Rants, Raves, and Stupid Tinfoil Hat Wearing Conspiracy Bullshit

A SB I've been seeing for a few years told me once that when she was a provider, she got asked by a client if she had a boyfriend on numerous occasions. While she thought he was trying to pry into her personal life, come to find out, he wanted her to have a guy cream inside her right before he saw her because he enjoyed cleaning up creampies. Orally that is. Then there's those guys who enjoy drinking a girls urine. There are some pretty wacky people out there, but then again. Who's to judge? If you don't want to risk licking up creampie, don't DATY, if you don't want to risk the taste of dick, don't daty or kiss. If you are a "MUST BE GFE" date seeker. Think about these things before going in. The variables in BP mongering (and mongering with different ladies) is why I've stayed close to one lady over the years. Too many bad apples out there this day in time.

Yep, she is a world class c unt. Do not see her. Yes, she does laugh about and find some sick pleasure in this type of behavior.

[QUOTE=Amateur11;3196777]I don't know who Noa is, have heard the name but haven't seen a pic (that I would remember anyway). I know who Bobbi is, never seen her, but food for thought. There are a lot of guys here and certainly EVERY girl who posts on here (I know Bobbi posts, but have not seen Noa post) always likes to admonish we mongers for not "stepping up" and paying for a "girl with class, not BP trash. " And here is a discussion about a girl who works with a supposed "classy" escort who probably charges 2-3 x as much as a typical BP girl, who members are claiming shits and doesn't wipe, and lets unsuspecting guys guzzle 3rd party cu

Ok, and who was it that was knocking me in some recent threads for my policy of never paying more than $60 for a QV or $100 for a HH and that you can find a perfectly fine BP girl here and there for that price?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amateur11;3196777]I don't know who Noa is, have heard the name but haven't seen a pic (that I would remember anyway). I know who Bobbi is, never seen her, but food for thought. There are a lot of guys here and certainly EVERY girl who posts on here (I know Bobbi posts, but have not seen Noa post) always likes to admonish we mongers for not "stepping up" and paying for a "girl with class, not BP trash. " And here is a discussion about a girl who works with a supposed "classy" escort who probably charges 2-3 x as much as a typical BP girl, who members are claiming shits and doesn't wipe, and lets unsuspecting guys guzzle 3rd party cum.

Ok, and who was it that was knocking me in some recent threads for my policy of never paying more than $60 for a QV or $100 for a HH and that you can find a perfectly fine BP girl here and there for that price?[/QUOTE]Paying the extra money decreases the possible street nonsense. Like someone trying to get in the room and rob you or blackmail you (which you've been through in the past). I've only seen Dawn out of Bobbi's crew and it was a smooth transaction. No drama and no bullshit. No drug crap, etc. The reviews of Noa describe a similar experience. As well as Lilli (the hot blond) and all of Bobbi's crew. That other chick Jessica Star (think that's her name. Tall blonde, mature), she's expensive too but, once again, easy transaction and no bullshit. This Noa thing is an anomaly. She's a sick btch. I noticed that she's not even in the Bobbi crew anymore. Check out Sensual Sirens, she's not in the lineup. Bobbi must have given her boot because she figured out Noa is bat Shit crazy.

[QUOTE=Amateur11;3196777]I don't know who Noa is, have heard the name but haven't seen a pic (that I would remember anyway). I know who Bobbi is, never seen her, but food for thought. There are a lot of guys here and certainly EVERY girl who posts on here (I know Bobbi posts, but have not seen Noa post) always likes to admonish we mongers for not "stepping up" and paying for a "girl with class, not BP trash. " And here is a discussion about a girl who works with a supposed "classy" escort who probably charges 2-3 x as much as a typical BP girl, who members are claiming shits and doesn't wipe, and lets unsuspecting guys guzzle 3rd party cum.

Ok, and who was it that was knocking me in some recent threads for my policy of never paying more than $60 for a QV or $100 for a HH and that you can find a perfectly fine BP girl here and there for that price?[/QUOTE]Perfectly fine 60 qv backpqge girl. The whole business is dirty top to bottom. There is not one girl, from any price range that is not a danger to us so it's laughable that you are finding 60 girl. Better hope she made it to her court date last week or the sheriff will be knocking on the door with his FTA warrant while you are dipping into that girl. BTW. Better make sure she was of age.

Man. We are all fucked up playing this game.

[QUOTE=Amateur11;3196777]I don't know who Noa is, have heard the name but haven't seen a pic (that I would remember anyway). I know who Bobbi is, never seen her, but food for thought. There are a lot of guys here and certainly EVERY girl who posts on here (I know Bobbi posts, but have not seen Noa post) always likes to admonish we mongers for not "stepping up" and paying for a "girl with class, not BP trash. " And here is a discussion about a girl who works with a supposed "classy" escort who probably charges 2-3 x as much as a typical BP girl, who members are claiming shits and doesn't wipe, and lets unsuspecting guys guzzle 3rd party cum.

Ok, and who was it that was knocking me in some recent threads for my policy of never paying more than $60 for a QV or $100 for a HH and that you can find a perfectly fine BP girl here and there for that price?[/QUOTE]You and I have butted heads on a few subjects before. I don't remember knocking you for your price cap but maybe I did. I do remember knocking talking girls down on price. I posted a month or so ago that you have many good points and insights. Crabtree area providers especially, I had never thought of that, it was a good observation. So perhaps I am not yet ready to snatch the peeble from your hand.

I am increasingly disillusioned with BP girls as well. I don't have a set max price but most aren't worth what they are asking for me. Maybe I have been doing this long enough for the thrill to wear off? Maybe I'm getting old and have low T? Might be I have seen most of the ones on my list and most of the new ones don't appeal to me. Damn, this is starting to sound like a diary. END.

[QUOTE=Crtchadialhntr;3197536]
I am increasingly disillusioned with BP girls as well. I don't have a set max price but most aren't worth what they are asking for me. Maybe I have been doing this long enough for the thrill to wear off? Maybe I'm getting old and have low T? Might be I have seen most of the ones on my list and most of the new ones don't appeal to me. Damn, this is starting to sound like a diary. END.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure it's them not you. Let's face it, prices are high and quality is low. In addition to low quality there is also the drug thing which seems to have produced a give no f's about your experience, how clean my room is or my hygeine attitude. On the other end most of the "high" class chicks who do GFE are now on the older side and most aren't tight bodied. They're also often charging 200-300+/ hr which would is probably fine if your mind doesn't wonder to the fact that they probably let several regulars bb, probably let someone cim before they saw you, still does as much volume per day as is available and so on.

Personally I have days where I check backpage raleigh and don't see a single chick I would pay to have sex with. In fact it's fair to say there are a few who should pay me for the pleasure of my company. FWIW Fayetteville has a few decent lookers for some reasonable prices. I few months ago I saw a chick who said she came to Raleigh to charge more because some bad chicas in Fayetteville were pretty much giving it away. She's posted in the ville again and whereas guys in Raleigh were beating down her door for 140/ hh she's probably lucky to get 100/ hh in the ville.

I can't find reviews but there's and agency in Greensboro that's 200/ hr and looks promising (voodoobrite or something). I called and the screening was light. The chick asked for a business card or just proof of my ter account with reviews. I opted to head to the ville though.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;3197570]I'm pretty sure it's them not you. Let's face it, prices are high and quality is low. In addition to low quality there is also the drug thing which seems to have produced a give no f's about your experience, how clean my room is or my hygeine attitude. On the other end most of the "high" class chicks who do GFE are now on the older side and most aren't tight bodied. They're also often charging 200-300+/ hr which would is probably fine if your mind doesn't wonder to the fact that they probably let several regulars bb, probably let someone cim before they saw you, still does as much volume per day as is available and so on.

Personally I have days where I check backpage raleigh and don't see a single chick I would pay to have sex with. In fact it's fair to say there are a few who should pay me for the pleasure of my company. FWIW Fayetteville has a few decent lookers for some reasonable prices. I few months ago I saw a chick who said she came to Raleigh to charge more because some bad chicas in Fayetteville were pretty much giving it away. She's posted in the ville again and whereas guys in Raleigh were beating down her door for 140/ hh she's probably lucky to get 100/ hh in the ville.

I can't find reviews but there's and agency in Greensboro that's 200/ hr and looks promising (voodoobrite or something). I called and the screening was light. The chick asked for a business card or just proof of my ter account with reviews. I opted to head to the ville though.[/QUOTE]You're probably correct. I did look at the other big 3 cities in NC and saw more that interested me but I wasn't sure if it was just because they were new faces to me. Like Baby / Ava, if I was from out of town and saw her ad I'd be calling her on a flash. Knowing her history I won't, did see her once a few years ago though. Another shame and loss from the path she chose.

[QUOTE=Buki1;3197340]Yep, she is a world class c unt. Do not see her. Yes, she does laugh about and find some sick pleasure in this type of behavior.[/QUOTE]I wonder how many clients have drank a gallon of Listerine after reading this.

[QUOTE=Crtchadialhntr;3197536]You and I have butted heads on a few subjects before. I don't remember knocking you for your price cap but maybe I did. I do remember knocking talking girls down on price. I posted a month or so ago that you have many good points and insights. Crabtree area providers especially, I had never thought of that, it was a good observation. So perhaps I am not yet ready to snatch the peeble from your hand.

I am increasingly disillusioned with BP girls as well. I don't have a set max price but most aren't worth what they are asking for me. Maybe I have been doing this long enough for the thrill to wear off? Maybe I'm getting old and have low T? Might be I have seen most of the ones on my list and most of the new ones don't appeal to me. Damn, this is starting to sound like a diary. END.[/QUOTE]I don't remember butting heads but who knows. Also Tabor, agree, it's all roulette, so if I'm going to play roulette I pick a girl based on intuition, a million-years old evolutionary survival trait (which of course isn't foolproof), not on PRICE. Buy or sell on PRICE and you lose. You're picking a GIRL, not a dollar amount. White trash who wears designer clothes is not "classy," no matter what she charges, just like a diamond in the rough from trying to feed her kid and has a place on New Bern is not necessarily "trashy," even though she's charging less.

And I agree, hate that that not-so-secret secret is out, but Fayetteville, and often GSO have better selection of BP girls than Raleigh has for the past year.

DATY? Try reading what the CDC says about it. [URL]https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/oralsex.html[/URL] While the risk of getting HIV is low, that doesn't mean you won't catch something, douched or not:

"Other STDs, such as syphilis, herpes, gonorrhea and chlamydia, can be transmitted during oral sex. Anilingus can also transmit hepatitis A and B, intestinal parasites like Giardia, and bacteria like E. Coli. ".

Don't believe the government? Best not to go to the doctor, then, because it's the government that makes sure the doctors actually went to medical school and actually know something about helping you keep your ass from dropping off after you eat that pussy. But from what I hear, that wart cure is a *****.

[QUOTE=Crtchadialhntr;3196624]She has mostly repeats. She knows who her next client is. If she likes him she douches if not, not. Certain people also like ass play and she knows who they are. I don't plan on licking anyone's ass, especially if they escort. Believe it or not it's you option. All her reviews are stellar and no doubt some people will not believe it, surely she would deny it. But no one can say they haven't been told.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Merge1;3197830]DATY? Try reading what the CDC says about it. [URL]https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/oralsex.html[/URL] While the risk of getting HIV is low, that doesn't mean you won't catch something, douched or not:

"Other STDs, such as syphilis, herpes, gonorrhea and chlamydia, can be transmitted during oral sex. Anilingus can also transmit hepatitis A and B, intestinal parasites like Giardia, and bacteria like E. Coli. ".

Don't believe the government? Best not to go to the doctor, then, because it's the government that makes sure the doctors actually went to medical school and actually know something about helping you keep your ass from dropping off after you eat that pussy. But from what I hear, that wart cure is a *****.[/QUOTE]You had me at semen Jerry Maguire. LOL.

[QUOTE=Noseitall]About noa
Hey so I've been lurking for a brief minute after a hiatus from the hobby and have wanted to see noa for awhile. But this BB stuff I'm reading about gives me cause to worry and or concern. Do you know for sure that she offers BB to clients? Is this a secret to the boards?! Is that the reason she's gotten so many rave reviews? Is that why she left sensual sirens? Any info you could provide would be so helpful because I want to see her but not if she's providing dirty services.

Thanks[/QUOTE]This guy sent this to me in PM. Posting my reply here: Noseitall, you have to trust your own gut. I've never seen Noa, I'm not even into Asian chicks. I will say that she looks sexy. As for my opinion if she does BB, or doesn't wipe her ass -- I believe the stories. As for her reviews, I think she got rave reviews because she is good at her job. I don't know why she left Sensual Sirens. Here is what I will say, I've made up my mind that she's a fckin psycho btch and I would not spend a dime on her but that's just me. If you want to see her, you should. Nobody on this board determines what I'm going to do. I do what I want. It's my life and my dick. So that's my advice to you -- do what you want to do with your life and your dick. Hope that's helpful.

[QUOTE=GetControl;3198243]This guy sent this to me in PM. Posting my reply here: Noseitall, you have to trust your own gut. I've never seen Noa, I'm not even into Asian chicks. I will say that she looks sexy. As for my opinion if she does BB, or doesn't wipe her ass -- I believe the stories. As for her reviews, I think she got rave reviews because she is good at her job. I don't know why she left Sensual Sirens. Here is what I will say, I've made up my mind that she's a fckin psycho btch and I would not spend a dime on her but that's just me. If you want to see her, you should. Nobody on this board determines what I'm going to do. I do what I want. It's my life and my dick. So that's my advice to you -- do what you want to do with your life and your dick. Hope that's helpful.[/QUOTE]Never seen her but for a year straight she gets rave reviews than she leaves a well known agency probably not on good terms so in knowing from talking to different girls that agencies can be vicious and vindictive I would highly question some of these rumors. How many times do you see a girl leave an agency around here and go independent? Not often and when they do there is threats and harassment from the previous agency, I have heard it from several girls from different agencies.

[QUOTE=Pubb69;3199081]Never seen her but for a year straight she gets rave reviews than she leaves a well known agency probably not on good terms so in knowing from talking to different girls that agencies can be vicious and vindictive I would highly question some of these rumors. How many times do you see a girl leave an agency around here and go independent? Not often and when they do there is threats and harassment from the previous agency, I have heard it from several girls from different agencies.[/QUOTE]That does make perfect sense and I see how someone would draw that conclusion.

But first, I am not with that agency. Have any of my post ever made you think I was? In all of my reviews I never did one on Noa.

Second you are assuming she left the agency by her own choosing.

Third, the agency you speak of really isn't an agency. They treat each other like family. It has been said by others that is less of an agency and more of a group of girls looking out for each other. They wouldn't bad mouth anyone after the fact even if they had screwed them over. In fact they are probably pissed at me for posting this in the first place. I won't try to visit others there anymore as I doubt I would be welcome.

If I had not said anything that would have made me an accessory to it. This board is about looking out for each other. That's the reason I posted it. I knew there would be many that wouldn't believe it and that's ok. I just didn't want anyone else eating semen without their knowledge.

[QUOTE=Crtchadialhntr;3199143]That does make perfect sense and I see how someone would draw that conclusion.

But first, I am not with that agency. Have any of my post ever made you think I was? In all of my reviews I never did one on Noa.

Second you are assuming she left the agency by her own choosing.

Third, the agency you speak of really isn't an agency. They treat each other like family. It has been said by others that is less of an agency and more of a group of girls looking out for each other. They wouldn't bad mouth anyone after the fact even if they had screwed them over. In fact they are probably pissed at me for posting this in the first place. I won't try to visit others there anymore as I doubt I would be welcome.

If I had not said anything that would have made me an accessory to it. This board is about looking out for each other. That's the reason I posted it. I knew there would be many that wouldn't believe it and that's ok. I just didn't want anyone else eating semen without their knowledge.[/QUOTE]Seems almost impossible to believe a well reviewed provider acting that way. That type of behavior is beyond reckless, borders on the mentally ill. Either way I did not see her before and will not in the future but it certainly would not be the first time an agency verbally attacked a girl on leaving and I am not buying into this agency family crap, they all are vicious Mercenaries when it comes to money and using the girls that work for them. A pimp is a pimp is a pimp.

I'm not sure that xNoa is on bad terms with the agency. Just a little over a week ago, I asked her about screening and she told me that she could get in touch with someone at SensualSirens to verify that I was screened to make an appt with her (that didn't pan out) in the past.

I do believe most of what has been said, even though it is a little suspect that lots of this information is coming out now that she's left SS. And while I love asian women, I never got a chance to see Noa because she doesn't work on the weekends. Would I choose to see her now? Little head wants to, really really bad. Big head is a bit iffy. I guess we'll have to wait and see which one wins out.

But I will not DATY if little head does win that battle.

[QUOTE=Pubb69;3199081]Never seen her but for a year straight she gets rave reviews than she leaves a well known agency probably not on good terms so in knowing from talking to different girls that agencies can be vicious and vindictive I would highly question some of these rumors. How many times do you see a girl leave an agency around here and go independent? Not often and when they do there is threats and harassment from the previous agency, I have heard it from several girls from different agencies.[/QUOTE]I first saw Noa in 2015 and I knew about her preferred finish preference back then but I took it as personal choice and not as a business practice. I didn't know she actually was doing BB till March of 2016 when two other SM's mentioned it by PM. Like I said in a previous post it's not my call to put up second hand info on the board even though I personally believed it as factually info. BB is a legitimate service but people don't talk about it because it's personal and controversial. XNoa gets great reviews because the service is great, her attitude is great and she enjoys herself. Her former agency is more so a group of friends who swing together and Bobbi and her hubby combined their lifestyle into a business. They have never talked bad about former girls. I don't know the reason for xNoa parting ways but I do know the donation amount has only increased since Noa arrived and that's the reason I stopped seeing any girl on the Bobbi team earlier this year. Wow, where did 2016 go?

[QUOTE=Purple45;3199201]I first saw Noa in 2015 and I knew about her preferred finish preference back then but I took it as personal choice and not as a business practice. I didn't know she actually was doing BB till March of 2016 when two other SM's mentioned it by PM. Like I said in a previous post it's not my call to put up second hand info on the board even though I personally believed it as factually info. BB is a legitimate service but people don't talk about it because it's personal and controversial. XNoa gets great reviews because the service is great, her attitude is great and she enjoys herself. Her former agency is more so a group of friends who swing together and Bobbi and her hubby combined their lifestyle into a business. They have never talked bad about former girls. I don't know the reason for xNoa parting ways but I do know the donation amount has only increased since Noa arrived and that's the reason I stopped seeing any girl on the Bobbi team earlier this year. Wow, where did 2016 go?[/QUOTE]XNoa was like $. 8- $$. 2 for an hour in the beginning right? I was so ready to book back then, but I couldn't get screened bc I had been out of the game for so long. Ended up getting back in the game to see her, got a P411, and that still wasn't good enough. By the time I got the necessary references to see her and was approved, her rates had went up to $$. 6.

And then right after xNoa left SS, Lili and Blake's rates went up to $$. 8 for about a week. They've sense come back down a bit, but yeah 2016 has been an interesting one for sure.

[QUOTE=Pubb69;3199167]Seems almost impossible to believe a well reviewed provider acting that way. That type of behavior is beyond reckless, borders on the mentally ill. Either way I did not see her before and will not in the future but it certainly would not be the first time an agency verbally attacked a girl on leaving and I am not buying into this agency family crap, they all are vicious Mercenaries when it comes to money and using the girls that work for them. A pimp is a pimp is a pimp.[/QUOTE]Believe what you want. I didn't reply to try to change your mind only to answer your points. I don't work with SS. I wish I did, imagine the job perks. Everything I posted is 100% accurate and true. There are other members here that already knew it, I was just the one who said it.

[QUOTE=Tomas247;3199216]XNoa was like $. 8- $$. 2 for an hour in the beginning right? I was so ready to book back then, but I couldn't get screened bc I had been out of the game for so long. Ended up getting back in the game to see her, got a P411, and that still wasn't good enough. By the time I got the necessary references to see her and was approved, her rates had went up to $$. 6.

And then right after xNoa left SS, Lili and Blake's rates went up to $$. 8 for about a week. They've sense come back down a bit, but yeah 2016 has been an interesting one for sure.[/QUOTE]I remember ( $$ ) in the beginning and shortly after a few raves on the forum the amount went to ( $$ .6 ). The easiest way to see any girl on the team is to know Bobbi first or have another provider vouch for you by name. They did contact the provider I gave them to verify that I was legit. I'm not sure if they do that anymore, but it worked for me back then. I also noticed that rates went up for Lili and Blake after Noa became an independent and Bobbi returned to the business after taking some time away to care for her hubby. They do have some positive things going for them except for the rates, which is debatable, because you do get a GFE with multiple pops.

[QUOTE=Amateur11;3197773]Another reason to avoid anyone with fake / airbrushed / old pics, you will surely be disappointed (or worse). Not sure "Jersey" ever posted anything fake or airbrushed, but IIRC all her pics never changed with time. Also, no Latina should look that pale. She looks more "colorful" than a white girl, but for a Latina to be that ghostlike you know something is wrong and that's a red flag (well, should be).[/QUOTE]A fair (forgive the pun) amount of hispanics can actually be pretty pale. I think a lot comes down to how much they stay out of the sun and what their ethnic lineage really is. In some of the former colonies those who had European blood essentially practices eugenics so it's not too out of the ordinary to find hispanic people who look just like regular white people (it's very common in parts of South America).

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;3200507]A fair (forgive the pun) amount of hispanics can actually be pretty pale. I think a lot comes down to how much they stay out of the sun and what their ethnic lineage really is. In some of the former colonies those who had European blood essentially practices eugenics so it's not too out of the ordinary to find hispanic people who look just like regular white people (it's very common in parts of South America).[/QUOTE]Joe is spot on. I never saw this girl. Anyone who uses their room for our deal and also as a gallery for shooting poses a great risk even with BBBJ's. Be safe brothers. There are more out there and are very easy to spot as tell tale signs jump right out. That's why I generally use Eros and agency girls. A bit more money but it's generally a good choice.

[QUOTE=JoeLooking;3200507]A fair (forgive the pun) amount of hispanics can actually be pretty pale. I think a lot comes down to how much they stay out of the sun and what their ethnic lineage really is. In some of the former colonies those who had European blood essentially practices eugenics so it's not too out of the ordinary to find hispanic people who look just like regular white people (it's very common in parts of South America).[/QUOTE]I second this comment as I am a pretty Pale hispanic / Latino <<< different things and I can explain if someone doestn know, if I shave I could pass for white But I love having my facial hair, I sometimes ask providers to guess my ethnicy and they say I look italian, I hate hate hate goin out on the sun as my pale skin doesn't get tanned as other dark hispanics But instead gets burned and red so I avoid the sun, my dad has a house in Mexico City witch I recommend visit if you a city lover like me, Mexico City is kinda like LA but better in many ways it has its UPs and Downs just like every city, you go to one side of the city and its all ghetto looking but you go to the other side and its literally Beverly Hills with big houses and many rich people in the area, Woman is also the same some look like they pulled them out of APOCALIPTO movie (like the tribe people) and some look Very European like with green / Blue eyes and white skin even blond too (thsi is not rare in mexico), Like our brother joe looking said its prolly cause of the European bloodline that was mixed in back in the old days of Christobal Colon, my mom is from Spain and on her family side I have some female cousins that GOOD GOD BOY as sick and twisted as it sounds I wish they werent my cousins LOL.

[QUOTE=Thinredline;3209961]SM=social media.[/QUOTE]Thank. I couldn't figure out what it meant and couldn't bring myself to PM.

I went to DC this weekend, and as usual I hit up a couple of my favorite K agencies. HappyTogetherVA and ButterflyLegend.

Had an absolutely AMAZING time. These girls are the best, and I love asians, especially Koreans. They rotate girls out ever 2-3 weeks. Usually have two available at an incall apt at a time. So god damn beautiful, and all they want to do is take care of you. Real, JAV porn style DFK with mutual tongue sucking. BBBJCIM, multiple pops. Pretty much everything except Greek is available. $$. 2 for 45 min or $$. 6 for 1 hr GFE, or add. 4 for GFE Plus (CIM basically).

My question is why can't we get something like this in Raleigh? It's hard for me to believe it wouldn't be a huge hit? I've been to these places in ATL and DC. They're also in Vegas, Chicago, Boston, all over Cali, Dallas, and a few other cities.

So why not Raleigh? I don't know who runs these things or puts them together, but I hope they consider this area someday.

IMO it is the small town Southern thing. Like you can not buy liquor on Sundays.

It would probably fly here if it wasn't for that. Plus, we are usually a few years behind the times.

S.

[QUOTE=Tomas247;3211310]I went to DC this weekend, and as usual I hit up a couple of my favorite K agencies. HappyTogetherVA and ButterflyLegend.

Had an absolutely AMAZING time. These girls are the best, and I love asians, especially Koreans. They rotate girls out ever 2-3 weeks. Usually have two available at an incall apt at a time. So god damn beautiful, and all they want to do is take care of you. Real, JAV porn style DFK with mutual tongue sucking. BBBJCIM, multiple pops. Pretty much everything except Greek is available. $$. 2 for 45 min or $$. 6 for 1 hr GFE, or add. 4 for GFE Plus (CIM basically).

My question is why can't we get something like this in Raleigh? It's hard for me to believe it wouldn't be a huge hit? I've been to these places in ATL and DC. They're also in Vegas, Chicago, Boston, all over Cali, Dallas, and a few other cities.

So why not Raleigh? I don't know who runs these things or puts them together, but I hope they consider this area someday.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but Raleigh isn't so conservative. Even in VA where these K agencies are are, you can't buy liquor on Sunday. But I get what you mean.

All someone needs to do is rent out an apt, like the AAMPs do, preferably somewhere with a gate code, and fly a couple cute korean girls in when they're done in DC, ATL, or Boston. To me it seems like it would be a gold mine, but maybe the city isn't quite big enough to shelter it from certain risks.

[QUOTE=TheSting24;3211474]IMO it is the small town Southern thing. Like you can not buy liquor on Sundays.

It would probably fly here if it wasn't for that. Plus, we are usually a few years behind the times.

S.[/QUOTE]

I was watching TV last week and (This is 40) was on. The line where the girl is bad mouthing Meagan Fox's character cracked me up. "Everything that comes out of her mouth is a lie. Everything that goes in is a dick". A few people I have met on BP came to mind. Haha.

[QUOTE=Tomas247;3212743]Yeah, but Raleigh isn't so conservative. Even in VA where these K agencies are are, you can't buy liquor on Sunday. But I get what you mean.

All someone needs to do is rent out an apt, like the AAMPs do, preferably somewhere with a gate code, and fly a couple cute korean girls in when they're done in DC, ATL, or Boston. To me it seems like it would be a gold mine, but maybe the city isn't quite big enough to shelter it from certain risks.[/QUOTE]Simple. Until you get caught, it's pimping, promoting, aiding prostitution, even if you rent them a place and they do their own thing. You need to read up what went down in Seattle my friend. Guys facing 4-10 in prison for just what you describe and guys taking pleas for posting REVIEWS on a message board. Yeah, in America, posting on a forum in review format is considered "promoting" and it's a felony.

I'd rethink that plan. Best thing the girls can do is be 100% independent and not let anyone even review them. Seriously, no joke!

You think we live in a free society with an intact 1st amendment? Best think again, we don't. Look no further then what is happing to the dozens of men in Seattle facing a stack of felonies for simply posting a review of a provider. And then there is the backpage case.

[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;3214905]Simple. Until you get caught, it's pimping, promoting, aiding prostitution, even if you rent them a place and they do their own thing. You need to read up what went down in Seattle my friend. Guys facing 4-10 in prison for just what you describe and guys taking pleas for posting REVIEWS on a message board. Yeah, in America, posting on a forum in review format is considered "promoting" and it's a felony.

I'd rethink that plan. Best thing the girls can do is be 100% independent and not let anyone even review them. Seriously, no joke!

You think we live in a free society with an intact 1st amendment? Best think again, we don't. Look no further then what is happing to the dozens of men in Seattle facing a stack of felonies for simply posting a review of a provider. And then there is the backpage case.[/QUOTE]Posting is NOT considered promoting and it's a felony. Those guys got INVOLVED in running the site and the business of the girls, the ones who didn't took a plea because they didn't have the balls to fight it. Why it happened? Because they made a club and MET IN REALITY. So no, it's not for "posting reviews on a message board. ".

Backpage? The case has already been kicked because of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act which all of us knew it would be. Then the prostituter filed additional charges and the judge asked why she waited until the original charges got thrown out to do it, it was starting to look like she was using the issue for publicity and low and behold she did get elected to the Senate.

How EXACTLY would chicks "not let anyone review them?" That would only work if everybody in Raleigh lost their testicles. If they didn't fuck guys who reviewed them and everybody decided to keep reviewing them, to whom exactly would they sell pussy?

Now on the subject of the knucklehead who wants to rent an apartment I agree, that's fucking stupid to take that risk.

A2.

[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;3214905]Simple. Until you get caught, it's pimping, promoting, aiding prostitution, even if you rent them a place and they do their own thing. You need to read up what went down in Seattle my friend. Guys facing 4-10 in prison for just what you describe and guys taking pleas for posting REVIEWS on a message board. Yeah, in America, posting on a forum in review format is considered "promoting" and it's a felony.

I'd rethink that plan. Best thing the girls can do is be 100% independent and not let anyone even review them. Seriously, no joke!

You think we live in a free society with an intact 1st amendment? Best think again, we don't. Look no further then what is happing to the dozens of men in Seattle facing a stack of felonies for simply posting a review of a provider. And then there is the backpage case.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Admin2;3215334]Posting is NOT considered promoting and it's a felony. Those guys got INVOLVED in running the site and the business of the girls, the ones who didn't took a plea because they didn't have the balls to fight it. Why it happened? Because they made a club and MET IN REALITY. So no, it's not for "posting reviews on a message board. ".

Backpage? The case has already been kicked because of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act which all of us knew it would be. Then the prostituter filed additional charges and the judge asked why she waited until the original charges got thrown out to do it, it was starting to look like she was using the issue for publicity and low and behold she did get elected to the Senate.

How EXACTLY would chicks "not let anyone review them?" That would only work if everybody in Raleigh lost their testicles. If they didn't fuck guys who reviewed them and everybody decided to keep reviewing them, to whom exactly would they sell pussy?

Now on the subject of the knucklehead who wants to rent an apartment I agree, that's fucking stupid to take that risk.

A2.[/QUOTE]Whao, gents. I DO NOT want to rent an apartment. Never in a million years. But, people do it. The K girl agencies that I talked about in DC, ATL, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, etc. They all do it. My point is that SOMEONE out there is willing to do it in these bigger cities. And the Triangle area isn't small by any means. There is certainly a market for that kind of service here. And many of us guys here would certainly use it.

All I was saying is why will people do it in other cities, but they won't do it here? I feel like the risk / reward is roughly the same here as it is in any other medium to large city.

[QUOTE=Admin2;3215334]Posting is NOT considered promoting and it's a felony. Those guys got INVOLVED in running the site and the business of the girls, the ones who didn't took a plea because they didn't have the balls to fight it. Why it happened? Because they made a club and MET IN REALITY. So no, it's not for "posting reviews on a message board. ".

Backpage? The case has already been kicked because of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act which all of us knew it would be. Then the prostituter filed additional charges and the judge asked why she waited until the original charges got thrown out to do it, it was starting to look like she was using the issue for publicity and low and behold she did get elected to the Senate.

How EXACTLY would chicks "not let anyone review them?" That would only work if everybody in Raleigh lost their testicles. If they didn't fuck guys who reviewed them and everybody decided to keep reviewing them, to whom exactly would they sell pussy?

Now on the subject of the knucklehead who wants to rent an apartment I agree, that's fucking stupid to take that risk.

A2.[/QUOTE]What I read is the first round of arrests, about a dozen guys were as you described. They had the websites, directed customers, had their meetings etc. But the second round of about a dozen arrests, were just forum members who had posted reviews. I even read that they didn't understand how undercover LEO could post fake reviews and still be legal. Nobody explained that. The argument was, that by posting reviews, you are promoting because they get more customers, etc. CRAZY! There were even people yelling about bad reviews and what criteria was for for promoting. If they wrote a bad review, was it still promoting. What about a fake review? This stuff is why we have a first amendment and if these arrests stand and a judge does not toss these cases out, look out, this could apply to anything we say. I really hope I'm wrong, but that is what I read from the second wave of arrests.

To me, the law for promoting, etc at to be more clearly defined. A review writer should have to benefit financially in some way for it to be illegal.

[QUOTE=PenaltyKiller;3215469]I tried multiple times yesterday. We agreed on QV for around 2 pm, but the address she gave me was a parking lot near the fairgrounds, with no incall location in sight. Texted her, nothing. Called her, nothing. Went home, [b]then went to the Hurricanes game later.[/b]Tried again after the game was over since I was in the area, only for her to say she's not doing qv's for the evening, only hhr and hr.

But I have a weakness for thick brunettes.[/QUOTE]Thought it was clever that this guy's name is PenaltyKiller and he mentioned going to a Canes game. I don't know why but gave the review a nice touch.

[QUOTE=Trinal;3215339]Pulled the trigger on Lolah. Typical texting and set a time to drive to a well know motel on Glenwood. Got there and radio silence. Was about to leave and then finally got a text. Went in and was greeted by a messy room and cute. Plain county young one. She didn't look as good as the photo, which shows a pretty well kept gal. She had no make-up (which can be fine) but also had messy hair and just comfy cloths on. Not like the photos. She asked for the $$ and counted there right in front of me (tacky). Her attitude wasn't much better, like hurry up and get this done. I was super nice and tried to be understanding (it was getting late), but she just didn't seem to prepend to care. I asked if there was anything she didn't like or was off limits and the list began, no: obj, CBJ, fiv, kissing, no squeezing of boobs (and they are massive), mish-only. So, we get to it and she just lays there and says ok. I ask her for a 'hand' and she grabs is and tugs like she is pulling on a garden hose. I try to give her direction, but she doesn't seem interested. I take matters into my own hand and put on the hat, enter and have to say that was the best part. She was tight and moaned. Sexy, but then said it hurt too much. She asked me to pull out and then rubbed lanacane and lube on herself telling me how sore she was. Kind of a mood killer. I went back in after this and started a little very light nipple play. She has huge tits and wanted to get them erect. She said it hurt too much, I asked to kiss them and she said she wouldn't recommend it because the last guy slobbered all over her and she did shower yet. WTF! I was like okay, I just pound one out. She must have been thinking the same thing because 5 min into is she said "can you hurry up and finish quickly, this hurts". I know the quicker way will be doggy so I ask and she says okay but not deep. She bends over only slightly and puts her legs together. I barley get in and try to banging out, while she moans away. I feel like she is not liking it so I ask if miss is better, she agrees and I finish mish in the bag. I dump and flush and she asks if I can take the wrapper with me. Are you kidding. I get dressed while she complains of the last guy and tells me how tired she is. Well, lesson learned! $$ lost in 15 min. What a shame, she seems sweet but is not into this job and just doesn't seem to understand the basics. Boys save your money.

[URL]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/lolah-new-pictures-upscale-petite-sexy-and-classy-lady-respectful-gentlemen-only/32630424[/URL][/QUOTE]I really wanted to see her and tried last week. She asked me how big I was. I told her quite a few providers said I was large or above average. She tells me I can't see you. WTF. Maybe I shoulda lied.... If it hurts that bad maybe you are in the wrong business.

Lillah / Lohlah was a sweetheart when I saw her a few weeks ago but she did seem to be getting herself sore and mentioned size. The second time I saw her she was even complaining a bit but man her body was so hot and she was still nice so it did not ruin the experience.

Isn't it more the friction that gets them than the size? Heather limits dick size too. I would like to help her learn to like it.

I have been with plenty of tight woman who are fine or even really like big dicks. Are there any tips we can give them to handle it better or even enjoy it?

[QUOTE=Gcthe1;3215697]I really wanted to see her and tried last week. She asked me how big I was. I told her quite a few providers said I was large or above average. She tells me I can't see you. WTF. Maybe I shoulda lied.... If it hurts that bad maybe you are in the wrong business.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChaphillMan;3216526]Lillah / Lohlah was a sweetheart when I saw her a few weeks ago but she did seem to be getting herself sore and mentioned size. The second time I saw her she was even complaining a bit but man her body was so hot and she was still nice so it did not ruin the experience.

Isn't it more the friction that gets them than the size? Heather limits dick size too. I would like to help her learn to like it.

I have been with plenty of tight woman who are fine or even really like big dicks. Are there any tips we can give them to handle it better or even enjoy it?[/QUOTE]Lube, lube and more lube. Then ease it in slowly and re lube. Spit and pressure technique is not perfered.

Unfortunately it is size, and not a lot can be done about it. Of course, a good lube does help. Other tricks are starting very slow, and even just laying there (inserted) can help a girl relax a bit, but really comes down down the "fit". Several I would like to see, but have srated away based on reviews like those below.

If someone out there knows something I don't, would also like the advice!

[QUOTE=ChaphillMan;3216526]Lillah / Lohlah was a sweetheart when I saw her a few weeks ago but she did seem to be getting herself sore and mentioned size. The second time I saw her she was even complaining a bit but man her body was so hot and she was still nice so it did not ruin the experience.

Isn't it more the friction that gets them than the size? Heather limits dick size too. I would like to help her learn to like it.

I have been with plenty of tight woman who are fine or even really like big dicks. Are there any tips we can give them to handle it better or even enjoy it?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gibbs70;3216953]Unfortunately it is size, and not a lot can be done about it. Of course, a good lube does help. Other tricks are starting very slow, and even just laying there (inserted) can help a girl relax a bit, but really comes down down the "fit". Several I would like to see, but have srated away based on reviews like those below.

If someone out there knows something I don't, would also like the advice![/QUOTE]Jimmy Christmas how big are you guys that all these women who see probably 10-15 dicks a day are saying you're too big? Come on man, these girls know how to act and manipulate on a level most don't get. The issue is not your "SIZE" the issue is these girls are doing something for money only and the vagina, has a mind of it's own when the girl is not into you. It's like when us guys start thinking and junior don't want to perform, only for the female species. Every guy on the internet is packing 8-10 inches, but in real life 95% of every last one of you dudes are between 5-7 inches. Look it up. Anything above 7 is starting to get rare. Sure it exists, but these girls are seeing 95% dicks between 5-7 inches all day long. They probably almost all feel the same to them. This is a mental thing for some girls and it's likely related to not being into what they are doing. I'm packing exactly 7, right on the nose when I'm rock solid and I'm thicker then average. And trust me, I'm not tearing up any girl I've been with. They all can take. Sure, I've felt the end of the love cannel with many, if not most women, but it does not bother them if they are wanting you. In fact, most like it.

DirtyDeeds,

I see the parallel in what you describe. So the more they are into it the less they will be concerned about the size. What are the best ways to get them prepared mentally?

Chap.

[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;3216986]Jimmy Christmas how big are you guys that all these women who see probably 10-15 dicks a day are saying you're too big? Come on man, these girls know how to act and manipulate on a level most don't get. The issue is not your "SIZE" the issue is these girls are doing something for money only and the vagina, has a mind of it's own when the girl is not into you. It's like when us guys start thinking and junior don't want to perform, only for the female species. Every guy on the internet is packing 8-10 inches, but in real life 95% of every last one of you dudes are between 5-7 inches. Look it up. Anything above 7 is starting to get rare. Sure it exists, but these girls are seeing 95% dicks between 5-7 inches all day long. They probably almost all feel the same to them. This is a mental thing for some girls and it's likely related to not being into what they are doing. I'm packing exactly 7, right on the nose when I'm rock solid and I'm thicker then average. And trust me, I'm not tearing up any girl I've been with. They all can take. Sure, I've felt the end of the love cannel with many, if not most women, but it does not bother them if they are wanting you. In fact, most like it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChaphillMan;3217054]DirtyDeeds,

I see the parallel in what you describe. So the more they are into it the less they will be concerned about the size. What are the best ways to get them prepared mentally?

Chap.[/QUOTE]The key is to hit it not like a 22 year old boy who does not know what he has, hit it like a 52 year old Man that knows how to treat what he's got. Any fool can pump and dump and write a review. Be skilled my friends and you will reap the benefits. Practice on your wives, you will be amazed. Number of posts has nothing to do with knowledge. I am 7 X6. 25 Never any complaints from those that deserve a good "session".