whether they are legit or not. I just thought that the owner would try and distance herself from the type of advertising that could get her thrown into a pool that she no longer want's to swim in. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiO7ob09u3MAhWDlB4KHZj0BTsQFggzMAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chicagotribune.com%2Fsuburbs%2Faurora-beacon-news%2Fnews%2Fct-abn-still-waters-spa-violations-st-0519-20160519-story.html&usg=AFQjCNHMM8m4QC9a4C8AP3pF0kiDLF_sbQ[/URL] Last night I drove by Golden Ratio and the place was dark and closed. I found this article this morning. It appears that Cici was using massage therapists that had no massage licenses. Another one bites the dust in St. Charles. It has now gone from 7 AMP's to 3 in a short period of time. If they keep this up I am going to have to move. LOL. SaintChuck.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2924292][URL]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiO7ob09u3MAhWDlB4KHZj0BTsQFggzMAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chicagotribune.com%2Fsuburbs%2Faurora-beacon-news%2Fnews%2Fct-abn-still-waters-spa-violations-st-0519-20160519-story.html&usg=AFQjCNHMM8m4QC9a4C8AP3pF0kiDLF_sbQ[/URL] Last night I drove by Golden Ratio and the place was dark and closed. I found this article this morning. It appears that Cici was using massage therapists that had no massage licenses. Another one bites the dust in St. Charles. It has now gone from 7 AMP's to 3 in a short period of time. If they keep this up I am going to have to move. LOL. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]"She took money with the intent of giving him a massage". OH the humanity.

Is it that difficult to find girls with licenses?

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2924292][URL]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiO7ob09u3MAhWDlB4KHZj0BTsQFggzMAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chicagotribune.com%2Fsuburbs%2Faurora-beacon-news%2Fnews%2Fct-abn-still-waters-spa-violations-st-0519-20160519-story.html&usg=AFQjCNHMM8m4QC9a4C8AP3pF0kiDLF_sbQ[/URL] Last night I drove by Golden Ratio and the place was dark and closed. I found this article this morning. It appears that Cici was using massage therapists that had no massage licenses. Another one bites the dust in St. Charles. It has now gone from 7 AMP's to 3 in a short period of time. If they keep this up I am going to have to move. LOL. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DoctorWelby;2924301]"She took money with the intent of giving him a massage". OH the humanity.[/QUOTE]I was cracking up when I read that part "intent of giving a massage. " I just hope that they don't give her the death penalty for her crimes against humanity! SaintChuck.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2889110]I stopped by Golden Ratio. I did a you-turn and walked out. St Charles may be drying up.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&ved=0ahUKEwju27zCxO7MAhVBph4KHUWNCMUQFgg-MAU&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kcchronicle.com%2F2016%2F05%2F06%2Fmassage-business-employee-face-charges-in-st-charles%2Faek4zhe%2F&usg=AFQjCNGVzx8RjsHqsXB0zz3C3d2ER1jwhQ[/URL] The picture in this photo will explain why you made a you-turn. On 2 different occasions I also made the you-turn when I ran into the Golden Girls. SaintChuck.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2924306]Is it that difficult to find girls with licenses?[/QUOTE]Yes. And it is also difficult and very time consuming to transfer a license from another state to an Il license.

Even more difficult to get a license to work in Chiraq and get a license.

There is much to getting a license in this state. Way to much.

One of the most difficult in the USSA.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2924065]Yes there are legit spas on BP, but I am fairly confident that the vast majority of people trolling through the ad's on BP aren't looking for a legit massage. If there is some woman who is upper middle class or upper class, I think it is safe to say that she won't be trolling BP looking for a place to book her next massage. My point was that when an AMP advertises on BP it gives them a certain label whether they are legit or not. I just thought that the owner would try and distance herself from the type of advertising that could get her thrown into a pool that she no longer want's to swim in. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]Just did a quick BP search, and they no longer have an ad there. Only one place listed in St. Charles, on Main St. I don't think I know.

There is an ad from yesterday.

[QUOTE=Castlerae;2924800]Just did a quick BP search, and they no longer have an ad there. Only one place listed in St. Charles, on Main St. I don't think I know.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2924292][URL]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiO7ob09u3MAhWDlB4KHZj0BTsQFggzMAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chicagotribune.com%2Fsuburbs%2Faurora-beacon-news%2Fnews%2Fct-abn-still-waters-spa-violations-st-0519-20160519-story.html&usg=AFQjCNHMM8m4QC9a4C8AP3pF0kiDLF_sbQ[/URL] Last night I drove by Golden Ratio and the place was dark and closed. I found this article this morning. It appears that Cici was using massage therapists that had no massage licenses. Another one bites the dust in St. Charles. It has now gone from 7 AMP's to 3 in a short period of time. If they keep this up I am going to have to move. LOL. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]Damn, SaintChuck. You're a ninja when it comes to finding these things.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2924306]Is it that difficult to find girls with licenses?[/QUOTE]In AMP's yes it is very difficult and why should they get a license?

To get a license in ILL it takes a background & criminal check, fingerprints, 600 hours of study, thousands of dollars in tuition fees and then a state exam. After they get their license if they go to work in an AMP and it gets busted and they get charged there goes the license. If they have no license and work in an AMP and it gets busted they just move to another city or state and start working again.

Also, I would think that the earnings of a legit licensed massage therapist are nowhere near what an AMP girl can make. Some AMP girls make over 100k a year, some even more plus it's usually tax free. I seriously doubt that the legit licensed therapist working at a health / fitness place makes anywhere near that.

I never went to an AMP for a legit licensed massage, who are we kidding. I went for a nice massage and maybe some extras. Didn't have to be the best massage but if she honestly tried, didn't short me on time and the extras were ok that's all I cared about.

Doesn't bother me that most AMP girls are not licensed. If I was one of them I wouldn't bother either.

I had some free time over the weekend and decided to stop in and see what really is going on at Shangri la. When I walk in string toy is behind the counter wearing a long flowered dress. She looked great! A big hug and another tour of the two properties by her was nice. I ask about getting a massage from her. She says no sorry. But introduces me to a short, heavy girl who would give me my massage. I pull string toy aside and ask about extras like we have done for over a year. She says she can't that St Charles has gone crazy. I say ok, I understand and start to leave, she says what about my massage with the umpa loompa looking girl, I decline. Now it gets weird. She talks me into a reduced foot massage. I go into a beautiful room, change into paper shorts they provide and sit down for my foot massage. The door opens and some middle aged Chinese man walks in with a tub of hot water and says "Foot massage yes?" By him! I grab my phone and say next time. I have an emergency call. I dress, leave, and leave him 10.00. Like I said weird.

[QUOTE=MarkLipper;2935308]I had some free time over the weekend and decided to stop in and see what really is going on at Shangri la. When I walk in string toy is behind the counter wearing a long flowered dress. She looked great! A big hug and another tour of the two properties by her was nice. I ask about getting a massage from her. She says no sorry. But introduces me to a short, heavy girl who would give me my massage. I pull string toy aside and ask about extras like we have done for over a year. She says she can't that St Charles has gone crazy. I say ok, I understand and start to leave, she says what about my massage with the umpa loompa looking girl, I decline. Now it gets weird. She talks me into a reduced foot massage. I go into a beautiful room, change into paper shorts they provide and sit down for my foot massage. The door opens and some middle aged Chinese man walks in with a tub of hot water and says "Foot massage yes?" By him! I grab my phone and say next time. I have an emergency call. I dress, leave, and leave him 10.00. Like I said weird.[/QUOTE]Ooch that is a twist I did not expect, especially given that the string toy who knows what you want. Glad you figured out a way to get out there.

So she screws you over by giving you a fat chick then a dude. You don't do the foot massage and give him a tip. This is not a destination for mongers.
Hilarious bro! I hope lesson learned.

[QUOTE=MarkLipper;2935308]I had some free time over the weekend and decided to stop in and see what really is going on at Shangri la. When I walk in string toy is behind the counter wearing a long flowered dress. She looked great! A big hug and another tour of the two properties by her was nice. I ask about getting a massage from her. She says no sorry. But introduces me to a short, heavy girl who would give me my massage. I pull string toy aside and ask about extras like we have done for over a year. She says she can't that St Charles has gone crazy. I say ok, I understand and start to leave, she says what about my massage with the umpa loompa looking girl, I decline. Now it gets weird. She talks me into a reduced foot massage. I go into a beautiful room, change into paper shorts they provide and sit down for my foot massage. The door opens and some middle aged Chinese man walks in with a tub of hot water and says "Foot massage yes?" By him! I grab my phone and say next time. I have an emergency call. I dress, leave, and leave him 10.00. Like I said weird.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2936091]So she screws you over by giving you a fat chick then a dude. You don't do the foot massage and give him a tip. This is not a destination for mongers.
Hilarious bro! I hope lesson learned.[/QUOTE]This is the exact reason that I never went to check the place out, and I drive by it everyday. I knew that there is no way in hell she would risk losing that place by doing something stupid. It's obvious that the place cost some body a shit load of coin. Also if you check out the FB page there were photos of the 2 Asian dudes that give massages. Even if by some remote chance she felt like making an extra hundred bucks, she sure is hell isn't going to risk it now with every thing that has been going down in St. Charles and Batavia. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it is time to put this one to bed and move on. SaintChuck.

The new spa in St. Charles is nice it's an actual real Spa go there and get real treatment has two nice saunas multiple rooms couples rooms and also has lockers you can store your stuff in all I can say is A+++++++ actual good service and licensed girls kid makes Massage Envy look like shit.

Try it out for yourself rooms are high-end Services is high end you almost feel like you're downtown Chicago.

I doubt it is like Massage Envy in terms of a quality massage. I hope she paid you something for this post.

[QUOTE=JLong6911;2937473]The new spa in St. Charles is nice it's an actual real Spa go there and get real treatment has two nice saunas multiple rooms couples rooms and also has lockers you can store your stuff in all I can say is A+++++++ actual good service and licensed girls kid makes Massage Envy look like shit.

Try it out for yourself rooms are high-end Services is high end you almost feel like you're downtown Chicago.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JLong6911;2937473]The new spa in St. Charles is nice it's an actual real Spa go there and get real treatment has two nice saunas multiple rooms couples rooms and also has lockers you can store your stuff in all I can say is A+++++++ actual good service and licensed girls kid makes Massage Envy look like shit.

Try it out for yourself rooms are high-end Services is high end you almost feel like you're downtown Chicago.[/QUOTE]It sounds like a real Monger destination to me. I know that some times I get tired of going to AMP's and all the women want to do is try and get me to do naughty sexual stuff. It might be nice to go have a cup of tea and a nice conversation. Then one of the Chinese guy's can come in and rub my feet for a bit. Then I can go into the other room and play ping pong. I can't believe I have been wasting all of my time going to AMP's, when there is a true massage Gem so close to my house. SaintChuck.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2937622]It sounds like a real Monger destination to me. I know that some times I get tired of going to AMP's and all the women want to do is try and get me to do naughty sexual stuff. It might be nice to go have a cup of tea and a nice conversation. Then one of the Chinese guy's can come in and rub my feet for a bit. Then I can go into the other room and play ping pong. I can't believe I have been wasting all of my time going to AMP's, when there is a true massage Gem so close to my house. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]I went there last week and they have a hot white girl that works there speaks great English and does a great massage then after we had tea and great conversation No guy's when I was there maybe the girl at the desk tough that was your type did you have a Cubs shirt on.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2937591]I doubt it is like Massage Envy in terms of a quality massage. I hope she paid you something for this post.[/QUOTE]The white girl that works there is better looking then any girl I have met at massage Envy you might want to check it out for your self.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2937622]It sounds like a real Monger destination to me. I know that some times I get tired of going to AMP's and all the women want to do is try and get me to do naughty sexual stuff. It might be nice to go have a cup of tea and a nice conversation. Then one of the Chinese guy's can come in and rub my feet for a bit. Then I can go into the other room and play ping pong. I can't believe I have been wasting all of my time going to AMP's, when there is a true massage Gem so close to my house. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]I laughed my ass off.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2937622] I can't believe I have been wasting all of my time going to AMP's, when there is a true massage Gem so close to my house. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]Maybe you can get the preschool teacher to move there and you'll never have to travel again.

-w.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2937622]It sounds like a real Monger destination to me. I know that some times I get tired of going to AMP's and all the women want to do is try and get me to do naughty sexual stuff. It might be nice to go have a cup of tea and a nice conversation. Then one of the Chinese guy's can come in and rub my feet for a bit. Then I can go into the other room and play ping pong. I can't believe I have been wasting all of my time going to AMP's, when there is a true massage Gem so close to my house. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]It is a nice place they have a white girl that works there that's awesome give great massages speaks great English and she's licensed after my massage we sat down for tea and had a great conversation I didn't see you guys there were you wearing a Cubs shirt maybe that's why they sent the guy in for you all I know is it's about time a spa in st-charles has a hot white girl working.

I'll pass.

[QUOTE=JLong6911;2937687]The white girl that works there is better looking then any girl I have met at massage Envy you might want to check it out for your self.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JLong6911;2937928]It is a nice place they have a white girl that works there that's awesome give great massages speaks great English and she's licensed after my massage we sat down for tea and had a great conversation I didn't see you guys there were you wearing a Cubs shirt maybe that's why they sent the guy in for you all I know is it's about time a spa in st-charles has a hot white girl working.[/QUOTE]The place sounds amazing! At first I was a little leery about going to this place, but now that I know the girls are licensed I feel a lot better. I hope that you can tell us the white woman's name so that I can make an appointment. I just hope that when I go on Saturday that there are some other Mongers there, so that we can take full advantage of the table tennis room. SaintChuck.

[QUOTE=JLong6911;2937928]It is a nice place they have a white girl that works there that's awesome give great massages speaks great English [/QUOTE]I hope she speaks English better than she writes it. WTF?

There are 2 reviews on YELP which YELP does not recommend.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2938290]The place sounds amazing! At first I was a little leery about going to this place, but now that I know the girls are licensed I feel a lot better. I hope that you can tell us the white woman's name so that I can make an appointment. I just hope that when I go on Saturday that there are some other Mongers there, so that we can take full advantage of the table tennis room. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2938290]The place sounds amazing! At first I was a little leery about going to this place, but now that I know the girls are licensed I feel a lot better. I hope that you can tell us the white woman's name so that I can make an appointment. I just hope that when I go on Saturday that there are some other Mongers there, so that we can take full advantage of the table tennis room. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]By God, I had no idea of what to do Saturday, but that sounds fantastic! I know that after some very vigorous table tennis, I am sorely (pardon the pun) in need of a fine massage, especially by a licensed therapist. Talk about a multi-faceted experience. This must be the place!

Anyone know if Mary the Hispanic spinner is still around? Last heard she was spotted in Huntley and always a favorite of mine.

You gents forgot 2 of the biggest pluses of this place. The refreshing tea and the great intellectual conversation.

[QUOTE=WhiteRookDown;2939021]By God, I had no idea of what to do Saturday, but that sounds fantastic! I know that after some very vigorous table tennis, I am sorely (pardon the pun) in need of a fine massage, especially by a licensed therapist. Talk about a multi-faceted experience. This must be the place![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2938290]The place sounds amazing! At first I was a little leery about going to this place, but now that I know the girls are licensed I feel a lot better. I hope that you can tell us the white woman's name so that I can make an appointment. I just hope that when I go on Saturday that there are some other Mongers there, so that we can take full advantage of the table tennis room. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]

I stop in Shangri la the other day just to check out the new "white" masseuse. I walk in and string toy is behind the counter again and dressed very nicely. She walks me into the back and after some small talk about the" grand opening "party I missed, I asked her if she has a white girl working? She says yes but not today. I ask will she do "extras"? NO! She says. She then tells me that she thinks the white girl is a "spy" for the city of St. Charles!! She tells me they are legit. But my massage radar is saying give it time. Lets see what a few months of expensive legitimate massages brings in terms of revenue. Their overhead has to be the most of any MP I've ever been in. Time will tell.

[QUOTE=MarkLipper;2945172]I stop in Shangri la the other day just to check out the new "white" masseuse. I walk in and string toy is behind the counter again and dressed very nicely. She walks me into the back and after some small talk about the" grand opening "party I missed, I asked her if she has a white girl working? She says yes but not today. I ask will she do "extras"? NO! She says. She then tells me that she thinks the white girl is a "spy" for the city of St. Charles!! She tells me they are legit. But my massage radar is saying give it time. Lets see what a few months of expensive legitimate massages brings in terms of revenue. Their overhead has to be the most of any MP I've ever been in. Time will tell.[/QUOTE]I don't know how she can make it any more clear that the place is LEGIT. It is your money and time being pissed down the drain. If you keep going there you are going to end up with a bad case of blue balls. After about your 10th visit you will probably need to see a real doctor because you are going to develop tennis elbow from all of the ping pong you will be playing. A waste of time and money, blue balls, and severe tennis elbow, no thanks. SaintChuck.

I have not been there, so I'll only make it a general statement. I believe it is perfectly possible to get extras with women from legit shops. It takes the right, low pressure (no pressure) approach. In the past two years I've managed FS (offsite) with seven women from legit shops. (and I'm no stud). Three weeks ago I met a woman at a legit shop. We just talked about family and various topics. Just relaxed conversation and no-pressure at all. I said I was only interested in professional massage. Somehow, however, we ended up fucking. She simply went to the front door. Locked it. And asked me to fuck her. Now I also think Mark used the wrong approach to ask the woman's boss if her employee would do extras. What is she supposed to say? Never ask for extras. They will find you if the woman wants it. Bob.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2945617]I don't know how she can make it any more clear that the place is LEGIT. It is your money and time being pissed down the drain. If you keep going there you are going to end up with a bad case of blue balls. After about your 10th visit you will probably need to see a real doctor because you are going to develop tennis elbow from all of the ping pong you will be playing. A waste of time and money, blue balls, and severe tennis elbow, no thanks. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]

At this point its perfectly clear that this is legit. At any given time there could be children there either getting a massage or playing table tennis. A shit load of coin was put into this place so I doubt she would risk doing anything stupid at this point.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2945617]I don't know how she can make it any more clear that the place is LEGIT. It is your money and time being pissed down the drain. If you keep going there you are going to end up with a bad case of blue balls. After about your 10th visit you will probably need to see a real doctor because you are going to develop tennis elbow from all of the ping pong you will be playing. A waste of time and money, blue balls, and severe tennis elbow, no thanks. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bob521;2945700]I have not been there, so I'll only make it a general statement. I believe it is perfectly possible to get extras with women from legit shops. It takes the right, low pressure (no pressure) approach. In the past two years I've managed FS (offsite) with seven women from legit shops. (and I'm no stud). Three weeks ago I met a woman at a legit shop. We just talked about family and various topics. Just relaxed conversation and no-pressure at all. I said I was only interested in professional massage. Somehow, however, we ended up fucking. She simply went to the front door. Locked it. And asked me to fuck her. Now I also think Mark used the wrong approach to ask the woman's boss if her employee would do extras. What is she supposed to say? Never ask for extras. They will find you if the woman wants it. Bob.[/QUOTE]Is to walk into any place and ask if they will give you a sex act for money.

[QUOTE=UndieRadar;2946408]Is to walk into any place and ask if they will give you a sex act for money.[/QUOTE]LOL. Yes. I imagine that would be a show stopper. I've never tried that method nor do I think I ever will.