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[QUOTE=Admin2;7694444][BLUE]What is the consensus on the new advertiser threads?
Don't just say they suck, say why they suck, I wouldn't be asking if I didn't want to know.
Do you think they are successful in their primary purpose are there less shill reports on the regular review threads?
If you have questions, I'll check back or use the contact us link at the bottom.
A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]It's like a better HX ad section because you can see who is working and there is good communication. People don't bother to shill on HX because ads work.Fake ads on HX are pretty rare compared to sites where it's free. And HX gives real-time updates as its other strong point. I know when girls stop working without asking the booker.
The threads are separated out and people can go where they like. With the sugaring ads before, there were definitely way less shills including in random threads that weren't even about sugaring.
The thread rules make sense. At COI strip clubs, they proudly advertise dances and VIP services. It's all legal and I can even recommend the basic service to try out women of all races. At Japan's DH services, they proudly advertise girls going to your room for massage and bj. It's all legal and people get the basic service all the time.
An ad format does give each shop a chance and incentive to compete on transparency. People know what to expect with HX ads. If someone wants, they're of course free to post in the general MP thread.
Probably saves everyone a lot of time too.
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[QUOTE=DownloadX;7694600]It's like a better HX ad section because you can see who is working and there is good communication. People don't bother to shill on HX because ads work.Fake ads on HX are pretty rare compared to sites where it's free. And HX gives real-time updates as its other strong point. I know when girls stop working without asking the booker.
The threads are separated out and people can go where they like. With the sugaring ads before, there were definitely way less shills including in random threads that weren't even about sugaring.
The thread rules make sense. At COI strip clubs, they proudly advertise dances and VIP services. At Japan's DH services, they proudly advertise girls going to your room for massage and bj which are legal there. So some people do get just the basic services because they're cheap, all the time.
An ad format does give each shop a chance and incentive to compete on transparency. People know what to expect with HX ads. If someone wants, they're of course free to post in the general MP thread.
Probably saves everyone a lot of time too.[/QUOTE]Do you think this is something that could work for the agencies as well? Those bookers may just not be interested in it and it may not even be worthwhile for them. Whereas these spas, I think, definitely have a lot to gain from them.
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The K Agencies
[QUOTE=Opi7001;7694613]Do you think this is something that could work for the agencies as well? Those bookers may just not be interested in it and it may not even be worthwhile for them. Whereas these spas, I think, definitely have a lot to gain from them.[/QUOTE]The K Agencies already have their websites, some are better than others with who's available each day, but they all have the pictures the girls provide.
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[QUOTE=BlakCasper;7694622]The K Agencies already have their websites, some are better than others with who's available each day, but they all have the pictures the girls provide.[/QUOTE]Yeah I thought about that. It is redundant in that sense. It would open up more communication but they may prefer 1 to 1 private interactions anyhow.
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[QUOTE=Admin2;7694444][BLUE]What is the consensus on the new advertiser threads?
Don't just say they suck, say why they suck, I wouldn't be asking if I didn't want to know.
Do you think they are successful in their primary purpose are there less shill reports on the regular review threads?
If you have questions, I'll check back or use the contact us link at the bottom.
A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]I was uncomfortable with it at first, but the more I read the better I like it. So far so good, I think you're on to something here, admin.
We all appreciate a reliable source that can at least provide the basic information accurately; house fee, line up. I would love to see recent photos of the providers as well. Not nude and not overly photoshopped, just basic recent photos of the girls face and body (not nude) so we have an idea of who we're seeing. I know that a tough task to ask.
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[QUOTE=Kevin80;7694673]I was uncomfortable with it at first, but the more I read the better I like it. So far so good, I think you're on to something here, admin.
We all appreciate a reliable source that can at least provide the basic information accurately; house fee, line up. I would love to see recent photos of the providers as well. Not nude and not overly photoshopped, just basic recent photos of the girls face and body (not nude) so we have an idea of who we're seeing. I know that a tough task to ask.[/QUOTE]I doubt they will ever do real face. I think that is too much to ask.
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8 photos
[QUOTE=Opi7001;7694694]I doubt they will ever do real face. I think that is too much to ask.[/QUOTE]This is important for safety reasons.
When it comes to face, other cities had problems with safety, stalking, or harassment. Even though it doesn't always happen, just the possibility or remembering some incident months or years ago is why. Though I will say it's more important for the younger girls. Some older girls are veterans who know how to handle things and are more comfortable with it.
Body photos without tattoos work well, and it's what a lot of guys care about anyways. These days you can remove tattoos with AI editing easily in seconds, leaving the body accurate other than the tattoo removal.
I'll demo AI editing. Attached is a demo of tattoo removal using model Go Mal Sook. While we're at it, we added MMs. The beauty of editing rather than creating from scratch is 80% of the girl is exactly her. Just the bikini parts and tattoos are changed. Another is minjji8, a body model for Monet. Next are Gsu, Seb, DGR, and more. Tattoo removal and lookalikes are just two tools when you can't get accurate ads. You could say it is our way of passively saying when an ad isn't close enough. Of course, an accurate original ad is better.
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[QUOTE=Admin2;7694444][BLUE]What is the consensus on the new advertiser threads?
Don't just say they suck, say why they suck, I wouldn't be asking if I didn't want to know.
Do you think they are successful in their primary purpose are there less shill reports on the regular review threads?
If you have questions, I'll check back or use the contact us link at the bottom.
A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]I think it does more good for the site for at least give both the advertisers and the mongers to do some free writing. It certainly made sure the main site to have less populated with reports.
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Advertiser Threads
[QUOTE=Admin2;7694444][BLUE]What is the consensus on the new advertiser threads?
Don't just say they suck, say why they suck, I wouldn't be asking if I didn't want to know.
Do you think they are successful in their primary purpose are there less shill reports on the regular review threads?
If you have questions, I'll check back or use the contact us link at the bottom.
A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]So far I think it adds value on who is available and a brief description of the provider. Simple pictures (face and body) would be a nice addition. Leave it to the mongers to add services.
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[QUOTE=Opi7001;7694694]I doubt they will ever do real face. I think that is too much to ask.[/QUOTE]I hear ya, totally understandable but I was hoping just to get better information. Again, not nude or even suggestive, just a simple realistic photo. We've seen some mp do this this on Yelp. I know, this is not Yelp, but similar to Yelp in a sense that owners are advertising massage services and we will be respectful to the ladies and not mention tips.
Not perfect, we're not there yet but really, I think admin is on to something unique here. I'm sure it will get better as we go.
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[QUOTE=Admin2;7694444][BLUE]What is the consensus on the new advertiser threads?
Don't just say they suck, say why they suck, I wouldn't be asking if I didn't want to know.
Do you think they are successful in their primary purpose are there less shill reports on the regular review threads?
If you have questions, I'll check back or use the contact us link at the bottom.
A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]I preferred one thread where I could read about all of the venues, rather than having to sort through each venue separately.
The new threads and their impact on the originals makes the site less helpful, for me.
Fwiw. Thanks for what you do.
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[QUOTE=Jhadiib;7694855]I preferred one thread where I could read about all of the venues, rather than having to sort through each venue separately.
The new threads and their impact on the originals makes the site less helpful, for me.
Fwiw. Thanks for what you do.[/QUOTE]You would have to sort through pages of that one thread though. And that one thread didn't come anywhere close to listing all the girls that were available. It would only be some girls that were recently seen. A lot of the posts wouldn't even give a store name or were shills anyway.
It's hard for me to imagine thinking this system is less efficient.
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[QUOTE=Opi7001;7694857]You would have to sort through pages of that one thread though. And that one thread didn't come anywhere close to listing all the girls that were available. It would only be some girls that were recently seen. A lot of the posts wouldn't even give a store name or were shills anyway.
It's hard for me to imagine thinking this system is less efficient.[/QUOTE]I agree, this system is a lot better. I'm not super into these FS shops, but after seeing some of the photos, descriptions of the women from the actual source instead of reviews that are embellished, I am definitely a little more interested. I think the threads are doing their job quite well, which is advertising what they have, and hopefully catching the eyes of us mongers.
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[QUOTE=Admin2;7694444][BLUE]What is the consensus on the new advertiser threads?
Don't just say they suck, say why they suck, I wouldn't be asking if I didn't want to know.
Do you think they are successful in their primary purpose are there less shill reports on the regular review threads?
If you have questions, I'll check back or use the contact us link at the bottom.
A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]I'm not going to say they suck, they don't! I'm also not going to say they are the next best thing to sliced bread, because they aren't.
The pluses, they definitely breath new rev into the forum. I have not a clue what kind of rev the forum brings in, my suspicion is, not a huge amount. Maybe enough to survive, but not enough to live or live large.
Metro, well that could allow the forum to live very well! I suspect!
The negative, and I'm not seeing a great way around it, is that now, I have numerous threads I need to follow to keep up to date, Making a bit more effort on my side. Not huge, if say Admin caps Metro ads to a certain number, say 5?
Definitely not 20, definitely not 2. 20 would make reviewing the forums unwieldly. A cap of 2, well that would defeat the purpose and maybe admin's ex wife continues to survive on Beans and Weenies.
This is only my opinion, the Metro Ads, might go a ways into making the site more viable and be able to afford to defend itself against overcapacity / DOS attacks.
I seem to see far too many times, where the forum is not available for what ever reason.
I think, I offered a balanced opinion, surely tried to make it balanced. Hope, Admin2 takes it as the criticism that he / she was seeking.
LOL, while we all assume, Admin2 is a man very well could be a lady that is smart enough to capitalize on our stupidity, LOL.
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Pros and cons
[QUOTE=Admin2;7694444][BLUE]What is the consensus on the new advertiser threads?
Don't just say they suck, say why they suck, I wouldn't be asking if I didn't want to know.
Do you think they are successful in their primary purpose are there less shill reports on the regular review threads?
If you have questions, I'll check back or use the contact us link at the bottom.
A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Good things are, makes review on each place much easier to see and who to see with all the advertising and the shop responds. Like the new picture system on advertisement depend on the establishment.
Bad, constant scrolling on each side but there is only like 6 of them so it is fine, still a hassle for me as a lazy monger.
Overall. Changes can be tough to get used to at first, but after a week of so, I got used to it. Not my forum so I don't pretend to know what and how to run it, but am greatful for a place to see some reviews and what each store has to offer without going to the store is always nice.