[QUOTE=KnobJob;1412503]My rule of thumb is to just assume the provider you are doing business with is there to scam you, because 7 times out 10, they are![/QUOTE]You mean I am not going to run into Julia Roberts in this endeavor?
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[QUOTE=KnobJob;1412503]My rule of thumb is to just assume the provider you are doing business with is there to scam you, because 7 times out 10, they are![/QUOTE]You mean I am not going to run into Julia Roberts in this endeavor?
[QUOTE=KnobJob; 1412503]I have no doubt there are scammers out there posing as escorts wanting personal information as part of their "application" process. Hell even ligitimate escorts probably doing this too. Remember these escorts and working girls are criminals after all, so don't be stupid about the information you're willing to give up to bust a simple nut. Be smart people, protect yourself. My rule of thumb is to just assume the provider you are doing business with is there to scam you, because 7 times out 10, they are! It's all a game, as long as you stay on top of yours you won't get into sticky situations.
Sometimes I wished there was a such thing as monger school for some of these clueless people out there.[/QUOTE]Reading this board is the closest thing there is to monger school. It's where I learned everything when I started in this hobby. If people would take the time to RTFF, they would learn a lot.
[QUOTE=Brew Man;1413027]If people would take the time to RTFF, they would learn a lot.[/QUOTE]Not always the easiest thing to do. The way this forum is s et up it is not very conducive to reading / searching whatsoever.
Do you even know how to use the search function? It is very useful.
[QUOTE=Tg Schuab;1413048]Not always the easiest thing to do. The way this forum is s et up it is not very conducive to reading / searching whatsoever.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tg Schuab;1413048]Not always the easiest thing to do. The way this forum is s et up it is not very conducive to reading / searching whatsoever.[/QUOTE]I agree, but here are some tips to make it a LITTLE easier:
1. Subscribe to the forums you wan to search in. To do this, look for the "Thread Tools" drop-down in the light gray bar just above the first article in the forum you want to subscribe to (VERY easy to overlook)."Subscribe to this thread" will be one of the options. (This is one confusing aspect: they talk about subscribing to "threads" when what you're really subscribing to is a forum.)
2. Once you've subscribed to all the threads you want to search in, when you do a search, click on "Advanced Search" under the search bar. Click on the first tab,"Search Single Content Type". Enter the keyword you want to search for, and then under "Additional Options", click on "Search Subscribed Forums". That way if you want to find any reviews of an "Angel" here in Raleigh, you won't match every "Angel" in every city on the board.
3. Also, be sure to click the option for "Show Results As: Reports". This way it will show you the specific articles that match your keywords, instead of just dumping you into the forum.
The user interface here leaves a lot to be desired, but you can't beat the price!
[QUOTE=KnobJob; 1412503]I have no doubt there are scammers out there posing as escorts wanting personal information as part of their "application" process. Hell even ligitimate escorts probably doing this too. Remember these escorts and working girls are criminals after all, so don't be stupid about the information you're willing to give up to bust a simple nut. Be smart people, protect yourself. My rule of thumb is to just assume the provider you are doing business with is there to scam you, because 7 times out 10, they are! It's all a game, as long as you stay on top of yours you won't get into sticky situations.
Sometimes I wished there was a such thing as monger school for some of these clueless people out there.[/QUOTE]So you fellow's have been discussing screening / the appropriate way of setting appointments. I recently found this on another site.
Thinking it may help some of you be more successful and have better over all luck finding the right type of girl for you.
The following is a simple guide on how to get the most out of your escort experience.
RESEARCH:
Always do your homework. 30 minutes of online research can not only "save you hundreds on your car insurance" but, it also minimizes the chances of a bad experience, humiliation, and 'taking one for the team' (TOFTT). If you choose NOT to do your homework, you will have no one to blame but yourself for your poor experience.
Review sites are a good place to start your research. Many providers advertise on discussion boards so you should get started by clicking on their ads and looking at their websites. These sites contain lots of information so, take the time to read everything and don't just stick to staring at photos and rates.
Once you have a provider's name, head back to the message boards and check out their posts and reviews for the past 6 months. This will help give you a better idea on their personality.
INITIAL CONTACT:
This is the first hurdle to clear without falling flat on your face.
If the site has an appointment request form, fill it out and provide ALL the requested information. This is where many make their first mistake; they don't follow instructions. If you don't like a providers contact terms, move on and find someone else. Don't waste their or your time.
If there's a comment section, do NOT make any rude or sexually suggestive comments. If the provider is truly a professional, doing so will ensure you never hear from them again.
What happens if there isn't a request form? Send an email or call provided number (more on phone call etiquette below).
Keep it simple. Subject likes like,"Hi from John" or 'Appointment request from Dayton' will get your email read. Do NOT use subjects like,"I need it bad" or "Do me!". Messages like those are an automatic delete.
Here's an example of how your email should sound:
Hello,
I'm John from Monkey's Elbow, Kentucky. I visited your site and I'd like to make an appointment to see you. I will be in your town from XX date to XX date.
I was wondering if you might have time available during my visit.
(Leave your contact information and when is the best time to reach you)
A word of advice: Spelling and punctuation count. Take the time to proof your email before you send it.
Most providers are very good about returning respectable emails. Expect a response within 48 hours or less. However, you should understand that they may be very busy. Some providers have auto-response system set up and that may be the first email that you get back. Another delay in a reply may be because they are traveling, on vacation, or on an extended appointment. Just because a provider doesn't reply right away, it doesn't mean bad news. If you haven't gotten a response after 3 days, send a second email. Sometimes, messages get deleted by mistake or eaten by Internet gremlins.
SCREENING / VERIFICATION:
Once the provider has responded to your initial request (via email, phone call, etc.) , the next step is verification. If you've never seen an escort before and have no provider references (or even if you do) they are going ask for information that will prove you are not a rogue government agency trying to entrap them or a psycho trying to cause them bodily harm.
The provider will likely ask for what seems like personal information. Work phone, age, general description, company name, occupation who have you seen, who you know, etc.
DON'T FIGHT THIS.
They are merely trying to protect themselves and their clients from potential problems. Keep in mind, providers want to make the appointment too but, they also have a vested interest in safety and discretion.
Some providers ask for little information, some ask for more.
Regardless of how much information they ask for, if you refuse to provide them with the information, you can forget about an appointment.
Remember you only have one chance at a good first impression and because of the very real risks provider's face you may only get one shot before you are put on a do not answer / do not see list that may be shared publicly / privately with other independent provider's and even agency's.
Verification is a safety process that you CANNOT negotiate away. Once again if a provider asks for more info than you fell secure disclosing find a different provider.
SETTING THE APPOINTMENT:
At this point, you may have received a contact number for the escort companion and instructions on how to make your appointment.
Be sure to follow all instructions. Call from an unblocked number and conduct yourself like you would in any other professional situation. They have a service you want and you are calling to contract those services. Remember, the rules of what you can and cannot say STILL apply.
But what if a man / another woman answers?
Don't panic!
Calmly and politely say a greeting ("hello","good afternoon", etc.) followed by,"Did I dial 555-1212?". Often, you HAVE dialed the right number and the bookings happen to be done by a man / other provider / answering service etc. No problem!
Asking,"So buddy, how much for a BJ?" or "Have you dated her yourself?" is a guaranteed hang up. It screams "Hi! I'm a dumb ass with no class."
Now that you've gone through all that, now is the time to find out more information about the companion.
Do they have a favorite meal, flower, or wine? What kind of music do they like? What is their favorite thing to do? What do they dislike?
Now this is assuming, this information is NOT on their website. If it is, there is no greater way to look like a fool by asking questions that have already been painstakingly answered previously on their site.
This is also a good time to let them know about you. Talk about your likes, dislikes, etc. But PLEASE DON'T give them your life story or be explicit or vulgar. If this is your first time, tell them! If you're nervous, be a MAN and say so. Most escorts are fantastic at putting you at ease as long as you're honest. This is not the time to be shy or tough it out!
BEFORE THE BIG DAY:
Some providers will only meet you in a public place the first time while others will come right to your room / You to theirs. Even still, there are a few who prefer a quick 15 or 20 minutes for a get-to-know-you drink the day before.
If the website doesn't cover it, politely ask "What are your first meeting policies?".
Some escorts are very talkative and will call you more than a few times prior to the appointment. Others may only call once or twice. Follow their lead and respect their wishes. Now is NOT the time to be a needy phone stalker.
If you must cancel your appointment do so as soon as you know you will not be able to keep your appointment. Some provider's have a cancellation fee / process. Make sure you know this info before you schedule your chosen companion's time.
THE BIG DAY (FINALLY) :
Nothing can be stressed more than being clean!
Wait. One more time: Nothing can be stressed more here than BEING CLEAN!
Be freshly showered, brush your teeth, comb your hair, and be dressed!
Answering the door in your purple silk boxers may work fine for scaring away Jehovah Witnesses but it is bad for a first meeting. The only pleasure you will have is the probability of watching the escort walk away; especially if this is your first time.
Don't be under the influence of drugs or if you do partake in that sort of thing, do not bring it with you or have it in the room. Showing up drunk is also a bad idea. Companions of a certain caliber will walk away immediately if you fall into either two of these categories.
There they are, standing in the doorway.
Offer your hand, invite them in, and offer a seat. If you are really savvy, a fresh vase of their favorite flowers is a great touch and invite them to take them when they leave.
Expect to sit and chat for a little bit to break the ice. Have a glass of juice, soda, or wine out to offer. Keep in mind that some providers may refuse alcoholic beverages. Don't be put off by it and don't push the issue. Smile, respect it, and have something else just in case.
You may be asked to show identification. Be thoughtful and have it out along with the fee (in a discrete unmarked white envelope) in clear view on the nearest surface.
Some escorts will count the fee in front of you while others will excuse themselves and go to the bathroom to check all is in order. There are also cases where the companion will not even touch it until the end of the meeting.
Whatever you do, don't ask "So, what am I getting for this?". That's what your research was for and any smart escort will turn around and walk.
After the small chit chat, the companion may or may not excuse her self to the bathroom while telling you to "get comfortable". This is your sign to "get undressed".
Remember her boundaries and that "No means NO!". If you're still nervous, most escorts will sense this and lead through the meeting. Remember, attitude is key. If you are polite, act like a gentleman, and treat them with respect and dignity, you are pretty much going to have a good time.
Expect condoms to be used. DON'T EVEN ASK NOT TO!
If you happen to encounter a provider that does offer BBBJ, only you can decide if you can accept the risk. If you can't accept the risk, ask her to use a condom. After all, a cold sore may not be just a cold sore. Discretion is the better part of valor and besides, do you really want to have to explain to your significant other why they are now on a lifetime of medication?
Some escorts will kiss, some won't. Some offer Greek, others do not. All of these things should be no surprise to you if you have done your homework.
Expect some more small talk at the end of your appointment. Some providers will ask you to write a review. If you're not comfortable writing one, just let them know. Don't promise one and fail to follow up.
Professional companions do not require tipping however, it is ALWAYS a good idea, especially if they have gone extra mile. Let's be honest, he who tips best, will get the best service in the long run. The escorts always appreciate them.
FOLLOW UP:
Follow up does NOT mean a call or email everyday.
The polite thing to do is send a short email within a couple of days thanking the companion for the time spent. When dealing with an agency, call and let them know you were pleased. Everyone appreciates constructive feedback. Both these actions keep the door open for future positive meetings.
CONCLUSION:
The bottom line is to treat providers like professionals / people. Treat them the way you expect to be treated, use your manners, and act with kindness, and the respect will usually be returned by the companion.
Hope this clear's up any confusion and happy dreaming!
After all, without you guy's. I wouldn't get to have nearly as much fun!
XOXO H. H.
[QUOTE=NC Wanderer;1413276]Do you even know how to use the search function? It is very useful.[/QUOTE]One thing I didn't realize at first was that it defaults to returning whole threads, which isn't very helpful. Make sure to change it to return individual posts, which is much more useful.
Sir Walter
I had a dream about Kelly last week. Nice time, sweet girl, services as advertised, good price. [url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/BodyRubs/very-sexy-spanish-mix-white-girl-24/7087522[/url]
I've been trying to connect with Kiko, too. Hope she's ok. Wouldn't shock me if she had to have treatment for her weight issues. She was very sweet.
[QUOTE=BoatFool;1407297]Also thanks to this list, I became a regular with GFE Kiko / Meko starting last fall and so enjoyed her company. She stopped advertising at the end of January and since has never responded to texts and phone messages. Does any one have any intel on KiKo / Meko and her well being? If she has retired I wish her the best.[/QUOTE]
Sorry,"Honey." This is total garbage. Yeah, I know, I won't ever be seeing you (oh well) , but there's no way I'm jumping through these hoops or providing personal and confidential information like what you describe. Never have and never will.
[QUOTE=HoneyHoliday; 1413292]So you fellow's have been discussing screening / the appropriate way of setting appointments. I recently found this on another site.
Thinking it may help some of you be more successful and have better over all luck finding the right type of girl for you.
The following is a simple guide on how to get the most out of your escort experience.
RESEARCH:
Always do your homework. 30 minutes of online research can not only "save you hundreds on your car insurance" but, it also minimizes the chances of a bad experience, humiliation, and 'taking one for the team' (TOFTT). If you choose NOT to do your homework, you will have no one to blame but yourself for your poor experience.
Review sites are a good place to start your research. Many providers advertise on discussion boards so you should get started by clicking on their ads and looking at their websites. These sites contain lots of information so, take the time to read everything and don't just stick to staring at photos and rates.
Once you have a provider's name, head back to the message boards and check out their posts and reviews for the past 6 months. This will help give you a better idea on their personality.
INITIAL CONTACT:
This is the first hurdle to clear without falling flat on your face.
If the site has an appointment request form, fill it out and provide ALL the requested information. This is where many make their first mistake; they don't follow instructions. If you don't like a providers contact terms, move on and find someone else. Don't waste their or your time.
If there's a comment section, do NOT make any rude or sexually suggestive comments. If the provider is truly a professional, doing so will ensure you never hear from them again.
What happens if there isn't a request form? Send an email or call provided number (more on phone call etiquette below).
Keep it simple. Subject likes like,"Hi from John" or 'Appointment request from Dayton' will get your email read. Do NOT use subjects like,"I need it bad" or "Do me!". Messages like those are an automatic delete.
Here's an example of how your email should sound:
Hello,
I'm John from Monkey's Elbow, Kentucky. I visited your site and I'd like to make an appointment to see you. I will be in your town from XX date to XX date.
I was wondering if you might have time available during my visit.
(Leave your contact information and when is the best time to reach you)
A word of advice: Spelling and punctuation count. Take the time to proof your email before you send it.
Most providers are very good about returning respectable emails. Expect a response within 48 hours or less. However, you should understand that they may be very busy. Some providers have auto-response system set up and that may be the first email that you get back. Another delay in a reply may be because they are traveling, on vacation, or on an extended appointment. Just because a provider doesn't reply right away, it doesn't mean bad news. If you haven't gotten a response after 3 days, send a second email. Sometimes, messages get deleted by mistake or eaten by Internet gremlins.
SCREENING / VERIFICATION:
Once the provider has responded to your initial request (via email, phone call, etc.) , the next step is verification. If you've never seen an escort before and have no provider references (or even if you do) they are going ask for information that will prove you are not a rogue government agency trying to entrap them or a psycho trying to cause them bodily harm.
The provider will likely ask for what seems like personal information. Work phone, age, general description, company name, occupation who have you seen, who you know, etc.
DON'T FIGHT THIS.
They are merely trying to protect themselves and their clients from potential problems. Keep in mind, providers want to make the appointment too but, they also have a vested interest in safety and discretion.
Some providers ask for little information, some ask for more.
Regardless of how much information they ask for, if you refuse to provide them with the information, you can forget about an appointment.
Remember you only have one chance at a good first impression and because of the very real risks provider's face you may only get one shot before you are put on a do not answer / do not see list that may be shared publicly / privately with other independent provider's and even agency's.
Verification is a safety process that you CANNOT negotiate away. Once again if a provider asks for more info than you fell secure disclosing find a different provider.
SETTING THE APPOINTMENT:
At this point, you may have received a contact number for the escort companion and instructions on how to make your appointment.
Be sure to follow all instructions. Call from an unblocked number and conduct yourself like you would in any other professional situation. They have a service you want and you are calling to contract those services. Remember, the rules of what you can and cannot say STILL apply.
But what if a man / another woman answers?
Don't panic!
Calmly and politely say a greeting ("hello","good afternoon", etc.) followed by,"Did I dial 555-1212?". Often, you HAVE dialed the right number and the bookings happen to be done by a man / other provider / answering service etc. No problem!
Asking,"So buddy, how much for a BJ?" or "Have you dated her yourself?" is a guaranteed hang up. It screams "Hi! I'm a dumb ass with no class."
Now that you've gone through all that, now is the time to find out more information about the companion.
Do they have a favorite meal, flower, or wine? What kind of music do they like? What is their favorite thing to do? What do they dislike?
Now this is assuming, this information is NOT on their website. If it is, there is no greater way to look like a fool by asking questions that have already been painstakingly answered previously on their site.
This is also a good time to let them know about you. Talk about your likes, dislikes, etc. But PLEASE DON'T give them your life story or be explicit or vulgar. If this is your first time, tell them! If you're nervous, be a MAN and say so. Most escorts are fantastic at putting you at ease as long as you're honest. This is not the time to be shy or tough it out!
BEFORE THE BIG DAY:
Some providers will only meet you in a public place the first time while others will come right to your room / You to theirs. Even still, there are a few who prefer a quick 15 or 20 minutes for a get-to-know-you drink the day before.
If the website doesn't cover it, politely ask "What are your first meeting policies?".
Some escorts are very talkative and will call you more than a few times prior to the appointment. Others may only call once or twice. Follow their lead and respect their wishes. Now is NOT the time to be a needy phone stalker.
If you must cancel your appointment do so as soon as you know you will not be able to keep your appointment. Some provider's have a cancellation fee / process. Make sure you know this info before you schedule your chosen companion's time.
THE BIG DAY (FINALLY) :
Nothing can be stressed more than being clean!
Wait. One more time: Nothing can be stressed more here than BEING CLEAN!
Be freshly showered, brush your teeth, comb your hair, and be dressed!
Answering the door in your purple silk boxers may work fine for scaring away Jehovah Witnesses but it is bad for a first meeting. The only pleasure you will have is the probability of watching the escort walk away; especially if this is your first time.
Don't be under the influence of drugs or if you do partake in that sort of thing, do not bring it with you or have it in the room. Showing up drunk is also a bad idea. Companions of a certain caliber will walk away immediately if you fall into either two of these categories.
There they are, standing in the doorway.
Offer your hand, invite them in, and offer a seat. If you are really savvy, a fresh vase of their favorite flowers is a great touch and invite them to take them when they leave.
Expect to sit and chat for a little bit to break the ice. Have a glass of juice, soda, or wine out to offer. Keep in mind that some providers may refuse alcoholic beverages. Don't be put off by it and don't push the issue. Smile, respect it, and have something else just in case.
You may be asked to show identification. Be thoughtful and have it out along with the fee (in a discrete unmarked white envelope) in clear view on the nearest surface.
Some escorts will count the fee in front of you while others will excuse themselves and go to the bathroom to check all is in order. There are also cases where the companion will not even touch it until the end of the meeting.
Whatever you do, don't ask "So, what am I getting for this?". That's what your research was for and any smart escort will turn around and walk.
After the small chit chat, the companion may or may not excuse her self to the bathroom while telling you to "get comfortable". This is your sign to "get undressed".
Remember her boundaries and that "No means NO!". If you're still nervous, most escorts will sense this and lead through the meeting. Remember, attitude is key. If you are polite, act like a gentleman, and treat them with respect and dignity, you are pretty much going to have a good time.
Expect condoms to be used. DON'T EVEN ASK NOT TO!
If you happen to encounter a provider that does offer BBBJ, only you can decide if you can accept the risk. If you can't accept the risk, ask her to use a condom. After all, a cold sore may not be just a cold sore. Discretion is the better part of valor and besides, do you really want to have to explain to your significant other why they are now on a lifetime of medication?
Some escorts will kiss, some won't. Some offer Greek, others do not. All of these things should be no surprise to you if you have done your homework.
Expect some more small talk at the end of your appointment. Some providers will ask you to write a review. If you're not comfortable writing one, just let them know. Don't promise one and fail to follow up.
Professional companions do not require tipping however, it is ALWAYS a good idea, especially if they have gone extra mile. Let's be honest, he who tips best, will get the best service in the long run. The escorts always appreciate them.
FOLLOW UP:
Follow up does NOT mean a call or email everyday.
The polite thing to do is send a short email within a couple of days thanking the companion for the time spent. When dealing with an agency, call and let them know you were pleased. Everyone appreciates constructive feedback. Both these actions keep the door open for future positive meetings.
CONCLUSION:
The bottom line is to treat providers like professionals / people. Treat them the way you expect to be treated, use your manners, and act with kindness, and the respect will usually be returned by the companion.
Hope this clear's up any confusion and happy dreaming!
After all, without you guy's. I wouldn't get to have nearly as much fun!
XOXO H. H.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HoneyHoliday; 1413292]Thinking it may help some of you be more successful and have better over all luck finding the right type of girl for you.
The following is a simple guide on how to get the most out of your escort experience.
RESEARCH:[/QUOTE]One more tip just call Ms Holiday she's one of the best and most notorious LOL
[QUOTE=Some Fool;1413816]Sorry,"Honey." This is total garbage. Yeah, I know, I won't ever be seeing you (oh well) , but there's no way I'm jumping through these hoops or providing personal and confidential information like what you describe. Never have and never will.[/QUOTE]Which is of course your choice. As such, you can expect some dreams will never come true.
Or you could just do your research on here and listen to a recommendation from a veteran and go from there. Most backpage providers do not make you jump through all of those hoops. The high class professionals due as they have lists of people waiting to throw money at them so they can be picky. The Police tend to want a bunch of information from you ahead of time as well. I for one am not listing out any of my personal information on an Escorts webpage!
[QUOTE=Some Fool;1413816]Sorry,"Honey." This is total garbage. Yeah, I know, I won't ever be seeing you (oh well) , but there's no way I'm jumping through these hoops or providing personal and confidential information like what you describe. Never have and never will.[/QUOTE]SF,
The guide posted was from a 3rd party site, written by a dreamer and I believed it covered a multitude of scenarios that different provider's use to screen potential friends.
Me personally, because of the nature of dreaming only ask enough questions to verify I feel safe meeting. Not anything invasive, or anything that would violate your real life privacy.
Listed in that guide was this very important point:
[i][b]Verification is a safety process that you CANNOT negotiate away. Once again if a provider asks for more info than you fell secure disclosing choose a different provider. [/b][/i]
I have been on boards throughout this country and screening is as varied as the provider's themselves.
I have seen as extreme as a full website form, screening / review I'd, references, etc while others require only an agreed upon time and place.
It varies from place to place and forum to forum.
It was meant as a tool not a personal attack. No one should ever provide more info than they want to.
Have a blessed day.
No reviews that I could find searched number and name (I know they change). But to no avail.
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/o_n-_e-_-i_n-_-a_-m_i_l_-l_i_o_n-60-special-24/8165969[/url]
Hopefully around when I'm by next Saturday.