[QUOTE=Bmarr77;6312627]I wonder if this is the same dancer who was working during dayshift and had big glasses, thanks for the heads up MM.[/QUOTE]Bmarr, yes same dancer.
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[QUOTE=Bmarr77;6312627]I wonder if this is the same dancer who was working during dayshift and had big glasses, thanks for the heads up MM.[/QUOTE]Bmarr, yes same dancer.
[QUOTE=VirCof;6312720]Is it this girl? Ig at itscbabyxoxo.
This one is from legends.[/QUOTE]VC,
I don't think so this girl looks different.
MM.
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;6313347]She picked the wrong guy to try to rob![/QUOTE]Thanks PL, it always pays to stay calm, and firmly explain you are good customer of many dancers here. I had been back to the VIP just 20 minutes earlier with my regular girl and there was no drama.
The clubs in general protect guys from this predatory behavior, especially when it comes to new girls just starting. This drama is bad for everyone.
If we couldn't agree on a price point that fine others might be able to, but doing it the way she did is lose for me, lose for her, lose for Criket.
MM.
[QUOTE=Smdiw81;6313919]Curly blonde?[/QUOTE]S81,
Yes curly blond, but dyed blond. Her natural color is brunette, and she has about 6 inches of brunette hair and then 8 inches of blond hair below it.
MM.
I was out last night and went to BTs, one of the reasons is I didn't want the drama of dealing with CeeCee at Criket again.
I arrived shortly after nightshift started and CeeCee is called to dance on stage. It is the same CeeCee.
I tipped her a dollar and said hello hustler. She smiled sweetly and shook her ass at me. I was happy that she avoided me after that. She did not go to the VIP during the 2 hours I was there.
Perhaps she learned her lesson or others will have better experiences with her.
I would be very clear with timing, activities, skip fees, what happens if she is called to dance while you are in the VIP if you choose to give CeeCee a try.
MM.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;6312167]Problem at Criket:
As I am getting ready to leave CeeCee sits down with me. I had tipped her earlier in the evening.
She is a skinny white girl with small pierced nipples, flat stomach, a few tattoos, a bad dye job on her hair, really big glasses that look cute on her face. Looks are subjective but she is one of the few attractive girls in Criket.
She is pretty touchy feely at the table and starts talking about VIP. She is an ex-Flight Club girl so I probably should have said no, based on this as I have had so many bad experiences with Flight Club girls. She tells me I can have the works for $350. I told her that her price point is way off, she is not dancing at Flight Club. She says she charges $450 at Flight Club.
I say I was just about to leave, but I offer to take her back for 1 dance so we can build some chemistry and then next time I come in we can discuss a more reasonable price.
She does a decent dance and when the song ends I pay her $25. She says we were back here for 3 songs and I owe her $75 dollars. This kind of drama I don't need.
I reply no way, I am going to ask the VIP attendant. She bolts out of the VIP ahead of me and runs over to the attendant and says how many songs was I back there? He tells the truth and says 1 song. I have to remember to tip him next time I am in. I wish Ceecee a good night and depart while she stays in the VIP and is still arguing with the attendant.
Maybe others will have a better experience, but I recommend avoiding CeeCee.
MM.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;6315943]S81,
Yes curly blond, but dyed blond. Her natural color is brunette, and she has about 6 inches of brunette hair and then 8 inches of blond hair below it.
MM.[/QUOTE]Probably not the girl that I saw, then. Girl that I saw had all blonde hair.
Had 2 experiences with the all blonde girl. About a month ago, was able to get FS with her for $150. Then, last week, she says she won't do FS for anything less than 3. Similar time of the day and both in the middle of the week. YMMV, I guess.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;6315939]Bmarr, yes same dancer.[/QUOTE]I read a report of her months ago with some customer in VIP doing the same thing, trying to overcharge and caused a bunch of drama. Sounds like nothing has changed with her.
[QUOTE=Cruzer10;6312227]Oh Rose,
If that is the same Rose, I saw her a while ago, like 2021 December. She was awesome! Natural Spinner, awesome body! Was from Phoenix. If it is the same one and if anyone has seen her, PM me! Which days is she usually there! Its a long drive LOL.[/QUOTE]Sorry mate, not the same Phoenix Rose you are looking for. That Rose I have not seen since late 2021.
[QUOTE=GoBlue;6314566]Anyone have any info? She's hot but I wasn't able to partake. What is going rate for FC?[/QUOTE]Thinks too high of herself, if I recall she quoted me around $750 FS, and $400 CBJ. Tried to see how low I could get her, but she didn't budge.
[QUOTE=TimeTwist;6318133]Thinks too high of herself, if I recall she quoted me around $750 FS, and $400 CBJ. Tried to see how low I could get her, but she didn't budge.[/QUOTE]At a club? That's insane. Obviously she's playing a low volume game, hoping for the big catch. Good luck.
I was working in Detroit during the second half of 2022. It took me a while to sort through all my adventures since I went to the strip clubs on 33 nights and completed 58 trips to the VIP. I would often visit the VIP 2 times on the same night and one night I went 3 times and one night I went 4 times, and one night I couldn't find anyone to go with and left with zero VIP sessions.
19 nights I went to BTs and 20 nights I went to Criket.
I need to be attracted to both a girl's looks and attitude to take her to the VIP. My preference is for young thin fit spinners, with small firm perky natural tits, firm flat stomach, and minimal or no tattoos, piercings and make up. I watch the girls dance on stage, and I will tip $1 to a girl I find attractive and invite her sit and talk to me. While we are talking, I assess her attitude. I expect her to pay attention to me and not her cell phone. If we have good natural chemistry, she is friendly, in a good mood, and shares some information about herself, then I will agree to negotiate a VIP session.
Looks are subjective and standards of beauty are different for each guy. There are plenty of older, curvier, heavier, big breasted girls, heavily tattooed, pierced and girls wearing significant amounts of make up for those of you who prefer that.
Over 58 VIPs I spent time with 10 girls who passed both the looks and the attitude test. As always YMMV.
3 girls provided almost perfect VIPs which I enjoyed so much that I would follow these girls from club to club if they changed clubs, I suggest others try them and are likely to be happy with them.
- Skye at Criket.
- Alana at BTs.
- Aurora at BTs.
3 girls provided good VIPs and I would be willing to repeat with them but wouldn't chase them from club to club. As always YMMV.
- Nae at BTs.
- Kenzie at Criket.
- Arabella at BTs.
4 girls provided adequate sessions, I might repeat depending on who else is dancing, but prefer to try a new girl. As always YMMV.
- Vegas at BTs.
- Coco at Criket.
- Reina at BTs – after seeing her twice she told me I needed to tip her more than $1 so I stopped tipping her.
- Selena at BTs.
I did repeat sessions with every girl except for Selena.
3 girls I wanted to try but had to walk out of the VIP.
- Asia at BTs – She insisted I pay first, after that she wouldn't even talk to me when I came in the club, I tried multiple times to engage her.
- Natalie at Criket – She insisted I pay first.
- Crystal at BTs – She offered extras but then in the VIP said kissing her tits and stomach was not included. I have learned to cut my losses when a session doesn't work out and I walked out. She used to dance under China at BTs. She has beautiful long curly hair.
I have never had paying in advance work out well. I do think it is fair to show the girl you have the money so she is not being cheated, but then it goes back in my pocket until I am happy. These girls are helping you avoid bad sessions with them by insisting on payment up front, they will at best be mechanical, and at worst grab your money and walk out leaving you unhappy.
Negotiations: I always request no song count and to go to the VIP after she finishes her stage set. I was able to average paying $200 per VIP. A couple of times I negotiated lower and a couple times I paid more. Regardless of negotiated price I offer each girl a $20 - $40 tip if they exceed my expectation and succeed in making me happy during the VIP. My expectations are extremely high and it is difficult for the girls to exceed them but there were 19 times out of the 58 sessions I was so happy the girls earned my tip (largely the top 3 girls in my list). Also, for girls who I repeated with and enjoyed their company, if they would sit with me in the main room, I would buy them drinks or food. So, my total spend on the girl could be as high as $250 if I bought her a drink and she earned a tip.
Strip club alternative activities:
I hate the tiny little VIP rooms with the chairs that are too small for two people to sit on.
Despite these uncomfortable VIPs, I like going to the strip club in addition to regular VIP sessions I will sometimes take a girl for one clean dance just to feel her up. It is a unique experience. Imagine if you could walk up to any girl on the mall or the beach and say let me give you $25 to $45 to feel you up and lick your breasts for the next 3 minutes. I bet a lot of guys would eagerly do this, but most girls are not receptive to this kind of request. I enjoyed.
- Cakes at Criket twice.
- Sasha at Criket twice.
- Summer at BTs once.
And while sometimes the negotiations turn hostile or the girls get angry if you can't agree on VIP terms, but other times both people are respectful to each other, clearly communicate what they want and legitimately can't reach an agreement. I had two girls who I explained that I was very attracted to them and even though we couldn't negotiate an agreement to go to the VIP, I would like to touch them. They were both receptive to the idea and allowed me to feel them up at the table including their breasts, stomachs and inner thighs. I did not directly touch their panties. I also get a real thrill out of touching girls on the intimate parts of their bodies while others go about their business serving food and dancing on the stage. You could never do this in a restaurant that is not a strip club.
- Cleo at BTs – She insisted on paying up front even though I have taken her friend more than 10 times who allows paying at the end but she wouldn't change her mind. Although she just got breast implants so she is no longer on my list.
- Anna at BTs – He price point was too high for me, but we agreed to keep negotiating the next time we are both in the club.
Strip club enjoyment:
There are 3 distinct types of pleasures girls can provide in the club. Some guys are only interested in VIP dances and some girls only focus on VIP dances, but there are at least two other pleasures.
Female attention: Guys like it when attractive females talk to them, pay attention to them and listen to them.
Female affection: Guys like it girls hold their hand, rub their back, put their arm around them, sit in their laps.
All three kinds of activities have value (female attention, female affection and VIP dances) and are provided by the best strippers.
Most successful clean girl compete in the clubs by providing female attention and female affection to guys who are starved for female attention and affection.
MM.
[QUOTE=Lamarr;6319406]At a club? That's insane. Obviously she's playing a low volume game, hoping for the big catch. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Noel's rate has been the norm not the exception at Flight Club the last few years, regardless of shift. Landing Strip is very similar at nights. I have been quoted $500 for CBJ at both clubs. That's why most visits are just stopping in and looking at hot gals, then going elsewhere.
Excellent synopsis MM! I second your recommendation of Alana at BT's, an attractive black woman, toned body, and very good customer service. I'll have to check out the others!
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;6319455]I was working in Detroit during the second half of 2022. It took me a while to sort through all my adventures since I went to the strip clubs on 33 nights and completed 58 trips to the VIP. I would often visit the VIP 2 times on the same night and one night I went 3 times and one night I went 4 times, and one night I couldn't find anyone to go with and left with zero VIP sessions.
19 nights I went to BTs and 20 nights I went to Criket.
I need to be attracted to both a girl's looks and attitude to take her to the VIP. My preference is for young thin fit spinners, with small firm perky natural tits, firm flat stomach, and minimal or no tattoos, piercings and make up. I watch the girls dance on stage, and I will tip $1 to a girl I find attractive and invite her sit and talk to me. While we are talking, I assess her attitude. I expect her to pay attention to me and not her cell phone. If we have good natural chemistry, she is friendly, in a good mood, and shares some information about herself, then I will agree to negotiate a VIP session.
Looks are subjective and standards of beauty are different for each guy. There are plenty of older, curvier, heavier, big breasted girls, heavily tattooed, pierced and girls wearing significant amounts of make up for those of you who prefer that.
Over 58 VIPs I spent time with 10 girls who passed both the looks and the attitude test. As always YMMV.
3 girls provided almost perfect VIPs which I enjoyed so much that I would follow these girls from club to club if they changed clubs, I suggest others try them and are likely to be happy with them.
- Skye at Criket.
- Alana at BTs.
- Aurora at BTs.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TimeTwist;6319461]Noel's rate has been the norm not the exception at Flight Club the last few years, regardless of shift. Landing Strip is very similar at nights. I have been quoted $500 for CBJ at both clubs. That's why most visits are just stopping in and looking at hot gals, then going elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I find it hard to believe $750 for FS at FC is "the norm. " Please tell me guys aren't actually forking out that much consistently enough for that to land. It wasn't all that long ago $500 would get you OTC with some top talent. Prices have gone up, but I can't believe they've gone [I]that[/I] far up.
More than $300 for FS ITC, in my mind, is insanity. Maybe you go above that for logistics, like if they charge you $25 for the room or whatnot. $750 is. Checks fingers and toes. Yeah, more than double that.
If $300 won't get you FS at FC, then maybe FC is off my list for my next visit back to the D.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;6319455]I was working in Detroit during the second half of 2022. It took me a while to sort through all my adventures since I went to the strip clubs on 33 nights and completed 58 trips to the VIP. I would often visit the VIP 2 times on the same night and one night I went 3 times and one night I went 4 times, and one night I couldn't find anyone to go with and left with zero VIP sessions.
19 nights I went to BTs and 20 nights I went to Criket.
I need to be attracted to both a girl's looks and attitude to take her to the VIP. My preference is for young thin fit spinners, with small firm perky natural tits, firm flat stomach, and minimal or no tattoos, piercings and make up. I watch the girls dance on stage, and I will tip $1 to a girl I find attractive and invite her sit and talk to me. While we are talking, I assess her attitude. I expect her to pay attention to me and not her cell phone. If we have good natural chemistry, she is friendly, in a good mood, and shares some information about herself, then I will agree to negotiate a VIP session.
Looks are subjective and standards of beauty are different for each guy. There are plenty of older, curvier, heavier, big breasted girls, heavily tattooed, pierced and girls wearing significant amounts of make up for those of you who prefer that.
Over 58 VIPs I spent time with 10 girls who passed both the looks and the attitude test. As always YMMV.
3 girls provided almost perfect VIPs which I enjoyed so much that I would follow these girls from club to club if they changed clubs, I suggest others try them and are likely to be happy with them.
- Skye at Criket.
- Alana at BTs.
- Aurora at BTs.
3 girls provided good VIPs and I would be willing to repeat with them but wouldn't chase them from club to club. As always YMMV.
- Nae at BTs.
- Kenzie at Criket.
- Arabella at BTs.
4 girls provided adequate sessions, I might repeat depending on who else is dancing, but prefer to try a new girl. As always YMMV.
- Vegas at BTs.
- Coco at Criket.
- Reina at BTs after seeing her twice she told me I needed to tip her more than $1 so I stopped tipping her.
- Selena at BTs.
I did repeat sessions with every girl except for Selena.
3 girls I wanted to try but had to walk out of the VIP.
- Asia at BTs She insisted I pay first, after that she wouldn't even talk to me when I came in the club, I tried multiple times to engage her.
- Natalie at Criket She insisted I pay first.
- Crystal at BTs She offered extras but then in the VIP said kissing her tits and stomach was not included. I have learned to cut my losses when a session doesn't work out and I walked out. She used to dance under China at BTs. She has beautiful long curly hair.
I have never had paying in advance work out well. I do think it is fair to show the girl you have the money so she is not being cheated, but then it goes back in my pocket until I am happy. These girls are helping you avoid bad sessions with them by insisting on payment up front, they will at best be mechanical, and at worst grab your money and walk out leaving you unhappy.
Negotiations: I always request no song count and to go to the VIP after she finishes her stage set. I was able to average paying $200 per VIP. A couple of times I negotiated lower and a couple times I paid more. Regardless of negotiated price I offer each girl a $20 - $40 tip if they exceed my expectation and succeed in making me happy during the VIP. My expectations are extremely high and it is difficult for the girls to exceed them but there were 19 times out of the 58 sessions I was so happy the girls earned my tip (largely the top 3 girls in my list). Also, for girls who I repeated with and enjoyed their company, if they would sit with me in the main room, I would buy them drinks or food. So, my total spend on the girl could be as high as $250 if I bought her a drink and she earned a tip.
Strip club alternative activities:
I hate the tiny little VIP rooms with the chairs that are too small for two people to sit on.
Despite these uncomfortable VIPs, I like going to the strip club in addition to regular VIP sessions I will sometimes take a girl for one clean dance just to feel her up. It is a unique experience. Imagine if you could walk up to any girl on the mall or the beach and say let me give you $25 to $45 to feel you up and lick your breasts for the next 3 minutes. I bet a lot of guys would eagerly do this, but most girls are not receptive to this kind of request. I enjoyed.
- Cakes at Criket twice.
- Sasha at Criket twice.
- Summer at BTs once.
And while sometimes the negotiations turn hostile or the girls get angry if you can't agree on VIP terms, but other times both people are respectful to each other, clearly communicate what they want and legitimately can't reach an agreement. I had two girls who I explained that I was very attracted to them and even though we couldn't negotiate an agreement to go to the VIP, I would like to touch them. They were both receptive to the idea and allowed me to feel them up at the table including their breasts, stomachs and inner thighs. I did not directly touch their panties. I also get a real thrill out of touching girls on the intimate parts of their bodies while others go about their business serving food and dancing on the stage. You could never do this in a restaurant that is not a strip club.
- Cleo at BTs She insisted on paying up front even though I have taken her friend more than 10 times who allows paying at the end but she wouldn't change her mind. Although she just got breast implants so she is no longer on my list.
- Anna at BTs He price point was too high for me, but we agreed to keep negotiating the next time we are both in the club.
Strip club enjoyment:
There are 3 distinct types of pleasures girls can provide in the club. Some guys are only interested in VIP dances and some girls only focus on VIP dances, but there are at least two other pleasures.
Female attention: Guys like it when attractive females talk to them, pay attention to them and listen to them.
Female affection: Guys like it girls hold their hand, rub their back, put their arm around them, sit in their laps.
All three kinds of activities have value (female attention, female affection and VIP dances) and are provided by the best strippers.
Most successful clean girl compete in the clubs by providing female attention and female affection to guys who are starved for female attention and affection.
MM.[/QUOTE]Great review MM! I think I have met Natalie at cricket, short red hair and really good dancer on stage? Seemed really pushy when talking with her.