Strip Club Reports

This is just a fun intellectual point of view and not meant as legal advice as I am just winging it with my little knowledge of the law. Plus law and the real world don't always match. Depending on how far you want to take it on the "keys" issue, technically, the girls are independent contractors, not employees. The club has no right to prevent you from receiving your keys as your contract was not with them relating to dances. You paid them for the use of the room and so long as you pay for your drinks and pay the valet that should be it. Clubs always try to avoid calling the dancers employees as it creates a whole bunch of issues. It would be like you owing money to the bouncer's friend in the club on a separate matter and the bouncer withholds your keys to help him.

2 issues exist for the club. Criminally it could be argued that there is theft by conversion. I think the cops would make this clear to them if you cared to call. But that would take balls. Alternatively, it could be argued that they are now stepping into the shoes of a debt collector and are subject to collection laws. A lawsuit could get $1000 plus actual damages and attorney fees. Go ahead and explain that to the bouncer. Again taking big balls. Some broke attorney might take it on but might not be a great idea if you have a wife. Don't ignore what actually went down in the VIP as a pissed-off dancer is hard to shut up.

Realistically I think most of us just want to stay under the radar.

[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;6216035]I'm surprised it might reopen at all. Weren't they ordered to sell everything inside the place? I'm almost thinking, if they catch it being what it was before again, they're going to order them to bulldoze the damn building.

At least two of the three best nights of my clubbing life, and probably the best 10 nights of my life overall, involved Penthouse. I still wonder what happened to Daisy.[/QUOTE]Alan sold it to Subi and Subi's brother is dealing with the reopening, so the sale of the contents is irrelevant under a different owner. And Daisy moved to Florida and works at Alan's Booby Trap there. She occasionally flies up to work at Flight Club, but it's always an unannounced visit.

Looking for a little info on a couple dancers at Cricket. I've stopped in on a couple day shifts and Cheyenne and Morgan have caught my eye. Morgan is cute but gives off that "let's get back there and get this done" kind of vibe, which is the opposite of fun to me. I'm hoping someone here has sampled and can tell me otherwise. Cheyenne is really my type and actually looks like fun but I swear I overheard her talking with another dancer one day about going over and hustling some guy because he has a ton of money, which was obviously a turn off. Again, I'm hoping someone here has sampled and can tell me different.

On another note, H8 and Bogarts has gotten pretty stale lately so I'm probably going to check out BTs one day, probably during day shift, and could use some recommendations on who to look out for. It's a little hard to search since the three letter name won't work.

I appreciate any help in advance. And if you guys are looking for any info on any specific dancers from H8 or Bogarts I can probably help. I've sampled most and probably have some insight.

[QUOTE=BCummings;6216798]Go ahead and explain that to the bouncer. Again taking big balls.[/QUOTE]At some point, the bouncer's going to decide you won't remember why you ended up in a coma when, or if, you wake up.

Five dancers with sparse customers there. An attractive lineup, all interested me. Below is what I remember.

Gem: 20's, white, dark hair, small tits, and a thin body.

Rain: Early-20's, white, dark hair, small tits, taller height, and a thin body.

Shay: Early-20's, black, dark hair, C-cup tits, athletic build, nice backside, and has tats.

Thai: 20's, white, dark hair, small tits, thin build, and has tats.

Zarrea: Early-30's, white, dyed blonde, small tits, slender build, wears glasses, and has tats.

Rain, Shay, and Thai are not the same dancers that have been previously mentioned on here at other clubs.

Initial quotes ranged from 300 to 600 for everything. The three dancers that I spoke with were willing to negotiate, although one of them remained outside my budget.

I enjoyed sampling the dancer shown below today. VIP services and total damage resemble my previous reports. Subi's valet, like BT's, can be avoided by parking on the street. Cover change begins at 7 PM for night shift. VIP fee is 20 each time that you use one of the two private, sufficiently sized booths located near the back. An open area, no VIP fee, for regular dances is adjacent to the entrance.

[QUOTE=MrBarton;6217942]Looking for a little info on a couple dancers at Cricket. I've stopped in on a couple day shifts and Cheyenne and Morgan have caught my eye. Morgan is cute but gives off that "let's get back there and get this done" kind of vibe, which is the opposite of fun to me. I'm hoping someone here has sampled and can tell me otherwise. Cheyenne is really my type and actually looks like fun but I swear I overheard her talking with another dancer one day about going over and hustling some guy because he has a ton of money, which was obviously a turn off. Again, I'm hoping someone here has sampled and can tell me different.

On another note, H8 and Bogarts has gotten pretty stale lately so I'm probably going to check out BTs one day, probably during day shift, and could use some recommendations on who to look out for. It's a little hard to search since the three letter name won't work.

I appreciate any help in advance. And if you guys are looking for any info on any specific dancers from H8 or Bogarts I can probably help. I've sampled most and probably have some insight.[/QUOTE]Does coco still work there. Very nice take out order.

[QUOTE=MSmithy;6221240]Does coco still work there. Very nice take out order.[/QUOTE]I don't think so. I can't remember the last time I heard that name.

[QUOTE=BCummings;6216798]This is just a fun intellectual point of view and not meant as legal advice as I am just winging it with my little knowledge of the law. Plus law and the real world don't always match. Depending on how far you want to take it on the "keys" issue, technically, the girls are independent contractors, not employees. The club has no right to prevent you from receiving your keys as your contract was not with them relating to dances. You paid them for the use of the room and so long as you pay for your drinks and pay the valet that should be it. Clubs always try to avoid calling the dancers employees as it creates a whole bunch of issues. It would be like you owing money to the bouncer's friend in the club on a separate matter and the bouncer withholds your keys to help him.

2 issues exist for the club. Criminally it could be argued that there is theft by conversion. I think the cops would make this clear to them if you cared to call. But that would take balls. Alternatively, it could be argued that they are now stepping into the shoes of a debt collector and are subject to collection laws. A lawsuit could get $1000 plus actual damages and attorney fees. Go ahead and explain that to the bouncer. Again taking big balls. Some broke attorney might take it on but might not be a great idea if you have a wife. Don't ignore what actually went down in the VIP as a pissed-off dancer is hard to shut up..[/QUOTE]I think you're over-thinking it. Are you going to call the cops, especially if you've been drinking? Do the cops have a good relationship with the club to where they'll accept whatever the club says? So you call the cops and say the club won't give you your keys. Cop asks why won't they? What do you say, you have no idea? Cop says gee, they have hundreds of guys come in, but they decide not to give you your keys? So you say well, a dancer thinks you owe her for private dances. What kind of private dances? What exactly went down? So the cops come out, interview you, the dancer, the manager. You could end up being cuffed and booked because she says you took your dick out or whatever. You'll get convinced, like everyone who doesn't have their keys, to pay up. And don't forget, they can lose your keys.

Will be visiting in a couple of weeks and had a few questions.

Do I need to bring my own condoms or will the girls provide?

What are the rooms like? Bench with a curtain?

Do they give you a time limit if you take too long?

What about cleanup afterwards?

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;6222814]I think you're over-thinking it. Are you going to call the cops, especially if you've been drinking? Do the cops have a good relationship with the club to where they'll accept whatever the club says? So you call the cops and say the club won't give you your keys. Cop asks why won't they? What do you say, you have no idea? Cop says gee, they have hundreds of guys come in, but they decide not to give you your keys? So you say well, a dancer thinks you owe her for private dances. What kind of private dances? What exactly went down? So the cops come out, interview you, the dancer, the manager. You could end up being cuffed and booked because she says you took your dick out or whatever. You'll get convinced, like everyone who doesn't have their keys, to pay up. And don't forget, they can lose your keys.[/QUOTE]Just like a hobby phone, you should have some hobby keys. Park in the street and give them fake keys / FOB. If you get them back at the end of the night great, if not you are golden.

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;6222814]I think you're over-thinking it. Are you going to call the cops, especially if you've been drinking? Do the cops have a good relationship with the club to where they'll accept whatever the club says? So you call the cops and say the club won't give you your keys. Cop asks why won't they? What do you say, you have no idea? Cop says gee, they have hundreds of guys come in, but they decide not to give you your keys? So you say well, a dancer thinks you owe her for private dances. What kind of private dances? What exactly went down? So the cops come out, interview you, the dancer, the manager. You could end up being cuffed and booked because she says you took your dick out or whatever. You'll get convinced, like everyone who doesn't have their keys, to pay up. And don't forget, they can lose your keys.[/QUOTE]Is it possible that you're the one overthinking it and oversharing?

I venture that you have posted or commented about your distaste of valet parking at least 50 times over the years. Your experience is anecdotal. It follows that very, very few individuals have issues with valet parking as it would be harmful to these businesses if it happened in the manner and quantity of times that you suggest.

My anecdotal experience is that I valet parked hundreds of times over the years at strip clubs all over Detroit area and never had an issue at any of them. I've valet parked many hundreds of times at other restaurants and businesses. Again no issues.

So, is there another reason that you must bang this drum so oftenand loudly?

I would guess that 50 times is a serious undercount.

[QUOTE=Passenger;6223607]Is it possible that you're the one overthinking it and oversharing?

I venture that you have posted or commented about your distaste of valet parking at least 50 times over the years. Your experience is anecdotal. It follows that very, very few individuals have issues with valet parking as it would be harmful to these businesses if it happened in the manner and quantity of times that you suggest.

My anecdotal experience is that I valet parked hundreds of times over the years at strip clubs all over Detroit area and never had an issue at any of them. I've valet parked many hundreds of times at other restaurants and businesses. Again no issues.

So, is there another reason that you must bang this drum so oftenand loudly?

I would guess that 50 times is a serious undercount.[/QUOTE]He does the same thing over on TUSCL regarding valet parking. Site members have created several discussion posts about him and his weird problem with valet parking.

[QUOTE=Smdiw81;6222919]Will be visiting in a couple of weeks and had a few questions.

Do I need to bring my own condoms or will the girls provide?

What are the rooms like? Bench with a curtain?

Do they give you a time limit if you take too long?

What about cleanup afterwards?[/QUOTE]- The girls have condoms.

- At least at Bogarts, it's just a chair and curtains.

- Re time limit, that very much depends on what you negotiate. I usually ask for "no song count", so technically no time limit.

Also depends on the girl though. Some are more straight down to business and rushing than others.

- The girls usually help with cleanup. At Bogarts, they have kitchen towels right outside the rooms, which the girl will grab, once you're done.

[QUOTE=Passenger;6223607]Is it possible that you're the one overthinking it and oversharing?

I venture that you have posted or commented about your distaste of valet parking at least 50 times over the years. Your experience is anecdotal. It follows that very, very few individuals have issues with valet parking as it would be harmful to these businesses if it happened in the manner and quantity of times that you suggest.

My anecdotal experience is that I valet parked hundreds of times over the years at strip clubs all over Detroit area and never had an issue at any of them. I've valet parked many hundreds of times at other restaurants and businesses. Again no issues.

So, is there another reason that you must bang this drum so oftenand loudly?

I would guess that 50 times is a serious undercount.[/QUOTE]I'll weigh in, but on a different note about valet. First, I never have a problem with letting valet park my car. If I want to play in the club, then I have to play by their rules.

However, last week a thief broke into several cars at Players including an Audi that was parked in the alley behind the club. The thefts were videotaped by Players cameras, but not sure they can identify the thieves since they were masked and it was dark. So just a friendly reminder to not leave anything valuable in your vehicle when you valet.

[QUOTE=Smdiw81;6222919]Will be visiting in a couple of weeks and had a few questions.

Do I need to bring my own condoms or will the girls provide?

What are the rooms like? Bench with a curtain?

Do they give you a time limit if you take too long?

What about cleanup afterwards?[/QUOTE]Bring your own condoms and paper towels.

H8 N has tiny booths, bogies has some larger ones as does cricket. Don't know about the others.