Cuddlers

I'm pleased to share the information. I hope it continues to inspire some conversation and keep this thread alive. It's an interesting pursuit, this Cuddling Game. I'm wired a bit differently when it comes to all this: I need some sort of psychological challenge, or it just isn't quite as much fun.

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Sammy478. I saw this one and she is hotter than her pictures. Incredible body, pretty cool attitude until it comes time to talk money. She up-charges at least for me. But was a good fuck and finished with a load deep inside her. She is a flake though and was in a cheap hotel on Aurora when I saw her. I won't see her again.[/QUOTE]Haven't been successful with her. She wanted me to pay for train ride from portland and also host which seems contrary to posts here.

[QUOTE=GameMaker007;7400392]Haven't been successful with her. She wanted me to pay for train ride from portland and also host which seems contrary to posts here.[/QUOTE]I can't speak to the frequency of her Seattle visits anymore, but I do know that it happens. She lists Seattle as a secondary city on her Cuddle Comfort profile, and she also exists as "raygun857" on Cuddle Companions with Seattle being her primary city. I imagine she probably comes up this way when she thinks she can profitably "tour" with new requests and the smattering of regulars that she has managed to retain.

All that to say: I recommend you just tell her that you'd be happy to see her when she is coming up next, and wait it out. She'll do it eventually. She typically gets an AirBnB when she does, so there wouldn't be any need to host. But also, don't hold your breath. One of the reasons I dropped her is because scheduling was like pulling teeth. She's pretty good in bed and I'd rail her when she was in town and convenient for me, but that is the extent of the effort I'd put into that girl.

Dang. 350 for a 2-hr cuddle. And the extras were ala carte?

I've tried to crack the code: which cuddlers are more likely to provide a sexy cuddle instead of a platonic cuddle? Profile pics have helped a bit, this thread has helped a LOT, and I've assumed that hourly rates are a possible indicator of extras. In your experience, does a higher hourly rate correspond with extras?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=BoredTooEasily;7400406]I can't speak to the frequency of her Seattle visits anymore, but I do know that it happens. She lists Seattle as a secondary city on her Cuddle Comfort profile, and she also exists as "raygun857" on Cuddle Companions with Seattle being her primary city. I imagine she probably comes up this way when she thinks she can profitably "tour" with new requests and the smattering of regulars that she has managed to retain.

All that to say: I recommend you just tell her that you'd be happy to see her when she is coming up next, and wait it out. She'll do it eventually. She typically gets an AirBnB when she does, so there wouldn't be any need to host. But also, don't hold your breath. One of the reasons I dropped her is because scheduling was like pulling teeth. She's pretty good in bed and I'd rail her when she was in town and convenient for me, but that is the extent of the effort I'd put into that girl.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Original703;7401028]Dang. 350 for a 2-hr cuddle. And the extras were ala carte?[/QUOTE]Well. No. I saw her under her Cuddle Comfort profile, which (a) was $125 / Hour at the time, and (b) did not require a 2-Hour minimum. I don't do deposits and what-not unless absolutely mandatory, and it sure as hell wasn't in this case. The extras came at no-charge for me, but I was fortunate to catch her early in her "cuddling" journey. She would have definitely up-charged me had I encountered her with some experience under her belt, and just before I stopped seeing her, she did start making strong hints about "tipping her. " Haha, nope. Thanks for the pussy, babe.

[QUOTE=Original703;7401028] I've tried to crack the code: which cuddlers are more likely to provide a sexy cuddle instead of a platonic cuddle? Profile pics have helped a bit, this thread has helped a LOT, and I've assumed that hourly rates are a possible indicator of extras. In your experience, does a higher hourly rate correspond with extras?[/QUOTE]You'd think so, wouldn't you? If anything, it actually works the *other* direction: Girls with lower rates are more apt to offer extras. They do this because they want to keep the "base experience" affordable, so they can upcharge for the extras without it breaking the bank for the guy.

Here's a perfect example: [URL]https://www.cuddlecomfort.com/raven88[/URL] I think we can agree that she's easily in the top quartile for attractiveness amongst PNW cuddlers, and based on that alone, *should* be charging more like $150/ H. But she charges much less. Why? Because that's just the admission fee for the platonic-only stuff. Get on the phone with her prior to the appointment (which she requires) and she'll flat-out tell you the extras she offers right from the jump. If you'll forgive the analogy: She's making bank from the huge mark-ups on the alcohol sales from the bar, not the tiny margins on the lunch special that she advertised on the display board out front.

So, the girls with the higher rates. What are *they* doing? More often than not, they are leveraging the fact that they are more attractive than the competition and charging a premium for being in their divine presence. Here's an extreme example: [URL]https://www.cuddlecomfort.com/cuddleangeltt[/URL] At $230/ H, one might be led to conclude that she will jerk you off with one hand while doing your taxes with the other. And maybe she will! YMMV, right? But doubtful. Extremely doubtful. The message here is very frequently "I'm hot, so I can charge more. " Full stop. It's not much different than the message from all the "former models" on Tryst that supposedly have two doctorates and speak eight languages. "Oh, I'm so exclusive! Pay me more! Pay me for my image!

How to improve your odds, then? Half of this is getting really, really good at reading profiles. It's never just "one thing" that is a giveaway; it's a combo platter of small things. Price point, type of photos, whether or not she hosts, length of bio, word choice in bio, what she says (and doesn't say) in the bit with her stats, and so on. I'm not going to write a novel on this (this shit is long enough already), but what I will tell you that this is less about looking for clues that she is inviting Sexy Fun Times, and more about observing the lack of elements that intentionally discourage those inquiries.

To wit: If a girl absolutely does not want that kind of action, she will cite the forum rules and make severe warnings about visiting such indecorous behavior upon her exalted person. Yeah, probably stay away from those, unless you're an idiot like me and relish the challenge. But, if you just see a passing "Oh, platonic only please!" note in her bio, there is a good chance she's just doing that to cover her ass with forum admin. Many of them will keep completely silent on the subject, and the rare few will be ever-so-slightly suggestive (Sammy has a line that reads "Looking forward to new acquaintances and intimate connections. " Well, yahoo.)

Once you've opened dialogue with your target, the other half of this is having excellent "soft skills. " Be charming, be funny, listen to her, get to know her, yada-yada-yada. I mean, sure, some of them will make it lay-down easy for you and just text you their fucking menu. Order your value combo of choice. But there are a lot of these women -- mainly the attractive ones, if I'm honest -- that are the epitome of YMMV and will wait to see how they feel about you in person before deciding whether to open the doors to the holy temple. That's where the soft skills come in. If you can make her feel special, and somehow make yourself feel "different than the others" to her, your batting average will skyrocket. After all, they are girls on a cuddle forum. They are deliberately electing to get as intimate as you can while clothed, with a complete stranger, and get paid for it. They aren't stupid. They know what's up and a lot of them are into it. But you have to show them "respect" first -- let them know that you wouldn't ever dream that they are anything other than the innocent angels that they are.

Then you fuck them and it's glorious. The whole time they are all "Oh golly, I never do this!" and you're all "Wow, I know, I feel so special!" You're lying, she's lying. It's fucking awesome.

Jesus Chris, this was a long post. Sorry if I put anyone to sleep.

I suppose I should say this as a post-script: My last post primarily refers to the girls in the "Ambiguous Middle Ground" of the cuddle forums.

Here's what I mean: On one end of the spectrum, you get the Platonic-Only who actually think they are running a legit business, along with the psuedo-shamans who fancy themselves to be conduits of healing. Unlikely to get balls-deep in those women. On the other side, you've got the Obvious Pros -- chicks who are escorts elsewhere (there are a couple of them) or otherwise being very hint-hint about it all. Sure, those are easy wins, but why bother? Just go to TNA or whatever.

The meat of the bell curve are the "Will She, Won't She?" girls. This is where you don't really know going in and need to come ready for battle. Note that the more attractive they are, the harder the nut they will be to crack.

It is worth all the effort? I think it is. Personally, I love the thrill of the hunt. Yeah, sometimes it all ends up being an expensive hug. But when you win, boy-oh-boy, you win big. There is never any discussion about GFE, Not-GFE, Services, etc. When they do fuck you, they fuck you like they would their boyfriend. Not a condom to be seen (most of the time), clock goes out the window, and because they aren't escorts in the strict sense of the word, they are usually drug-free, drama-free, and disease-free. Frequently, you can get all this for just the cuddle rate, but even when there is an up-charge, you are still paying less than what you would for a TNA / STG girl that looks *much* worse.

[QUOTE=BoredTooEasily;7401128]I suppose I should say this as a post-script: My last post primarily refers to the girls in the "Ambiguous Middle Ground" of the cuddle forums.

Here's what I mean: On one end of the spectrum, you get the Platonic-Only who actually think they are running a legit business, along with the psuedo-shamans who fancy themselves to be conduits of healing. Unlikely to get balls-deep in those women. On the other side, you've got the Obvious Pros -- chicks who are escorts elsewhere (there are a couple of them) or otherwise being very hint-hint about it all. Sure, those are easy wins, but why bother? Just go to TNA or whatever.

The meat of the bell curve are the "Will She, Won't She?" girls. This is where you don't really know going in and need to come ready for battle. Note that the more attractive they are, the harder the nut they will be to crack.

It is worth all the effort? I think it is. Personally, I love the thrill of the hunt. Yeah, sometimes it all ends up being an expensive hug. But when you win, boy-oh-boy, you win big. There is never any discussion about GFE, Not-GFE, Services, etc. When they do fuck you, they fuck you like they would their boyfriend. Not a condom to be seen (most of the time), clock goes out the window, and because they aren't escorts in the strict sense of the word, they are usually drug-free, drama-free, and disease-free. Frequently, you can get all this for just the cuddle rate, but even when there is an up-charge, you are still paying less than what you would for a TNA / STG girl that looks *much* worse.[/QUOTE]AMG is precisely what I like about Bikini Baristas. Getting to cracking the nut with the few you can for take out.

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So, the girls with the higher rates. What are *they* doing? More often than not, they are leveraging the fact that they are more attractive than the competition and charging a premium for being in their divine presence. Here's an extreme example: [URL]https://www.cuddlecomfort.com/cuddleangeltt[/URL] At $230/ H, one might be led to conclude that she will jerk you off with one hand while doing your taxes with the other. And maybe she will! YMMV, right? But doubtful. Extremely doubtful. The message here is very frequently "I'm hot, so I can charge more. " Full stop. It's not much different than the message from all the "former models" on Tryst that supposedly have two doctorates and speak eight languages. "Oh, I'm so exclusive! Pay me more! Pay me for my image!

[/QUOTE]I know this one is used as an example for instructional purposes, but fuck, she doesn't even host, so throw out another 100+ for a hotel:

"My cuddle sessions are available exclusively in public spaces for safety and comfort. While hotels are a common choice, clients may also book sessions in private office spaces or other appropriate public venues if permitted.

Ideal Locations Include:

✔65039;Hotels (client-booked).

✔65039; Private office spaces.

✔65039; Lounge areas in coworking spaces.

✔65039; Other secure, professional settings".

Jfc.

[QUOTE=ScotchYoke;7401975]I know this one is used as an example for instructional purposes, but fuck, she doesn't even host, so throw out another 100+ for a hotel:[/QUOTE]The fact that she has 0 karma after being on the site for 8 months keeps me sane. In an alternate universe if she was on TNA she would charge 800/ hr and pick up a dozen fawning reviews in that time period.

[QUOTE=Donato21;7402016]The fact that she has 0 karma after being on the site for 8 months keeps me sane. In an alternate universe if she was on TNA she would charge 800/ hr and pick up a dozen fawning reviews in that time period.[/QUOTE]And her "Things I Hate Discussing" list would read like War & Peace, too. Don't forget those generous multi-session discounts. Save up to 8%! Everything must go!

I honestly don't care what these girls charge. To me, it's just a data point. If CuddleAngelTT were to teleport from way the fuck over in Gig Harbor to sitting on my lap right now, wearing nothing but a smile, and told me that I could bend her over my kitchen island and flip a coin for my port of entry while she quacks like a duck -- all for the low, low price of $800 (sorry kids, no repeat customer discount quite yet) -- I'm a solid favorite to spice up my Friday evening.

But all the pretentiousness that I read into her profile just turns me right off. She just throws out "I'm going to be an ice queen" vibes -- at least, that's my read. I tend to rely fairly heavily on my intuition, for better or for worse.

I saw that a provider I was in talks with got banned.

[URL]https://www.cuddlecomfort.com/MissFaith[/URL]

Anyone know the story or an alternate way to contact?

[QUOTE=HugoAGogo;7404600]I saw that a provider I was in talks with got banned.

[URL]https://www.cuddlecomfort.com/MissFaith[/URL]

Anyone know the story or an alternate way to contact?[/QUOTE]I saw Faith several times earlier this year. I do not know the circumstances behind her banning, but I know that she gave me her cell number on the website without getting a "booking" first, which is a no-no. She didn't get punished for it at the time, but she probably got too careless with repeated violations and the admins finally dropped the hammer. That's my guess.

She has made no effort to come back and told me a couple months ago that she was "done cuddling. ".

I can only suggest that you keep an eye out to see if she changes her mind and creates another profile. She's worth it. Cute, friendly, and if she likes you, extras are there. BBFSCIP for me, no upcharge, but it took me until Visit #3 to get there.

I had that once man. It was the most amazing thing ever. She was a young and gorgeous girl next door better looking than any girl you can find on any of the websites. When they do you because they are into you and they want to, it is on another level. The last time I saw her it was supposed to be a 2 hour session but she ended up staying for 4 hours and at the end I had to remind her that I have to pay her. And then she said that "If you want to see me you don't have to book a session, just text me and we can go for drinks or whatever". I said I would text her the next week, but didn't because I am a complete idiot who didn't want any strings. I still regret it to this day. I did text her couple months later but by then she was pissed or heartbroken and she said she didn't want to see me again and she also deleted her CC profile.

[QUOTE=BoredTooEasily;7401128]I suppose I should say this as a post-script: My last post primarily refers to the girls in the "Ambiguous Middle Ground" of the cuddle forums.

But when you win, boy-oh-boy, you win big. There is never any discussion about GFE, Not-GFE, Services, etc. When they do fuck you, they fuck you like they would their boyfriend. Not a condom to be seen (most of the time), clock goes out the window, and because they aren't escorts in the strict sense of the word, they are usually drug-free, drama-free, and disease-free. Frequently, you can get all this for just the cuddle rate, but even when there is an up-charge, you are still paying less than what you would for a TNA / STG girl that looks *much* worse.[/QUOTE]

And who was that with?

[QUOTE=Nomadness;7405246]I had that once man. It was the most amazing thing ever. She was a young and gorgeous girl next door better looking than any girl you can find on any of the websites. When they do you because they are into you and they want to, it is on another level. The last time I saw her it was supposed to be a 2 hour session but she ended up staying for 4 hours and at the end I had to remind her that I have to pay her. And then she said that "If you want to see me you don't have to book a session, just text me and we can go for drinks or whatever". I said I would text her the next week, but didn't because I am a complete idiot who didn't want any strings. I still regret it to this day. I did text her couple months later but by then she was pissed or heartbroken and she said she didn't want to see me again and she also deleted her CC profile.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RandyDarwin;7405416]And who was that with?[/QUOTE]Dear penthouse, you are not going to believe me.