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Why is Jordan consider the greatest player of all time? My opinion Jordan was the best one on one player but over all my opinion I would rate Magic as the greatest of all time. Well Let's put it this way if you had to draft a player as your #1 pick to start your team who would you draft Jordan or Magic?
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[QUOTE=DaViper;1794628]Why is Jordan consider the greatest player of all time? My opinion Jordan was the best one on one player but over all my opinion I would rate Magic as the greatest of all time. Well Let's put it this way if you had to draft a player as your #1 pick to start your team who would you draft Jordan or Magic?[/QUOTE]I'm a diehard Lakers fan, so Magic. But if you talking about the greatest player of all time, I got to go with Bill Russell. I hate the Celtics, but Russell won 11 championships with them. So if that doesn't make him the G. O. A. T, then what does?
[QUOTE=CheapCharlie;1794728]I'm a diehard Lakers fan, so Magic. But if you talking about the greatest player of all time, I got to go with Bill Russell. I hate the Celtics, but Russell won 11 championships with them. So if that doesn't make him the G. O. A. T, then what does?[/QUOTE]Can't go wrong with Magic, Jordan, Russell, Chamberlain, Robertson. Wish they all played in the same era, but all were head and shoulders above the rest of the league during their time. Nobody playing in the NBA right now would be considered in the discussion of greatest of all time.
[QUOTE=DaViper;1794628]Why is Jordan consider the greatest player of all time? My opinion Jordan was the best one on one player but over all my opinion I would rate Magic as the greatest of all time. Well Let's put it this way if you had to draft a player as your #1 pick to start your team who would you draft Jordan or Magic?[/QUOTE]I'm taking Shaquille O'neill, to start my team, no one could handle his big ass, no one in this or any other era, yeah hes cant shoot a free throw for jack but whos gonna match up to this freaks physicality, who can stand and bang with this guy who can match up with this guy? I know he prolly isnt even the greatest center of these times but whos gonna match up with this guy?
[QUOTE=DaViper;1794623]Now I have to add my man in the mix if you talking about playing all 5 positions and that's Magic Johnson who I would add to the debate of greatest player of all time. And most Laker fan you ask who the greatest Laker of all time that would not be Kobe it will be Magic.[/QUOTE]If you ask Magic and he was asked, he said its Kobe, I'm giving kobe the edge because hes a great defender.
[QUOTE=CheapCharlie;1794728]I'm a diehard Lakers fan, so Magic. But if you talking about the greatest player of all time, I got to go with Bill Russell. I hate the Celtics, but Russell won 11 championships with them. So if that doesn't make him the G. O. A. T, then what does?[/QUOTE]Dam CC, you must be an old boy, I ve only heard and seen clip of the guy, hes a little before my time, I thought Jabar was old but Russell, thats even before Wilt the Stilt.
[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1795244]If you ask Magic and he was asked, he said its Kobe, I'm giving kobe the edge because hes a great defender.[/QUOTE]Magic is the ultimate team player he has never said he was the best he has always given the other players the credit but people who really watch Magic play even when he was at Michigan St know who's better. And like I said before who would people rather have on here team Magic or Kobe and you all know a lot of NBA players don't like to play with Kobe and that's a fact
Just crown him, just crown hin the king, big game, big shot, big crown. King James!
[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1795242]I'm taking Shaquille O'neill, to start my team, no one could handle his big ass, no one in this or any other era, yeah hes cant shoot a free throw for jack but whos gonna match up to this freaks physicality, who can stand and bang with this guy who can match up with this guy? I know he prolly isnt even the greatest center of these times but whos gonna match up with this guy?[/QUOTE]I guess you must be too young or forgot but if I recall Akeem the Dream School Shaq in the Finals and yes those free throws would hurt big time that why theres hack a shaq
[QUOTE=DaViper;1795459]I guess you must be too young or forgot but if I recall Akeem the Dream School Shaq in the Finals and yes those free throws would hurt big time that why theres hack a shaq[/QUOTE]Yeah later became known as Hakeem Olajuwon, out of Univ, of Houston, teamates with Clyde "the glide" Drexeler, Phi Slamma Jamma, did they take a national championship, prolly the best in this generation, but I'll take Shaq in his prime over Olajuwon in his prime still a tough matchup for the dream who was prolly 6'10-11", which speaks for how really good he was, but at, what was he 7'2-3"/360 lbs, he'd be smashed, no one can match the physicality of this guy, holes in his game and all. Yeah they employed hack a shack couldnt stop him still he and kobe won and thats with only a "big two", nowadays they talking big threes (parker, duncan, ginobili) (bosch, wade, james), and besides we talking best of all time, we wanna take one guy, put him on the other guy and problem solved. Kobe could negate Michael (all in theory, err from the looks of it, all unscientific of course), Lebron could stick to Magic, Duncan or Mailman, who knows could be Dominque. But Shaq, who can match his physicality? What did Larry price always say "phyisical superiority cancels out all theory".
[QUOTE=DaViper;1795459]I guess you must be too young or forgot but if I recall Akeem the Dream School Shaq in the Finals and yes those free throws would hurt big time that why theres hack a shaq[/QUOTE]Hakeem caught Shaq right before he started to turn beast mode! When he gets to LA, he becomes an absolute terror with great post moves, foot work, defense and passing! Shaq and MJ are my building blocks if I were to start a team from scratch.
FYI. Hakeem will be in foul trouble from the get go and you can't do much riding the bench.
[QUOTE=CheapCharlie;1794728]I'm a diehard Lakers fan, so Magic. But if you talking about the greatest player of all time, I got to go with Bill Russell. I hate the Celtics, but Russell won 11 championships with them. So if that doesn't make him the G. O. A. T, then what does?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Laptop;1794812]Can't go wrong with Magic, Jordan, Russell, Chamberlain, Robertson. Wish they all played in the same era, but all were head and shoulders above the rest of the league during their time. Nobody playing in the NBA right now would be considered in the discussion of greatest of all time.[/QUOTE]I would say Bill Russell or Wilt Chamberlain with the nod to Wilt because he was a player in both senses.
[QUOTE=John Ross;1795580]I would say Bill Russell or Wilt Chamberlain with the nod to Wilt because he was a player in both senses.[/QUOTE]Wilt by a mile as he fucked 20k chicks before career ended.
[QUOTE=Oldee;1795592]Wilt by a mile as he fucked 20k chicks before career ended.[/QUOTE]BTW. 20k is true and not an exageration.
[QUOTE=YG365; 1795573]Hakeem caught Shaq right before he started to turn beast mode! When he gets to LA, he becomes an absolute terror with great post moves, foot work, defense and passing! Shaq and MJ are my building blocks if I were to start a team from scratch.
FYI. Hakeem will be in foul trouble from the get go and you can't do much riding the bench.[/QUOTE]I think Shaq would be the one in foul trbl as the Dream had all the post moves. Thats why you see Lebron and other NBA players paying him to teach them how to play in the post.
[QUOTE=Oldee;1795655]BTW. 20k is true and not an exageration.[/QUOTE]I remember people doing the math on this when his book came out. If you take a 20 year career, that is almost 3 girls per day (that's "different" girls per day). I just don't know how that is even possible. I'm sure Wilt got lotsa, lotsa pussy from lotsa, lotsa women. But I do think 20K has to be an exaggeration.
[QUOTE=Oldee;1795655]BTW. 20k is true and not an exageration.[/QUOTE]Yes, it's true but I didn't know that he died of cancer.
[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa;1795978]I remember people doing the math on this when his book came out. If you take a 20 year career, that is almost 3 girls per day (that's "different" girls per day). I just don't know how that is even possible. I'm sure Wilt got lotsa, lotsa pussy from lotsa, lotsa women. But I do think 20K has to be an exaggeration.[/QUOTE]I'm with you Hypo 20k different pussy, got to be an exaggeration.
[QUOTE=DaViper;1794623]Now I have to add my man in the mix if you talking about playing all 5 positions and that's Magic Johnson who I would add to the debate of greatest player of all time. And most Laker fan you ask who the greatest Laker of all time that would not be Kobe it will be Magic.[/QUOTE]This is why I say Lebron is like nothing we ve seen ever. Who's going to guard Russell? Lebron. Who's gona guard Wilt? Lebron. Olajuwon? Lebron. Michael? Lebron. Magic? Lebron. Kobe? Lebron. Duncan? Lebron. Mailman? Lebron. Dominique? Lebron. Bird? Lebron. Mchale? Lebron. Parker? Lebron. Stockton? Lebron. Nash? Lebron. Isiah? Lebron. Only one guy I can't see him guarding Shaq!
[QUOTE=DaViper;1795805]I think Shaq would be the one in foul trbl as the Dream had all the post moves. Thats why you see Lebron and other NBA players paying him to teach them how to play in the post.[/QUOTE]Have you ever played basketball? There's no way Shaq would be in foul trouble. Also, Hakeem would tire fast with this 300lbs mammoth leaning on you all game.
[QUOTE=YG365;1796242]Have you ever played basketball? There's no way Shaq would be in foul trouble. Also, Hakeem would tire fast with this 300lbs mammoth leaning on you all game.[/QUOTE]Totally agree, seen him at the Halekulani while he was with the Heat (who by the way won one nba championship with dwayne) , you wouldn't believe the size of this guys arm, it was huge, his ass was even bigger, a total monster, just towering but yet he looked so fit for his 345-365 pound playing weight. God know I love Hakeem beautiful moves, smooth and athletic, but just totally overmatched physically, wouldn't be smooth and athletic after 3 periods of pounding, no one would.
Don't know if you're one of them but the youngns these days are quick to claim someone who is unproven as the biggest, best ever, or in James's case "the king". Horseshit. Lebron James is perhaps the greatest physical specimen the NBA has seen to date. His new found jumper and Magic-like ability to play multiple positions make him the best in the game today. Others are right though. Hell, for this crop of mostly soft players I suppose he is "king". James still has a ways to go before LEGITIMATELY being compared to other legends. He is relatively young so he has a very good chance of getting there. The other teams of the league have their own ambitions and will have something to say about that however. If he wants to do it with the Heat, a slight roster adjustment is in order unless he plans to change uniforms. I hear his friend Kyrie Irving is looking for assistance. Given that cursed franchise just re-hired Mike Brown (a certified idiot) James will likely not pursue that since Brown was one of the reasons he left in the first place. Bring on next season. LAKERS BABY!
RJ.
[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1796228]This is why I say Lebron is like nothing we ve seen ever. Who's going to guard Russell? Lebron. Who's gona guard Wilt? Lebron. Olajuwon? Lebron. Michael? Lebron. Magic? Lebron. Kobe? Lebron. Duncan? Lebron. Mailman? Lebron. Dominique? Lebron. Bird? Lebron. Mchale? Lebron. Parker? Lebron. Stockton? Lebron. Nash? Lebron. Isiah? Lebron. Only one guy I can't see him guarding Shaq![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1796228]This is why I say Lebron is like nothing we ve seen ever. Who's going to guard Russell? Lebron. Who's gona guard Wilt? Lebron. Olajuwon? Lebron. Michael? Lebron. Magic? Lebron. Kobe? Lebron. Duncan? Lebron. Mailman? Lebron. Dominique? Lebron. Bird? Lebron. Mchale? Lebron. Parker? Lebron. Stockton? Lebron. Nash? Lebron. Isiah? Lebron. Only one guy I can't see him guarding Shaq![/QUOTE]He wouldn't be able to guard Kareem either those Sky hooks would be all over Your man Lebron.
[QUOTE=YG365;1796242]Have you ever played basketball? There's no way Shaq would be in foul trouble. Also, Hakeem would tire fast with this 300lbs mammoth leaning on you all game.[/QUOTE]Yes I've played basketball but what you are saying has already been proven wrong Fact is the older Dream schooled the younger Shaq which BTW Shaq in Orlando had a very good team at the time so you can make all the excuses but it already been proven they played I the finals and the Dream won.
Now I'm not saying Shaq is not dominant cause he Helped My Lakers with Kobe Win 3 titles but if given a choice I would take Magic as my 1st pick in a draft and if I had to take a center 1st I would go with Kareem.
[QUOTE=RickJames808; 1796322]Don't know if you're one of them but the youngns these days are quick to claim someone who is unproven as the biggest, best ever, or in James's case "the king". Horseshit. Lebron James is perhaps the greatest physical specimen the NBA has seen to date. His new found jumper and Magic-like ability to play multiple positions make him the best in the game today. Others are right though. Hell, for this crop of mostly soft players I suppose he is "king". James still has a ways to go before LEGITIMATELY being compared to other legends. He is relatively young so he has a very good chance of getting there. The other teams of the league have their own ambitions and will have something to say about that however. If he wants to do it with the Heat, a slight roster adjustment is in order unless he plans to change uniforms. I hear his friend Kyrie Irving is looking for assistance. Given that cursed franchise just re-hired Mike Brown (a certified idiot) James will likely not pursue that since Brown was one of the reasons he left in the first place. Bring on next season. LAKERS BABY!
RJ.[/QUOTE]This would be interesting to see if Lebron would do the same thing to Miami that he did to Clevland. I think he stays in Miami.
[QUOTE=DaViper; 1796356]Yes I've played basketball but what you are saying has already been proven wrong Fact is the older Dream schooled the younger Shaq which BTW Shaq in Orlando had a very good team at the time so you can make all the excuses but it already been proven they played I the finals and the Dream won.
Now I'm not saying Shaq is not dominant cause he Helped My Lakers with Kobe Win 3 titles but if given a choice I would take Magic as my 1st pick in a draft and if I had to take a center 1st I would go with Kareem.[/QUOTE]That was a young Shaq before he hit his prime. When he go to the Lakers, that's when he really started to take off. Why didn't Hakeem win more rings then? Why didn't he win a ring after getting his 2nd if he was so dominate? Also, I just looked at every head to head match up between the 2 including the Championship. Shaq clearly puts up even or much better stats in almost every category! Thus proving Shaq = Hakeem in the Finals but the Rockets Orlando. Also, of course Orlando had a pretty good team in 95. They reached the Finals but. The Rockets clearly had a better team with possibly the 2nd or 3rd best SG of all time in Drexler. 2 really really really good PG's in Cassell and Kenny Smith. 2 PF's that were really really really good in Otis Smith and Robert Horry, One of the best 3 point shooters and scorers in Vernon Maxwell and Mr. Winner himself Mario Ellie!
Where'd you play basketball? Pick up games with some chumps at a crappy park or rec center? You're crazy if you take Kareem or Magic first! Shaq would have a field day with Kareem! MJ, Kobe and LBJ are clearly better picks over Magic, even though Magic was very entertaining! I've played basketball since I was like 5. I've played for my high school and some small college ball as well. In fact, I still play a lot of ball in random leagues and parks through out Hawaii and I'll tell you what's up! If I had too choose who I would rather guard, it'd be The Dream cause he won't wear you down like Shaq!
[QUOTE=DaViper; 1796356]Yes I've played basketball but what you are saying has already been proven wrong Fact is the older Dream schooled the younger Shaq which BTW Shaq in Orlando had a very good team at the time so you can make all the excuses but it already been proven they played I the finals and the Dream won.
Now I'm not saying Shaq is not dominant cause he Helped My Lakers with Kobe Win 3 titles but if given a choice I would take Magic as my 1st pick in a draft and if I had to take a center 1st I would go with Kareem.[/QUOTE]Thats what we mean Shaq was a boy at the time, Shaq in his prime versus Hakeem in his prime, its Shaq, hes just to big he has no equal as far as physicality which is why he'd be the first pick overall, this is very unusual because on most writers list of best centers ever he'd have a hard time making the top ten greatest centers of alltime. But if you word it as you did then he'd have to be number one pick to start a team, why would you waste the number one pick on someone who has many potential matchup, like a Kareem? Walton would match up well against Kareem, so would Russel, so would Hakeem, so would Ewing, so would the Admiral, i'd even add a guy like Dikembe Mutombo and potentially Roy Hibbard in there, I mean you have many matchups with Kareem but look at Shaq who can matchup against him? No one, thats why there was hack a Shaq, you'd have to employ a team scheme against him, no on one could match the guy, as for Michael, Magic and all the rest of them James included, there are all people who can match up physically with them, Shaq on the other hand has no one!
Yep! Totally agree with you bro! Most fans love the smooth players! That's why Kobe, KD, Ray Allen, The Dream have so many fans man! But like in all sports, it's about aggression and who is more physical including the guards! I love Isiah, CP3, Shaq, Robert Horry, MJ, Pippen, J Kidd, KG, etc. They all bring a little nastiness to the game with attitude, aggression, etc.
[QUOTE=DaViper;1796343]He wouldn't be able to guard Kareem either those Sky hooks would be all over Your man Lebron.[/QUOTE]He has a 46 inch vertical is what I hear, and a body of a nfl tight end, defensive end, maybe a little short here, not the best matchup for Lebron as Kareem was a legit 7-1, but still he'll defend Kareem better than Kareem would defend Lebron, in the end advantage Lebron, look at what Kareem would have to do to stop Lebron, he'd be eaten alive, I'll bet Lebron would have many defends on Kareem, Kareem would have none zilch.
Alright lets stop this conversation cause it all subjective anyways, besides I had the last say, haha. Lets just get back to sex, interesting conversation anyway. Love you all no matter!
I was just watching the sports and there she is Michelle Wie, she has this really unique style of putting where she bent so far over at the waist it looks excruciating yet from the right angle very revealing then she had some I guess sunscreen on which added an oil like finish to her legs, I got to say she is really looking hot especially with the short short skirt she had on and her pullover tucked in revealing a skin tight appearing stomach, while imo she's about the biggest bust in sports history, she's still the hottest looking on tour, well her or Natalie Gulbis, that is unless I've missed someone.
[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1796408]Thats what we mean Shaq was a boy at the time, Shaq in his prime versus Hakeem in his prime, its Shaq, hes just to big he has no equal as far as physicality which is why he'd be the first pick overall, this is very unusual because on most writers list of best centers ever he'd have a hard time making the top ten greatest centers of alltime. But if you word it as you did then he'd have to be number one pick to start a team, why would you waste the number one pick on someone who has many potential matchup, like a Kareem? Walton would match up well against Kareem, so would Russel, so would Hakeem, so would Ewing, so would the Admiral, i'd even add a guy like Dikembe Mutombo and potentially Roy Hibbard in there, I mean you have many matchups with Kareem but look at Shaq who can matchup against him? No one, thats why there was hack a Shaq, you'd have to employ a team scheme against him, no on one could match the guy, as for Michael, Magic and all the rest of them James included, there are all people who can match up physically with them, Shaq on the other hand has no one![/QUOTE]Let me understand something you guys are saying Shaq was the most dominate Center and no one can match up with him but then you saying most writer don't even rank him in the top 5 to 10? So explain that to me if nobody can matchup then wouldn't he be top 5? As you guys said you would take him #1 hands down? Yes this is all here say and I hear you saying Shaq would dominate everybody he plays but then why doesn't the writers have him in the top 5? After you explain that we can end this.
[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1796448]Alright lets stop this conversation cause it all subjective anyways, besides I had the last say, haha. Lets just get back to sex, interesting conversation anyway. Love you all no matter![/QUOTE]Yah this was fun no disrespect intended just an opinion of a sport fan. This was like one of them espn show. Its all good.
Maybe when football season arrives we can see whos is the best qb of all time or who would your draft #1
[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1796501]I was just watching the sports and there she is Michelle Wie, she has this really unique style of putting where she bent so far over at the waist it looks excruciating yet from the right angle very revealing then she had some I guess sunscreen on which added an oil like finish to her legs, I got to say she is really looking hot especially with the short short skirt she had on and her pullover tucked in revealing a skin tight appearing stomach, while imo she's about the biggest bust in sports history, she's still the hottest looking on tour, well her or Natalie Gulbis, that is unless I've missed someone.[/QUOTE]And the $64, 000 question; is anyone tapping that yet? And if so, whose the lucky bastard?
[QUOTE=Bobb Sledd;1796540]And the $64, 000 question; is anyone tapping that yet? And if so, whose the lucky bastard?[/QUOTE]She's still dating Robin Lopez.
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There's a filter for hawaii.[/QUOTE]Well, there goes several hours of my time!
I should post some images. I have a few hundred images I've snapped of hot, local girls with my phone cam. I have this stealth app for pic taking that requires a password to open (to see the gallery) and uses its own internal gallery so that your main photo gallery app is free of the evidence!
With my iPhone, I turn the brightness all the way down so the screen looks almost black. I then use Siri launch an app called: My Secret Folder. I then launch the cam feature. Using my earbuds, I hold the phone at my side, or clip it to my belt with the cam facing out. I then use the volume up button on the ear buds to snap photos. Most of the time I hold it, so it's important no one sees the screen lit up showing the scene.
TWO IMPORTANT ITEMS YOU CANNOT FORGET TO DO:
1) Set the phone on mute so it doesn't make the camera shutter sound.
2) Make sure the flash is set to OFF.
I accidentally took photos of this one super hot wahine in a supermarket and the flash got their attention. Obviously it didn't appear I was taking photos, but the moke with them asked what was up. I acted ignorant, and then he told me my flash was going off. I then showed him that my flashlight app was set to strobe and that was must have happened. It launched accidentally from my belt. If need be, I could have shown him my gallery and there'd be no pics. They were actually embarrassed that I may in some way may have thought they insinuated I was taking pics.
Seriously though, I have some incredibly hot babes in the sexiest clothing, or lack thereof, in my stash!
[QUOTE=John Ross;1796593]She's still dating Robin Lopez.[/QUOTE]She is still? Dam he a big kinda ugly dude (imo, idk though) , dam she be getting filled pretty good by this dude he's what 7'0"-2", something like that.
[QUOTE=DaViper; 1796527]Yah this was fun no disrespect intended just an opinion of a sport fan. This was like one of them espn show. Its all good.
Maybe when football season arrives we can see whos is the best qb of all time or who would your draft #1[/QUOTE]Oh shit we can start hat one right now! Haha!