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[QUOTE=Q32003;1617690]Why you even bother talking to Wiseman? He is a typical shill and even admits it. Just the fact that he is also posting under another name should tell you something. The moderator should get rid of him just like what happened on other boards.[/QUOTE]Is wiseman2 Gtrack, cause I couldn't help but noticed whenever I read there post they almost reads identical, especially when it comes to reviewing escorts.
[QUOTE=Wiseman2;1617515]Their are 2 sides to every story which I want people to be aware of.[/QUOTE]Wiseman, I came across this thread and read the previous posts for context. As a complete outsider of this situation, I can provide completely unbiased and objective statements. I am sorry, I feel you have overstepped your ground. You state that you are not a pimp or make any direct benefit in what the providers earn. Based on that, the quoted statement is contradictory to what you initially stated.
Let's play devil's advocate for a moment. If you believe there are two sides to any story, and if you do not benefit financially from a provider's earnings, you should be no more than an arbitrator. You should listen to both arguments and make an educated determination as to who is correct. That being stated, as a hobbyist, it is none of our business what happens between a provider and her client. If a provider feels she has been wronged, it should not be a hobbyist's responsibility to right that wrong.
ThickJohnson's example is similar to a situation I am in right now. I have been trying to coordinate with a provider for weeks. I have "wasted" time trying to get a hold of her to no avail. If I approached you with this situation, would you track her down and try to get some type of compensation from her? Let's reverse the situation. What if she had got a hold of me and we were to hook up. Let's say she spent money to come to my home and I backed out. What would you do if she contacted you about this situation? Would you track me down to get a reimbursement from me?
Regardless of what method this guy chose to contact the provider, it is not up to us hobbyists to recooperate (sp) any lost funds. It is very true that there are two sides to every story. Quite frankly, there are really three sides to every story. His side, her side, and the truth. The only two people who know exactly what happened are the two people in the situation. Unless you benefit directly from tracking down this guy and recovering money for the provider, it is not your responsibility to step in. Quite frankly, it is none of your business. You can sympathize with the provider and even go as far as suggesting she put this guy on blast. However, crossing the line between hobbyist and pimp sets a very bad precedent. Remember, all of us know the game. None of us should take this game lightly. If you stick your neck out for someone that you are not directly affiliated with, you could find yourself in a world of trouble.
I have not stated all of this to blast you. I am stating all of this to caution you. Please be safe and please take this post as an objective comment and not a biased statement.
[QUOTE=BkLyricist; 1617786]Is wiseman2 Gtrack, cause I couldn't help but noticed whenever I read there post they almost reads identical, especially.
When it comes to reviewing escorts.[/QUOTE]The writing style is indeed identical. So are the PMs that I received with names, stats and rates on girls he 'recommends'. Also, someone with a gtrack email address responded to a CL ad I answered.
Complete this phrase: "If it smells like a pimp, then it's a."
I see handcuffs in his future.
I have no aspirations to be a pimp. This is a hobby and I like the ladies but I will never exploit or abuse them. I treat them with respect to get the best service possible. If people are resentful maybe its because secretly they have their own aspirations. Tell your wife or girlfriend that you have pimp tendencies and see how they react. Who is really faithful to their wife or girlfriend? Do not be hypocrtical once you cross the line and engage in pay for play actvities. Do not play games with the providers when all it takes is your money for your fun and pleasure. After all this is the worlds oldest profession.
This is the lovely lady that has been the object of the discussion for the past few days.
[QUOTE=Wiseman2;1618242]I have no aspirations to be a pimp. This is a hobby and I like the ladies but I will never exploit or abuse them. I treat them with respect to get the best service possible. If people are resentful maybe its because secretly they have their own aspirations. Tell your wife or girlfriend that you have pimp tendencies and see how they react. Who is really faithful to their wife or girlfriend? Do not be hypocrtical once you cross the line and engage in pay for play actvities. Do not play games with the providers when all it takes is your money for your fun and pleasure. After all this is the worlds oldest profession.[/QUOTE]This is your response? We have all, quite calmly I might add tried to get you too see how wrong what you did was. How wrong was it you ask? Here's how wrong it was. No one I repeat No one has come to your defense on this. It's very rare that the entire board agrees on a single thing.
Lets face it this conversation has been just short of an intervention. But you still refuse to see something so obvious. You cling on to the notion that these provider-friends need and deserve your personal protection (despite your claims that you receive no compensation). That we clients do nothing more than abuse or take advantage of these poor innocents. You haven't even considered the impact on your provider-friend Lisa. I'm sure there are those who had her on there list, but now have crossed her off because they don't want to deal with the drama that YOU bring to the table.
I don't think there is anything else I can say to get you to see the inappropriateness of what you did. So go on threatening clients. I guess it's like they say. The first step is admitting that you have a problem.
I sure don't want to be involved in any drama was interested in seeing her but not anymore. What if I did and then she lies about me standing her up. Will I be hunted down?
I did not do anything wrong and I will continue to stand by my actions. Go see her act respnsibly post a honest review good or bad. If you act responsibly we will not have this conversation. Plenty of people probably see her but will not post because they do not want to be involved in this silliness.
I do not threaten clients. Since he behaved inappropiately I suggested a way to get even. He created his own situation by behaving inappropiately. Keep your appointment and we would not have this coversation. If asked agin I will do it again. I guess you condone immature or bad behavior.
[QUOTE=ThickJohnson; 1618569]This is your response? We have all, quite calmly I might add tried to get you too see how wrong what you did was. How wrong was it you ask? Here's how wrong it was. No one I repeat No one has come to your defense on this. It's very rare that the entire board agrees on a single thing.
Lets face it this conversation has been just short of an intervention. But you still refuse to see something so obvious. You cling on to the notion that these provider-friends need and deserve your personal protection (despite your claims that you receive no compensation). That we clients do nothing more than abuse or take advantage of these poor innocents. You haven't even considered the impact on your provider-friend Lisa. I'm sure there are those who had her on there list, but now have crossed her off because they don't want to deal with the drama that YOU bring to the table.
I don't think there is anything else I can say to get you to see the inappropriateness of what you did. So go on threatening clients. I guess it's like they say. The first step is admitting that you have a problem.[/QUOTE]Are you guys serious back and forth about a working girl no matter how you see them they are working girls. Cab fare the working girl should learn to understand it the cost of doing business just win some and you lose some. Crying about cab fare be a better working girl then you wouldn't have to search out Johns. Next thing she will cry that someone didn't have the exact amount or paid in coins. Lazy chic a real job would kill her.
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Any info?[/QUOTE]Anyone ever had a go?
The guy was wrong for calling and not keeping his appointment. Its the principle. He reneged on the transaction. H was playing games. I do not know the stranger and I really do not care. I do know Lisa.
I saw Lisa just yesterday at her incall location on my day off. This was her post.
[url]http://brooklyn.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/lisa-latina-feast-on-this-25/34770091[/url]
I texted her to set everything up. She only communicated through text, so getting information her took longer than I was used to. The incall spot is in a bad project area, so I felt on edge, to say the least, as I headed toward her apt as quietly as possible. I get to her apt, she opens the door, and we head to her room. We chatted a bit about how long it took her to text me her address while I waited on the corner, and then we got to business.
Body: She had a lot of marks on her body that looked like scars. She wasn't out of shape, but she also didn't have any features that stood out and attracted me. Overall I would give her a 6/10.
Performance: Head game was okay, I didn't feel anything, which was both good and bad. She does go hard on it, to the point where you can hear her gargle, but I just didn't feel anything from it. I only got to do two positions with her, missionary and doggy, and she was good in both positions. She gets into it, so I didn't feel like I was having a session with a lifeless doll, plus she allowed dfk while in missionary, which was nice.
Overall the session was going well. Until midway into it, she pulls out her phone and mumbled out something that I thought I misheard. She said her uncle was on his way back to the apt. She didn't say how close he was or show any worry, she just said we had time since I was only doing a half. From that point, we switched from mish to doggy. I did my thing for a little bit, but the bed was rickety, and made noise against the wall. I was trying as hard as possible to finish, and then out of nowhere the door busts open, and a unknown Hispanic guy peaks into the room. Were on the bed still in doggy, and I'm just staring at him with a WTF face. He doesn't do anything but shut the door, Lisa has shocked expression on her face and says that was her uncle. I quickly put on my clothes, heart beating fast and speechless, not knowing if he was going to come back with something to attack me with. Lisa puts on her pajamas and leads me out of the apt.
First off, the incall spot is in a very dangerous location that I usually never put up with. Second, The session was ruined prematurely because of her uncle, that I didn't know about until a min or two after I was told about it. I was on edge from the moment busted us until I hopped on bus out of the area. There weren't enough positives about this session to out weigh the negatives and make me want to repeat with her. There were to many headaches about her incall location to make me want repeat.
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