It's About Spending The Extra Money !!!!
I don't wanna spend the extra money. But sometimes it is worth it?
Most time these SW's are taking you to a home they use for various reasons, and fs is just one. Most time unless you really look like a sucker, you shouldn't have a problem, become both of them want a piece of that money you are paying, and they want you to come back. Most time I get the owner telling me that I can use their place anytime even without her. I have at times, but I always do with a lot of caution.
I rarely use the notels, unless I have something "big" going on, like a 3-4-moresome, or she is one of the rare fine, decent, SW's needing to make some quick money, and time is on your side, along with money.
Here in cincy. You can find what you want with timing, patience, knowledge, money, communication, skills, and some good luck!
That sounds like a lot, but it really is what you have already. Once you develop it you are in like flint.
You have to be willing to be bold, but cautious too. There are a lot of women out there who see sex4money, no problem as long as the approach is right, they have trust in you, they really need the money. I have been given the eye at convenient corner stores, places to eat at, and walking findlay market.
I communication with members across this area, and the country, and have visited and personally meet a few and share info, and they tell me a few things about SW action here I did not know. It just can't be posted like it use to be, because le, steps in, and party over.
Some of us still bar hop, and that is how info is shared. This is how we share about the ho houses, the family home teams, and more info. It is the inside info, that is critical, and the least shared.
We even use the net to meet up and confirm information, beyond this site/forum.
Lastly, if le would spend less time busting SW's, they would get more information on wanted criminals they are after. I have hear so much info, on crimes, and where these criminals are hiding. It is a risky thing to hear about, as well as tell/know about. SW's know the streets, and the hidden facts of the streets. They don't want to help the same police force that keeps on arresting them. Especially since they won't arrest the fags.
And the fags have the same info to and more. A lot of those so-called manly drug boyz, pick up those fags at night, so you can imagine, what information is revealed. Many of these boyz are downlow boyz.
Street knowledge is the key!
[QUOTE=Lucky Luke]What you said is true about this. It does not look they want any trouble too.My game plan is cut and lose whatever the money damage is if I sense any trouble and it worked fine so far.
It tried FS but never worked so far for me because of location. Once I did it in sandiego but I could rent a place for hourly rate.I wish we could do something like this in Cincy. If anyone knows like that,please PM me.[/QUOTE]
Check Out The Honolulu Forum! Street Stings .... !!!!
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This should be in the general report, but we are talking about the streets.
This is Not really the season for STINGS outdoors, for it is too cold right now, so LE is working on the Craigslist Stings, along with other internet STINGS, but it is always a point that once you know/find-out, if you can post it.
If you can please take a look at the Honolulu board and see it. They posted pix of a Police Sting going on, and for their area those pix are priceless.
That is the kind of information we need here on this board. Not everyone carries a camera on them, but many of the fellas here do. If you see a possible street sting going on, take a pix if you can, several and expose them as they are taking to expose us.
If people know who these decoys are and where they stand, few member of this forum will be caught-up in the any stings. This is not guaranteed, but it does help greatly.
It is very hard for most of us to pull out a camera and start shooting stings as we see them, but we need to start doing something. I have seen Giani & Harpos pix of LE activity, especially sitting back in the church lots watching from a distance. I have seen them there and never took a pick, but I have to change that too.
The Bust of the innocent guy in Columbus is too much. If they want to play those kinds of games then lets make it HARDER, for them to WIN at it. I won't be surprised if this guy wasn't setup, in some way, shape, or form.
Keep you eyes to the streets, and cultivate SW's you can trust in, because they will give you the street 411, and even take to warn you in advance, if they see you driving.
This is basic, but it won't be this cold, but only a few more months, and the warm weather and street stings will be back. It is important that we remind each other about the basics, and to reread some of the Monger Rules to refresh ourselves.
Lastly asking basic questions, is a sure way NOT to get answer. Read the archives, and learn the street. Nothing is worse than answering questions that really are obvious, especially posting them. Try PMing the poster, and get an answer directly. We have talked about this before. Old Hat.
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Look for no-tel recommendation.
I will be visiting Cinci over the weekend of the 30th and was looking for a no-tel that was safe yet close to the action. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Also, PM me if that's easier for you.
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Winter Freeze Has Set In, but...
My friend for whom I post pictures had his feathers ruffled the last time I posted pix for him because some lame dude (who has posted WHAT again???), didn't like a little peach fuzz on the providers lip... My take is... so what? Offer me a Hollywood starlet with perfect everything, and (if I can afford it) I will be most grateful.
To all who would use a fine toothed comb to find fault, let's see what you got. We will all be grateful for any good stuff you post. Otherwise... We respect your first amendment rights, but not you. Remember that those of us who work the streets and enjoy the cruise, may not be able to afford the $$$ or more for top of the line. Excuse our blue collars. But we do occasionally find the diamond in the rough.
My rant aside, my friend offers these pix he thoughtfully took to share with us. If you like them, show it by posting some pix of your own! Or pass on your thanks to my friend.
And yes, this weather is keeping both providers and mongers off the streets. How about you guys who have access to digits that work? Any off street action?
Giani
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Shooting Close Up Pictures
[QUOTE=Giani]. To all who would use a fine toothed comb to find fault, let's see what you got. We will all be grateful for any good stuff you post. Otherwise. We respect your first amendment rights, but not you. Remember that those of us who work the streets and enjoy the cruise, may not be able to afford the $$$ or more for top of the line. Excuse our blue collars. But we do occasionally find the diamond in the rough. If you like them, show it by posting some pix of your own! Or pass on your thanks to my friend.[/QUOTE]I say good shots Giani. The Cincinnati board has a low picture postings compared to other boards. I really liked the fact your shots were taken during sun light. Would like to see more of the girls face or her tongue action. Taking pictures in the car presents some challenges. It's especially challenging taking a head shot while receiving some head!
The series of shots you've taken shows the stages the girl went through on her technique from start to finish. Like stills from a movie.
The camera you use, does it have a micro setting for close ups? Only suggestion would be try different angles or like what "Cookie Jar" does in his shots with the girls. He has them topless, bottomless setting in the passenger's seat or next to the car. I know it's winter now but spring will be here soon. However, thanks for the pics and try some more creative shots.
I'll post some pictures I've taken lately and these are close ups and extreme close ups. I welcome your thoughts and comments.
Harpo2U
Experience with escorts---newbie to the SW scene
Guys,
I am a newbie to the SW scene. (I've used escorts and AMPs for years, but no experience with SWs.)
I made a post in another forum here basically saying that all SWs are to be avoided. If I had offended any of you, I'm sorry. I had admittedly based most of my opinion on what I've seen on TV, where the SWs are invariably toothless 50-year-olds!
After looking at the pics of "Red" in the post below, I am willing to admit that I may have been hasty. (That one is as nice as escorts that I have paid $200 350.) I also saw a post featuring street scenes from 2008 (a few pages back) and it looks like there may have been some nice ones.
I like young (18 27) ladies who are in good shape. Is this readily available in the SW scene?
Also, OTR seems to be where you're all going. Are there other places in town that are a bit safer? Are there any places on the East Side? (Excuse me if this is a dumb question.)
I admittedly don't know what I'm doing here. So any newbie advice would be most appreciated ****
Finally, it seems that I may have been overpaying for years! Before the current economic downturn, I would have dropped $250 on a girl like Red without even thinking about it.
How much *does* an SW typically cost?
Sorry for all the questions. I have tried to make up for it by posting info in the escort, CL and AMP forums, where I have a lot of experience.
Thanks, guys!
Cameras, SW faces, and venues for "shoots..."
I have the following replies from my friend who took the pictures:
Venues for "shoots": Occasionally the venue is inside, but for those who cruise the streets for SWs, renting a room has problems of cost, time constraints, and leaving a traceable trail. There is no doubt that pix taken in a room can be better composed, more dependable lighting and offer greater variety of perspectives.
Cookiejar's pix... what can I say. He is probably the number one poster of pix on USASG, the good, the bad and the ugly. (Lots of the latter) I am grateful for his postings, but personally would like to see more action shots, and that are a little more aesthetic. I am amazed that he can get so many full face shots. I wonder what he pays them.
SW faces: In very large cities, perhaps SW identity is more difficult to assess. But in Cinti, it is relatively easy for LE to identify the girls, potentially causing problems for all concerned. No doubt about it, full face with eyes focused on the camera are much hotter. But my friend will continue to make an effort to obscure and SW's identity. He always offers an extra tip (only 0.05 or 0.1) for photo privileges. Invariably, the SW requires that her face not be shown. Usually she does not know the pix may be posted, and I have heard complaints from SWs that their pix DID show up.
My friend's camera does have the macro function, and he said he took the recent set of pix with that feature in use. He said he might try to get a few ultra close ups in the future. BTW, shooting at night in a car requires flash, a beacon to LE etc who may be around.
In the interim, I value the following in forum posts:
1) hotness and degree of action: I far prefer action pix to body or body part shots)
2) attractiveness of the SW: DUH... besides nice proportions, no skin flaps, or serious flaws.
3) size, focus and resolution: there is no good reason not to post pictures close to the allowed 646x646. (Doesn't everyone have photo editing soft ware? Just resize the cropped image to this size. I find postage stamp posts irritating. And unfocused pix frustrating.
4) No professional pix: the picture must be actually taken by 'one of us,' not a professional photographer. (Posting of professional shots leaves me relatively cold unless for a particular purpose that advances the board.)
Thanks for your good posts. To those who follow the PhotoGallery, keep track of the number of hits each picture gets. If one uses hits as an indicator of value to the board, Both Harpo and I have a pretty good track records. For instance, this picture I posted a week ago has scored 1177 hits in seven days:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69090[/url]
And a picture Harpo posted only four days ago has 604 hits:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=69296[/url]
Giani
[QUOTE=Harpo2u]... I really liked the fact your shots were taken during sun light. Would like to see more of the girls face or her tongue action. Taking pictures in the car presents some challenges. It's especially challenging taking a head shot while receiving some head!
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The camera you use, does it have a micro setting for close ups? Only suggestion would be try different angles or like what "Cookie Jar" does in his shots with the girls. He has them topless, bottomless setting in the passenger's seat or next to the car....However, thanks for the pics and try some more creative shots.
Harpo2U[/QUOTE]
SW's 18-27, costs, etc.????
Like most newbies you ask questions that are answered if you simply read these forums. While I don't monger in the Queen City, I do roll, report, and find what you are looking for up the road in Dayton. And I know from reading your Cincy forum what you want is there too. The donations start at .15 for a BJ and .35 for FS; and go up. I've never paid above .80 for BBBJ + FS, and that was for an 18yo built like a brick house, no kids, and a face of 8-9, bod of 10+, no marks, or.... I've also had under 21yo SW's, near 10 in looks in every way; BJ + FS, + DATY, + GFE for as little as .40+.10 tip.
And I tend to overpay. The gents of your board are far better negotiators than I seem to be. Now having said all this, I rarely stumble across these "finds" on 1 or 2 rolls thru the venues. But if you put in 2, 3, 4 hours an eve, day or night, you'll find what you are looking for; I do in several different towns I visit. Of course, I frequently settle for a 30+yo; one that appeals to me in looks and bod, and if her attitute is amicable, off we go. If her attitude is poor, I let her out. About 5-10% are cut loose for poor attitude. Oh, and most of these 30yo have the best attitudes, skills, cooperation, compared to the young hotties.
As, for escorts, CL, etc; well I chose to stretch my dollar further and have no experience with your side of the hobby, so I speak from my own little experience. Read a few of my posts; the darlings are out there if you will take the time this hobby requires. I think one night I rolled for 5.5 hours. Can't remember what I found, but I always find an acceptible SW and get a nice nut.
Don't be lazzy. Be safe and good hunting. MW
[QUOTE=Todd Cincy]Guys,
I am a newbie to the SW scene. (I've used escorts and AMPs for years, but no experience with SWs.)
I made a post in another forum here basically saying that all SWs are to be avoided. If I had offended any of you, I'm sorry. I had admittedly based most of my opinion on what I've seen on TV, where the SWs are invariably toothless 50-year-olds!
After looking at the pics of "Red" in the post below, I am willing to admit that I may have been hasty. (That one is as nice as escorts that I have paid $200 350.) I also saw a post featuring street scenes from 2008 (a few pages back) and it looks like there may have been some nice ones.
I like young (18 27) ladies who are in good shape. Is this readily available in the SW scene?
Also, OTR seems to be where you're all going. Are there other places in town that are a bit safer? Are there any places on the East Side? (Excuse me if this is a dumb question.)
I admittedly don't know what I'm doing here. So any newbie advice would be most appreciated ****
Finally, it seems that I may have been overpaying for years! Before the current economic downturn, I would have dropped $250 on a girl like Red without even thinking about it.
How much *does* an SW typically cost?
Sorry for all the questions. I have tried to make up for it by posting info in the escort, CL and AMP forums, where I have a lot of experience.
Thanks, guys![/QUOTE]