Streetwalker Reports

[QUOTE=Cruise808]

but im thinking, if youre her last date, why would you get good service when she wants to get outta town? [/QUOTE]
Good service or bad service can occur at any time, and in my experience I haven't noticed that a "last date" situation is more likely to produce bad service for me. Perhaps there are two reasons why: first, if it's the provider's last date she may not have as much motivation to rush (because she isn't immediately returning to the street to try to catch another customer), and second, if she wants repeat business from me, she has the same incentive to avoid giving me bad service as she would have at any other time. (Of course, careful selection of a good provider and a clear agreement on the details are important regardless of the time of the date.)

[QUOTE=Kapalua]Good service or bad service can occur at any time, and in my experience I haven't noticed that a "last date" situation is more likely to produce bad service for me. Perhaps there are two reasons why: first, if it's the provider's last date she may not have as much motivation to rush (because she isn't immediately returning to the street to try to catch another customer), and second, if she wants repeat business from me, she has the same incentive to avoid giving me bad service as she would have at any other time. (Of course, careful selection of a good provider and a clear agreement on the details are important regardless of the time of the date.)[/QUOTE]

I'll second that. Some of my best SW dates were "last dates." In my experience, I've often found them more accommodating in the early mornings than in the evenings. Back when I lived in our Nation's Crapital, I'd sometimes have bouts of insomnia, so I'd just cruise the track all night, talking to various girls, being very picky about who/what I wanted. Many times, girls would decline special requests (BB services, multiple-pops, etc.) when I first encountered them during "regular" hours, but if I talked to them again after the sun came up, it was like "ok, let's go!" More than once I ended up getting BBFSCIP from providers who'd emphatically refused just hours earlier. One time a cute, really petite black girl who'd said "no way!" to BB and looked at me like I was crazy when I first approached her, came running up to me at a stop light about 6 hours later shouting "I changed my mind!" I was slightly confused at first since I'd been cruising all night and was getting sleepy, so I replied "huh?" She said, "I changed my mind. If ya still wanna cum inside me, we can go." Turned out to be one of the best dates I've ever had!

As for the reasons this happens, in addition to what Kap said, one rather common one (at least on the mainland) is that the girls who were still out that time of the morning hadn't made their quotas for the night and couldn't go home until they did. Providing extra services for a few extra dollars, was a good way to make the money they needed to satisfy their pimps.

Anyway, that's been my experience. As always, YMMV. Results not guaranteed. Use only as directed.

[QUOTE=Candy Addict]

Many times, girls would decline special requests (BB services, multiple-pops, etc.) when I first encountered them during "regular" hours, but if I talked to them again after the sun came up, it was like "ok, let's go!" [/quote]
That illustrates a useful point for all street hobbyists to remember. Sometimes a streetwalker will refuse to agree to a particular price or a particular service at a certain time, but then change her mind later that day, or later that week, or even later that month. That's why it's good for a hobbyist to remain friendly, and try not to show any annoyance or irritation, if he and a streetwalker can't reach an agreement on price or service. A hobbyist should always "leave the door open" for a streetwalker to change her mind at some later time and accept his offer.

[QUOTE=Candy Addict]

One time a cute, really petite black girl who'd said "no way!" to BB and looked at me like I was crazy when I first approached her, came running up to me at a stop light about 6 hours later shouting "I changed my mind!" [/QUOTE]
A few times I've had streetwalkers run after my vehicle, or walk out into the street to attract my attention, when they had changed their minds about price or service. One streetwalker even ran about half a block to catch up to my vehicle at a red light after she changed her mind.

It's the world's oldest profession, and an unregulated business. If the SW is noticing her "take" for a certain night is not up there she'll go for volume sales or a sale just for the sake of not coming up with a goose egg on the scoreboard.
Never burn that bridge, you may need to cross it again~ it works both ways.

BTW Kap, you could have a nice relay team if they keep sprinting half a block LOL.

BTW, is there an Asian cutie that happens to walk from Fort Street across Beretania towards Kukui Plaza? She is not an HPU student!

An article in the August 13-19 issue of the Honolulu Weekly newspaper, p. 26, states, in part: "When politicians and police cracked down after public outcry on the visibility of prostitutes in Waikiki and Chinatown, the industry simply pushed into someone else's backyard. " Oh, really? I'd sure like to know where the "backyard" is they pushed into. It sure wasn't my backyard (durn it! ) And, I haven't been able to locate any "backyard" that is the carnal cornucoppia anything like what the greater Downtown/Chinatown/Palama area was a couple of years ago. Can anyone provide any enlightenment in that respect?

[QUOTE=Daspbrah]I'm new to this thread because I'm usually mongering in the massage therapist and best HJ threads, but I recently noticed some things pertinent to this active thread.

If this has been discussed before, my apologies, but my research has led me to believe that their are night providers, working corners in the area of lower Aiea. Specifically that Waimalu shopping strip mall with the Kapiolani Coffee Shop, Chun Wah Kam, and Zippy's. It borders Kam Hwy and is diagonally across from Cutter Ford Aiea.

Passers by or other mongers might have noticed around midnight that these scantily clad providers come out of the wood works to show their stuff. Being so close to the residential district I find it a hard sell. I myself have never ventured further than speeding by them at no less than 15 mph. I don't want to be marked as a curbside monger just yet.

I know also that there is a small yet evident group of tranny's in the area also. I'm not into that, so I'm hoping not all of the curbside providers are of that affiliation. I guess only because I would feel a bit weird that I did a double take on some lady-guys. Gross. Anyway, I know I'm not that numb and my guy-dar is usually pretty good. But believe me I'm not anti-gay, homophobic or a tranny hater, I just don't favor those dudes for my own mongering purposes. And I do believe I saw some real ba-dussy.

Anyone seen them too? Whats the deals? Any stories?[/QUOTE]I see them from time to time when I'm passing by late at night. They usually walk across the street btw the two bus stops. They look bigger than me and kinda spooky; plus the area can get pretty bad too.

[QUOTE=Randy S Canby]An article in the August 13-19 issue of the Honolulu Weekly newspaper, p. 26, states, in part: "When politicians and police cracked down after public outcry on the visibility of prostitutes in Waikiki and Chinatown, the industry simply pushed into someone else's backyard. " Oh, really? I'd sure like to know where the "backyard" is they pushed into. It sure wasn't my backyard (durn it! ) And, I haven't been able to locate any "backyard" that is the carnal cornucoppia anything like what the greater Downtown/Chinatown/Palama area was a couple of years ago. Can anyone provide any enlightenment in that respect?[/QUOTE]Agreed. I sometimes wonder where they all went? Jail, dead, new life?

But most likely, a different state.

[QUOTE=First Try]BTW Kap, you could have a nice relay team if they keep sprinting half a block LOL. [/QUOTE]That one was young and energetic. Watching her run in my rear view mirror, I was impressed. On the other hand, I've encountered some street providers who have been so lazy or tired that if they're sitting down, they don't even stand up and walk over to my vehicle when I've shown interest in speaking with them. Instead they will reply "What did you say?" or "Huh?" if they can't hear.

I second that. Actually, I see a lot of lazy ones or ones that just hangout not really looking to work it. Makes it a little harder to approach especially if theyre bunched up with others, at least I think its harder. But then again you got those that work the sidewalk, waving at everyone that passes by.

[QUOTE=Cruise808]

I second that. Actually, I see a lot of lazy ones or ones that just hangout not really looking to work it. Makes it a little harder to approach especially if theyre bunched up with others, at least I think its harder. But then again you got those that work the sidewalk, waving at everyone that passes by. [/QUOTE]
If I were giving advice to downtown streetwalkers on how to attract more customers, here are some of the things that I would suggest: (1) don't stand around bunched together in a group -- some customers will be less likely to stop, because they may feel less comfortable confronting a group and/or they don't want everyone to hear what should be a private conversation; (2) if you're reasonably attractive, try to stand where there is sufficient light for customers to have a clear view of you at night; (3) choose a location where customers can easily pull over and stop to speak with you, not a location where that may be difficult; (4) don't waste time playing with your cellphone and/or having lengthy social conversations on your cellphone, as customers pass by unnoticed; (5) show some enthusiasm, be cheerful, smile, wave, etc., to attract more customers -- fewer customers will be interested in women who look grumpy, irritable, tired or bored; (6) have some initiative and approach the vehicle when a customer wants to speak with you -- don't lazily sit or stand too far away to hear the customer, and then say "What?" or "Huh?"; (7) don't lose interest and give up if a customer doesn't stop the first time (or even the second or third time) he sees you, because some customers like to carefully observe the scene and circle around several times before stopping; and (8) don't have any man, including your parasite "boyfriend," standing or sitting too close to you -- few customers will stop if a man seems to be with you.

Any more suggestions to add to the list, guys?

Kap your list is pretty good. But I have noticed that a bunch of the longs girls always talk on their cell or got their cell out and makes like their talking! A lot hang in groups out by zippys which includes guys. Picking up a SW can be tricky because on one hand you want to be discreet about it, but on the other hand, its hard to be discreet and c/talk to the SW in some decent lighting.

[QUOTE=Kapalua]If I were giving advice to downtown streetwalkers on how to attract more customers, here are some of the things that I would suggest: (1) don't stand around bunched together in a group -- some customers will be less likely to stop, because they may feel less comfortable confronting a group and/or they don't want everyone to hear what should be a private conversation; (2) if you're reasonably attractive, try to stand where there is sufficient light for customers to have a clear view of you at night; (3) choose a location where customers can easily pull over and stop to speak with you, not a location where that may be difficult; (4) don't waste time playing with your cellphone and/or having lengthy social conversations on your cellphone, as customers pass by unnoticed; (5) show some enthusiasm, be cheerful, smile, wave, etc., to attract more customers -- fewer customers will be interested in women who look grumpy, irritable, tired or bored; (6) have some initiative and approach the vehicle when a customer wants to speak with you -- don't lazily sit or stand too far away to hear the customer, and then say "What?" or "Huh?"; (7) don't lose interest and give up if a customer doesn't stop the first time (or even the second or third time) he sees you, because some customers like to carefully observe the scene and circle around several times before stopping; and (8) don't have any man, including your parasite "boyfriend," standing or sitting too close to you -- few customers will stop if a man seems to be with you.

Any more suggestions to add to the list, guys?[/QUOTE]Sounds good, especially the cell phone one; they should have their party wait one, rather than expect a motorist to have to sit there, which is tactically unsound.

Drove through downtown this morning and found no females except the Longs Girls. Be warned, the mahus (who incidentally seem to outnumber the female providers) seem to have spread to Maunakea St Mauka of N Kukui St and Nuuanu Ave Mauka of S Kukui St.

Headed Ewa on Kamehameha Hwy in Aiea and found the providers in front of the bus stop across the street from Cutter Ford. There are about half a dozen of them and none of them are female.

Drove elsewhere to get my nut on.

[QUOTE=Daspbrah]I'm new to this thread because I'm usually mongering in the massage therapist and best HJ threads, but I recently noticed some things pertinent to this active thread.

If this has been discussed before, my apologies, but my research has led me to believe that their are night providers, working corners in the area of lower Aiea. Specifically that Waimalu shopping strip mall with the Kapiolani Coffee Shop, Chun Wah Kam, and Zippy's. It borders Kam Hwy and is diagonally across from Cutter Ford Aiea.

Passers by or other mongers might have noticed around midnight that these scantily clad providers come out of the wood works to show their stuff. Being so close to the residential district I find it a hard sell. I myself have never ventured further than speeding by them at no less than 15 mph. I don't want to be marked as a curbside monger just yet.

I know also that there is a small yet evident group of tranny's in the area also. I'm not into that, so I'm hoping not all of the curbside providers are of that affiliation. I guess only because I would feel a bit weird that I did a double take on some lady-guys. Gross. Anyway, I know I'm not that numb and my guy-dar is usually pretty good. But believe me I'm not anti-gay, homophobic or a tranny hater, I just don't favor those dudes for my own mongering purposes. And I do believe I saw some real ba-dussy.

Anyone seen them too? Whats the deals? Any stories?[/QUOTE]I got a good look at them. They are all dudes.

Keep in mind, that the SW's in DT aren't in the best of mind (from drugs. Etc) or just plain tired. To do all that for 12 hours straight is asking a lot. However, if they could do all that, it'd be great. I personally have never picked up at SW with her "man" around. Also, if they are just going to sit around on the curb with their head down, they'd might as well find a nice patch of grass to take a real nap cause no one is going to pick them up like that.

Strategy

[QUOTE=H Mobius]Sounds good, especially the cell phone one; they should have their party wait one, rather than expect a motorist to have to sit there ..[/QUOTE]That’s a good one Mark. They are going to make the guy on the phone with the sustenance wait, while they get insulted with a low bid from some jack-off afraid to get out of his car.

[QUOTE=Headrest]Strategy

That’s a good one Mark. They are going to make the guy on the phone with the sustenance wait, while they get insulted with a low bid from some jack-off afraid to get out of his car.[/QUOTE]


Again, what the hell are you talking about? Your entries are just babble and have no info at all! Just read and don't contribute.

[QUOTE=The P Hunter]Again, what the hell are you talking about? Your entries are just babble and have no info at all! Just read and don't contribute.[/QUOTE]I'm surprised that he isn't on your ignore list yet The P Hunter.

[QUOTE=Headrest]Strategy

That’s a good one Mark. They are going to make the guy on the phone with the sustenance wait, while they get insulted with a low bid from some jack-off afraid to get out of his car.[/QUOTE]
You are one strange MF.

[QUOTE=Starfox64]

To do all that for 12 hours straight is asking a lot. [/QUOTE]
Yes, but if a provider did do it, maybe she wouldn't have to be out there "for 12 hours straight," because she could attract more business in less time. :)

Nonsense, [QUOTE=Starfox64] To do all that for 12 hours straight is asking a lot.[/quote]Three days at a time is more like it. Ask her![quote] I personally have never picked up at SW with her "man" around.[/quote]Probably some Predator, don’t use that as an excuse not to have a little fun. You want her, go and get her.[quote]if they are just going to sit around .. they'd might as well find a nice patch of grass to take a real nap cause no one is going to pick them up like that.[/QUOTE]Better providers have regulars. We know where to find them. It is silly to think the only way they earn a living is fishing at the curb. When somebody wants her he will make the effort to track her down and reap the rewards. Chicks fall asleep on me all of the time. You can sleep with the wench, just don’t let her go away sick.

[QUOTE=Headrest]Nonsense, Three days at a time is more like it. Ask her![/QUOTE]Most of the girls are out every night. The Pimps near Longs don't let their girls take a rest. Why should they? They can make over 1K a night. The Pimps are greedy and would rather work their girl to death they can always find another at the local High School or College. The ones that don't have pimps have addictions they need to feed and so they have to be out almost every day. There are maybe a few who need the money and so work cause they have no other choice, but I only have known TWO of them in all my years of going to DT. BOTH were recovering from an addiction.[QUOTE=Headrest]Probably some Predator, don’t use that as an excuse not to have a little fun. You want her, go and get her.[/QUOTE]Predators don't hang with the girls. The pimps have to keep them on a tight leash otherwise they might grow brainstems and wonder why are they giving the money to this pimp who does almost nothing for them. If not its the 'recruiting' spiel'. [QUOTE=Headrest]Better providers have regulars. We know where to find them. It is silly to think the only way they earn a living is fishing at the curb. When somebody wants her he will make the effort to track her down and reap the rewards.[/QUOTE]Considering that most of the Long's girls are dropouts, or to lazy to look for jobs, right they earn a living outside of the biz. What else? AMP, Escort, almost all of them put up Craigslist ads, and work part time at the other locations. The ones that hit the street in DT are the ones that get thown out of the AMP, and don't have the 'professional' attitude for Escorts. Considering this is HAWAII where almost everyone knows someone else that you might know, unless your getting OUT there is no way your going to be able to keep it a secret and work both a day job and a 'night job'.[QUOTE=Headrest] Chicks fall asleep on me all of the time. You can sleep with the wench, just don’t let her go away sick.[/QUOTE]
Do they fall asleep after? Or DURING?

I normally don't comment about other people. But WTF are you talking about? By those comments alone I know you aren't part of the HAWAII scene. The views you express and some of your comments make me wonder if you are even in Hawaii or even do monger. You have a alternate 'Happy Hooker' view of how things are. Things aren't that nice, I haven't met a 'Happy Hooker' in Hawaii yet,

Anyone got da 411 on the New Cheers location. I went the other night and saw some hot hot hotties. Which of the girls are good to go home with and which are ROBs. I don't go to bars as much now and would like to save some $ with good info from you frequent mongers. Got money to spend but now waste.

[QUOTE=Mr Okada]

Anyone got da 411 on the New Cheers location. I went the other night and saw some hot hot hotties. Which of the girls are good to go home with and which are ROBs. I don't go to bars as much now and would like to save some $ with good info from you frequent mongers. Got money to spend but now waste. [/QUOTE]
That message might receive more replies if you repost it in the "Korean Bar" thread. This is the "Streetwalker Reports" thread.

Last week when I went mongering I met Hannah, a former Waikiki girl who was working in front of the Longs Drugs. She wanted me to park somewhere on N Kukui St then on Aala St and then in the parking garage on S Kukui St. I got suspicious and figured that parking so close was an invitation for trouble. Have any of you ever met a provider who refused to leave the vicinity?

Do you think it is possible that she is LE?

[QUOTE=Ewa Dave]

Last week when I went mongering I met Hannah, a former Waikiki girl who was working in front of the Longs Drugs. She wanted me to park somewhere on N Kukui St then on Aala St and then in the parking garage on S Kukui St. I got suspicious and figured that parking so close was an invitation for trouble. Have any of you ever met a provider who refused to leave the vicinity?

Do you think it is possible that she is LE? [/QUOTE]
Because I've never met "Hannah," my response is merely based upon my general impressions. As you correctly recognized, staying within the South Kukui Street/North Kukui Street/Aala Street hot zone could be "an invitation for trouble." Yet, if Hannah was willing to enter your car and drive away with you, most likely she wouldn't be LE. If she's relatively new to the downtown scene ("former Waikiki girl"), her suggestions about where to park may have been due to inexperience with that area and/or reluctance to travel a greater distance to an unfamiliar location with an unknown man. However, if I had been in your position and she refused to leave the South Kukui Street/North Kukui Street/Aala Street hot zone, I also would not have "dated" her.

Recently noticed that in Oklahoma, there's a guy who calls himself a "Video Vigilante" -- he videotapes streetwalkers and customers, and then places the videos on YouTube for public viewing. He even follows streetwalkers and customers to the locations where they're doing the deed, and interrupts them with his videotaping and lectures against street prostitution. Here are some of his videos:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=videovigilanteokc[/url]

I have seen his stuff before and it is crazy stuff. If there ever was someone like that here it would be brutal.

[QUOTE=Kapalua]Recently noticed that in Oklahoma, there's a guy who calls himself a "Video Vigilante" -- he videotapes streetwalkers and customers, and then places the videos on YouTube for public viewing. He even follows streetwalkers and customers to the locations where they're doing the deed, and interrupts them with his videotaping and lectures against street prostitution. Here are some of his videos:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=videovigilanteokc[/url][/QUOTE]

So about last week I was mongering down town, and I was by? S. Kukui and aala? Yknow the bargain bin ailse by riverstreet, so town had slim pickins that night, nothing but mahus and that anorexic indian looking girl by cheap ass ciggerettes. So after a pack of mahus left the bargain bin aisle 1 was left behind, to my luck it was a female, her name was chevy, when we started talking the mahus started coming back and looked like they were about to ambush my car, so I just told her get in.

So turns out she was a pretty normal local girl, but she looked kinda moke. We parked and she gave me a pretty decent CBJ, wouldve been better if was BB but it was pretty good for a cbj, so we talked a little and I dropped her off back at the bargain bin aisle. Total damage. 4? 2 jacksons.

I seen her recently, she hangs out with that other mokish girl shae with tha fair skin. Wouldve stopped but they were hangin out with the mahus.

Hope my report wasnt to detailed, just tryin to contribute.

Peace

[QUOTE=Skahawaii]

So after a pack of mahus left the bargain bin aisle 1 was left behind, to my luck it was a female, her name was chevy, when we started talking the mahus started coming back and looked like they were about to ambush my car, so I just told her get in.

So turns out she was a pretty normal local girl, but she looked kinda moke. ...

I seen her recently, she hangs out with that other mokish girl shae with tha fair skin. Wouldve stopped but they were hangin out with the mahus. [/QUOTE]
Good report. Here's some additional information. There's a streetwalker named Chevy who sometimes works in the bargain area of North Kukui Street and Aala Street, who associates with mahus and with Shay/Shae, and who looks sufficiently feminine and attractive to pass as a female for some customers (especially at night). However, that Chevy is actually a mahu. Don't know if that is the same Chevy you met in that location, but it might be. So any hobbyist who meets a streetwalker named Chevy in that location may want to carefully verify that she's really a female (if that's what the hobbyist is seeking).

[QUOTE=Kapalua]Recently noticed that in Oklahoma, there's a guy who calls himself a "Video Vigilante" -- he videotapes streetwalkers and customers, and then places the videos on YouTube for public viewing. He even follows streetwalkers and customers to the locations where they're doing the deed, and interrupts them with his videotaping and lectures against street prostitution.[/QUOTE]

Wow, that's pretty crazy...and an easy way to get shot or the crap kicked out of you. Personally, I'd save the ammo and use my trusty bat. Good ammo is so damn expensive now thanks to 9/11.

Went out last week a few times and it was dead in DT. There were the usual mahus out towards N. Kukui like Ska mentioned and I saw a larger blonde and that girl that advertises on CL a lot(the bigger haole one with long brown curly hair). I haven't seen Selina out for quite some time now and the quality seems to have gone downhill. One night, there were 4-5 local/filipina looking girls on the Pali corner dressed like they just came from a club and all chose the same dress except 3 of them were way overweight. One was sitting on the hood of a car and I really hope it wasn't a fellow monger's car as she surely left a dent. Unfortunately, one of the 'club' girls was more than a 4 in face and body.

I was thinking of popping my DT SW cherry this week. Usually I'm a AMP or SB type of guy. Who would you all suggest? A description and approximate area would be nice. What's the damage for a newbie like myself?

Thanks guys

[QUOTE=Jap Boy]

I was thinking of popping my DT SW cherry this week. Usually I'm a AMP or SB type of guy. Who would you all suggest? A description and approximate area would be nice. What's the damage for a newbie like myself? [/QUOTE]
Might want to try the famous Jamie for outstanding oral service:

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=30385[/url]

She was working on North Kukui Street both last night and the night before. Jamie will blow your mind without blowing your budget. ;)

Is Lia still working by Long's? I haven't seen her ad on craig's for awhile nor seen her walking by.

[QUOTE=Domichow]Is Lia still working by Long's? I haven't seen her ad on craig's for awhile nor seen her walking by.[/QUOTE]She just posted an ad tonight. Check CL under Wednesday 9/10. If it's already been flagged then just give her a call.

G35

[QUOTE=Domichow]

Is Lia still working by Long's? I haven't seen her ad on craig's for awhile nor seen her walking by. [/QUOTE]
Recently she doesn't seem to have often been working in the Longs area, but she's sometimes there. Observed her working on the mauka side of South Kukui Street one night within the past week or so.

[QUOTE=Kapalua]Recently she doesn't seem to have often been working in the Longs area, but she's sometimes there. Observed her working on the mauka side of South Kukui Street one night within the past week or so.[/QUOTE]
She was there last night at about 230.

Anyone see the young brunette with pink top who was lifting her skirt at the corner of Zippy's parking lot around 3:30 this (Friday) afternoon? Who is she and how's her service?

[QUOTE=Waiu One]Anyone see the young brunette with pink top who was lifting her skirt at the corner of Zippy's parking lot around 3:30 this (Friday) afternoon? Who is she and how's her service?[/QUOTE]

I don't know but usually the ones that lift the skirt, are the ones with a surprise.

[QUOTE=Kay Bee]I don't know but usually the ones that lift the skirt, are the ones with a surprise.[/QUOTE]This was a WSW and lifted skirt displayed female parts.